<k​i9:gf4.pw> You know I might start solo mining (with my friend) just to avoid consolidating.

<k​i9:gf4.pw> Then again, we could mine for years and get nothing. So $3 and some tx time is not a bad tradeoff for a hedge against dry times.

<k​i9:gf4.pw> I use the mined xmr for a vpn proxy we share. So I don't want to miss a payment because we didn't find a block this year.

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> In my experience, small miners get plenty lucky

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> youre "halfway" there already

<k​i9:gf4.pw> Haha that's called Gambler's Fallacy

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> If you dont find a block within the next 50% if calculated time, switch back to p2pool

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Youve mined for 50% of the time already, and luckily didnt get lucky

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> youre always 100% of the time away from finding a block

<k​i9:gf4.pw> I just don't want to gamble. I think our minings cover like 95% of the vpn bill, maybe it's completely covered.

<k​i9:gf4.pw> We also only mine in the winter. I don't know about his costs but I spend about $2 in electricity for every $1 I make in xmr. So it's not worth it in the summer.

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> also, make sure you consolidate locally

<k​i9:gf4.pw> Like, don't send the unconsolidated funds?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> if you consolidate when spending externally, your tx is easily traceable

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Correct

<k​i9:gf4.pw> Traceable by the recipient or anyone?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> The 2379 inputs create 16 New outputs. You should also cpnsolidate these locally.

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> the recipient will know your mining address (if they want to)

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> And anyone watching on chain will know when you spend the outputs, but not where you sent them

<k​i9:gf4.pw> Anyone that knows my address would know when I spent them... would they know how much.

<k​i9:gf4.pw> Just curious, not evading LEO. 😋

<k​i9:gf4.pw> Anyone that knows my address would know when I spent them... would they know how much?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Yea

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Coinbase outputs arent hidden

<k​i9:gf4.pw> You mean mining is not private? So if I publicize my primary address, everyone can see the mining.

correct

if you mine on any pool, including p2pool, its not private

solomining is private

Amounts and consolidations can be seen, but not associated with an address

<k​i9:gf4.pw> I see. Good to know.

<n​ihilist:nowhere.moe> that's how it is with centralised exchanges mate, they're all forced to comply eventually

<n​ihilist:nowhere.moe> that's how it is with centralised exchanges mate, they're all forced to comply eventually (or to go out of business with enough compliance pressure)

I mostly avoid them because the KYC is likely enough to take a credit in my name, lol

<t​sjk:bitcoinist.org> Does anybody know of a xmr price api I can occasionally curl?

<t​sjk:bitcoinist.org> For free.

Maybe whatever Feather uses?

<k​evino:tchncs.de> coingecko api is free i guess

<t​sjk:bitcoinist.org> Can't finding what Feather uses... I'll look at coingecko.

<a​ndrewjackson:matrix.org> Exchanges are just Government franchises now

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> kewbit.org/haveno-app-beta-release

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> We are excited to announce the beta release of the Haveno app on Windows, Mac, and Android! Haveno is a decentralized peer-to-peer exchange platform for Monero, providing users with a secure and private way to trade. This beta release marks a significant milestone in our journey to delivering a robust, user-friendly experience across multiple platforms.

<q​uickex:matrix.org> hey guys! watch out Quickex giveaway results, mb you are lucky that time!

<q​uickex:matrix.org> t.me/Quickex_en/547

hey guys, any alternatives to kraken in europe?

<n​ihilist:nowhere.moe> Https://haveno-reto.com

M-relay, thanks, it looks a bit complicated though.

I guess there's no other choices atm...

<n​ihilist:nowhere.moe> Feel free to check out my tutorials on it, if you're struggling with the app at first

I did check out haveno-reto and it's possible to buy/sell XMR using Revolut, for example. So it should be a viable option for people in EU.

<k​evino:tchncs.de> nice !

I bet there will be many more offers there after the end of October.

Yes. Thank you sech1

I'm kinda sad, have been a very long time kraken customer... Well move on

Good thing you'd be ditching a KYC exchange!

I would probably give it a try as well (idk if there are offers in my area though), I do have the initial XMR if needed)

how do I clean my water-pipe, and, also; HOW THE FUCK CAN I SUCCESSFULLY BY-PASS CLOUDFLARE "GIMCRACKS" !?!? TYTY...

:-)

0/

<k​evino:tchncs.de> do i need to link the desktop version to the mobile ?

<k​evino:tchncs.de> i only have linux though

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Just run it in a virtual box

<k​evino:tchncs.de> ohh

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> I am making AppImage, Flatpak and Snap

<k​evino:tchncs.de> in the future will it be the same way ?

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> But snap is shit

<k​evino:tchncs.de> i thought Android app will be independent

<k​evino:tchncs.de> i am on Mint , snap don't work on it

<k​evino:tchncs.de> i'll wait for appimage

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> I was adviced by wooder to use the daemon, not the peer to peer protobuf protobuf protocol, which made things easier for me, just requires a server or desktop running. If you prefer not to use a desktop I have started preparing a docker stack at hub.docker.com/u/havenodex which you can use to setup and kind of configuration, you can easily run your own network, seednodes, <clipped message>

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> daemon, rest APi server, I’ve also created some docker compose files which take advantage of dockers network to force all traffic from these services through a trans proxy, so it works a lot like whonix but within docker containers. It would be more secure in my opinion to do this if using Whonix, or Quebs-Whonix is not viable option for you which will always be my primary recom<clipped message>

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> mendation, Docker, lxc and/or containerd, will all work with Mint

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> I was adviced by wooder to use the daemon, not the peer to peer protobuf protobuf protocol, which made things easier for me, just requires a server or desktop running. If you prefer not to use a desktop I have started preparing a docker stack at hub.docker.com/u/havenodex which you can use to setup any kind of configuration, you can easily run your own network, seednodes, <clipped message>

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> daemon, rest APi server, I’ve also created some docker compose files which take advantage of dockers network to force all traffic from these services through a trans proxy, so it works a lot like whonix but within docker containers. It would be more secure in my opinion to do this if using Whonix, or Quebs-Whonix is not viable option for you which will always be my primary recom<clipped message>

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> mendation, Docker, lxc and/or containerd, will all work with Mint

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Although this is quite complex/optimistic the compose stack includes, many services one to protect DNS leaks, one to encrypt the DNS, one to force all traffic from the main container to the trans proxy one to host the p2p, you might want to add a local Monero node into the mix too. I think I’m almost there about 70% done. ALSO… have already started learning the protocol though<clipped message>

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> , once I’m fully comfortable with it, I will open a CCS to do a full node mobile implementation as I also think this will be very nice for the end user but this will only be available on Android mobiles devices not iOS, it’s impossible unless you jail break, there is no way to keep your trades online in the background unfortunately.

<b​asses:matrix.org> uses CoinGecko docs.featherwallet.org/guides/websocket

full haveno node, right?

(dont need to have local monero node)

@kewbit

<k​evino:tchncs.de> running bsx !!

<k​evino:tchncs.de> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…1b0126e10f3366351841517194194714624

<k​evino:tchncs.de> running basic swap dex !

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> This looks way better than Haveno

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> It’s it actually working?

<k​evino:tchncs.de> yes , done several tradea

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Arbitrators do but nah I’m not going to include it anymore because someone is making a daemon manager which is a seperate tool and it looks really good

<k​evino:tchncs.de> its super easy to trade too 😅.

<k​evino:tchncs.de> i mean the whole process takes less time

<c​rz:matrix.org> :D

<c​rz:matrix.org> Cool you are using BSX! :)

<c​rz:matrix.org> Pushing some nice updates soon (BSX) :)

<k​evino:tchncs.de> thanks for working on it :D

<k​evino:tchncs.de> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…6055a8801bc6e6c51841522026011951104

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Wow wtf do we need haveno for then, does implement trades for that?

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Only to certain coins ?

<k​evino:tchncs.de> haveno for fiat to crypto

<k​evino:tchncs.de> fiat can't do atomic swaps , sorry :D

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Ahh I see swaps don’t do fiat

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Ah ok so still has its place in the market

<k​evino:tchncs.de> yeah it will have much bigger role , as it will help people onramp/offramp crypto

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> What’s it written in?

<c​rz:matrix.org> Basic

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Python and electrum?

<c​rz:matrix.org> Basic :p

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Visual Basic 😂

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Lolwut

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> i made a calculator in visual basic once, .net framework IIRC

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> i thought bsx was python?

<c​rz:matrix.org> Its python, was just joking :), started with coding back in the days in basic

<d​ezinfik:matrix.org> kewbit: where can i download public build for testing ?

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> I’m sorry but I am not allowed

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Not until the source code is prepared to be released with it

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Which I am prioritising

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> It’s the AGPLv3 licencing rules

<b​asses:matrix.org> great choice

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> What do you mean?

<b​asses:matrix.org> better than GPL, hurts big tech

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> I didn’t really have a choice tbh

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Technically I did but I didn’t care to argue it

<b​asses:matrix.org> this what I would choose if it is a niche project, MIT if it is some SaaS or need contributions etc

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> One of the plugins for it is MIT

<3​21bob321:monero.social> For ccs only needs to be

<3​21bob321:monero.social> All work must be licensed permissively at all stages of the proposal. There is no time where your work can be licensed under a restrictive license (even as you're working on it). Your proposal will be terminated if this is not remedied

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> I really wanted to licence it with this by Monerobull wouldn’t let me github.com/supertunaman/cdl

Oh no, not those matrix idiots again

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> You can actually dual licence AGPLv3 with Chicken Dance License it looks like

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> According to ChatGPT

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Perfect

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> I wonder if that means everyone who uses the software has to do the chicken dance or if the developer how implements it does

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> I wonder if that means everyone who uses the software has to do the chicken dance or if the developer who implements it does

kewbit, no matter what your license says, you can't have my firstborn child

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> It did cross my mind

that CDL could be dangerous if you're in mexico.

(sorry, obscure Arrested Development reference)

I should've said: your development could be arrested in you comply to that cdl in Mexico

(sorry again)

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Sorry I’m not very good at jokes although I would tell you a joke about UDP packet, but you might not get it.

im very technical, i bet i will get it, try me.

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> You want me to explain my joke?

technically, yes

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> No

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Handshaking

<3​21bob321:monero.social> What does tcp do that udp doesnt

calm down 321bob321, it's not that scary a protocol

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Okay so basically TCP uses retransmission and flow control which guarantees delivery

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Thats the answer to the joke

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> 0x6A6F6B65 is technically the answer

<3​21bob321:monero.social> This was the joke

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> I’m glad someone spotted it

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Haha

i got the joke. did you get that i got the joke?

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Nope

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> How do you prove you got the joke now though?

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Poj

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Proof of Jokism

PoLoL

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> A new mechanism for generating wallet addresses, your mnemonic must be funny

i almost always chuckle at wownero seeds...

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> A new mechanism for generating wallet addresses, your mnemonic seed must be funny

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Why’s that?

they just picked funny seed word lists. i wonder if their non-english counterparts got such love...

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Is there a level of funny to the poj?

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> I have my 36 core PC running all day generating vanity Xmr and onion addresses lol

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> I managed to get 11 character word

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Couldn’t believe it

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Let me find

poj difficulty must adjust to network levels

i remember seeing vanity protocols with trustless "pooled mining" of addresses where you could pay coin X for someone to mine on vanity addresses from which they couldn't derive private keys. never looked into if the claim was actually legit tho

as in, that they couldn't derive the private key

not sure if it was github.com/msinkec/scrypt-vanitysearch specifically

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Interesting, I literally had no idea that was possible

i remember seeing a protocol for btc, it would be cool if such a trustless setup were possible for xmr. but then i wonder about the ... eh, efficacy, of vanity addresses. i would usually recommend generating new subaddresses for every tx aye?

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Remember that time Facebook got facebookcorewwwi.onion

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> They must have found a bug in the algorithm or something never looked into it

bet they could get better with some of that sweet sweet ai inference pipeline

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> To deep

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> AI? In the contact of math

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> I played a bit with pytorch

ive just used oldschool tensorflow.

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> To try to predict sports games based on their previous results and the players and a bunch of other dimensions, spent agents on it and it gave be about 2% edge

my conspiracy theory is that ai server farms are slumbering giants waiting to be unleashed upon hashrates across crypto

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Sadly they are not predicable

yea i did similar to train a trading bot on historical information. fun project, idk if they beat hodl tho

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Just use the golden ratio bro

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> And the Fibonacci sequence combined

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> So did I, it’s lost me $200 and I never used it again

🤯🫨🫨

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Is cypherstack/tor stable yet?

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> sneurlax

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Tor project as going ham on Arti right now in their Matrix chat, excited for it

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Tor project are going ham on Arti right now in their Matrix chat, excited for it

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> It was about damn time. I tested the first alpha version and it was already much faster than C tor somehow

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> and also le memory safety

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> You can proxy onion services through the socks5 now