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<321bob321:monero.social> Monero twatter spotted ^
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<umask777:decred.org> hm another plane crash on the midatlantic seaboard
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<umask777:decred.org> how long until donny boy takes stage and says china is doing it... 🤔
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<umask777:decred.org> perhaps we should start a pool
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<crispycat:calitabby.net> 46_Dick_Cheney_3x4.jpg
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<syntheticbird:monero.social>
neptune.cash/blog/betanet-v2
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> It's over XMR Bros, Monero will be replaced
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> Jump of the boat!!!
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> off the*
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<ldutovas:arcticfoxes.net> RetoSwap is so annoying. Everyone just want to profit instead of selling or buying XMR.
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in other news, the sky is blue when the sun is up
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> LD: Yes, people thinking RetoSwap is the ultimate answer to monero delisting are delusional
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> I've tried 5 times already and it never worked around reasonable fees. Needing buy or sell your shit with 15% or -15% fees is ridiculous. Even web p2p platform that just handle BTC or BCH are cheaper
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Also, there is no liq on other exchanges
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Exch sells out regularly at 4% above market
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How's Bisq compared to this?
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lol 15% fees?
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that's a lot
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> If you want to buy at market... heres a secret.. post a buy offer at market 😱
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> BlueyHealer, not that different, it's just less visible because there are a lot of people on Bisq
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> so more offers
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Also, does it work without owning prior BTC now? Someone told their no-deposit option is different from Haveno's.
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i wanted to as you all something
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> I literally done that
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> why arent there any buy offers at market? Bcuz they are taken quickly
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what's a good range of fees for users?
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> I'm posting my own offers
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> no one take it
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<ldutovas:arcticfoxes.net> Have been trying to buy at market price for a whole day.
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Me too 🥲🏳️⚧️
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ofrnxmr, because accepting crypto as payment is illegal in some places so you'd need some OPSEC.
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Whoops, the flag was accident
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i mean, for people to accept
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> I can believe that
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<ldutovas:arcticfoxes.net> Have been trying to buy at market price for a whole day. With three offers with different payment methods.
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ofrnxmr: freudian slip
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Ikr. 🥲. I actually gave up a cpl week ago
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BlueyHealer: that's right
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i actually hate that tbh
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i live in one of those places
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ye same
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<ldutovas:arcticfoxes.net> Is there a way to buy XMR with -2% max?
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I mean, you would probably be absolutely fine, just like a lot of people buying and selling drugs in the clearnet, govt seems to not care. But I'd still avoid it without VERY good OPSEC.
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lol
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<ldutovas:arcticfoxes.net> Is there a way to buy XMR with only losing 2% of money?
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So, is Bisq's method for small purchases without prior BTC ownership different from Haveno's? Like, can you just find a seller right there and get the initial amount?
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> LD: exchange to LTC
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> it's the only way
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> and i won't guarantee you get 2% loss
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> and i won't guarantee you get less than 2% loss
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<ldutovas:arcticfoxes.net> Sigh, why greed has to always ruin everything.
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my country is planning to "unban" cryptocurrencies after several years, but with a giant twist
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the government wants 30% of any exchange transactions
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exchanges KYC anyway
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and also exchanges need to be done in government-approved crypto exchanges, so they can get their 30%
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<ldutovas:arcticfoxes.net> LOL
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Your tax might be "dealing with unexpected loans taken with your leaked KYC"
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Are fees on BTC okay for, like $30 purchases btw?
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30% is fucking crazy, and that's on top of the platform's fees and what else
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i'd rather stick to what i had been doing while it was still banned lol
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Ye. For me the KYC is hard enough barrier of entry lol so don't even think of this.
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same for me too
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my govt just wants another thing they milk dry
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<ldutovas:arcticfoxes.net> I will do an experiment. How long it will take for me to buy XMR at market price.
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they can milk dry*
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ldutovas, yeah, interesting.
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<ldutovas:arcticfoxes.net> Will leave my offer at 0.00% until someone sells.
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(ugh I hate that Matrix usernames cannot be tabbed to autocomplete!
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well
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i always just write their names
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<artes91:matrix.org> hello! i need help with transfer XMR. I tried to use several wallets for the transaction but nothing works for me. it says that I do not have enough available funds to send and also errors. very strange because according to the calculation everything should be ok as you can see in the screenshots. when I check the wallet address in the blockchain it is not found, but the wallets a<clipped message>
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<artes91:matrix.org> re active and there have already been transactions for withdrawal of funds. please help with advice.
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<mayhem69:matrix.org> what happens if you try less that 84.2? try 84 or 80?
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> { waiting for image to load }
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> You have to update your feather wallet to the latest version
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Also, follow this and click the "max" button
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<artes91:matrix.org> I have already tried sending 80 and 84 as you can see in the screenshots
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> This "too many inputs" error shouldn't happen. If you have more than 146 inputs than you probably need to use the "max" button
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Max does a "sweep_all". It should split the 1 tx into multiple tx that are less than 146 inputs.
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<artes91:matrix.org> I downloaded the latest current version from the official website and loaded the blockchain. I use an exchanger and I need to send an exact amount. I have never had such problems before, but I have never sent such an impressive amount either.
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> use "max" button to send to yourself first
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> this will combine your 146+ inputs into 1 input
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<artes91:matrix.org> ok I'll try. thanks!
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<artes91:matrix.org> Is it possible to calculate the xmp commission for using the MAX function in advance before creating an application in the exchanger?
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> send it to yourself first
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Send MAX to your own wallet address, then after it confirms, do your transfer
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<artes91:matrix.org> I used the max function but it happened again
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<artes91:matrix.org> perhaps there are some other options?
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<artes91:matrix.org> oh my god. finally i managed to do it from another wallet. thank you!
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Not sure why it errored in feather tbh
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<basses:matrix.org> Артём Олейниченко can you join #feather:monero.social and share the issue?
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<basses:matrix.org> feather dev can help you out
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Артём Олейниченко i'd recommend doing this self-spend a couple more times, because its easy now to a consists your tx with you
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> It created 6 transactions that are trivially traceable to your handle and wallet address
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<martin.monero:matrix.org> 84.2 nice
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<ldutovas:arcticfoxes.net> Managed to buy Monero with 1% loss through RetoSwap, this is some insane luck right there.
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Congrats)
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<ldutovas:arcticfoxes.net> Another trade got accept for market price. I think this has something to do with time. During the day, nobody would accept even with 2% loss, now it's possible to buy even at market price.