<k​y:fluffiest.net> >cant greentext award

<k​y:fluffiest.net> can i say nigger in here

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Oh my goodness gracious!!

<s​iren:kernal.eu> No you'll have to crawl back to where you came from for that

<k​y:fluffiest.net> but you guys can put monkey emojis

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> oh hi ky

<k​y:fluffiest.net> hi Synbhebird

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> you can't say n-word here sry bb

<k​y:fluffiest.net> thats fine i have a very wide vocabulary

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> HOLY SHIT THE LOGS

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> epic

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> You want to cum here too bb?

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Meeeeeeooooowwwwwwww.

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Purrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> PUUUUURRRRRRRrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> im a cat, a cat cannot be gay

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> False. Fake news.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> damn you must be right

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> somehow #monero is turning into shitposting but #monero-offtopic is into philosophy

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> i must say that's a deep reflect of humankind

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> monero and offtopic have always been pretty much the same, rookie.

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Just that monero normally gets more on-topic than off-topic, but they both are trashy talk all day.

<e​longated:matrix.org> Maybe look into the mirror too

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> sir i'm a human being, not a matrix channel.

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> At least the retards the likes of Juliu and aswhatever numbers are contained in offtopic now!

<e​longated:matrix.org> You need to stop cat dog chat

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Philo wat.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> alr

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Sophy, it's my middle name

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Show ID sar.

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Prove it or else.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> else it will be

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Show papers.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> no

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> And that is how we uncover a lie said by a kitten.

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Mmmeeeooooowwww.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> wut

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> ky was banned in another channel?

#monero [XMR] Be excellent to each other and welcoming to newcomers

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> nioCat +1

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> ah ok its you plowsof

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> i was like, how did banhammer enabled himself

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Why was ky banned!?

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Dictatorship!

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> broke my CoC

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> The one that has been an open PR since 2019?

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Nice.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I wasn't even in the monero community in 2019 you moron

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> I guess I know who won't be eating salmon smooth food after dinner tonight.

<k​y:pony.cx> now listen idk if i was banned for saying the n word or if ppl think im here to troll but if its the former

<k​y:pony.cx> lets not put monkey emojis on my shit

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> He never gives up!

<k​y:pony.cx> i mean i dont give a fuck but im literally black and double standard rules are kinda lame i think

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> `fluffiest.net` and `pony.cx`. He sure has interesting TLDs for his Matrix homeserver picks!

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> I am sure he is not a troll!

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> something cookie related next i hope

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Holy shit, I think he's sysadmin at fluffiest.net one lol. fluffiest.net

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> > For any inquiries, please contact @ky:fluffiest.net

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> yes he is

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> dont ban his instance just in case. I think i've seen other members here using his server

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> im surprised he is banned but you didn't deleted his messages

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Should have banned rotten tbh lol

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Ky seemed pretty normal until he said a bad word in response to rotten egging him on(?)

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> yes its just the n-word that triggered the ban imo

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> the second was evasion obviously, the `(kyun.host troll)` tho is coming out of nowhere

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> ^

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Then u have rotten putting monkey emoji's bcuz he doesnt want plowsof to yellow card him

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> ^ i second this statement

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> cant turn a blind eye to one person constantly calling ppl _fill in the blank_, and then instaban someone else for following suit

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> ^

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Words are used with context and intent. I'm not justifying or demonizing any words. I don't take offense to any of it, but from the outside looking in, there's an obvious dbl standard

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Theres a diff between saying "this is retarded" or "this is gay" and calling someone retarded/transexual/gay/midget/fat/short/n***** etc

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> and seems 1 person is allowed to try to get a rise out of ppl, and throws tantrums when given warnings.

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> other ppl just getting instabanned, even after agreeing to stop.

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> P = NP

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> ^

<y​atta:private.coffee> Wait who da 1 allowed person?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> yatta, when ofrnxmr is talking about one person its obviously about rottenwheel

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> when rottenwheel is talking about one person its obviously about ofrnxmr

<y​atta:private.coffee> I thot it was same person...

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> kewbit strikes again

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> You thought i was rotten?! Smh

<y​atta:private.coffee> Bro I never know when y'all are trolling or not

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Rotten isnt allowed. He was banned 4 years for it, and he promised to stop to get unbanned. He cant help but advertise his fetishes tho

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> I'm never trolling

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> He is never trolling

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Also i'm never troll... \* ahem \*

<s​iren:kernal.eu> We're never trolling

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> \* AHEEEM \*

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> \* DYING \*

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> The hive mind never troll

<y​atta:private.coffee> I'll figure this out eventually but still pretty sure you're all ofrn

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> You heard that ofrnxmr

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> he says im Siren

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Siron*

<y​atta:private.coffee> Chillchillchilll

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Yeah Siron i forgot my name

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Close enough. Just not rotten.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> her name*

<y​atta:private.coffee> Everyone but her gotcha

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> her?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> ROTTEN IS HER????

<y​atta:private.coffee> Bros i love all yall

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> EVEN HER????

<s​iren:kernal.eu> Who's she?

<y​atta:private.coffee> Ok not her then boss

<y​atta:private.coffee> But everyone else

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> t̲͕̋̄̈́͝h_̹̱̍ͧ̆̕e̦͌̀̎́̇̕ h̵̨͎ͣ̌̑ͭi̤̦̒̅v̢̹ͦ́͗è̸̲͕̈̊͝ m̢̟͗ͥi̶̸̢̱͓n̼͓̩͔d͖ l͖̦ov̐͘͠e͂ y̭̞͓̝̋ͩ͞o̓ͣu̸̧̍̊͆͠ to͙͂̚o̢̔̈́̏͡

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Thanks mbll

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Thanks mbll

<s​iren:kernal.eu> Thanks mbll

Thanks mbll

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> What a bag of weirdos...

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> In the meantime... my preview from offtopic is some talk about masons... and 'centralperk' is in there. Fun.

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Offtopic is officially the containment zone for the unhinged retards.

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> We did it reddit!

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> someone accidentally let rotten out

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Synbhebird (no paper, maybe too hard for a cat): mmmmeeeeeooooowwwwwwww.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> matrix.to/#/!qqRhJzAUfTJRpMHqIP:mat…mx&via=matrix.org&via=monero.social

<s​iren:kernal.eu> Appropriate reaction

ofrn why are most of your links not for viewing by IRC?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Because i'm racist

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Its a link to offtopic tho

<g​unter:kyun.host> 5322r3df2rrr3MEM210823-2.jpg-2-618x553.jpg

<g​unter:kyun.host> I thought black people were allowed to say that 🤔

<y​atta:private.coffee> I think even if they're black, if it's used in a manner to be anything but excellent toward another human, it's technically still not allowed here but I'm just reading literal guideline #1

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I think it was more of "ask stupid questions, expect stupid answers"

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Ban rust instances

<s​iren:kernal.eu> So what are you trying to achieve by pinging me in public rooms periodically and posting this image?

<s​iren:kernal.eu> Loser behavior, but it's good for other hosting providers who accept XMR and are more competent since you run an anti-ad for yourself. matrix.to/#/!cSwJDzxRuWndmFUZTd:hav…&via=matrix.org&via=hackliberty.org

<3​21bob321:monero.social> 🍿

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Nioc want to share ?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> PUUUUURRRRRRRRrrrrrrrrrrrrr

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> servers.guru may I ask for alpine linux image support in servers.guru ?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> or arch linux

<s​ervers.guru:matrix.servers.guru> We have an iso you can install it yourself from the control panel. Same with arch.

<s​ervers.guru:matrix.servers.guru> And if there is an iso you want to add that's not there, you can send us a link and we'll add it.

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Only if you wear the t-shirts

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I have two of them

<b​asses:matrix.org> yeah, but this is irrelevant to what I asking about.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> You said:

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> > Any reason for recommending these services? Also, is it better to buy resellers VPSs from known companies like Hetzner?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Better imply order. You didn't specified what criteria you were looking into. We're in a monero channel, he assumed privacy.

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Want privacy selfhost at home!

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Made in `Dan's house`

<b​asses:matrix.org> he can scroll and see the main topic, he's not an IRC user

<b​asses:matrix.org> also what he talking about is security related

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> "hetzner will have access to IP logs and such" is literally privacy related

<3​21bob321:monero.social> None of them will die on the hill for you

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Same goes for VPNs

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Ivpn will die for me !

Resellers from big companies might be fine but I would much prefer a smaller datacenter. Less likely to get mass-blocked, and diversifies control.

<m​mxxx:monero.social> huh?

<m​mxxx:monero.social> ivpn > mullvad

Why so? Used IVPN btw, very grateful for a favor they did for me.

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Its business at the end of the day

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> all vpns who run a legal business will spy on you if handed a court order to do so

<3​21bob321:monero.social> All the audits are good, but if a gov comes knocking

But yeah, wouldn't rely on a particular company (or particular technology, for that matter) on a higher threat model.

I'm from the government, and you're help to help.

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Vpns are just moving your trust from isp

<3​21bob321:monero.social> 999xmr plz

321bob321, and given that they do not block the same shit - shifting trust may be fine. Also if they are in a jurisdiction that is not buddy-buddy with yours.

*here to. Jeez. Always mess up at right time...

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> mullvad wouldn't be allowed to offer services to americans if they werent compliant with US laws

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Depends on your threat model

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> MULLVAD WILL DIE FOR ME

ofrnxmr, you mean it would refuse whole range of American IPs? Or how would it be enforced? I would not put it past them to make the service crypto-only for Americans.

<m​mxxx:monero.social> i'd trust ivpn before my janky isp

<m​mxxx:monero.social> mullvad too

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Your janky isp knows that youre using ivpn

A ton of providers we use here are not whitelisted so technically disallowed to service residents. People use them anyway.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> And ivpn knows the ip that was assigned to you by your janky isp

ofrnxmr, at least Mullvad offers obfuscation now. But overall the trend seems to be for people to set up their own XRay, VLESS or whatever.

ofrnxmr, there are situations when this is entirely acceptable.

<m​mxxx:monero.social> they know i'm using ivpn and nothing else

<m​mxxx:monero.social> that's all i need

<m​mxxx:monero.social> you act like that's a major "gotcha"

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> No, ivpn can _easily_ share your activites with feds in your country, including who you arebby associating your ip addr

If the jurisdictions are right, there may not be a *passive* exchange, and this may be enough in your case.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> i'm definitely not implying that there is ever a passive exchange

ofrnxmr, yeah. And thus you don't depend on just one company (or layer of security) if the threat model is higher!

<b​asses:matrix.org> mullvad > ISP

If you can be ruined by one request to a company, you're doing something wrong in the first place.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I'm specifically saying that there is no guaranteed of privacy if youre connecting to using a centralized cloud service

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Using a vpn to commit crimes is honeypot advice

yeah

exactly, so you don't. Doesn't mean there are np usecases when it is perfectly adequate.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> These vpns are designed to circumvent censorship, not to maintain anonymity

<b​asses:matrix.org> I'm going to drop secret sauce to eliminate the trust of VPNs having direct knowledge of what you are visiting:

<b​asses:matrix.org> connect to a VPN then use Tor browser

Or avoid *passive* data collection in some cases.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Bluey, i never implied that they dont have a purpose, only that expecting anonymity is foolish

ofrnxmr, as if you would expect it anyway

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Or: use tor browser

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Bluey: seems there are a good portion of people who think a vpn is a valid substitute for using an anonymity network

basses, even after a few years, I don't have an understanding whether a VPN + Tor is less safe than just Tor tbh. I know it is not recommended for some reasons, like a false sense of more security - but your circumvention server is much less likely to bw blocked than a bridge, so wonder if this introduces drawbacks.

ofrnxmr, okay then

Tor Browser is too slow for 1080p Youtube!

<b​asses:matrix.org> I would advice anyone that recommends using Tor only without using a VPN to search "tor stinks nsa"

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> If everyone uses ivpn, that literally JUST moves the weakest link from isp -> ivpn

From some comments I have read, seems like Chinese anons have Tor team beaten in terms of censorship evasion - as Webtunnel has some flaws in this regard that XRay doesn't...

<l​ucidlynx:envs.net> Even traffic traffic can be analysed as loading a particular website through it is still going to cause a unique traffic pattern

<m​mxxx:monero.social> that's a silly hypothetical

<m​mxxx:monero.social> everyone doesn't nore are they likely to

<l​ucidlynx:envs.net> Even VPN traffic can be analysed as loading a particular website through it is still going to cause a unique traffic pattern

<b​asses:matrix.org> U.S and Germany LE are known for running tor nodes

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> And 1 company is known for running mullvad

And US and Germany LE are known to not be on good terms with our government.

<b​asses:matrix.org> Mullvad have a solution for that mullvad.net/en/blog/introducing-def…st-ai-guided-traffic-analysis-daita

Also yeah, not sure how people operate on higher threat models, but sure they don't rely just on Tor.

<b​asses:matrix.org> doubt having bad terms with anyone country saved ransomware gangs asses

<l​ucidlynx:envs.net> Yes I was about to link to that too 🤠

<l​ucidlynx:envs.net> One can imagine the pornhub intro being a unique fingerprint

basses, if you're doing ransomware, you're already down the wrong path anyway L

LOL

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> thats just a noise protocol

<l​ucidlynx:envs.net> Yep

<b​asses:matrix.org> B​lueyHealer, and? I'm not discussing whether something is right or wrong, just stating facts that being in a rival country doesn't protect you from the ops

basses, yeah, if you're wanted on a high level. I think it is fine if your concern is being picked at random from the passive collection.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> therefore.. Using a vpn doesn't protect you from the ops

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> In some cases it adds an extra hop (a mere annoyance if feds have to get a warrant). In some cases it can easily be utilized as a honeypot - users voluntarily granting a company access to all of their "private" traffic

I know this sounds like victimblaming, but it feels like you're doing something dangerous like ransomware or DNM vending, OPSEC is very much on you anyway.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Your crimes done have 2 be that bad. You could just be trading crypto on a cex that doesnt support your country ; evading taxes

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> (Maybe not a great example)

<b​asses:matrix.org> I wasn't talking about myself if you are assuming my threat model is that high or doing any of this stuff.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Mullvad will never let the feds listen to me.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> FUD

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Banned for racism

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Thread locked.

<b​asses:matrix.org> if you are a journalist or a cybersecurity researcher working at companies that expose APT and state actors malware, your threat model is likely more or same as DNM and ransomware gangs.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> or "if youre an anon working on a cryptocurrency project"

<b​asses:matrix.org> lets be real, 5$ won't pay for lawyer's coffee

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> i don't feel concerned

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I'm already backdooring cuprate so there is no point to try torturing me in a dark room undeground far from any city in the desert

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Thats the spirit

<b​asses:matrix.org> will do after you become useless for them, leave no trace behind them

<b​asses:matrix.org> anyway, I would bet on getting that rust project finished in the first place

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> you shouldn't bet lmao

<b​asses:matrix.org> you better do or you will be bullied

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> roger roger

Happy new year!

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Happy new year West Asia

<s​ervers.guru:matrix.servers.guru> Happy new years

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> omg i said west instead of east kms

That's the kind of thing you *really* need to get right when you declare war on live tv.

West Asia is not a good place to be, at least until the Jews and the Americans finally fuck off.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Weve always been at war with ... 1984

The others get a free pass ?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> oy vey, that's le bad to say such things sir

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> moneromooo free fuel at station + new year cake

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> moneromooo - Yes, of course. Cant have too many scapegoats or else it gets confusing

Easier to select targets, though. "Does it look like a duck ? No ? SHOOT".

Then again, it might be hard for illiterate people: "Does it look like a dick ? Yes, sir, they all do don't they ? Err, shoo.. err..."

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> lmao

Imagine... 4BIRD STRIKE!

Planes falling out of the sky, brave avian warriors sacrificing their lives for the good of all birdness.

Avenging our geese sisters who've been sacrificing their livers for the good of dicks

Happy New Year !!

Oh yeah, hope there'll be one this year again. What suspense.

I mean, we got lucky till now. So there's a good chance there\'ll be another one again right ?

All these people at mightnight celebrating just because it turns out they have another year to look up to, full of more debt, hunger, asshole far right rulers and other niceties.

Well, maybe it's time for the duck underground to arm, er, wing itself.

Well, at least I'll leave this world better than I found it. I made sure monero didn't die an early death. Thanks to all of you guys working to give it more time.

🍻

We can get a population to water, but not make it drink. If they get rounded up by fascists later by having their financials traced, at least it won't be my fault.

At least I'm glad my concerns are not that short term for now. Meh. Guess I need to lay off the vodka for a bit.

Happy holidays everyone. I hear this riles up assholes. Whooo.

Ducks have been mistaken for UFO's , they could definitely start a war if they wanted to. Thats why i befriended a few at the local park.

Objectifying ducks are we... :P

moneromooo: thank you for all the fish

And thanks to you all for feeding me while I worked on monero. Being able to leave my job to focus on monero all these years was only possible because of you. Even if I suspect most of you aren't actually ducks...

I identify with mammals and birds so.....

Jinx. Technically, so do I...

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Im a SyntheticDuck

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Sometimes i like to be an ostrich / emu / trex

<p​rancing389:matrix.org> Good article talking about privacy crypto. Basically, I look at this as positive when anyone discusses privacy in a public forum, since most have completely conceded their rights to privacy in today's society.

<p​rancing389:matrix.org> decrypt.co/295929/year-in-crypto-war-privacy

<s​hortwavesurfer2009:monero.social> Got into a discussion on Nostr about possible lightning network stuff on Monero.

<s​hortwavesurfer2009:monero.social> From what i understand of FCMP++ transaction chaining you could make a multisig with a refund transaction to get back the money if the other peer went offline.

<s​hortwavesurfer2009:monero.social> However, i seem to remember monero deprecating or removing timelocks a little while back because of the possability of locking an output for an insane amount of time.

<s​hortwavesurfer2009:monero.social> If correct it seems like you could open a LN channel but it could only last 10 blocks before it would have to be closed because of the refund transaction being valid to broadcast.

<s​hortwavesurfer2009:monero.social> If correct how would you even close the channel in its final state before the refund could be broadcast and what good is a LN channel that only lives for 20 minutes anyway?

<r​ucknium:monero.social> shortwavesurfer2009: The time locks that enable BTC lightning channels and Monero's deprecated time locks do not work the same. See monero-project/research-lab #129 and the "Payment channels" papers linked in monero-project/research-lab #94

<r​ucknium:monero.social> IMHO, payment channel networks are not a good design. Centralization of the network into hubs-and-spokes and poor privacy characteristics are two problems. Not to mention the fact that it is hard to incentivise their use when fees on the main chain are low.

<s​hortwavesurfer2009:monero.social> Rabbit hole here i come

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Excuse me saaaarrrr but i want my VISA like XMR payment, with instant confirmation

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> tho more seriously i see the concerns but i think that if another architecture does not come up at some point, monero adoption will naturally drag some developers to make a payment channel network.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> and it will be used

<r​ucknium:monero.social> BTC Lighting isn't used much even for retail purchases. Maybe 6 years operating and high fees on the main chain.

<s​hortwavesurfer2009:monero.social> Oh shit. I can already tell that that is way over my head, LOL.

<s​hortwavesurfer2009:monero.social> I just had to open the first link and read a little bit to know that.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Don't be scared

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Well, well... I didn't have moneromooo drunk posting on NYE. 😂 That's a new one.

<r​ucknium:monero.social> When you lock an output in a payment channel, it starts to accumulate history. History is the enemy of fungibility and privacy.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> cryptography isn't that hard,

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> you'll just need to torture your brain on some books for a year and it will be fine

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> It's used quite often in nostr zaps.

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> /me ducks out

<s​hortwavesurfer2009:monero.social> Irangefren on simplex was talking about payments without routing. Since you wouldn't be able to route between channels, theoretically it should eliminate the privacy issues with hub and spoke models and cause people to use it between people who transact often or individuals to services such as Netflix.

<r​ucknium:monero.social> Payments without routing occurs how? AFAIK, there is no design like that.

<s​hortwavesurfer2009:monero.social> Alice can't pay Charlie through Bob. Alice has to open a channel with Charlie directly.

<r​ucknium:monero.social> Oh, so no network, only individual channels. Yes, that's OK, but probably not worth the UX disadvantages compared to just pre-payment

<s​hortwavesurfer2009:monero.social> The only time I could see something like that being of any use anyway would be for like close friends or roommates paying each other back and forth rather frequently.

<r​ucknium:monero.social> AFAIK, for the "trustlessness', you need to have a server online checking that you are not being cheated, and to broadcast a punishment tx if you are cheated

<s​hortwavesurfer2009:monero.social> Mmm, good point

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> There is no way @monero just wasn't excited today:

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> x.com/monero/status/1873759987807523192

<o​ieieio1:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/wkajSlatYDPHuRFIFJqGfWXq

<o​ieieio1:matrix.org> 🎉 Year-End Fun with ChatGPT and the Monero Blockchain! 🚀

<o​ieieio1:matrix.org> This year, we explored an incredible dataset: the entire Monero blockchain! 📦 With over 3.29 million blocks, this dataset contains:

<o​ieieio1:matrix.org> Block Height: A sequential number for every block in the chain.

<o​ieieio1:matrix.org> Transactions: The number of transactions recorded in each block.

<o​ieieio1:matrix.org> Timestamp: The exact moment each block was mined.

<o​ieieio1:matrix.org> 📊 Highlights:

<o​ieieio1:matrix.org> We uncovered blocks with record-breaking transaction counts and visualized transaction trends over time.

<o​ieieio1:matrix.org> From Monero's genesis in April 2014 to today, this dataset showcases the power of decentralized systems and cryptographic privacy. What a fantastic way to wrap up the year by diving deep into blockchain data! 🌐💎

<o​ieieio1:matrix.org> drive.proton.me/urls/7QR3BWC4DM#uo7KBYvQaoutDownload and place in your chatGPT

<l​oeasy6:matrix.org> It says it needs a passwod

<o​ieieio1:matrix.org> hmmm i tried it in incognito, it says its a public link

<l​oeasy6:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/sELigHGsrJhCJyRGeCnovPwN

<o​ieieio1:matrix.org> drive.proton.me/urls/7QR3BWC4DM#uo7KBYvQaout

<l​oeasy6:matrix.org> Ok, Thank you it is called block data 1 .csv

<o​ieieio1:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/FfYwslkgxzikEDwEErgkezzE

<o​ieieio1:matrix.org> yes

<l​oeasy6:matrix.org> Thank you

<o​ieieio1:matrix.org> drive.proton.me/urls/7QR3BWC4DM#uo7KBYvQaout Download and place in your chatGPT

ChatGPT

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