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m-relay<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> bobboiplays pronouns are it/that
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m-relay<bobboiplays:matrix.org> yes
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m-relay<bobboiplays:matrix.org> its hr/him
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m-relay<bobboiplays:matrix.org> its he/him
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m-relay<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Yours are? I doubt it
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m-relay<bobboiplays:matrix.org> You doubt a biological male?
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m-relay<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> There are no biological males, you bigot
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m-relay<bobboiplays:matrix.org> tf you mean
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m-relay<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> You hurd me
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m-relay<bobboiplays:matrix.org> so the presence of a penis doesnt mean a man
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m-relay<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Correct
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m-relay<mark:chat.nicecrew.digital> When people talk about that kind of stuff I don't even know if they're ironic or not these days.
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m-relay<bobboiplays:matrix.org> Nah bro this idiot
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m-relay<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> i feel attacked
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m-relay<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Can you attack me in Monero Offtopic instead, before we get in trouble
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m-relay<bobboiplays:matrix.org> I feel like Im being lied to
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m-relay<bobboiplays:matrix.org> ok
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m-relay<i2p_node:glasgow.social> On getmonero.org/resources/moneropedia/remote-node.html i found only one explanation of why remote nodes is risky: "Node operators can link transactions to IP addresses", so, if i use i2p/tor for connecting to them , there is no other issues(Except i dont support decentralization on monero in such case)? Or remote node also can send me fake transaction, for example?
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m-relay<syntheticbird:monero.social> no there is also decoy selection issue. Your wallet needs information to properly select decoy and trust the node for that.
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m-relay<syntheticbird:monero.social> If you use a remote node you don't trust, it can give you intentionally wrong decoy informations for you to build a weak ring
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m-relay<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> If youre the only person using the node, its also easy for them to link your tx's together
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m-relay<syntheticbird:monero.social> in this case he would likely be using Tor
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m-relay<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> not link to your ip, but to link the tx to one another
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m-relay<i2p_node:glasgow.social> thank you
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m-relay<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> As follow up tx are likely to reference old tx as decoy
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m-relay<peachkelsy:matrix.org> Then use your own local node
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m-relay<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> That literally leaks all of your tx
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m-relay<peachkelsy:matrix.org> ??
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m-relay<peachkelsy:matrix.org> Only you can see your Transactions because you have the Private View Key
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m-relay<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Only you can see your tx info. Everyone can see your txid
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m-relay<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Info, meaning amount + sender + receiver
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m-relay<privacyx:monero.social> If your using own local node in either remote or locally no one should see your ip or tx
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m-relay<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> To be specitic: using your own node (out of the box) leaks your node as the origin of the transaction
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m-relay<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> This is assuming that you run the node from home and behind a router
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m-relay<privacyx:monero.social> But no ip or any other info
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m-relay<peachkelsy:matrix.org> And? Node is running over Tor
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m-relay<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Yes ip ...
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m-relay<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Your node is attached to an ip address ...
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m-relay<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Peers know who send them what
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m-relay<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Peers know who sent them what
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m-relay<peachkelsy:matrix.org> > <@ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> To be specitic: using your own node (out of the box) leaks your node as the origin of the transaction
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m-relay<peachkelsy:matrix.org> And? Node is running over Tor and the TXs can not be linked together because you get every 5-10 minutes an New IP
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m-relay<peachkelsy:matrix.org> Tor..
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m-relay<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> ^
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m-relay<syntheticbird:monero.social> ofrnxmr he is right
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m-relay<syntheticbird:monero.social> now bend
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m-relay<syntheticbird:monero.social> now bow to your king
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m-relay<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> I said "out of the box"
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m-relay<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> If you add --tx-proxy or --proxy, then the results change
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m-relay<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> But saying "just run your own node if you want privacy" is bad advice
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m-relay<syntheticbird:monero.social> i disagree
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m-relay<syntheticbird:monero.social> the decoy selection safety alone is already more important than the IP origin
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m-relay<peachkelsy:matrix.org> Just run your Node in an Whonix VM
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m-relay<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Its not if you want privacy
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m-relay<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Knowledge that your IP sent a specific txid a 1:21AM is an issue
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m-relay<privacyx:monero.social> So if im using my own local host on the clearnet with no proxy and its process my transaction are you saying that my local node will leak my IP??
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m-relay<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Yes
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m-relay<privacyx:monero.social> So if im using my own local node on the clearnet with no proxy and its process my transaction are you saying that my local node will leak my IP??
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m-relay<syntheticbird:monero.social> less an issue than txid, ring is completely transparent
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m-relay<syntheticbird:monero.social> less an issue than ring is completely transparent
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m-relay<syntheticbird:monero.social> Yes. As you are an outgoing only proxy.
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m-relay<privacyx:monero.social> Damn then kayaba gave bad advise yesterday
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m-relay<syntheticbird:monero.social> what advice exactly did he gave?
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m-relay<privacyx:monero.social> I asked him question on Monero talk about the malicious nodes and he went into a bit detail let find it give me a minute
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m-relay<privacyx:monero.social> > <@syntheticbird:monero.social> what advice exactly did he gave?
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m-relay<privacyx:monero.social> I asked him question on Monero talk about the malicious nodes and he went into a bit detail let me find it give me a minute
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m-relay<syntheticbird:monero.social> anyway, Cuprate will rule upon this land and you will fall into Ferris Kingdom.
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m-relay<syntheticbird:monero.social> be ready to pray our crab god
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m-relay<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Its been ~1minute
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m-relay<syntheticbird:monero.social> really not
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m-relay<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> My clock says :54 -> :55
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m-relay<syntheticbird:monero.social> very funny ofrnxmr
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m-relay<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Looks like 1minute to me!
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m-relay<syntheticbird:monero.social> \* take fentanyl \*
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m-relay<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Now it says :56!
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m-relay<privacyx:monero.social> youtube.com/live/jxPulIjhXwg?si=zfqV-VUOYAPVbtrx go to 1:25:29 time mark
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m-relay<privacyx:monero.social> Sorry about delay daylight saving just kicked in😎
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m-relay<privacyx:monero.social> I believe he might mentioned cuprate or something similar it was over 2 hours of talk
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m-relay<syntheticbird:monero.social> Ok I mean he is right on the fact that you should use a VPN/Tor, and regarding local node he didn't explicited the obvious assumption that the first node which receive your tx in dandelion++ stem phase should be *"trusted"*.
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m-relay<syntheticbird:monero.social> when you are in outgoing only at least
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m-relay<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> "if dandelion ++ is secure"
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m-relay<syntheticbird:monero.social> You can't be certain of that obviously
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m-relay<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> "other nodes cant see which node first broadcasted the transaction" statement hinges on dandelion++ being secure (which is isnt)
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m-relay<syntheticbird:monero.social> yep it's a mistake
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m-relay<privacyx:monero.social> Is it secure
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m-relay<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Linkinglion and (booger900's banlist) has been spying on monero since at lease 2020
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m-relay<syntheticbird:monero.social> dandelion++ safety assumes that any participants of the network is capable of receiving and emitting. Which isn't the case for outgoing only mode
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m-relay<syntheticbird:monero.social> it's real
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m-relay<syntheticbird:monero.social> It's not just ofrnxmr on drugs telling you that
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m-relay<ravfx:xmr.mx> Yeah, I mentionned that many time
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m-relay<monero.arbo:matrix.org> I was in this room wondering why using --tx-proxy wasn't standard since before dandelion++ existed but that's just me
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m-relay<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Lyza, dont u remember the tx-proxy has a lot of bugs :)
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m-relay<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Had*
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m-relay<privacyx:monero.social> Damn so my opsec is fucked in away except i use vpn
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m-relay<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> And still does have 1 very bad one
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m-relay<monero.arbo:matrix.org> I so do remember :(
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m-relay<syntheticbird:monero.social> or Tor
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m-relay<syntheticbird:monero.social> or an inbound compatible node
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m-relay<syntheticbird:monero.social> somewhere on a VPS
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m-relay<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> if you use tx-proxy, your node wont broadcast any of your rpc tx from your own node
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m-relay<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> (thats why its callex tx-proxy). It uses your onion/i2p peers to send the tx
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m-relay<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> it _only_ effects rpc traffic, so latency isnt really an issue
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m-relay<privacyx:monero.social> I use VPN just for my wallet but my node is on clearnet and tor though i rare use tor
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m-relay<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> The privacy leak there is if youre connecting to the node over clearnet, w/o ssl. The isp can see the tx on its way to the node
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m-relay<privacyx:monero.social> I use VPN just for my wallet but my node is on clearnet and tor though i rarely use tor
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m-relay<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> My nodes all use tx-proxy for tor and i2p
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m-relay<syntheticbird:monero.social> Always use le HTTPS
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m-relay<syntheticbird:monero.social> the green lock means secure
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m-relay<syntheticbird:monero.social> don't go shopping if the lock is red
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m-relay<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Plowsof's nodes do too. So if you send a tx to a plowsof onion, it will be broadcasted by someone elses node.
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m-relay<monero.arbo:matrix.org> most wallets don't support self-signed SSL certs very well making it hard to avoid mitm unless you buy a womain and register a certificate
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m-relay<rottenwheel:unredacted.org> /me locks [@syntheticbird:monero.social](https://matrix.to/#/@syntheticbird:monero.social) in a kennel
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m-relay<privacyx:monero.social> 100% Https always
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m-relay<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Most wallets dont do any cert pinning :P
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m-relay<rottenwheel:unredacted.org> You'll be safe in there.
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m-relay<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Mitm self signed certs is a simple matter
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m-relay<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> So for sending tx to remote nodes that dont have a CA signed cert, its best to use onion/i2p
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m-relay<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> I dont mind syncing my wallet over clearnet, but i usually will switch to my onion if i need to send a tx
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m-relay<williamfargo:tchncs.de> Always remember your threat model, using monero alone is already best practice for average joe
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m-relay<privacyx:monero.social> So if I run my node behind VPN will work?
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m-relay<syntheticbird:monero.social> yes
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m-relay<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> If you trust your VPN provider
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m-relay<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Tor is probably easier
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m-relay<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> tor is definitely easier for tx-proxy
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m-relay<privacyx:monero.social> Ok problem solved turns out mullvad was running and i forgotten about it
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m-relay<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> your node has a peerid
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m-relay<privacyx:monero.social> But will need to move my node to different device and run tor behind
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m-relay<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Why?
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m-relay<monero.arbo:matrix.org> i2p is so sexy tho
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m-relay<syntheticbird:monero.social> mullvad is the solution to all our problem
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m-relay<privacyx:monero.social> My node on one my Ryzen 9 7950X no need I going move it to my RPI4 once my RPI5 comes so move HA to it
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m-relay<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> What does this have to do with tor?
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m-relay<privacyx:monero.social> My bad i misread your question
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m-relay<syntheticbird:monero.social> no
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m-relay<syntheticbird:monero.social> be harsh
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m-relay<syntheticbird:monero.social> don't let ofrnxmr make you feel guilty
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m-relay<privacyx:monero.social> 😂 but i really did misread now when look at im wtf am talking about
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m-relay<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Apology accepted! Too late, synbhebird
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m-relay<privacyx:monero.social> Is there any work happening with p2p encryption i do remember reading a few years back that it was supported as it incresses the attack surface
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m-relay<privacyx:monero.social> Is there any work happening with p2p encryption i do remember reading a few years back that it wasnt supported as it incresses the attack surface
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m-relay<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Yea but its not active
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m-relay<privacyx:monero.social> Probably for that reason
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m-relay<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Bitcoin has multiple types of peers. Monero should do something similar
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m-relay<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> monero-project/monero #8996
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m-relay<privacyx:monero.social> Wouldn't that increase the vulnerabilities?
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m-relay<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> No
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m-relay<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> It would decrease the requirement for every peer to be used for everything
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m-relay<privacyx:monero.social> monero-project/monero #7078
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m-relay<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Oh, youre asking about p2p, i thought you were asking about this^
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m-relay<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Self-signed certs are easy to MITM
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m-relay<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> And your node wouldn't know the difference
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m-relay<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> > Eclipse attacks cannot be prevented either - an attacker can hijack TCP sessions, and the local node doesn't know whether a MitM is occurring or whether the remote node has changed pubkeys (dynamic IP or settings change).
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m-relay<privacyx:monero.social> They trying acheive similar objects
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m-relay<privacyx:monero.social> > <@ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Oh, youre asking about p2p, i thought you were asking about this^
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m-relay<privacyx:monero.social> They trying acheive similar objectives
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m-relay<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> This isn't about p2p encryption but about having peers work as a team instead of all peers behaving the same
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m-relay<privacyx:monero.social> Oh ok
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m-relay<privacyx:monero.social> I just check port fowarding in Mullvad has been stopped so running vpn behind node not looking good
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m-relay<321bob321:monero.social> yeah they all stopped it
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m-relay<321bob321:monero.social> i think airvpn works, but never used it
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m-relay<ravfx:xmr.mx> Get a 5$ vps and forward port to your node with your own wireguard vpn
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m-relay<peachkelsy:matrix.org> From where
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m-relay<basses:matrix.org> kycnot.me/?t=service&q=&xmr=on
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m-relay<basses:matrix.org> kyun, servers guru
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m-relay<peachkelsy:matrix.org> Thankz
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m-relay<imprevisto:matrix.org> ?is first node should be "trusted" for network privacy, or another reason
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m-relay<imprevisto:matrix.org> wallets should definitely warn when connecting to self signed certs (or not using tls)
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m-relay<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Thats the default
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m-relay<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Would be a _lot_ of warnings
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m-relay<peachkelsy:matrix.org> Why hosting an Node on an VPS??
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m-relay<peachkelsy:matrix.org> I would host it locally
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m-relay<peachkelsy:matrix.org> I would host it local
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BlueyHealerYou don't have to have the node on all the time, right? You can just sync it when it is needed for use?
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BillyZanehello
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BillyZanedoes using a VPN prevent mining on monero?
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hv-bridge<wearethelifersyetagain> yes if the vpn blocks the pool communication
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BillyZaneok, i can try mining with the VPN turned off to see what happens
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BillyZaneis there a way to configure the VPN to prevent that
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m-relay<peachkelsy:matrix.org> If the Pool hoster blocks the VPN *
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hv-bridge<wearethelifersyetagain> it just depends on your vpn whatever services they block or something
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hv-bridge<wearethelifersyetagain> .
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BillyZaneoh, i am hosting locally
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hv-bridge<wearethelifersyetagain> are you gonna mine on a free vpn no u wont they block torrenting too etc
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BillyZaneFYI i am new to monero. i am just trying to mine for the first time
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m-relay<peachkelsy:matrix.org> Yes if you start it every week then it takes around 15 minutes to full sync
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BillyZaneno this is not a free VPN, i am able to torrent just fine
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m-relay<peachkelsy:matrix.org> > <@m-relay:monero.social> <BlueyHealer> You don't have to have the node on all the time, right? You can just sync it when it is needed for use?
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m-relay<peachkelsy:matrix.org> Yes if you start it every week then it takes about 15 minutes to full sync
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BillyZanei'm actually syncing atm
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m-relay<peachkelsy:matrix.org> Get mullvad.
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BillyZanebut i get an error when i start mining
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BillyZaneit's error 13 i believe
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m-relay<peachkelsy:matrix.org> Which error
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m-relay<peachkelsy:matrix.org> Message
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BillyZanesorry i am syncing atm, about 2000 blocks left
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BillyZanebut i can test it out and give you the output
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BillyZanei can also disable the VPN and test it without it
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m-relay<peachkelsy:matrix.org> I think you need to have the node synced 100%
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m-relay<peachkelsy:matrix.org> > <@m-relay:monero.social> <BillyZane> sorry i am syncing atm, about 2000 blocks left
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m-relay<peachkelsy:matrix.org> I think you need to have the node synced 100% otherwise you cant mine the new blocks
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BillyZaneit's at 1650 blocks remaining
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BillyZaneyes i was doing this before when i was synced. i can try running with the CLI so i can get an output of what's happening
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BillyZane1490 blocks
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BillyZane1370
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BillyZaneit may just function with the VPN off, which will be kind of disappointing
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m-relay<peachkelsy:matrix.org> It will only function when you have your node 100% synced.
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BillyZaneyes, i am waiting for the node to sync. but this issue happened while the node was synced
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BillyZane811 blocks remaining
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BillyZaneso i am also using "gupax" in addition to "monero-gui"
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BillyZanein both cases, i was unable to mine
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BillyZanei also have IPv6 blocked
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BillyZanethough my general firewall settings are pretty open now
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BillyZane351 blocks
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BillyZaneso i think my first test will be to just try mining
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BillyZanethe next test will be to do it without the VPN connected
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BillyZanei am attempting mining
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BillyZaneit says "connected + mining"
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BillyZaneCPU resources are near 0%
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BillyZaneshould i see an immediate up-take in CPU resources
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BillyZanepeachkelsy, you around?
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BillyZanewell i started monero-wallet-gui
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BillyZane2024-12-28 09:42:29.125 E !r. THROW EXCEPTION: tools::error::no_connection_to_daemon
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BillyZanewhen i attempt to start mining, the daemon is killed, and there is a new daemon instance that starts with new flags
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BillyZanei get the same error, "daemonBlockChainTargetHeight: Failed to connect to daemon"
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BillyZaneif i try to mine P2Pool on gupax, i get an error message as well
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BillyZaneP2Pool can't continue execution: panic at /usr/src/debug/p2pool/p2pool/src/p2pool_api.cpp:96
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BillyZane2024-12-28 09:51:54.6210 P2Pool API mkdir(/usr/bin/network/) failed, error 13
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BillyZanei will attempt to do it with the VPN disconnected
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BillyZanebrb
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m-relay<321bob321:monero.social> Yes, but you'll have to let it sync every time you want to use it
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m-relay<321bob321:monero.social> Then let you wallet sync to it
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m-relay<jack_ma_blabla:matrix.org> kayabanerve: how's the progress on fcpm++ libraries ? are we seeing it this month or hopefully done by next month.
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moneromooomkdir(/usr/bin/network/) is unexpected. Maybe newfangled systemd stuff though ? Or pwned.
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m-relay<peachkelsy:matrix.org> Idk about mining
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m-relay<peachkelsy:matrix.org> Ask venice.ai
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hv-bridge<wearethelifersyetagain> uncensored ai!? bro thats cool
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m-relay<kayabanerve:matrix.org> jack_ma_blabla: I submitted them weeks ago.
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m-relay<kayabanerve:matrix.org> repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/c…als/-/merge_requests/448#note_27450
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m-relay<elongated:matrix.org> So fcmp testnet is matter of weeks ?
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m-relay<elongated:matrix.org> So fcmp testnet is in matter of weeks ?
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m-relay<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> depends
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m-relay<syntheticbird:monero.social> within 1 to 2 month testnet launch
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m-relay<kayabanerve:matrix.org> The current work is on integration of those libs.
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m-relay<ravfx:xmr.mx> You did not get it :)
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m-relay<ravfx:xmr.mx> You cant host a node on a 5$ vps (it wont have enough storage)
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m-relay<ravfx:xmr.mx> A vps allow you to host a node locally when you are behind a CGNAT. Plus it provide you with a static ip...
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m-relay<ravfx:xmr.mx> You want the vps to be near the physical location of the node
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m-relay<ravfx:xmr.mx> Plenty of locations have dirt cheap vps.
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m-relay<ravfx:xmr.mx> You really just need the one with 1 cores and 512MB of ram. Really the lowest offering considering you are only going to use it for wireguard or softether and basic iptables
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BlueyHealerWireguard is easily detectable and bockable tho
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BlueyHealerblockable
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zibthis new masque is nice
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m-relay<ravfx:xmr.mx> BlueyHealer: Iptables -t forward --dport 18080 -J DROP
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m-relay<ravfx:xmr.mx> That was really not the point !!
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zibcheaper to get a vpn then a vps.
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m-relay<ravfx:xmr.mx> The point was to be able to have incoming behind a cgnat. More and more peoples are behind a cgnat. And Dandelion++ dont work properly if incoming is blocked
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ziband you can change static ips regularly etc. Both work but vpn is cheaper.
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ziband vpn in most cases require no kyc but most vps providers do
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m-relay<ravfx:xmr.mx> You dont control the vpn like you control the vps.
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m-relay<ravfx:xmr.mx> Plus there is less and less offering that allow forwarding of ports
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zibsure but there's not many non-kyc vps:es with many locations.
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ziband there's enough vpns that offer static ips
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BlueyHealerzib, idk, my VPS is cheaper than a lot of VPN providers' offerings. Also no KYC.
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BlueyHealerAnd yeah, I have far more flexibility with what obfuscation method I can set up.
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zibBlueyHealer: they exist (i am one of them :D) but vpns would give you more locations. So depends on where you are. I noticed his "near the physical location"-part
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m-relay<ravfx:xmr.mx> Normally the do accept random information (most use solus vm... That vps manager ask for info but dont care, i always fill with random)
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m-relay<ravfx:xmr.mx> A lot of vps accept crypto too
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zibi didnt see his original suggestion i think so dont know what the initial point was.
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zibofc vps is better if you want to do like incoming clearnet -> tor -> cgnet-node
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zibBlueyHealer: with unlimited traffic? that vps i mean. Please share provider :)
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BlueyHealerAs for more locations - fair. I just didn't need that, and flexibility was more important.
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m-relay<ravfx:xmr.mx> Do you really need a vps for that?
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m-relay<ravfx:xmr.mx> I never got issue hosting tor hidden services behind nats
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BlueyHealerThe KYC that is more widespread is for "proper" domain registration though. That one I am not sure I can just bullshit on, although lean towards this.
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zibI just spoke from a friend experience. He did not care about "being close to the physical node location". He runs his monero + bitocin nodes etc and just changes location with the vpn every month.
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BlueyHealerWhy is changing locations important? Is he hiding the fact that he's running a node?
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zibAnd I felt that was nicer/easier then a vps. It's not like you really need the exit node to be close.
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m-relay<ravfx:xmr.mx> Veesp.host (latvia, russia)
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m-relay<ravfx:xmr.mx> Kyun.host (usa, romania)
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m-relay<ravfx:xmr.mx> Here four random locations
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m-relay<ravfx:xmr.mx> Unlimited
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BlueyHealerKyun came with a warning on monerica - that it has downtime issues. Is that true?
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m-relay<ravfx:xmr.mx> First is veesp.com
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m-relay<ravfx:xmr.mx> Sorry, use a crap device from the bed lol
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zibBlueyHealer: It was just a "why not" since it was so easy and scriptable. No need to do anything manual.
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zibjust a http api req to the vpn-provider to change exit once a month.
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m-relay<ravfx:xmr.mx> Oh yeah, i thing the nodes connect less with node that have a 9000 ping
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m-relay<ravfx:xmr.mx> If its too far you are going to get only 1 or two incoming
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zib9000? :D So if its on Mars?
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m-relay<ravfx:xmr.mx> I did test and notice the issue with vps that are on the other side of the world
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m-relay<ravfx:xmr.mx> So a near location is just better
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zibi have 90 incoming connections
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zibpretty spread worldwide.
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zibthats just my EU node.
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m-relay<ravfx:xmr.mx> We dont talk about hiding, we talk about hosting behind a cgnat!!!
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zibother node is 12(out)+170(in) connections,
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zibyes im just saying latency does not matter.
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m-relay<sagewilder:unredacted.org> iirc monerod will mechanically ask more to nodes that complete response faster
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m-relay<ravfx:xmr.mx> Mine have also plenty but you missed the point.
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m-relay<ravfx:xmr.mx> If you are in argentina and your neighbor connect to you via that entry in russia. He is going to have a ping over 500
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m-relay<ravfx:xmr.mx> Yeah, if I very far vpn, i get a few incoming but the leave and endup with 1 or 2 left lol
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zibbut ~40% of my incoming connections in my EU node are from asia
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zibso i mean it cant really matter that much
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m-relay<ravfx:xmr.mx> Try to get the point please
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m-relay<ravfx:xmr.mx> There a difference between connecting from asia
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m-relay<ravfx:xmr.mx> And going around the whole world one time to connect because of far vpn
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m-relay<sagewilder:unredacted.org> zib is right. latency is not take into account when selecting p2p nodes.
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m-relay<sagewilder:unredacted.org> only drop rate will force your node to drop a peer.
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zibyes
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m-relay<ravfx:xmr.mx> Oh, interesting. Maybe I found a bug then. Will have to test more with that specific setup
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zibmy point was, even if not hiding, i would choose a vps/vpn-node a bit away from me because there's no reason not to.
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zibesp if its cheaper :D
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m-relay<sagewilder:unredacted.org> Care to elaborate?
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m-relay<ravfx:xmr.mx> I did test a node with an entry point on the other side of the world. I get a few incoming but they leave except like 1 or 2
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m-relay<ravfx:xmr.mx> I was assuming node would drop connection to node with very high ping (compared to there other connections) or something similar
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m-relay<sagewilder:unredacted.org> Intriguing.
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zibit just takes time to build incoming connections since you're advertising yourself. I dont remember how exactly it works.
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m-relay<ravfx:xmr.mx> I am running a few node, that issue is only with that far vpn.
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m-relay<ravfx:xmr.mx> It stay to 1 incoming even after a week
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m-relay<ravfx:xmr.mx> I can bring back that setup online if needed, to do more science!
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zibok odd. Let me check a new one in asia i put up a week ago, sec. Just Umbrel
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zib26 incoming after a week.
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zibmostly DE and US ips
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m-relay<ravfx:xmr.mx> My far vpn test is equivalent to buenos aires -> moscow.
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zibdont know the latency on that but all mine now is over 250ms
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zibits more likely you have packetloss or something and its disconnecting for that reason
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zibor your isp is actually shaping/rate-limiting udp or whatever you are vpning over.
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m-relay<ravfx:xmr.mx> Thats why i initially thought. Made plenty of test and could not find an issue with the vpn link
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m-relay<ravfx:xmr.mx> As far as I know, Russia is not fscking with monero
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zibi more thought argentina :D
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ziband udp not monero
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m-relay<ravfx:xmr.mx> Not the case
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zibfor my udp vpn i need to change ports often since it gets ratelimited
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zibif you message me tomorrow i can give you a free wireguard tunnel for your node and we can see whats up.
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m-relay<ravfx:xmr.mx> I only connect to the net using my network of vpns, all udp, i can torrent and do all stop, no issue.
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m-relay<ravfx:xmr.mx> Even no issue torrenting with that far vpn
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m-relay<ravfx:xmr.mx> Not really required, i have plenty of node but thanks for the offers
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zibnp, just like to sponsor xmr-stuff :)
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m-relay<ravfx:xmr.mx> oh it's still on that node I totally forgot about
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m-relay<ravfx:xmr.mx> Height: 3312964/3312964 (100.0%) on mainnet, not mining, net hash 3.39 GH/s, v16, 12(out)+1(in) connections, uptime 37d 21h 13m 59s
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zibvery weird
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zibmust be some other problem
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zibif you send the ip i can try connecting from mine
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RavFXzib: Thanks for the offer but I'm going to do more test for that node myself now that I know the latency dont matter.. And also update the monerod to last version in the same time.
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m-relay<basses:matrix.org> cyberinsider.com/russian-government…sps-to-hand-over-names-of-vpn-users
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BlueyHealera) it's way too many people and b) there are stealthy protocols anyway
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m-relay<ravfx:xmr.mx> I only own vps in russia :) and they dont have my name!
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m-relay<elongated:matrix.org> Which provider? Accept xmr?
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BlueyHealerIs that through a reseller?
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BlueyHealerFor a provider, that'd probably be illegal to accept XMR there. But the fact that this is nonetheless possible is very nice.
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m-relay<basses:matrix.org> I would pay for Mullvad, instead of setting up my own VPS with limited locations and sticking out like a sore thumb with only guy with VPS
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m-relay<ravfx:xmr.mx> Yeah reseller.
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m-relay<ravfx:xmr.mx> They accept LN but that you can xmr->ln on tor sooo
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BlueyHealerNICE
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BlueyHealerbasses, I would also like to run some services there - so rented a VPS.
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BlueyHealerAlso, I have a choice of what obfuscation to use. They have v2ray from what I've seen, which is based, but I haven't chosen one yet.
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BlueyHealerAlso, a vps seems less likely to be blocked because it only serves like two people.
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m-relay<basses:matrix.org> I'm talking about how private it is
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BlueyHealerYeah, to each their own priorities here.
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zibRavFX: sure sure :)
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m-relay<max12max:matrix.org> hi all
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m-relay<max12max:matrix.org> im new in monero can sombody help me how to start
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