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m-relay
<5m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> XMREUR @ 140
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m-relay
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m-relay
<5m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> +20% growth in the last month to date
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m-relay
<321bob321:monero.social> moon?
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<karano:poddery.com> It will moon when all cex delist it
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m-relay
<karano:poddery.com> Would be interesting to see price discovery in dex then
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remiliascarlet
BlueyHealer: "I hate how Matrix has this one central homeserver that has its tentacles in pretty much every major chat." Because the mainstream tends to go to whichever instance they heard about in the media. Mastodon and Misskey suffer from the exact same problem. However, things like Pleroma and Mitra don't, not only because the sheep won't go there, but these 2 don't have a "flagship" instance
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remiliascarlet
too.
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marsupialSoup
mooning after getting delisted everywhere would be pretty funny
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m-relay
<karano:poddery.com> Thats why i am holding up my monero till every cex delist it
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remiliascarlet
Email is the other big one. Everyone is either GayMail, or HateMail/Outlook/Live.com, or Yahoo, or ProtonMail.
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m-relay
<karano:poddery.com> I strongly believe price would jump over $200 in a week or so
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remiliascarlet
Only a few do selfhosted email, and we are the ones who have to deal with Google and Microsoft's rather hostile anti-selfhosting bullshit.
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m-relay
<karano:poddery.com> Its ok , as far as we are not wholly dependent on matrix for hosting our rooms.
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m-relay
<recanman:kernal.eu> It's also a matter of convenience
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m-relay
<recanman:kernal.eu> Most people are going to use what is in front of them, the defaults, as long as it 'just works'
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m-relay
<recanman:kernal.eu> Privacy isn't a primary consideration
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m-relay
<karano:poddery.com> Like if matrix were ever to go , monero community should survive here.
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m-relay
<karano:poddery.com> Only the folks on matrix server would have to find new home
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m-relay
<karano:poddery.com> Like if matrix server were ever to go , monero community should survive here.
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m-relay
<karano:poddery.com> Only the folks on matrix server would have to find new home
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marsupialSoup
decentralized chat pools matter
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m-relay
<karano:poddery.com> xmpp is far better decentralised,but as said its also a matter of convenience where max people can agree to to use
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m-relay
<karano:poddery.com> xmpp is far better decentralised,but as said its also a matter of convenience what max people can agree to to use and we have to find a middle ground
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m-relay
<karano:poddery.com> xmpp is much better decentralised, but as said earlier its also a matter of convenience for most people and so we have to find a middle ground
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m-relay
<nobfg9000:matrix.org> i've heard that you can have some degree of decentralization of IRC servers
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m-relay
<nobfg9000:matrix.org> but this is mostly for the purposes of performance in the old days and not "political" decentralization/redundancy as we might think of it now
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m-relay
<nobfg9000:matrix.org> that is to say, a single IRC server failing or being hijacked would cause the entire IRC network to fail or be hijacked
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remiliascarlet
"its also a matter of convenience where max people can agree to to use" Even though this literally doesn't matter.
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remiliascarlet
"a single IRC server failing or being hijacked would cause the entire IRC network to fail or be hijacked" This already happened before. See Freenode for example, and how the the Korean crownprince prompted everyone to leave Freenode and move to Libera.Chat instead. Which by itself is stupid, because self hosting your own IRC server is really the easiest thing in the world to do.
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marsupialSoup
I haven't been in the Monero Matrix chat yet. Are people pretty active in there?
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remiliascarlet
And before the whole Freenode situation, I didn't even know that South Korea had a crownprince (let alone a royal family).
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remiliascarlet
Correction: self hosting an IRC server is the 2nd easiest thing. Self hosting static HTML + CSS webpages are the very easiest.
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marsupialSoup
remiliascarlet: I was unware of that until just now lol
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m-relay
<kimapr0:matrix.org> tradeogre USDT withdrawal is so high. 10 dollars. WTF
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uncle_rae
is it tradeogre causing that or the etheiscam network?
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uncle_rae
whenever I have to use usdt i do so over tron
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m-relay
<dave.jp:matrix.org> Only withdraw monero
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<kimapr0:matrix.org> The entire purpose of me going there was to put monero and get usdt out
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BlueyHealer
Why usdt?
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m-relay
<dave.jp:matrix.org> Getting a centralised shitcoin is never a good idea, anyways ETH tokens are expensive to transfer
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m-relay
<kimapr0:matrix.org> what about Tron tokens
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uncle_rae
tron is cheap to transfer over
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uncle_rae
assuming you already have trx in your wallet
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BlueyHealer
Never seen Tron accepted anywhere tbh... How are the fees?
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BlueyHealer
ah nevermind you answered lol
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m-relay
<dave.jp:matrix.org> Tron fees are weird sometimes you pay zero sometimes you pay a lot
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uncle_rae
i've never paid "a lot"
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uncle_rae
especially when compared to some of the btc fees i've paid over the years
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BlueyHealer
What is Tron even used for? The only cryptos I have seen accepted in places are BTC, LTC, XMR and sometimes ETH.
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uncle_rae
it was one of a number of eth killers that came on the market and was still born
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uncle_rae
but it's good for usdt, for those who insist on it
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m-relay
<kimapr0:matrix.org> I needed USDT to pay for something (that does not accept monero). just got them elsewhere
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BlueyHealer
How are the fees on USDT?
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BlueyHealer
BTW my domain is soon to be renewed, and I thought of a "proper" registration instead of Njalla. Really wish registrars accepted Monero more.
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uncle_rae
depend son the network BlueyHealer - you can send usdt over tron, eth or some others that are all cheaper than eth
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m-relay
<kimapr0:matrix.org> i'll make it worse, i sent them to a custodial wallet
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BlueyHealer
I don't even have a custodial wallet lol
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m-relay
<kimapr0:matrix.org> the "custodial wallet" in question is actually Telegram
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BlueyHealer
What did you need a wallet in Telegram of all things? I wouldn't trust Telegram with my lunch money!
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m-relay
<prancing389:matrix.org> Monero breached $158 overnight
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m-relay
<prancing389:matrix.org> My fellow Monero enthusiasts,
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m-relay
<prancing389:matrix.org> In the pursuit of our cause, let us be unequivocal: we will not support any reduction in privacy or anonymity. These are the pillars upon which Monero stands, the very essence of our mission. The moment we allow these principles to falter, we risk losing the sanctuary we have built. It is then that we must seek refuge elsewhere.
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m-relay
<prancing389:matrix.org> The likes of Russell Brand and Glenn Beck may not grasp the profound necessity of the privacy and anonymity that Monero offers, but we do. We understand that our goal is not to appease the existing system, but to transcend it. We have borne witness to enough theft, war, and hegemony to last a hundred lifetimes. The time has come to cast aside any semblance of compromise in our mes<clipped message>
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m-relay
<prancing389:matrix.org> saging. Privacy and anonymity are non-negotiable.
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m-relay
<prancing389:matrix.org> Are we not the central bank killers that Satoshi envisioned? Are we not the vanguard of a new era, where financial sovereignty is reclaimed by the individual? Now is not the time to waver. We must weather every storm that comes our way, for there will be many. But united in our unwavering commitment to privacy and anonymity, we shall prevail.
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m-relay
<prancing389:matrix.org> Let us march forward, resolute and unyielding, in our shared mission. Together, we will ensure that Monero remains a beacon of freedom in an increasingly surveilled world.
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m-relay
<prancing389:matrix.org> Privacy and anonymity, now and forever!
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m-relay
<ct:xmr.mx> is this another AI blog post?
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plowsof
Yeah from matrix dot org too
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BlueyHealer
haha
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m-relay
<mmxxx:matrix.org> russell brand?
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<nihilist:m.datura.network> Random thought : a YouTube clone with the same business model but with monero funding ads and popular content creators getting rewarded in monero
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m-relay
<nihilist:m.datura.network> But probably not realistically feasible
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m-relay
<nihilist:m.datura.network> But probably not realistically feasible (requires an astronomical amount of storage)
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<xmrfamily:matrix.org> Financially I don't think this plan would work
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<kimapr0:matrix.org> BlueyHealer: there's a bot/service on telegram that accepts payments via the telegram crypto wallet. it among other things tops up Steam account balance
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BlueyHealer
ah
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BlueyHealer
telegram of all things
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BlueyHealer
I thought of finding something on plati.ru, but then filled it via a classmate's app.
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m-relay
<preland:matrix.org> Was thinking something similar but ran into the same issue
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m-relay
<preland:matrix.org> Maybe if you have a lot of compute (from retired XMR miners maybe?) you can use handbrake to ultra-compress the videos lol
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BlueyHealer
I would be scared using a custodial wallet at all.
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m-relay
<preland:matrix.org> You can even get videos to be streamable via I2P using Handbrake, which is…..insane😂
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m-relay
<nihilist:m.datura.network> lol yea
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<mmxxx:matrix.org> why scared?
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BlueyHealer
Kind of afraid of them banning me for some reason and taking my money
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BlueyHealer
IDK if this by itself increases the chance of banning, but I have known people who were banned, appealing it is pretty much impossible.
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m-relay
<monerobull:matrix.org> Custodial wallets are not different from a PayPal account
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BlueyHealer
exactly
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m-relay
<monerobull:matrix.org> They can arbitrarily block you from access to your funds or run away with them entirely
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BlueyHealer
And I feel like Telegram is a bit more ban-happy than Paypal
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m-relay
<mmxxx:matrix.org> oh, you mean third party wallets
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m-relay
<mmxxx:matrix.org> ok, well yes, those are stupid
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m-relay
<pepe86frog:matrix.org> looks like it lol, who's doing this
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m-relay
<pepe86frog:matrix.org> Tradeogre set that withdrawal fee.
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marsupialSoup
what's your favorite wallet that allows you to connect to your own node?
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nioCat
CLI
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nioCat
or did you mean mobile wallet?
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BlueyHealer
AFAIK Feather allows that.
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marsupialSoup
nioCat: mobile and/or desktop wallets
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marsupialSoup
i've only really messed around with cake wallet a bit
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BlueyHealer
I don't use my own node because the amounts I have are very low. But searching it now and Feather Wallet's website says it allows any node.
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nioCat
you should be able to use any node with any wallet
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marsupialSoup
there are some that don't let you set a custom node
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nioCat
that sucks lol
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rbrunner
Well, some don't work with regular Monero nodes, but only with MyMonero servers and derivatives. You don't happen to run of those yourself just like that :)
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BlueyHealer
What wallets don't allow this??
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rbrunner
Just claim those are not "true Monero wallets" and you have kicked them already out of the way
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nioCat
:)
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BlueyHealer
By the way, TIL that Cake has a Linux beta
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marsupialSoup
yeah, the wallets that are not tru monero wallets don't always let you connect to your own node
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BlueyHealer
Looking into Cake's features now and it's kind of sad that they prioritize mobile.
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MajesticBank
average user doesn't run own node anyway
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MajesticBank
you can also spin node for mymonero if you give it a try
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marsupialSoup
ah, I am an above average user then :)
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MajesticBank
it doesn't scale well as I understand but it sync fast
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MajesticBank
great for new users
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BlueyHealer
What is different about MyMonero even?
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BlueyHealer
marsupialSoup, I would have run my node if I had any significant amounts of crypto - with just $5 spent a month, it's not worth it for me.
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MajesticBank
a lot people just want to use monero and use it fast
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MajesticBank
wallets like mymonero are important
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nioCat
mymonero has your view keys
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BlueyHealer
oh wow
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MajesticBank
tor guard nodes have your ip also
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nioCat
that's how you don't need to wait for the wallet to sync
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MajesticBank
it doesn't mean anything
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MajesticBank
run your own monero-lws
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nioCat
just run your own node :)
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nioCat
MajesticBank> a lot people just want to use monero and use it fast <<>> and then >>><MajesticBank> run your own monero-lws
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nioCat
hmmmm
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marsupialSoup
the node setup is pretty easy if you have hardware that isn't being used
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BlueyHealer
BTW is it safe if a node gets set up on a VPS instead of a box at home?
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MajesticBank
nioCat: if worried then run your own node else mymonero fine
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MajesticBank
be happy
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nioCat
BlueyHealer: many people do that
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MajesticBank
/dns4/atomicswaps.majesticbank.at/tcp/8888/p2p/12D3KooWKJUwP45K7fLbwGY1VM5V3U7LseU8EwJiAozUFrq5ihoF
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MajesticBank
Atomic swaps rendezvous point, our offers on the way
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MajesticBank
You can use this rendezvous point to register your asb using [network] directive in config file
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MajesticBank
Tutorial soon
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m-relay
<conk:monero.social> Is trocador down?
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plowsof
looks like it, morpheus
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m-relay
<123bob123:matrix.org> Yeep for a while
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m-relay
<cryptomorpheus_:matrix.org> Yeah, we are suffering DDoS
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m-relay
<cryptomorpheus_:matrix.org> Should be back soon
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m-relay
<conk:monero.social> Is it possible to buy crypto using credit card in trocador?
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m-relay
<cryptomorpheus_:matrix.org> We should be back online. Some VPN connections are still being blocked due to a very strict policy to contain the DDoS.
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m-relay
<123bob123:matrix.org> uptimekuma says down
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Soulthorn
If a currency is private then the state or any other gang can't get its share. How about that?