<j​ack_ma_blabla:matrix.org> you need private view key to scan blocks

<j​ack_ma_blabla:matrix.org> @endogenic i am not being mean, anytime LWS comes up you become aggressive & have been talking about showing something to public but never do, i am just fed up with the state of lws development; i have nothing against you or vtnerd who is actually working on it rn

probably fed up with the usd price in reality

<n​obfg9000:matrix.org> does anyone here know about fcmps?

<j​ack_ma_blabla:matrix.org> @endogenic dude this has nothing to do with price, if price was a issue i would have been in btc camp lol talking about how sexy their electrum servers are and how fucked up silent payments are

you still replying? you claim youre fed up with lws dev but the shit has literally existed since 2014

<j​ack_ma_blabla:matrix.org> what do you want to know about it ? implementation in monero ? its still under consideration/research

<n​obfg9000:matrix.org> does it just prevent people from stuffing random data in the ring signature data

<n​obfg9000:matrix.org> e.g. mordinals type of thing

<j​ack_ma_blabla:matrix.org> @endogenic When was your last commit or pull request on LWS? Even if it's been there since 2014, if it's not functional without account or subaddress support, it might not serve our needs. I understand you worked on MyMonero and encountered challenges. I'm just concerned about the current state of LWS.

<j​ack_ma_blabla:matrix.org> not sure, its still not even on paper

n​obfg9000 FCMPs make it so your tx is hidden among all txs, not 1 of 16 like it is now

1 of all

lws has all those things now

and as to your question of when my last pr was

why would i bother writing code on a public repo with hours you wont sponsor?

you have given monero apparently nothing

dont even talk to me

after i release my app i will share a load of PRs with you for free

you know why?

because i have no help. take responsibility

this is your community

<j​ack_ma_blabla:matrix.org> @endogenic yes, i also have FCMP ready but i will not share it why should i ? you are being mean to me ; go open a CCS if you are serious

i asked you not to talk to me

<j​ack_ma_blabla:matrix.org> feel free to ignore lol

and thanks for the impossible order. i'll just go open a ccs before i'm ready. jerk

why do we not kick these kind of guys

<j​ack_ma_blabla:matrix.org> get a chill pill, i am dont have your balls in my hands that you are being so violent

oh right. no we

<j​ack_ma_blabla:matrix.org> yah ban someone who wants progress

<3​21bob321:monero.social> When can we have “dev r u ok” day

<a​remor:matrix.org> twitter.com/bisq_network/status/1775461564444803382

<n​obfg9000:matrix.org> whats up with bisq and bisq 2

<n​obfg9000:matrix.org> i havent really been following

<n​obfg9000:matrix.org> also what is the deal with like haveno and this other one

<n​obfg9000:matrix.org> seraari

<a​remor:matrix.org> Darn nevermind. I don’t think bisq2 supports XMR yet.

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> non, not yet

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> will take a while, I think it's far down in there list

<n​obfg9000:matrix.org> oh wow I can see it is like the fifth option after trading between 5 different versions of bitcoin

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> Yep, they want to implement every way to trade the shitcoin before implementing Monero

<n​obfg9000:matrix.org> well thats cool i guess

<n​obfg9000:matrix.org> I just think liquid bitcoin is really dumb

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> Yep, indeed, same for me lol

<n​obfg9000:matrix.org> i was reading about it the other week, it's literally just a classical consensus "blockchain" and their justification is that the tokens are already backed by their 2-of-3 multisig so you might as well have them sign the blocks too

<n​obfg9000:matrix.org> lmao

<n​obfg9000:matrix.org> BCH<->XMR would be cool I think someones working on that. shame it wont be in bisq

<n​obfg9000:matrix.org> atomic swap i mean

I have a couple of questions related to Monero GUI. Is this a place that could help me?

<u​sername12345678901:matrix.org> simplifiedprivacy.com/libertarian-institute

<t​rasherdk:monero.social> > Simplified Privacy is proud to announce our partnership with the Libertarian Institute to promote, manage, and setup services for their Session & Nostr!

<t​rasherdk:monero.social> 😂

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> Already done i thought

trasherdk: "Session & Nostr!" I really don't like the whole trend of appifying all programs.

I don't want to chat or socialize on a tracking device known as the "smartphone"!

YES!!!

I do use one while my laptops are not completely functional. But I would not like to have private messaging there. All it gets are already-public groupchats on a separate account.

The only time I carry around a smartphone is when I also carry around a laptop, so I can use it as a portable WiFi router.

And that phone happens to be a PinePhone too.

Nice.

I do normally not carry one too, but now my laptops are in a state of "working but not quite" so I do. Alhough this is temporary.

<2​5inches:nitro.chat> Hello

<2​5inches:nitro.chat> Where to buy???

<2​5inches:nitro.chat> Without KYC

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> hello

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> do you have fiat or crypto?

<2​5inches:nitro.chat> Me?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> yes

<2​5inches:nitro.chat> No

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> Use Bitcoin instead if you want to purchase

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> Without kyc

<2​5inches:nitro.chat> I'm new to crypto although I know a bit about

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> Bisq 2 is superior to monero

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> If you have fiat money, id recommend localmonero.co

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> look for traders with many trades and good reviews

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> Do not - I repeat - do not use localmonero

<2​5inches:nitro.chat> Whats fiat?

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> You will get scammed

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> euro, dollar, etc

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> Fiat = monero inflation rate that steals your coins

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> retard

<2​5inches:nitro.chat> Are the sellers that unreliable?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> they arent

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> Did you know fluffyfatpony steals 2% of monero supply everyday? He mined coins early on and steals them from you. You can not prove it because everything obscured

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> this guy is stupid, even gave a completely false definition for fiat money. he doesnt know shit

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> Completely unreliable. Bisq 2 is 100% reliable and handles millions in volume. Bitcoin is also transparent and secure unlike Monero. Your coins can get stolen or your bank account closed dealing with this coin

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> yeah, bisq handles millions in monero volume and nothing else really

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> Everyone switch from Monero to Bitcoin yepp

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> The Monero exodus has begun after the spam attacks. 25inches run before you get scammed

<2​5inches:nitro.chat> I'm a bit disoriented but are yall saying I should buy bitcoin from IRL money and then convert that to xmr?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> 25, dont listen to the bitcoin troll

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> Do not use Monero at all. You can buy Bitcoin privately with Bisq 2. Search it up

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> Why do you think Bitcoin is #1 in marketcap?

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> Look at where Monero is #50 and declining. Because it is a scam!

<2​5inches:nitro.chat> Ok I have a feeling hodlbtc is a troll since he just joined lmao

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> you can buy monero directly on localmonero, some of the traders on there have literally tens of thousands of completed trades

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> Look at Bisq 2

<d​ave.jp:matrix.org> No scams go up

scams always stay low

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> Monerobull is a bag holder

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> He is trying to get you to buy an unsecure coin that will steal your money

<d​ave.jp:matrix.org> 😂

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> I am trying to make you money and give you safety. You can sleep at night knowing that fluffy fat is not siphoning your coins into his bank account

<2​5inches:nitro.chat> Do you have to buy large amounts tho? I'm thinking of only spending like 20$ at first

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> 25inches: DM me and I can show you the truth if you are knew to this coin

<d​ave.jp:matrix.org> Coins in his bank account, wow how ?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> small amounts should be fine

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> Partnership with Kraken

<d​ave.jp:matrix.org> Show it publicly

you buy bitcoin at the top hodlbtc?

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> Scammers and criminals

<d​ave.jp:matrix.org> Partnership lol 😂

<2​5inches:nitro.chat> Im not dm'ing anyone lol

<d​ave.jp:matrix.org> Prove it

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> good.

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> I will send you the list and you can make your own judgement. Look at how many people suddenly joined to call me a troll. Because they want your money they are hungry

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> bisq will be eaten up by haveno

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> Like fat fluffy

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/CAqsSDFnmEVcPIAKhpBCDEHw

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> Hungry for the money

<2​5inches:nitro.chat> Hungry for 20$ lmao

<d​ave.jp:matrix.org> That fluffy holds btc lol so yah fat hungry greedy

fluffy probably agrees more with hodlbtc than the people calling him a troll yes

<2​5inches:nitro.chat> When I looked at localmonero before it looked like you had to buy at least 1 xmr from them

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> I sent you the list. Look at it before you touch localscamonero

<2​5inches:nitro.chat> and it seems like youd lose a lot of money in the exchange

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> it really depends on the seller

<2​5inches:nitro.chat> like if xmr costed 160$ it would cost me 180$ on localmonero

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> With Bisq 2 you're guaranteed your money no matter what seller you choose. Localmonero your coins can and will eventually get stolen

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> Bitcoin lightning is perfect for $20

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> the only one really at risk is sellers accepting reversible payment methods bro

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> Fees are $0 and instant payments

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> Dont use Monero

<2​5inches:nitro.chat> bro why tf are you in the monero room then

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> Not only will localmonero scam you but because this shitcoin doesnt have lws you will have to wait 5 days minimum to sync the chain after the attacks

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> Read what I sent you. Im preventing you from getting scammed

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> Read what I sent you. I'm preventing you from getting scammed

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> my wallet synced 10k blocks in less than 20 seconds

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> For a new user it will take atleast 5 days

why you freaking out so hard in a #50 mcap coin channel?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> to sync a full node, maybe

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> a new wallet doesnt need syncing

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> you dont know anything man

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> This innocent person is about to be scammed and I'm worried for them

lol

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> yeah they should totally buy 20$ worth of bitcoin where theyll instantly loose 6$ on transaction fees

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> Lightning is $0 in fees

onboarding / offboarding fees are what?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> show me a DNM that accepts lightning

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> With monero you lose 100% after the localmonero seller runs with your money

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> Criminal

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> boohoo

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> Bitcoin is the only cryptocurrency. Everything else is shit

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> it literally cant be used as a currency

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> El salvador proves you wrong

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> 25inches: check out matrix.to/#/#agoradesk:agoradesk.com if you have any questions

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> agoradesk is run by the same people as localmonero

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> its basically interchangable

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> its basically interchangeable

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> 25inches: use bisq 2

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> I warned you. Don't come crying when your money is gone

<2​5inches:nitro.chat> Agoradesk is the people who make localmonero and the BTC equivalent right?

<2​5inches:nitro.chat> Its just 20$ bro i wont be crying

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> localbitcoins was shut down because nobody uses bitcoin :P

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> Not only $20 you're associating yourself with a criminal coin

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> Your ISP will blacklist you and you will be put onto a list

<2​5inches:nitro.chat> Ay when did this happen?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> agoradesk is agoradesk and localmonero

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> like a year or two ago

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> they didnt make enough money to pay for their 100 people compliance department, go figure

localmonero might be the only way to do it with cash by mail. Probably high risk though I haven't done it

<2​5inches:nitro.chat> I see it with an update 5 days ago on fdroid

<2​5inches:nitro.chat> Im not gonna do cash by mail tho

how did you want to pay for the xmr then?

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> I understand now

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> Clearly this person is involved in criminal activity

<2​5inches:nitro.chat> This is a good question

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> You will be caught by authorities for using this coin. Monero is a backdoor

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> coindesk.com/business/2023/02/09/bi…s-to-close-citing-market-conditions

<2​5inches:nitro.chat> This is cap, also i have nothing to hide

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> Use Bitcoin

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> coindesk.com/markets/2021/08/02/for…be-extradited-for-non-crypto-crimes

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> wired.com/story/monero-privacy

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> theregister.com/2023/11/08/monero_project_developers_announce_breach

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/1bak3to/monero_spam_recap

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> Monero is a scam read these links I sent

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> none of these are really protocol issues

<2​5inches:nitro.chat> Seems like that might be an opsec issue?

<b​asses:matrix.org> where is satoshi?

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> Criminal

<2​5inches:nitro.chat> But do you need opsec if youre just planning on buying legal, normal stuff

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> If you use Monero you will be targeted

<b​asses:matrix.org> opsec differs when you are developing the protocol

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> fluffy was jailed for fraud allegedly committed years before he started working on monero

<b​asses:matrix.org> not just for users

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> Bitcoin is never targeted as it's a pure coin

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> you misspelled "as its been captured by blackrock"

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> Infinite supply

bitcoin was targeted and succesfully subverted

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> oh no how can i ever deal wit sub 1% inflation

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> btw bitcoin currently has higher inflation than monero

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> No Monero has a higher inflation it's hidden though

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> kek

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> prove it. heres all the math you need: moneroinflation.com

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> 25inches: bitrefill.com + bisq 2

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> also this guy is buying 20$ worth lmao

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> If you're buying a legal item

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> he couldnt care less if there is 10000% inflation

<2​5inches:nitro.chat> I said I only plan to use it for normal things

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> If you insist on using Monero you're a criminal

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> If this Bitcoin guy would seriously care about you and just hates monero for some reason, he'd suggest you use litecoin

<2​5inches:nitro.chat> Damn

hodlbtc you talk about monero like people used to talk about bitcoin

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> Bitcoin lightning fees are $0 and mainnet is $0.93

onboard/offboard on lightning have what fees?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Oh wow, monero transactions are private and cost 1 cent

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Even during heavy load when BTC fees go to 60$ 🤔

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> Lightning is always $0

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Literally isnt

hodlbtc is adam back?

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> $0 you can buy bisq 2 lightning btc

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> During the ordinals phase, every lightning channel below 65$ was insecure and you could have lost money

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> And many did

<3​21bob321:monero.social> How much to open LN channel?

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> Monero has lost 50% and more and still counting

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> 50% since when

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> 25inches tries to buy an item and then suddenly he loses half his money

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Lmao

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Monero is up 4% today, BTC is down 1%

oh no his $20 becomes $10? What a tragedy!

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> With Bitcoin that $20 can become $200

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> After halving

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Lmao

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Yeah, go tell yourself that

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> hodlbtc will probably log into "btcgoingto0" later today, just doing it for the lols

or since all mainstream tards are already promoting btc perhaps it's cooked and done this time

<e​ndor00:matrix.org> hodlbtc: reminder that this is Monero . If you don't have anything useful to contribute to the conversation, you can show yourself out. Trolling and shilling BTC is not welcome here

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Of course

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> Bitcoin will never go to 0

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> No way this is a real Bitcoin guy, those usually understand why monero has merit

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> OK SER

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> mandelbrot42: You're making a mistake buddy

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Same for the 4chan threads, it's often just xmr people having a bit of fun trolling

<3​21bob321:monero.social> ?

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> No Bitcoin talk here SER

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> im seeing monero dot social things from matrix dot org now 🤔

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> Only Monero talk here SER

I just set Matrix up and kinda concerned with how prevalent matrix.org is.

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Rip

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> 25inches: I'm reporting you for being a criminal

<2​5inches:nitro.chat> Sure

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> Hopefully nitro.chat bans you from their instance

<2​5inches:nitro.chat> I made this account 20 minutes ago so thats fine

Also tried monero.social before hosting, but it wanted an email address.

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> You will be 25 inches under the ground dead if you buy $20 worth of Monero

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> Fluffy will come into your house and tickle you to death

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> That's plowsofs job and he's seriously behind on his duties

<2​5inches:nitro.chat> Is this how you earn someones trust?

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> r/Bitcoin has the best moderation and I'm proud of it

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Please request a ticket number and he'll get back to you in 5-6 months

<2​5inches:nitro.chat> Lmao

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> r/Bitcoin moderators are better than plowsof

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Of course you'd love censorship

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> why would you say something so hurtful. too far?

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> Why are you banning your own developers?

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> We don't censor our own developers

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> I've seen people literally go "yeah but Satoshi was wrong" after they saw emails of him being a big blocker

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> And that's after Satoshi was their god and every word he wrote their Bible for nearly 20 years

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> Those people were banned from r/Bitcoin for propaganda

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> You probably saw that on Twitter by propaganda spreaders. Satoshi still reigns supreme

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Also you literally do, samourai devs have been literally doxxed

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> Stop talking about Bitcoin buddy

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> See how good it is. You can't resist

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> What

<b​asses:matrix.org> Just keep banning

satoshi suggested ring sigs too

<b​asses:matrix.org> no point

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> No he didn't?

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> If you prove he did I'll buy Monero

ok... there's literally a bitcointalk thread. I'll have to look for the link

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> where is the best place to troll monero fans - hopefully not here

<b​asses:matrix.org> GrapheneOS has strict rules and ban immediately cuz if shit like that

<b​asses:matrix.org> GrapheneOS has strict rules and ban immediately cuz of shit like that

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> How much

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> 1

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Ok does someone have the Bitcointalk post?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/wSyHxdXYLBWnNKdCYpaxPzQO

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> here

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> Photoshop. I need to see a real post

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> Give me the link

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> literal link in the screenshot you retard

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> Could be a phishing link for all I know

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> bitcointalk.org?

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> I need a link I can copy

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> ok buddy

thanks monerobull

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> I'm not your buddy Monero criminal user

<e​ndor00:matrix.org> Ah yes, because copy-pasting links is safer than typing them yourself

how much xmr would you like to buy hodlbtc? I can sell it to you

<e​ndor00:matrix.org> Guys, stop feeding the troll

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=770.msg9074#msg9074

<b​asses:matrix.org> hodlbtc: now fuck off

<2​5inches:nitro.chat> facts

<h​odlbtc:bitcoinist.org> Holy fuck

shaddup endor00 I'm about to trade my criminal xmr for actual BITCOIN!

<e​ndor00:matrix.org> hodlbtc: either have a civilized conversation, or you're out

I will sell you 1 xmr for 1 btc each thanx

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> why ban, he still needs to buy 1 xmr

<3​21bob321:monero.social> One xmr in the swear jar

<2​5inches:nitro.chat> entrepreneur mindset

just buy one xmr and send it to the dev fund hodlbtc that would be funny

<b​asses:matrix.org> lmao

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> 43XmrbuLLWD3JGHg8CRCdPBCrYB1CLZMBXfiDoeyoqF24cruNGFXqDpFExckKxDo9ggmgKGazwsdPcJtee1AqhRyCRn7JqZ

heh u did a vanity address?

<b​asses:matrix.org> imgflip.com/memegenerator/179249033/Anime-girl-buying

<b​asses:matrix.org> >Could be a phishing link for all I know

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Its a trap

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> trust 🙏

<3​21bob321:monero.social> 43townyvWJ82Ct4xWKrgAMJyfcbtUNfA6VVhgXWiH6pdgexBvcU8AnfTXDecaP12cqM7d7jYiriAwiyFff1o5C8xEBiLU3h

<b​asses:matrix.org> lemmy access when?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> got no outstanding approvals

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> although i was away last week so some were only approved after about 4 days

<b​asses:matrix.org> don't want to bribe 0.01 XMR

<b​asses:matrix.org> I was joking, I didn't sign up yet

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> just let me know once youve done so

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> Tight asses 0.01 is nothing

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> There is about 400xmr in ccs ideas

<b​asses:matrix.org> Another hacker bounty to claim

<b​asses:matrix.org> monero.town/post/2678558

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> Careful you get fly kicked

<b​asses:matrix.org> ?

<c​trej:matrix.org> texting this reply from 25 inches underground

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> Long storey

<b​asses:matrix.org> All ears 👀

<b​asses:matrix.org> can post in DM or secret PG loungr

<b​asses:matrix.org> can post in DM or secret PG lounge

<a​remor:matrix.org> Dawg “Darknet Diaries” is a dope podcast

<a​remor:matrix.org> Good to have on in the background while getting stuff done.

<a​remor:matrix.org> Not too complex to where you have to hear every word but not brain dead either

<p​reland:matrix.org> Guys can we actually retire the Monero subreddits? Please. The quicker we get out, the faster we can get away from the horrid botting and glowie behavior that’s ruining basically every single post on the site.

We always have monero.town

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> Reddit is actually the best for people to find us.

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> Because search engine are eating themself plus the all AI SEO that is poisoning them with garbage

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> I told myself a few month ago "I't me or google is ultra shit and can't find decent result?"

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> Looked it up and yeah, the thing is shitting itself. And yes, the best way now to find an answer for a query is "the query +reddit"

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> Sad but true, don't remove Monero from Reddit

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> Google, Bing(duckduckgo) and some other search engine all are degrading fast since at least two year to the point that they are going to become useless if they don't find a way to fix it

<b​asses:matrix.org> how?

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> They injest poison

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> AI generated trash (now probably over 70% of the generated internet content)

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> Plus lot of the new content is behind locked door (on social scams that require login ...)

including discuck

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> I did notice a really big degradation in the quality of the result I get.

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> And it got a lot worser in the last year

for sure

<b​asses:matrix.org> there isn't any true competitor tho, brave search is meh

<b​asses:matrix.org> google index is much better

<b​asses:matrix.org> you gotta append reddit tho

need a search engine that gets its results from only monero channels

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> Yeah... so keep Monero on Reddit lol

<b​asses:matrix.org> or search news.ycombinator.com

that is only really for IT topics tho

But yea, agree with the point - rather search specialized resources.

<b​asses:matrix.org> kycnot.me/service/crypto%20efectivo wtf is that logo

sech1: monero.town is not moderated

you can promote illegal stuff there probably or accuse people without proof etc

<a​remor:matrix.org> I use startpage and DDG

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> startpage is a google proxy right?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> afaik ye

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> while DDG a Bing proxy

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> Both affected by the AI poison

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> startpage proxy is realy useful

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> Yeah, I do like startpage actually

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> I began to use that when it was named ixquick or something like that

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Sry granpa. Never heard of this

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> It's the same exact site, just different name, before the rebrand

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> just type ixquick.com in the browser lol

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> I guess ixquick was meh for a name and the service kindof became popular so them rebrand to something better

<b​asses:matrix.org> starpage is slow asf, use searxng

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> searxng is great. I like using it to spy on the FBI

<l​aserbeams:matrix.org> Regarding the "How to create a Monero paper wallet" guide at getmonero.org, I have a few questions. It's odd to me that step one is "acquire monero" and step two is "create a paper wallet." I would have thought that you need a wallet before you acquire monero. 2nd question: how/why is it possible to generate a wallet on an offline computer?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> or planify assassination of US presidents

<b​asses:matrix.org> Guides on getmonero.org are not the best

<b​asses:matrix.org> malvarma.org

<b​asses:matrix.org> better

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> >I would have thought that you need a wallet before you acquire monero.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Indeed. This is odd and you're right. You need to first create a wallet to receive monero. I think the post may focus on paper wallet to save monero you already have

<l​aserbeams:matrix.org> Ok thanks I'll read it.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> > ow/why is it possible to generate a wallet on an offline computer?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> You need to download the latest monero GUI wallet or other wallet software on a usb key and copy it on your offline computer. That is the only solution. From there you should be able to create new unsynced wallet. From there you can create addresses and use them to receive monero

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> > ow/why is it possible to generate a wallet on an offline computer?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> You need to download the latest monero GUI wallet or other wallet software on a usb key and copy it on your offline computer. That is the only solution. From there you should be able to create new unsynced wallet and you can create addresses and use them to receive monero

<h​elasse:linarphy.net> For the why:

<h​elasse:linarphy.net> cryptocurrency wallets rely on (asymetric) cryptography keys to encrypt/decrypt/prove transfers and ownership of money

<h​elasse:linarphy.net> A "wallet" is also of cryptographic nature. Generating cryptographic keys does not require internet access, and sending money only requires knowing a specific cryptographic key associated with the wallet

<l​aserbeams:matrix.org> It is improbable but not impossible that they same key is generated more than once?

You have no idea how improbable, but yeah, it's pure chance, and as such, in theory, you can generate the same key twice

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> yeah, possible but you have more chance to die from pluto moon charon falling right on your house while you sleep

<e​ndor00:matrix.org> For a semi-comprehensible picture: imagine dividing the entire known universe into bags of ~1000 atoms (!) each. The odds of generating the same keys by chance are the same odds of two people picking the same bag

<l​aserbeams:matrix.org> Got it, thanks y'all.

<l​aserbeams:matrix.org> I understand. Thanks y'all.

"Both affected by the AI poison" They really want that sweet, sweet BlackRock loans.

<v​enture4487:matrix.org> That's all assuming true random distribution when generating. sometimes I wonder about the entropy from the pseudo random algos in computers and how far off it is 😅

<a​lex:agoradesk.com> localmonero.co/the-monero-standard/weekly/100

<a​lex:agoradesk.com> Monero Standard #100! 🎉

i love how im impatient for the ai bot to figure out my code. whereas 8 years ago I couldn't imagine I could just tell a bot to write script

<p​cre:matrix.org> youtube.com/watch?v=YTTac2XjyFY

<m​rwonderland:tchncs.de> twitter.com/shopinbit/status/1775930595731775991