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<jack_ma_blabla:matrix.org> devs cant change fees later
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pedrowiski
do you guys think there will be a run to monero when btc halves again and mining stop being profitable
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<jack_ma_blabla:matrix.org> do it now, make it cheeapeer
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snex
if xmr goes to $1m fees will automatically come down pipe down now
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snex
pedrowiski: history shows that btc loves halvenings, because reasons
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<jack_ma_blabla:matrix.org> monero has no run, no exchanges, its dead; only artic thinks we go to 100 thousand dollars and we need pico xmr tx fees
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snex
oh ok if its dead then code your gambling site in dogecoin
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snex
the wallet logic is easier anyway
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m-relay
<jack_ma_blabla:matrix.org> how does it go down ? tx volume went up, price didnt ? how cna you tell if price goes up tx volume will also go up ?
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<jack_ma_blabla:matrix.org> tv volume and price are not coorelated
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<jack_ma_blabla:matrix.org> tx volume and price are not coorelated
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snex
people can set their desired fee when they do a tx. if monero = $1m they will set tiny fees and miners will accept it
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m-relay
<jack_ma_blabla:matrix.org> explain that to artic and deevs and fix the fees right away to stop this fucking spam
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<jack_ma_blabla:matrix.org> make it fucking expensive to even transact
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snex
dum
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m-relay
<jack_ma_blabla:matrix.org> ok snakes
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m-relay
<jack_ma_blabla:matrix.org> 🐍
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pedrowiski
When you as an individual have been reduced to a position where you must outbid a 'bank' for space in the blockchain then you have effectively lost access to the blockchain
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snex
big players will always have an advantage. this isnt new nor is it changeable
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snex
small players adapt faster. again. not new or changeable
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snex
this is how markets work. deal with it or move to north korea
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<jack_ma_blabla:matrix.org> monero is north korea of crypto
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<helasse:linarphy.net> Bruh
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<helasse:linarphy.net> I regrest asking for microtransactions
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<helasse:linarphy.net> I'll just use deposit accounts
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<elaryan:hackliberty.org> NO
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<elaryan:hackliberty.org> North Korea is the Monero of countries.
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<ambitiouslemming:matrix.org> I am having trouble getting my full balance to show after restoring a wallet on Cakewallet and synchronizing. It is only showing the most recent transaction. I have set the restore height quite early and it still doesn't show. Any suggestions?
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<jack_ma_blabla:matrix.org> you might have used a incorrect restore height
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snex
ive never had any luck with setting restore heights
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<jack_ma_blabla:matrix.org> snakes have bad memory
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erm
Lul hisss
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erm
It's just a single command in the setup process no?
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selsta
ambitiouslemming: what restore height did you set?
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pedrowiski
7410*/8520
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<ambitiouslemming:matrix.org> On the current go round, I went with a block height of 1. Previously I had set it around by date around 2014 and 2020. I didn't see an option to resync from the beginning, just block height or date.
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selsta
so you set it to 1 and have let it sync for an hour or so?
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selsta
or did you just set it to 1 and the wallet didn't start a re-scan process?
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<ambitiouslemming:matrix.org> The wallet is currently rescanning from 1. I wouldn't expect to see transactions on it yet.
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<aquarist684:pleco.space> Hello, I am unsure if this is the right place to ask questions about the Monero currency but I am just kind of getting started on crypto and based on my research this is the most private and anonymous manner for exchanging "work" .. I wish to ask:
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<aquarist684:pleco.space> If I use a Bitcoin ATM that requires a phone number to move fiat cash to Bitcoin, and then I use an exchange to move that Bitcoin to Monero, is that Monero somehow relatable back to the phone number ? Or even that Bitcoin wallet through the exchange ? What steps might you recommend as a Monero user to move fiat cash to Monero properly or efficiently ?
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<aquarist684:pleco.space> sorry for the long post right from the start lol, and thanks extra for anyone patient enough to put up with me questions XD
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<aquarist684:pleco.space> Hello, I am unsure if this is the right place to ask questions about the Monero currency but I am just kind of getting started on crypto and based on my research this is the most private and anonymous manner for exchanging "work" .. I wish to ask:
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m-relay
<aquarist684:pleco.space> If I use a Bitcoin ATM that requires a phone number to move fiat cash to Bitcoin, and then I use an exchange to move that Bitcoin to Monero, is that Monero, when spent on things, somehow relatable back to the phone number ? Or even that Bitcoin wallet through the exchange ? What steps might you recommend as a Monero user to move fiat cash to Monero properly or efficiently ?
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<aquarist684:pleco.space> sorry for the long post right from the start lol, and thanks extra for anyone patient enough to put up with me questions XD
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<aquarist684:pleco.space> Hello, I am unsure if this is the right place to ask questions about the Monero currency but I am just kind of getting started on crypto and based on my research this is the most private and anonymous manner for exchanging "work" .. I wish to ask:
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m-relay
<aquarist684:pleco.space> If I use a Bitcoin ATM that requires a phone number to move fiat cash to Bitcoin, and then I use an exchange to move that Bitcoin to Monero, is that Monero somehow relatable back to the phone number ? Or even that Bitcoin wallet through the exchange ? What steps might you recommend as a Monero user to move fiat cash to Monero properly or efficiently ?
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<aquarist684:pleco.space> sorry for the long post right from the start lol, and thanks extra for anyone patient enough to put up with me questions XD
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<ambitiouslemming:matrix.org> You may want to look into LocalMonero.co
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<aquarist684:pleco.space> woah lol, physically meeting people for Monero exchanges for cash ..?
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<ambitiouslemming:matrix.org> Cash by mail is also an option on there.
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<aquarist684:pleco.space> ah okay thanks :) that gives me alternatives, but what about the method I proposed ..? are there flaws in the anonymity ?
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> The way they would know it's your monero, would be if you send back the monero to another exchage later and that the exchanges are talking to each other
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> If Exchange A talk to Exchange B
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> And that you return the monero to exchange B in a later date or are sending it to exchange C and that exchange B talk to exchange C, They might know
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m-relay
<gfdshygti53:monero.social> Because Exchange B know the real spend. If you do the operation many time, the same way, Exchange C will be able to figure it out with the help of exchange B
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> That's Eve-Alive-Eve kind of attack.
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> On the other hand, if you use monero as it was intented and you keep it in your wallet and just spend it there and there, that risk go away (assuming you don't always spend it at the same place and that place always send it to Exchange B or C (Eve-Alice-Bob-Eve attack)
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> Always consider CEX as Eve, all of them
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> You want to keep some other name between the two Eve.
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> You can also churn (many way to do it, no conclusive research of how to do it the best)
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<aquarist684:pleco.space> I see, so two Monero wallets would assist me here then ..? one for money coming in from BTC and spending in Monero ( which is my main goal ) .. and another Monero wallet for transfers going out to CEXs ? sorry I might be way off here lol
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m-relay
<gfdshygti53:monero.social> you don't need two wallet, you can send the output to yourself (the same wallet)
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> If you want to use the churn route, I really recommend a wallet that have proper "coin control" like Feather wallet. That one keep a list of the output you receive, if you always get your monero on a fresh sub address (Feather default too), then you will see what output are not churned (because it won't say "change")
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<aquarist684:pleco.space> hmm okay, so I want a wallet with a default mixing then .. I currently use Cake Wallet, is that any good for anonymity with Monero ?
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<aquarist684:pleco.space> so from what I am trying to understand is this perhaps; what happens in Monero stays in Monero ..? Lol .. however moving money in and out of a Monero wallet to CEXs to either fiat or crypto is certainly visible ..? however these CEXs and other corps will not know what's being purchased within that Monero Wallet since that's Monero's nature/protocol ? - this is the part I find most<clipped message>
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<aquarist684:pleco.space> confusing, where KYC ends and Anonymity starts with Monero CEXs
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> Well, Cake is good, but it does not have coin control afaik.
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> So you can't churn individual output and have to churn the whole balance (Personally I do prefer churning individual output (especially since the march 6....)
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> I would not do "whole wallet churn", especially right now, personally.
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> You don't need to churn if you use monero as it was intended (don't just send it back to exchange without even spending any) except if you have a really high treat model.
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> wait...
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social>
youtu.be/watch?v=iABIcsDJKyM
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> That episode of breaking monero explain it
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> As long as you use monero as it was intended you will be fine.
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<aquarist684:pleco.space> "as it was intended" as in not just money laundering a shit ton of BTC through it, but actually directly spending Monero like a normal currency ..?
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> Yeah, spending monero like it as a money...
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> If you just CEX -> XMR -> Another CEX, just to launder and these two CEX talk to each other, they will be able to eventually make it out (the more often you do it the more certainty they get)
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<aquarist684:pleco.space> ahh okay cool so I am somewhat following lol, yea my intention is to genuinely enjoy and use this awesome crypto, not fill the blockchain with a crap ton of useless CEXs lol .. so it almost doesn't matter if the Monero came straight from something as KYC as a eTransfer ? once in Monero; the spending is anonymous yea ? ( for all those listening I am noob lol, this are questions not answers XD )
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> Yes
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> ButI would still prefer cash by mail or bank deposit with real people than CEX!
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<aquarist684:pleco.space> okay awesome ! I really appreciate the clarity so thank you RavFX
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> Localmonero... and soon™️ Haveno
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> Can also use Bisq, then once you got the BTC, you swap it for XMT in the same platform
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> Can also use Bisq, then once you got the BTC, you swap it for XMR in the same platform
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<aquarist684:pleco.space> bookmarked lol .. I will likely aim for Bitcoin ATM to BTC then CEX to Monero for my own threat model .. however I can't see any real reason not to use that with a higher threat model 🤷 I am likely missing something lol
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> If you go to a CEX, use one that does not require KYC
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<aquarist684:pleco.space> I am bookmarking all of these lol, thanks
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> Like Tradeogre or MEXC
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<aquarist684:pleco.space> the bitcoin atms require a phone number for authentication .. that is kinda KYC but indirect, I figured that should be "ok" for my threat model .. but could be traced back to my BTC wallet ( however not the Monero purchases, which is the part I was aiming for )
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> Yeah, should be fine
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<aquarist684:pleco.space> much appreciated btw :)
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<joiboi.crypto:matrix.org> #FreeOfrnxmr
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rbrunner
Happy Birthday Mordinals! Almost exactly one year ago we received the news that the first "mordinals", basically NFTs, were minted on the Monero blockchain:
twitter.com/m0rdinals/status/1634681214798815235
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snex
what exactly makes it a mordinal?
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rbrunner
Well, Bitcoin had / has "ordinals", and with the "m" from "Monero" you get "mordinals"
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snex
but what makes it one? what prevents future TX from reusing the same data?
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rbrunner
Nothing of course, it's mostly smoke and mirrors
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rbrunner
Well, it was. Because they are basically dead now.
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selsta
what kind of txpool size did we have with mordinals? i don't remember if it also caused full blocks
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snex
maybe im wrong about bitcoin ordinals working this way, but im pretty sure to count as an NFT it needs to be unique and tradeable
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rbrunner
Yeah, I think so. Still modest number of transactions overall, but most of them with tx_extra that were big
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rbrunner
There is a somewhat special transaction type implemented in the CLI wallet that comes with the Mordinals "fork", for transfer
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rbrunner
Never looked at the details however
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> I think I ditched my morbinal wallet.
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> Or well, I won't be able to sell my pretty unique collection 😂
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rbrunner
selsta: If you go to bitinfocharts and select "Average block size" down left, there is a peak 1 year ago:
bitinfocharts.com/comparison/size-xmr.html#3y
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<basses:matrix.org> You never thought about the risks of using bank deposit to someone else account?
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<basses:matrix.org> You never know what they do with the money
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> You mean, going to a random convenient store and giving the cash to the cashier and tell im where to deposit it?
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> I don't live in nato land, I can really deposit in most bank account from a random store, using cash. No id p0rn required
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snex
banks are not your friend in any country
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> I know snex, I don't even have a bank account
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> I just dump into other people accounts. Not my problem.
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<aquarist684:pleco.space> no bank account ..? :O So like, you must get paid in crypto or cash and then store it locally somewhere ? 🤔
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uncle_rae
work construction for cash?
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uncle_rae
or work in a kitchen or restaurant
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uncle_rae
a lot of people would prefer to pay cash if they can avoid taxes
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> Monero is my unit of account
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> So it's all in the Nero (and whatever else I long/short)
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<aquarist684:pleco.space> uncle_rae, that's possible for lower profile, and consequently lower income jobs, but for higher profile accounts I could see getting a large corp on board would be difficult
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uncle_rae
well, they pay in shares
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m-relay
<gfdshygti53:monero.social> And I do code for xmr.
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> No xmr? no code! Easy
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uncle_rae
that's their way of getting around that
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> Most local only use cash anyway.
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> Most place don't accept scams like credit cards
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<aquarist684:pleco.space> wow lol, that's sick .. however I would be interesting in someone attempting to purchase a home or new vehicle with crypto and no credit checks XD
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uncle_rae
there's always someone who will sell for cash
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uncle_rae
for a discount
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snex
ive seen vehicles for sale on moneromarket.io
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<monerobull:matrix.org> New vehicles are a scam
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> Just sell monero to some random in exchange for an ATM code
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> Go to random atm, choose "Withdraw without card" and type the code... Money flow
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> Then you buy the nice used car you wanted to buy
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uncle_rae
i always buy used
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m-relay
<gfdshygti53:monero.social> Same for me.
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> Especially cars, there nothing that deprecate more than that I think lol
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<aquarist684:pleco.space> what about houses ? properties ?
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uncle_rae
right
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uncle_rae
used too :)
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uncle_rae
i've never purchased a new build
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uncle_rae
what would be the point?
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uncle_rae
unless you're saying self build
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uncle_rae
or hire your own contractors
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<aquarist684:pleco.space> even registering a vehicle for the road requires some fees, no ?
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uncle_rae
that's different
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> Ask the local to build your house, give them cash, they love cash anyway
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> I don't live in the "first world"... It's not like it's more than 20K to build a new house
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uncle_rae
register to a business
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> Can probably get away with 10K
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uncle_rae
your vehicle
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> You pay for all that shit with cash at a random convenient store
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> You even pay your taxes that way
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uncle_rae
what size house would that be?
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> a 2 or 3 floors thing, made mostly out of concrete and metal
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uncle_rae
and what kind of materials are we talking about?
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uncle_rae
really? o_0
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uncle_rae
which country is this and how much is a bag of cement there?
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<aquarist684:pleco.space> Lol I am 1st world .. perhaps that is where the misunderstanding is
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uncle_rae
i have lived in both
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uncle_rae
currently in the third world
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uncle_rae
you can't build anything you'd want to live in for 10k
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uncle_rae
not here
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m-relay
<gfdshygti53:monero.social> If your lucky you can rent Taj mahal sized house for like 150$ a month
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uncle_rae
bruh
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uncle_rae
that's cap
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<aquarist684:pleco.space> you can barely buy a decent shed where I leave for 10k USD here
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<aquarist684:pleco.space> you can barely buy a decent shed where I live for 10k USD
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<monerobull:matrix.org> I've heard of 500$ villas with pools in Thailand but 150$ is like civil war shit hole lebel
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<monerobull:matrix.org> I've heard of 500$ villas with pools in Thailand but 150$ is like civil war shit hole level
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> Like one time I got like a 20 rooms+ way too big thing for that 150k but it was in city center and I decided I wanted to move out of big city lol
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> Like one time I got like a 20 rooms+ way too big thing for that 150 but it was in city center and I decided I wanted to move out of big city lol
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uncle_rae
500 usd a month is about standard for a decent place in most places outside of the 1st world
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uncle_rae
it won't get you a "villa" unless you decide to go out into the bush somewher
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uncle_rae
e
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> 500$ is the price you pay yeah, in tourist cities
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<aquarist684:pleco.space> two bedroom apartment where I live is like 1.6k USD
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> shit hole house is 75$ a month
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<aquarist684:pleco.space> two bedroom apartment where I live is like 1.6k USD / month
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> lol, imajin living in a flat when a house is less than 200$ a month
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<monerobull:matrix.org> Imagine paying 200$ a month when living with your parents is free /s
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> naa, just the price of food in there "first world" scam country there would make it way more expensive
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<ivanmarrs:matrix.org> ...or 1 bhat.
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<aquarist684:pleco.space> first world is a scam ..? 😕
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> And I would not be able to live mosty of the scam system
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> Try living without a bank accout for example, in Canada or USA or most EU country
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uncle_rae
1st world is definitely a scam
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> Or even without credit
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<mango21:matrix.org> can anyone here shed some light on whats going on with XMR transactions? i have two sent to me that has never arrived and 1 that I sent that was rejected.
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snex
you did something wrong
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m-relay
<monerobull:matrix.org> Send with "normal" fee, not automatic or slow
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<aquarist684:pleco.space> [ might be a can of worms but here goes ] What makes you guys think the 1st world is a scam, just out of curiosity .. they must be 1st for a reason, no ?
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<monerobull:matrix.org> Well
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<monerobull:matrix.org> For one: Germany has a Ponzi scheme for a retirement system
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uncle_rae
the entire financial system is a ponzi scheme
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> Yeah, they are #1 mostly by exploiting the majority world
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> And the state is there to scam you hard, same on a lot of country, you are forced to pay in that retirement plan and there account are already negative lol.
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> And everything is way more expensive
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<mango21:matrix.org> ok will try again ...thanks
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> Some wallets got updates too, might be a good idea to check if it's available for yours
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uncle_rae
there's just a level of dishonesty in the 1st world that i find terrifying - what makes it worse is that people are stupid enough to believe the lies
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uncle_rae
at least in the developing world there's a healthy skepticism
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<monerobull:matrix.org> In Germany you need to become 95 to even get back what you directly paid into the Ponzi, this doesn't account for the 35% of taxes that go into the Ponzi as well and will rise to 50% in the next few zears
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<monerobull:matrix.org> In Germany you need to become 95 to even get back what you directly paid into the Ponzi, this doesn't account for the 35% of taxes that go into the Ponzi as well and will rise to 50% in the next few years
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<aquarist684:pleco.space> what countries are we comparing really ..? Like I can't see any sense in living in China compared to say Sweden or Netherlands lol
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uncle_rae
well, yes, when they set up these social security/pension schemes they were designed so that the common laborer would not get that money
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uncle_rae
i do not like sweden one bit
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uncle_rae
and i have real problems with crappy weather
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> Yeah, it's why they are moving the retirement age back
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> People use to live less long...
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<aquarist684:pleco.space> Isn't Sweden the leading country for data privacy on the planet right now lol
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uncle_rae
they are?
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uncle_rae
who measured that
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m-relay
<gfdshygti53:monero.social> Id Say Latin America vs Canada / EU
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> Canada totally became shit since I left (I did anticipate that fortunately)
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uncle_rae
what was their criteria?
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> I just don't trust any of the metric about that lol
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uncle_rae
i like vancouver but couldn't live there
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uncle_rae
and it has definitely gotten worse over the past 15 years whilst somehow becoming more expensive
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uncle_rae
such paradox
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> They have really nice looking place but the price to pay is too high except if have money to waste or maybe if you are not a slave (if you don't have to work and give half to the ponzi)
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or if you are trying hide/launder money
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which is what much of these new construction projects come down to
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> I use to have a 3 room flat for 550$ a months
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> in 10 years it upgraded to 1500$ a month
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> That was on the east side of canada
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montreal?
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> Have fun guessing exact location :)
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Toronto then
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> just name them all :D
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<aquarist684:pleco.space> mullvad is based in Sweden 👍️
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<aquarist684:pleco.space> they have no logging requirements for VPNs in Sweden and the gov is legally not permitted to force VPNs to log users
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<basses:matrix.org> >gov is legally not permitted to force VPNs to log users
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<basses:matrix.org> Sure...
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> They all say that until they do
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> and when they do they don't say
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> and many of there vpn exit point (most) are not in sweden, what about theses
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right, the swedish authorities will touch their toes for uncle sam on request
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don't be so naive
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> There part of Nato now right, so for sure they do if asked because terrorist using it or something
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<123bob123:matrix.org> Dont let the beautiful ladies fool you
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<123bob123:matrix.org> Its a trap!
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this jungle is infested with leeches
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<aquarist684:pleco.space> Lol, you talking about this lady ?
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<aquarist684:pleco.space> idk, I think there are some strong indications ( like Mullvad's decision to base there ) that Sweden is at least up there for privacy considerations ..
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<123bob123:matrix.org> You should of said they do no log audits and security audits
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<123bob123:matrix.org> But a vpn is your moving your trust from provider to them
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is sweden a socialist shit hole that demands their citizens/residents to submit detailed reports of all their activities every year?
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<aquarist684:pleco.space> yes I agree, however who in their right mind would trust an ISP lol ..
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<aquarist684:pleco.space> unrelated;
odysee.com/@TomSparkReviews:d this Tom Sparks ?
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<aquarist684:pleco.space> yes I agree, however who in their right mind would trust an ISP lol ..
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<aquarist684:pleco.space> unrelated;
odysee.com/@TomSparkReviews:d this Tom Sparks ? I am familiar with Brax so
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<aquarist684:pleco.space> I have never heard this before so I cannot disprove it .. 🤷 but I would not suspect this myself
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<korgprivacy:matrix.org> Monero vs. the Surveillance State w/ Blake Lovewell (MT #302)
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<123bob123:matrix.org> Tldr?
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Propaganda
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<aquarist684:pleco.space>
youtube.com/watch?v=dkd-P2vaIc4 Lol, forgive me if you don't know the reference
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> hmm, deleted...
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> Rotating the head -45 degree in direction of the 486 irc computer...
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> nod deleted anymore!
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<aquarist684:pleco.space> lol fair point, I didn't wanna be too off topic aha ..
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<basses:matrix.org> Tom smart ass douche bag
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<basses:matrix.org> Braxman Robs me
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<aquarist684:pleco.space> as in you do not like either of these influencers ..? Lol
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<basses:matrix.org> never
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<aquarist684:pleco.space> so you've never not liked them, got it 👍️
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<aquarist684:pleco.space> so you've never not liked them, got it 👍️ /s
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<basses:matrix.org> actually hate them
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<aquarist684:pleco.space> lol how can you hate a guy like braxman, sure maybe not a huge fan that's understandable, but hate ..? do you know him personally lol
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<satoshi:matrix.harm0ny.is> influencers are for morons who can't do their own homework
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so most of humanity...
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<aquarist684:pleco.space> there is nothing wrong with an influencer with an educational background in the relative field, that's just a teacher using modern means of communication
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<aquarist684:pleco.space> but yes, teachers should always be stringed to some homework, that we can agree on
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<satoshi:matrix.harm0ny.is> 99% of it is regurgitated bullshit to shill nord and expressvpn
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<satoshi:matrix.harm0ny.is> How many more videos on VPNs do we need?
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<satoshi:matrix.harm0ny.is> The audience is the product and the audience receives a false sense of security and privacy in return.
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<aquarist684:pleco.space> I don't watch Braxman on YouTube; but I think the tactics he suggests are certainly not false privacy
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<aquarist684:pleco.space> yea the VPN stuff is overplayed lol, but that's like any teacher, overplaying the basics
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<basses:matrix.org> Dan 🤐 | alderman (Is not the man & Braxman Tomsparks Advocate ): you got the tommy redpill?
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<123bob123:matrix.org> Thats who start my name
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<123bob123:matrix.org> Started*
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<123bob123:matrix.org> When he was arguing on brax forum
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<preland:matrix.org> Out of curiosity, what are people’s thoughts on MentalOutlaw?
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seems like a good dude
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<orion_midast:matrix.org> Hey, I am working on a startup a "web3 bank" as I like to call it, its just a self custody service that allows users to interact with web2 banks, pay bills, send funds, receive payment etc...
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<orion_midast:matrix.org> I am making a point to integrate monero and seraidex in there. Am I allowed to share my twitter account as well as some sneak peeks in here? I dont want to self promote, it is however a product that will support monero so its not exactly off topic.
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<orion_midast:matrix.org> Hey, I am working on a startup a "web3 bank" as I like to call it, its just a self custody service that allows users to interact with web2 banks, pay bills, send funds, receive payment etc...
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<orion_midast:matrix.org> I am making a point to integrate monero and seraidex in there. Am I allowed to share my twitter account as well as some sneak peeks in here? I dont want to self promote, it is however a product that will support monero and cross-chain for monero so its not exactly off topic.
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<satoshi:matrix.harm0ny.is> He's an asshole, which is why I like him
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i do wonder why you never see him in any chatrooms
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<orion_midast:matrix.org> not everyone has time to research in every field. Someone can be an expert on certain topics but not knowledgable on others, thats why they would hire other pros or do some homework via listening to some influencers
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<orion_midast:matrix.org> He has chikens, so he is valid af
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satoshi in here trying to influence us
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<basses:matrix.org> why he left
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<basses:matrix.org> lol
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<basses:matrix.org> >Rob Braxman Is Dangerous
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<satoshi:matrix.harm0ny.is> That's exactly what a normie would say
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<basses:matrix.org> Dan 🤐 | alderman (Is not the man & Braxman Tomsparks Advocate ): thank god I archived it, it was deleted from cryptpad
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<orion_midast:matrix.org> My point stands
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<satoshi:matrix.harm0ny.is> In the time they are watching the video, they could've learned more by putting some effort into their research and doing their homework properly.
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<satoshi:matrix.harm0ny.is> People consoom the videos because it's more convenient, not because they don't have the time
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<preland:matrix.org> What closed source stuff does brax make?
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<preland:matrix.org> Ngl it intrigues me greatly that a “privacy guru” would be selling or even distributing something running closed-source software
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<preland:matrix.org> It makes me wonder if there is anything shady in there that simply needs a good Ghidra lookover to find
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<basses:matrix.org> his "private" messaging app was sending encryption keys to the server
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<123bob123:matrix.org> Brax still host on aws?
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<basses:matrix.org> yep
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<basses:matrix.org> last updated on play store 2020
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<basses:matrix.org> probably inspired by MyMonero