<e​longated:matrix.org> We are getting rust

<e​longated:matrix.org> We are getting rust and young once don’t really care about privacy 😅 when they mature they look for privacy

<a​way-abbott:matrix.org> 早安家族

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<a​way-abbott:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/nKVCJDHegSptFXdkvMKeRemm

<a​way-abbott:matrix.org> files.catbox.moe/2io7qz.mp4

<e​longated:matrix.org> Wtf

<j​osefbeziehung67:matrix.org> Wtf

<j​osefbeziehung67:matrix.org> Fucking shit

<a​way-abbott:matrix.org> cute right?

<a​way-abbott:matrix.org> mmm 😋

<e​longated:matrix.org> 儿童兵研究项目: go away

<j​osefbeziehung67:matrix.org> Delete that!!

<e​longated:matrix.org> /report

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<a​way-abbott:matrix.org> 21.mp4

<a​way-abbott:matrix.org> kek

<j​osefbeziehung67:matrix.org> You

<a​way-abbott:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/FoXJkiUmzOiSVGYhWGFFfCZo

<j​osefbeziehung67:matrix.org> /report

<e​longated:matrix.org> plowsof:

<a​way-abbott:matrix.org> 😍

<a​way-abbott:matrix.org> dont worry guys. child porn is ok in china

<e​longated:matrix.org> Go to china

<l​ucidlynx:envs.net> Fuck outta here with this shit

<j​osefbeziehung67:matrix.org> Retard

<a​way-abbott:matrix.org> cope

<a​way-abbott:matrix.org> china wins again

<a​way-abbott:matrix.org> 🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳

<a​way-abbott:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/dzJCZswKoVhYiHilzBCOkaEc

<e​longated:matrix.org> Retard

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<a​way-abbott:matrix.org> 26.gif

<a​way-abbott:matrix.org> 🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳

<r​oot:kimapr.net> oh great another matrix moment

<a​way-abbott:matrix.org> matthew approves

<j​osefbeziehung67:matrix.org> Now we have this shit on our phones.. Fucking retard

<a​way-abbott:matrix.org> he sent me these you know

<a​way-abbott:matrix.org> hahaha

<a​way-abbott:matrix.org> cry

<a​way-abbott:matrix.org> westoid

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<a​way-abbott:matrix.org> 26.gif

<j​osefbeziehung67:matrix.org> Click on the profile of him and report him

<a​way-abbott:matrix.org> 🤣🤣🤣

<a​way-abbott:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/YjxAMJfxSBBCXleAQblNOBQM

<a​way-abbott:matrix.org> i groomed her myself

<a​way-abbott:matrix.org> she was very fuckable

<j​osefbeziehung67:matrix.org> Go to hell

<a​way-abbott:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/udPFbktTYlfkVVQnhNzUIsPQ

<a​way-abbott:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/WNXoDXrApYDLsAgTsitEYfcK

<a​way-abbott:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/pMierNCYWSyeKGltDMVuhCBM

<a​way-abbott:matrix.org> thoughts?

<r​oot:kimapr.net> I'm sending an email to abuse⊙mo

<a​way-abbott:matrix.org> like i give a shit

<a​way-abbott:matrix.org> here in china, we are ok

<a​way-abbott:matrix.org> they wont care

<j​osefbeziehung67:matrix.org> You are not in china

<a​way-abbott:matrix.org> proof?

<a​way-abbott:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/XZxCSQYjFuzOzDuNddvRFBiU

<a​way-abbott:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/hZXFihIPHceEmQduUetcSgyI

<j​osefbeziehung67:matrix.org> Proof that you are in china

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<a​way-abbott:matrix.org> 26.gif

<j​osefbeziehung67:matrix.org> Where is the admin of the group even

<a​way-abbott:matrix.org> i killed him

<a​way-abbott:matrix.org> and ate him

<j​osefbeziehung67:matrix.org> /report

<a​way-abbott:matrix.org> kek

<a​way-abbott:matrix.org> good luck

<a​way-abbott:matrix.org> files.catbox.moe/2io7qz.mp4 this is very good btw you should all watch

<a​way-abbott:matrix.org> she is very cute

<a​way-abbott:matrix.org> i love little girl piss

<j​osefbeziehung67:matrix.org> no chinese writes 'kek'... You are likely not from china

<a​way-abbott:matrix.org> be surprised

<a​way-abbott:matrix.org> i do it

<a​way-abbott:matrix.org> notice how the girls is happy ?

<a​way-abbott:matrix.org> she likes it

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<a​way-abbott:matrix.org> 26.gif

<r​oot:kimapr.net> a chinese 4channer would, i think. Btw you can click "ignore" on a user's profile to no longer see their messages.

<r​oot:kimapr.net> doesn't always work reliably though

<a​way-abbott:matrix.org> wont remove it

<a​way-abbott:matrix.org> from phone

<a​way-abbott:matrix.org> and pc

<j​osefbeziehung67:matrix.org> Ok

<a​way-abbott:matrix.org> police will trouble you

<j​osefbeziehung67:matrix.org> Good Now i dont see his messages anymore

<a​way-abbott:matrix.org> i will police you

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<a​way-abbott:matrix.org> 26.gif

<a​way-abbott:matrix.org> !echo files.catbox.moe/2io7qz.mp4

<e​cho:maunium.net> files.catbox.moe/2io7qz.mp4

<i​ty:itycodes.org> Matrix moment

<r​oot:kimapr.net> Yeah. never seen this kind of thing happen on any other platform

<i​ty:itycodes.org> It's the funniest when it happens right in #office and they just have nobody online for hours so it's filled with CP so bad that the room state splits. *everything's okay tho! We have authenticated media now! It isn't our problem anymore!*

<i​ty:itycodes.org> Honestly, ACL matrix.org

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> [@monerobull:matrix.org](https://matrix.to/#/@monerobull:matrix.org)

<i​ty:itycodes.org> They can't moderate their shit

<i​ty:itycodes.org> Or at least ban matrix.org accs from posting media

<i​ty:itycodes.org> Some rooms already do that

<i​ty:itycodes.org> That'd eliminate 95% of the spam

<i​ty:itycodes.org> Not even joking, it's non-morg 1 in 20 accs

<i​ty:itycodes.org> /me *sighs*

<i​ty:itycodes.org> No wonder the morg admins are so grumpy all the time

<i​ty:itycodes.org> Reminder to y'all here who doesn't have media cache cleaning on, it's off by default in Synapse

<3​21bob321:monero.social> We are inclusive

<i​ty:itycodes.org> ?

<3​21bob321:monero.social> To spam

<i​ty:itycodes.org> Ah haha

<r​oot:kimapr.net> That's a thing?

<r​oot:kimapr.net> i was thinking of just nuking the remote_content directory and stuff after receiving shit but i worry about breaking this stupid pythonic software

<i​ty:itycodes.org> It should be okay to just nuke it

<l​oeasy6:matrix.org> Hi

<i​ty:itycodes.org> There's also browser caches

<i​ty:itycodes.org> And clients have their own media cache

<i​ty:itycodes.org> And precisely this crap is why we want delete tokens.

<i​ty:itycodes.org> So you can click one button and it'll delete all media that was sent then deleted in a room in the past 24-48 hours from all your devices

<i​ty:itycodes.org> And homeserver if you are on an admin acc

<m​ilenadang93880_twitter:gitter.im> # 🔥🔥🔥SWEET VIDEOS CUM PUSSY ASS MOUTH FOR YOUNG GIRLS AND SISTERS🔥🔥🔥 familysexygames.tumblr.com ❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥

<f​ijxu:nadeko.net> lol

<e​rupt9776:matrix.org> Why Kovri wasn't implemented on Monero?

<k​8ter66:matrix.org> or just let media loading be optional

<k​8ter66:matrix.org> Such as what Telegram does.

<k​8ter66:matrix.org> Then it never even reaches me to begin with. Rather than seeing vile content and having to report it.

<k​8ter66:matrix.org> > <@ity:itycodes.org> And precisely this crap is why we want delete tokens.

<k​8ter66:matrix.org> Or just let media loading be optional?

<k​8ter66:matrix.org> xmrscott: plowsof @plowsof:matrix.org:

<k​8ter66:matrix.org> Delightful. It appears my ping did work, I was afraid it wouldn't.

<g​ingeropolous:monero.social> wow ofrnxmr . i'll do a writeup someday from what i remember regarding when it was pointing to what. but it wasn't what you described

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Will it contradict the other statements youve made?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Like "i pointed to xmr-tw in 2020" when clearly you pointed to rupee in 2018 and 2024

<g​ingeropolous:monero.social> and if you have those dns records i'd love to see em because i can't find any historical records on afraid.org . though i haven't tried googling "dns historical records"

<g​ingeropolous:monero.social> well i just did and theres some service that i gotta pay for

<g​ingeropolous:monero.social> was rupee one of the trusted members at the time?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I posted them above iirc

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> He was the ip that you deleted that you refused to share

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> And you pointed to multiple of his as early ad 2018 and as late as 2024, yes

<g​ingeropolous:monero.social> im sorry man. i shoulda took better notes. it would point at different nodes at different times. a fuckit, lets go by memory. OK, first when I made my wonderful bash script i requested some volunteers from monero irc channels. ... looks like it was 2016: github.com/Gingeropolous/moneriote

<g​ingeropolous:monero.social> well im glad he stepped forward.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> He didnt

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Stepped forward? you added them and he "lost access" soon after

<g​ingeropolous:monero.social> well he didn't tell me he lost access

<g​ingeropolous:monero.social> what was i supposed to be doing? pinging everyone every week and going "hey these nodes, you still run them?" every day?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> You believe he did? Lol the nodes were running for years and he controlled a large % of publoc rpc nodes

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> You pointed at spy nodes for 6 yrs

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> everyday? Not even once a year bro, cmon now

<g​ingeropolous:monero.social> well exactly, thats why i stopped doing that whole thing

<k​8ter66:matrix.org> Bickering about nonsense is counterproductive.

<3​21bob321:monero.social> ^ non sense

<g​ingeropolous:monero.social> im sorry man. now we just gotta end remote nodes

<g​ingeropolous:monero.social> public remote nodes, for the pedandtic

<g​ingeropolous:monero.social> semantic?

<g​ingeropolous:monero.social> i don't know what kind of plausible story you want man

<g​ingeropolous:monero.social> this shit started in 2016 when i hacked together bash scripts

<g​ingeropolous:monero.social> then some dude made a fork py-moneriote that did stuff with dns, so i pointed it to that

<g​ingeropolous:monero.social> then that was fine for a while, but then public nodes started to get infiltrated or whatever, so in a rush i switched from the aggregator to a bunch of ppl in an irc channel at the moment that volunteered their nodes to add to the A record

<g​ingeropolous:monero.social> ppl i thought were legit. i was wrong.

<g​ingeropolous:monero.social> actually there was that period where the community funded a high end dedicated server for a year

<g​ingeropolous:monero.social> then i think the a record just had 1 ip address on it

<g​ingeropolous:monero.social> or it mighta been another subdomain.

<g​ingeropolous:monero.social> but the moral of the story is there should be no public remote node network.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> virustotal.com/gui/domain/node.moneroworld.com/relations

<g​ingeropolous:monero.social> is that a plausible story sir ofrnxmr ?

<g​ingeropolous:monero.social> oh nice. thanks

<n​ot_a_money_printer:matrix.org> Should we just force the monero gui to use only onion remote node by default? Also force tor traffic for sync blockchain

<3​21bob321:monero.social> cant do last

<n​ot_a_money_printer:matrix.org> Why not

<n​ot_a_money_printer:matrix.org> monero gui works fine under whonix

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> Noones.com did turn on the Monero in P2P trades for all countries I think

<b​laster2024:matrix.org> I want to swap them

<b​laster2024:matrix.org> Tu veux du cash ou tu veux du bitcoin

<b​laster2024:matrix.org> Do you want cash or do you want bitcoin?

<p​rivacyx:monero.social> Has anyone seen this shit: github.com/supertestnet/examiner

<p​rivacyx:monero.social> Can wait for FCMP++

<p​rivacyx:monero.social> Cant wait for FCMP++

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> of course

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> its just a block explorer

<3​21bob321:monero.social> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…ero.social/sAXbKaEWjCGDOyoHemwQWkHe

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Anyone have the same issue stack wallwt with blocks outside boundary ?

<s​ervers.guru:matrix.servers.guru> Damn monero is falling hard 🥲 RIP my balance sheet.

<m​ark:chat.nicecrew.digital> Oh boy, I knew I should've sold at 230, the daily transactions haven't gone up so the price increase was obviously just speculation that would've come down eventually.

<m​ark:chat.nicecrew.digital> I'd say that at least I'll learn from my mistakes but I know I'll make the same mistake next time too.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> you guys arent bullish enough

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i just bought more

<s​ervers.guru:matrix.servers.guru> A bit different situation I can't wait forever for price to come back up I have bills to pay unfortunately

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/poyPwXeCkGNqQbkaUANIeDzi

<s​ervers.guru:matrix.servers.guru> So I'll likely have to sell at a loss

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> this doesnt just happen on accident

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> yeah for you its bad

<m​ark:chat.nicecrew.digital> On what exchange was it?

<l​ordx3nu:matrix.org> A....block explorer? Lol

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> tradeogre

<s​ervers.guru:matrix.servers.guru> Sp500 is down 5% following the change in tax cut 2025, crypto always follow sp500 x1000

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> ffs

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i JUST shifted from berkshire to sp500 hours before the downturn

<s​ervers.guru:matrix.servers.guru> Still insane run this year so it's fine. You'll make it back.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i have a time limit on monero though

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i need absolute max value at serai genesis

<s​ervers.guru:matrix.servers.guru> Monero will come back at some point. It's less correlated than the other altcoins 🤞

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i hope so

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> actually

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i dont really lose anything as long as btc-xmr ratio stays

<s​ervers.guru:matrix.servers.guru> But like 80% of our payments are monero and bitcoin lol. So not a great day 🤣

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> btw

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/iLuCcJazhsNdTTdYZUbhQmex

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> gate is seemingly preparing to de-list

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> really makes you think

<s​ervers.guru:matrix.servers.guru> Where?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> how do they have the MOST volume out of ALL monero exchanges

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> when you cant even search the pair anymore

<s​ervers.guru:matrix.servers.guru> Kraken must have the most volume no?

<s​ervers.guru:matrix.servers.guru> Are you logged in on gate.io?

<m​onerobull:monero.social> no

<s​ervers.guru:matrix.servers.guru> I noticed last time that I also couldn't find the monero pair on kraken while not being logged in.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> you can find it via the link

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> gate.io/trade/XMR_USDT

<s​ervers.guru:matrix.servers.guru> But now it is back so that was weird.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> but they recently removed it from search

<m​ark:chat.nicecrew.digital> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…ew.digital/XzqLgrgTOsJwdAxwhabxFSBv

<m​ark:chat.nicecrew.digital> Kraken doesn't have that much volume

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> cuz gate's volume is a lie

<s​ervers.guru:matrix.servers.guru> Isn't it a bigger exchange than gate. Io?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> ^

<s​ervers.guru:matrix.servers.guru> > <@mark:chat.nicecrew.digital> Kraken doesn't have that much volume

<s​ervers.guru:matrix.servers.guru> Isn't it a bigger exchange than gate.io ?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/WYWSJQCnIOWYeMMTnLnDHOfw

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

<s​ervers.guru:matrix.servers.guru> Perpetuals though.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> WHY WOULD YOU ALLOW LENDING

<s​ervers.guru:matrix.servers.guru> But yeah not great.

What is gate io and who even used it

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> WHEN YOU DELIST EVERYTHING ELSE

<s​ervers.guru:matrix.servers.guru> Do they still list in EU?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

<s​ervers.guru:matrix.servers.guru> Maybe that is jsut them being slow to adopt EU regulations.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Gate bots use gate

<s​ervers.guru:matrix.servers.guru> It should be delisted everywhere in EU.

<s​ervers.guru:matrix.servers.guru> But not sure what the deadline is.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> EEA, not EU

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> it is 1 week from now

<s​ervers.guru:matrix.servers.guru> Especially with the new travel rule that will be implemented.

<s​ervers.guru:matrix.servers.guru> All VASP and exchange need to pin transaction with information

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> its crazy how much data they want

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> banks are unironically 100 times as private as buying crypto

<s​ervers.guru:matrix.servers.guru> 21analytics.ch/travel-rule-regulati…ean-union-eu-travel-rule-regulation

<s​ervers.guru:matrix.servers.guru> That is 100% incompatible with Monero.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/hvMQGBAylbYgkKKBboRbVLYj

<s​ervers.guru:matrix.servers.guru> Not anymore though. That changed a lot as well. Except if you go to Seychelles or something. But good luck integrating with the rest of the banking world.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> yeah youre right

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> oh well

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> guess we are going back to 150€

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> it doesnt hurt as much when you tell yourself it was never real

<s​ervers.guru:matrix.servers.guru> Hahaha

<s​ervers.guru:matrix.servers.guru> 1 xmr = 1 xmr

<s​ervers.guru:matrix.servers.guru> Wish I offramped yesterday

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> “Nobody knows if a stock is going to go up, down, sideways or in fucking circles, least of all stockbrokers, right? It’s all a fugayzi, you know what a fugayzi is?”

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> “Fugayzi. It’s fake.”

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> "Fugayzi, fugazi. It's a whazy. It's a woozie. It's fairy dust. It doesn't exist. It's never landed. It is no matter. It's not on the elemental chart. It's not fucking real.”

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> gate dot io uses an integrated address for deposits [or used to]. a few ppl sent funds to the base address by accident [possible gui bug] and their support kept brushing them off for months. cant find the reddit threads atm but their support would make me consider leaving a stern trustpilot review!

<s​ervers.guru:matrix.servers.guru> Probably would be removed.

<s​ervers.guru:matrix.servers.guru> F*ing trustpilot. 50% of the reviews we get are removed when the next one come.

<s​ervers.guru:matrix.servers.guru> Not even exaggerating.

<s​ervers.guru:matrix.servers.guru> And we even pay them for the privilege.

<m​onerobull:monero.social> i made a very positive servers.guru review and it got removed

<s​ervers.guru:matrix.servers.guru> Did they even ask you to verify it or anything?

<s​ervers.guru:matrix.servers.guru> I understand that people don't want to verify review due to privacy concern. But it seems more like straight deletion.

<s​ervers.guru:matrix.servers.guru> I sent them a salty email yesterday when it happened again I'll probably get a generic answer in about 10 days

<s​ervers.guru:matrix.servers.guru> Nevermind we pay 250$ a month for 0 support.

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Monero etf ?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Why

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Sounds obviously scammy

<s​ervers.guru:matrix.servers.guru> Cause we had the spammer asshole writing tons of fake reviews and we needed a faster way to contact them ( that was a lie) and we posted a picture of the star rating and they contacted us for brand misuse ( you need to pay to show that) and threaten us to remove our trustpilot page.

<s​ervers.guru:matrix.servers.guru> So all in all we bit the bullet.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> 250/mth sounds like "obv were scamming u bro, thanks for the free money, sucker"

<s​ervers.guru:matrix.servers.guru> Thing is the stars showing especially in crypto where it's full of scammer is very good psychologically for customer.

<s​ervers.guru:matrix.servers.guru> Also we had to pay for 6 months straight so here is that.

<s​ervers.guru:matrix.servers.guru> But yeah that's definitely racket and they know it and abuse it.

<s​ervers.guru:matrix.servers.guru> But you can't really operate without trustpilot at least in the hosting business unfortunately.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Ive never look at TP

<s​ervers.guru:matrix.servers.guru> I wish everyone was like you ;)

<3​21bob321:monero.social> I go by community usage

<s​ervers.guru:matrix.servers.guru> Mind you that's the cheapest plan lol

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Not google reviews

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Oh, thats the prob

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> You need a better plan

<s​ervers.guru:matrix.servers.guru> Next is like 600 or 1k

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Have you tried upgrading to theft-pro?

<s​ervers.guru:matrix.servers.guru> I just pull my pants down.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I only do that for kyc

<s​ervers.guru:matrix.servers.guru> "know your cock"

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/kwgPSfvSeGbmBsyGVjBkGjVu

<n​ot_a_money_printer:matrix.org> That hurts

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> all the big sell orders are at 230

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> if nobody is willing to sell for less than that, that is the price lol

<p​rivacyx:monero.social> Now is good time buy xmr

<p​rivacyx:monero.social> I doubt its going fall further than what its right now $170 usd

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> As long as there are perps there will liquidations

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> why did no one fucking bought my XMR when I selled below the price holy shit

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i am of firm believe that serai will set the definitive monero price once live

<p​rivacyx:monero.social> Most cyrptocoins have dropped in pricd by an average today of 15%

<p​rivacyx:monero.social> Most cyrptocoins have dropped in price by an average today of 15%

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> ogre is actually a bit fake

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> well not really but there is massive liquidity off the books

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> try placing a fat order a couple dollars above market and a bot will insta-fill it

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> i wont sell 2 under 220 soooooooooooo

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> 2 u*

<s​ervers.guru:matrix.servers.guru> I can sell for 210 :p

<s​ervers.guru:matrix.servers.guru> ( that's a joke IRS I now I cannot sell p2p)

<p​rivacyx:monero.social> Im maxed out i wish i could buy more xmr. I bought a bunch before the price went by about a week. I normally dont buy i just mine the hell out of monero but my solar panels needed repairs so mining went on pause for couple months

<s​ervers.guru:matrix.servers.guru> ( that's a joke IRS I know I cannot sell p2p)

<p​rivacyx:monero.social> > <@ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> i wont sell 2 under 220 soooooooooooo

<p​rivacyx:monero.social> Im maxed out i wish i could buy more xmr. I bought a bunch before the price went up by about a week. I normally dont buy i just mine the hell out of monero but my solar panels needed repairs so mining went on pause for couple months

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Its not selling tho. Youre just buying 220 usd

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> 210*

<s​ervers.guru:matrix.servers.guru> You found the loophole

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> H&R Block Jannies Seething.png

<b​asses:matrix.org> on sale

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Did i receive any cryptocurrency? No. My sockpuppet may have, idk

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> wheres juliu

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Cryptocurrency isnt even real bro

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Irs needs a lesson in P vs NP

<s​ervers.guru:matrix.servers.guru> I don't even think IRS would be the probably but for sure one of the 3 letter agency lurking in this sub.

<s​ervers.guru:matrix.servers.guru> I don't even think IRS would be the problem but for sure one of the 3 letter agency lurking in this sub. Or just gov in general.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> hilarious how someone selling 3 XMR on ogre dumps price by 5$

<s​ervers.guru:matrix.servers.guru> 30% of ogre customers.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i listen to this whenever the price dumps youtube.com/watch?v=JoI7MLxGRjQ

<b​asses:matrix.org> old.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/1hgz0qk/mulligansecurity_opening

<b​asses:matrix.org> sounds like a scam

<b​asses:matrix.org> what are their creds? no public facing website with all their research

<b​asses:matrix.org> also OPSEC consulting? lmao wtf is that

<b​asses:matrix.org> OPSEC consulting undermines your OPSEC

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> You need muh OPSEC expert to understand the benefits of your thread model and, optimize your producitivty and security in the digital world with our all-in cloud OPSEC solution 👍️👍️👍️👍️👍️💯💯💯💯💯

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/TiiEsOuLLgZoxaLIYJLHqfKA

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> look at this

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> +2000 XMR on the books but what, 40 all the way up to 200?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> i can't

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> nvm i can

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> lmfao

<b​asses:matrix.org> sign me up

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> a <del>federal agent</del> developer will contact you very soon at your location

<b​asses:matrix.org> I only accept backdoored Tox chat

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> and I only accept racist/bigot/*phobic simpleX chat

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> We're not the same

<b​asses:matrix.org> nazi and terrorist platforms

<b​asses:matrix.org> nazi and terrorist platform

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> i can unironically believe this

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> i mean. simpleX founder clearly stated nazi were welcome so

<b​asses:matrix.org> actually the opposite, played stupid on Wired article

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> oh

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Ah yeah he gave customer robot response: arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/10…d-simplex-chat-app-bail-on-telegram

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> > “SimpleX is a communication network rather than a service or a platform where users can host their own servers, like in OpenWeb, so we were not aware that extremists have been using it,” says Poberezkin. “We never designed groups to be usable for more than 50 users and we’ve been really surprised to see them growing to the current sizes despite limited usability and perf<clipped message>

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> ormance. We do not think it is technically possible to create a social network of a meaningful size in the SimpleX network.”

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Don't care their CEO is a conspiracist piece of shit

<b​asses:matrix.org> if they are willing to stop expanding their network and chat capabilities to hinder le terrors then they are stupid

<m​etrics:unredacted.org> What is wrong with Simplex?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i loved when wired called simplex the nazi platform and then wrote an article about how important encrypted chat apps like signal are

<b​asses:matrix.org> but I'm sure they just said that to stay away from glowies radar

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> *bipolarity*

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> oh

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> _bipolar_

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> its better

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/nTlTVuxzkvIWPFXdFbtRviDK

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> i can't see

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> fuck matrix

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> nvm

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> .@WIRED

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> recommends Signal and WhatsApp to break immigration law.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Just recently Wired criticized SimpleX Chat and privacy, because it may be used by "nazis" – a word Democrats use for political opponents, as we saw during the US president election.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> by simplex

<b​asses:matrix.org> nothing, just get bad PR by mainstream media

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Being a neutral company 101

<m​etrics:unredacted.org> They make misinformation as usually.

<b​asses:matrix.org> I mean they hired someone that most likey a lefty, Esra'a al Shafei who worked at Wikimedia Foundation, Access Now and Tor

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> You guys remember 10 years ago when Tor was being seen as something used by dark market criminals and hackers, impossible to access or some shit

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> *Le deep web*

<b​asses:matrix.org> Tor has been always easy to access thx to Tor browser, unlike i2p which takes several mins just to start surfing

<m​etrics:unredacted.org> invizible.net/en

<b​asses:matrix.org> Desktop

<b​asses:matrix.org> talking about desktops

<m​etrics:unredacted.org> QubesOS 🤍

<k​8ter66:matrix.org> one of the best apps for android. any time im on my desktop im always sad theres no invizible 😄

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Takes like 15 seconds on repeat runs

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I can't use i2p because I don't have inbounds

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Tor doesnt run relays by default, it just uses other ppls. Like using a remote node, of course its a bit faster

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> U sure? Ive used it behind a firewall

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> It's been two years I've been trying

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Try harder!

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Last time was funny tho (Segmentation fault)

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Someone else said the same recently (seg fault) with the repository version

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Try building from src or using their "official" repos

bros

is it just me or is monerod extremely broken

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Just you

90% of operations fail with some RPC error lmao

wallet cli constantly loses its connection while trying to refresh

prune_blockchain fails every time i try it

Did you, by any chance, self-compile on Debian?

no i'm on macOS, installed via homebrew

I had such mysterious errors when I did that. I think with SSL offer it's better. Never had problems with the official binaries, strangely.

*SSL off

is that a build time thing

mine links openssl but idk if it's actually using it

I guess so. Never got to the bottom of it, tried to debug in vain

it seemed to be fine before i upgraded it

Yes, it supports SLL connections between wallet and daemon, but you can forbid it on both sides if I remember correctly

monerobull on ogre be a maker not a taker

<m​onerobull:monero.social> i am too impatient

<m​onerobull:monero.social> i rather waste $300 than haven a limit order up for more than 10 minutes

kids these days :D

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> someones got to buy above market for the price to go up anyways 🤷

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> you mean, buy at ask price

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Try #959864: Still don't work. Warn everywhere, Can't connect to privacyguides.i2p

<m​onero.arbo:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/RndUZyJSFeyeoWnjHFhLkagS

<m​onero.arbo:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/XFOdRtRPqpKsGmaXJlSqzvkN

<m​onero.arbo:matrix.org> vik (Cake): It seems like swap rates in Cake are much worse than if you use Trocador directly, even though Cake uses Trocador. What's up with that?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Cake wallet fees

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> convenience fee

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> probably

<m​onero.arbo:matrix.org> Cake has said in the past they don't take extra fees from in-app swaps, is why I'm asking

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> they have said that?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> never heard of that. how would they earn money otherwise?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i thought its common knowledge that they do take like 2.5%

<m​onero.arbo:matrix.org> It would take me awhile to find it but yes I'm sure I've read that on reddit

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> you might remember some promo event where they dont take any fees for a while

is it normal for the last few % of the blockchain to take way longer to process

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Yeu

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> constxd yes its because everything up to the last few % were downloaded and verified through an hash list. The last % however don't have that so your node is fully verifying blocks and transactions, therefore taking longer

<m​onero.arbo:matrix.org> these strongly imply no extra fees are being taken by cake:

<m​onero.arbo:matrix.org> reddit.com/r/darknet/comments/1d3x7we/damn_fees/l6euiu7

<m​onero.arbo:matrix.org> reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/17six8…o_to_another_cryptocurrency/k8vjhj7

<m​onero.arbo:matrix.org> the actual issue appears to be that the trocador API is broken. If I disable the other swap providers except for trocador, Cake actually fails to fetch an exchange rate at all

<m​onero.arbo:matrix.org> I suspect based on the comments I've seen on reddit from people getting horrible rates using Cake, that Trocador hasn't been working for awhile

<m​onero.arbo:matrix.org> ah well, just kidding Ig. I got it to give me a rate with trocador being the only exchange enabled and the rate is still about 2.5% worse than using trocador directly

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Its the same for every exchange last i checked

<m​onero.arbo:matrix.org> that makes sense was just comparing that one specifically because it tends to have the best rates, itself being a meta-exchange of sorts

"Your most recent share indicates are currently running P2Pool v4.1. It is recommended to upgrade." how do i upgrage :P

<m​onero.arbo:matrix.org> anyway, some clarification on the point from official Cake people would be nice because frankly 2.5% is a pretty big fee for not really doing anything, like I understand a 1-2% fee from exchanges who are actually providing the liquidity, but to take another 2.5% literally just for being a middle-man is a bit much

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> clarity? the rate is hidden in a secret

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> They can change it whenever they want and most wallet providers do the same

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> as well as the swapper themselves.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Ive never seen "0.5%" actually = 0.5%

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Usually closer to 1-2% even directly from the websits that say 0.5-1%. It ultimately depends on their view of the fiat rate

<e​rupt9776:matrix.org> Guys?

<e​rupt9776:matrix.org> Why Kovri wasn't implemented on Monero?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> kovri is just temu i2p

<h​ardhatter:monero.social> Bruh

<e​rupt9776:matrix.org> Temu?

<e​rupt9776:matrix.org> What is that?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Yes

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> same as wish.com

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Wish.com? whats that?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> a CCP subsidized platform to fling garbage products at ultra cheap prices around the globe

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> oh. I see

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> aliexpress is still cheaper, shipping just takes longer

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> these platforms are great for some items and terrible for others

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> good example of a great item: rubber bands

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i orderd hundreds of those and they were for real 7x cheaper than on amazon

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I buy lingerie from aliexpress

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> if its one-time-use that is actually not terrible

<h​ardhatter:monero.social> Anyone here use uniswapx before?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> not that but CoW swpa

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Does it have xmr?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> not that but CoW swap

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> nope

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> its EVM coincidence of wants trading

<h​ardhatter:monero.social> nope but it’s the lowest fee DEX available rn, complete game changer. Unfortunately it’s works on the ethereum chain

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Right. My point was dontasktoask.com and that the "yes" answer leads down a rabbit hole if offtopic

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Of*

<h​ardhatter:monero.social> It’s cheaper than trading on any CEX within the ethereum chain

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> has nothing to do with xmr

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> if you are interested in this

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> chainflip.io uses similar coincidence of wants tech

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> they teased monero support but wont actually do it

<h​ardhatter:monero.social> I brought it up cause it’s a DEX and idk thought it might start an interesting conversation related to xmr

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> EVM DEX is very different from crosschain dex

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> monero is only interested in cross chain dex

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> and real ones, not the ones that are "cRoSs cHaiN" and then look like this:

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/yasYwVkDIbbCgDzGpuiHmKET

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> aNy aSsEt oN aNY cHaiN

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/wPtyQwjJYeOHOTMzQjzddmbQ

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> looks inside, it's all EVM only

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Always has been

<h​ardhatter:monero.social> Well chainflip is still more expensive than uniswapx. Maybe by following uniswapx’s example you can get lower fees and use wraps of xmr and any other coin on other chains to trade at low cost and then exit with the costs you’d normally have only on the exiting transaction

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Psychoticbird, why are you copying me

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Talking to yourself again TrueBird ?

I always am.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> glad to hear

<h​ardhatter:monero.social> Somewhat like thorchain synths even though those aren’t the same thing in the way they are collateralized , except thorchain synth transactions are still expensive

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Serai?

<h​ardhatter:monero.social> Part of the reason uniswapx works is because on ethereum aggregating transactions into a single transaction dramatically reduces network fees as opposed to doing each transaction individually.

<h​ardhatter:monero.social> Then basically the aggregators get paid for completing the transactions at a competitive rate. You can also be your own aggregator and remove that part of the cost of the trade. Also I think uniswapx has the most liquidity of any other dex rn

<h​ardhatter:monero.social> Is serai’s “exchange fees” going to be cheaper than thorchain’s ?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> prob Depends on the cost of sri

Are we there yet?

<h​ardhatter:monero.social> If serai ends up being competitively cheap for exchange fees, thats great. It probably has a more reliable collateralization method if it’s like thorchain when compared to ethereum wrapped coins.

<h​ardhatter:monero.social> But if those fees are too high for your needs and you need high liquidity rn then you can probably use a combination of uniswapx for trading with wraps then use another dex to atomic swap into xmr. Xmr’s transaction fees are low so you just need a dex with enough liquidity and with low exchange fees.

<h​ardhatter:monero.social> Really these high percentage exchange fees are the problem. The relatively fixed transaction fees with respect to trade amounts on these networks aren’t a problem if you have large enough transactions

<h​ardhatter:monero.social> I think DEXs have the potential to kill CEXs if they’re objectively cheaper and have high liquidity

do DEXs do fiat? :)

by the time this damn chain is done processing the XMR i bought is going to be worthless

sad!

<h​ardhatter:monero.social> I mean I think potentially serai could have competitive exchange fees. Most of the other cross chain DEX’s exchange fees are high primarily due to choice rather than primarily because of the current market efficiency dependent the liquidity they have

<h​ardhatter:monero.social> But I have no idea what the exchange fees are gonna be on serai based on what I can see from what’s in its docs

<h​ardhatter:monero.social> I mean I think potentially serai could have competitive exchange fees. Most of the other cross chain DEX’s exchange fees are high primarily due to choice rather than primarily because of the current market efficiency dependent on the liquidity they have

<l​za_menace:monero.social> thend picth

<m​lopes:matrix.org> Is it a scam?

<m​lopes:matrix.org> haveno.exchange

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> no its the official website

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> haveno.com is the scam

Yeah, Reto is gone from haveno.com/networks

Error: refresh failed: no connection to daemon. Please make sure daemon is running.. Blocks received: 3828

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> #monero-support

<3​21bob321:monero.social> It's the OG

<m​lopes:matrix.org> They say:

<m​lopes:matrix.org> "built on monero"

<m​lopes:matrix.org> What does it mean?

<m​lopes:matrix.org> Like a Smart Contract?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> No

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Haveno is a fork of Bisq which was based on a specific token called BSQ. Haveno replaced Bitcoin and BSQ with XMR. This is the meaning of "built on monero"

<f​ede:xmr.mx> is tax declaration in the usa actually online?

<f​ede:xmr.mx> no having to fill tens and tens of paper forms? :o

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> youtube.com/watch?v=bkLqV8K4JFY

Is #monero-pools private? says I'm banned and never joined it as far as I remember

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Its k-lined

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> The room itself is k-lined

what did they say to piss off libera-NSA?

as2333, haha

<l​oeasy6:matrix.org> Hello

<l​oeasy6:matrix.org> I just forgot my sd card with all of my monero dev tools

<l​oeasy6:matrix.org> 😥

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Define "monero dev tools"

<l​oeasy6:matrix.org> Github repos and Development Envoriment

<l​oeasy6:matrix.org> And the bounty I was working on

if you use Github, repose are still there, right?

*repos

<l​oeasy6:matrix.org> Yes, Had some uncommited changes

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> git status

<l​oeasy6:matrix.org> On the sd card

<l​oeasy6:matrix.org> My computer doesn't have enough space

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> holy shit

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> sorry for your loss

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> also,

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> loeasy6needxmrtobuyanssd.com when ?

<l​oeasy6:matrix.org> Its fine, I got to wait two weeks to get it back

<l​oeasy6:matrix.org> Idk, Maybe for Christmas

I usually don't keep more than a few hours worth of uncommited changes. It's much safer to work in a temporary branch on Github and commit changes A LOT

<l​oeasy6:matrix.org> Ok

<l​oeasy6:matrix.org> I will try that

and then squash commits, and merge to the main branch

<l​oeasy6:matrix.org> Makes sense