<b​asses:matrix.org> wonder if they are going to open source server's code, it is waste to just let go all the time and code spent

<b​asses:matrix.org> wonder if they are going to open source server's code, it is waste to just let go all the time spent and code written

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Show me the moniez

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> rahl, its been updated. Thanks

<l​za_menace:monero.social> > Tornado Cash co-founder Alexey Pertsev released from prison <- Hope he fully recovers from the trauma soon!

<m​asayuki:wired.rehab> oh great monero chat is being used as a standard /biz/ crypto chat

<m​asayuki:wired.rehab> monero doesn't make you money monero is money

<m​ark:chat.nicecrew.digital> I made quite a bit of money from Monero.

<m​ark:chat.nicecrew.digital> It's money in the same way fiat is money, but I also make money from forex fiat trading. One doesn't prevent the other.

<m​asayuki:wired.rehab> One kills the spirit of the other

ofrnxmr: cheers. much appreciated

<s​hortcow:yatrix.org> Is it possible to sent exact amount taking into account the commission?

<s​hortcow:yatrix.org> I want to send exactly N xmr even if recipient will receive N-eps

<m​asayuki:wired.rehab> you mean network fee?

<s​hortcow:yatrix.org> yes

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Yea but only using cli or rpc

<a​om20:matrix.org> Does any one have experience with integrated address with the rpc?. When ever i send to a integrated address, my unlocked balance goes to 0, unitil block confirmation

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Notmal with any address

<a​om20:matrix.org> yes i know some funds get locked, but not all. for example on on the testnet i have 10 xmr i send 0.1 from that account to a integrated address, unlocked balance goes to 0. I do the same process but to a normal address only a few xmr gets locked, unlocked balance does not go to 0

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> If you only have 1 input in your wallet, then all funds are locked

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> 1 input worth 10xmr -> "send 1xmr" == send 10 xmr, get 9 xmr in change == the 9xmr is locked

<a​om20:matrix.org> 1 input is all funds are on one address?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> no. Inputs are split per transaction received

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> So if you send 2 transfers of 5xmr to the address, you will have 2 inputs of 5xmr

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> If you were to then send 1 xmr, youd consume one 5xmr input, and youd have 5xmr unlocked + 4xmr change locked

<a​om20:matrix.org> ok thanks, i think i reed the docs again

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> First time i get the `There were X blocks in the last 90 minutes` warning

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> interesting

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> You need to watch more closely :P

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> rino had a block frequeny monitor, not sure id still up

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> But blocks are sometimes like 2x and sometimes less than half. When we had oscillating 1.5gh a couple years ago, it was a lil obnoxious

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Please vote on the poll: matrix.to/#/!pBnQQFvuFhLffbKZpY:hav…om&via=matrix.org&via=monero.social

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> CRITICAL VULNERABILITY IN MONEROD!!!!!!

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> hope i get your attention like that

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> CRITICAL VULNERABILITY IN MONERO WALLETS!!!!!!

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> sry for spam irc

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> alright alright shortcow ill delete it

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> pardon me irc for the bad joke

some say lightning network is more private than monero

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> great_taste well i hope they don't use it for illicit purpose otherwise the FBI investigation is gonna be quickly resolved

<s​hortcow:yatrix.org> Why all CC store ALL transactions? There is no way to maintain the state without it? Im afraid of blockchain growing, because it will not fit on consumer's hdd

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> CC?

<s​hortcow:yatrix.org> cryptocurrency

<3​21bob321:monero.social> CCS*

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Bcuz if you have old tx you have to be able to reference them to spend them

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> and be able to prove they havent been spent

<s​hortcow:yatrix.org> Isn't there a danger that the blockchain will eventually grow so large that it will become very difficult to store?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> > Why all CC store ALL transactions?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Because per their protocol and consensus they need to have access to all historical information to verify/emit/reject a transaction/make the cryptocurrency work

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> > There is no way to maintain the state without it?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> No

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> > Im afraid of blockchain growing, because it will not fit on consumer's hdd

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> If you follow ArticMine on scalability, this isn't an issue. Note that there is a well known solution called "Recursive zero-knowledge proof" which can permit to prune the blockchain up to a certain height, and then you can do your work with just a cryptographic proof of the past. In theory you could keep the blockchain size to under 1MB if you wanted but it comes with caveats lik<clipped message>

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> e having to keep your wallet online to receive your funds, otherwise they are lost forever

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> monero-project/research-lab #110

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> see this issue shortcow for monero research lab discussion on the topic

<s​hortcow:yatrix.org> is ArticMine real not anonymous man?!

<s​hortcow:yatrix.org> I see photos on duckduckgo

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> lmao no

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> he was chillin in webcam hours long during latest monero talkk

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> he was chillin in webcam hours long during latest monero talk

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> he made several presentations at monerokon

<s​hortcow:yatrix.org> Is he core member? Why he doent afraid of government bastards?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> he is core. because government isn't really interested into Core. at least yet

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> the only anonymous member of core is luigi

<s​hortcow:yatrix.org> Well, now I won't sleep peacefully, but will wait for the backdoors in next updates

<s​iren:kernal.eu> The times you fail to sleep and stay up, you can spend the time auditing commits. Then you can be sound asleep.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> He also doesnt have access to the infra

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> infra like dns, servers, github etc

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Or wallets

<e​longated:matrix.org> Yah try find it in the code

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Someone tried to convince me that the majority of monero core developers are known informants

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> it was proven in court documents, allegedly 🙃

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> they couldnt name any, or source which court docs, obv

<s​hortcow:yatrix.org> About reviewing code... I have some global ideas how to solve this problems, not only about monero, but now its only dreams, so i dont want to talk about it now. But, obviously, its requires too much time for 1 man to review all software that he use

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> What

<s​hortcow:yatrix.org> Never mind

<s​iren:kernal.eu> SAST tools exist veracode.com/products/binary-static-analysis-sast

<s​hortcow:yatrix.org> This is the first time I've seen this program, but obviously there is no analyzer that you can simply feed another program in regular languages ​​to and get an answer whether the program is written correctly or not.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> oh you're right i forgot

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> binaryFate does have access and isn't anon fwiw

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> cc ofrnxmr

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> i failed my answer on matrix

<c​ultparty:matrix.org> Is using Monero as user-friendly as just using Cake Wallet?

<e​longated:matrix.org> It is, will get friendlier when wallets support lws

<1​7lifers:matrix.org> monero gui wallet is for desktop users and cakewallet is to put on your phone

<m​ark:chat.nicecrew.digital> Cake wallet is also released on desktop if you like the mobile experience and don't want to use another software.

<1​7lifers:matrix.org> hmm i live under a rock dont i

<e​longated:matrix.org> It’s still beta

<1​7lifers:matrix.org> that explains it

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> So is monero tho

<e​longated:matrix.org> And so is everything in life

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Not really

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Plenty of 1.0+ software

<e​longated:matrix.org> 1.0 doesn’t meant not beta

<e​longated:matrix.org> Cake for desktop has same version as their mobile, but doesn’t mean they label it as stable

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> 1.0 is usually the first stable release

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> You can have betas after that

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> like 2.0 beta 🙃

<e​longated:matrix.org> I hope you are not putting your money on beta coins

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Monero is a bets

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> There are a lot of coins on exchanges that are literal testnets

<e​longated:matrix.org> So xmr is stagenet if its beta ?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> No

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Stagenet is identical to mainnet. Stagenet is for developers to build their apps on

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> The only diff between stagenet and mainnet is volume, hashrate etc. The code is identical.