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<preland:monero.social> Too late, I’m now timed out for 7 days
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<preland:monero.social> And if no one controls the discord officially….can we remove it from the website?
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<preland:monero.social> Or at least label it as unofficial?
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Everything is unofficial
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Matrix, irc, telegram, discord ..
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<preland:monero.social> Fair enough
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<preland:monero.social> Also, from talking further I do think they can 51% the network at the current hashrate
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<preland:monero.social> They seem pretty confident about doing so
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<preland:monero.social> From what I can gather, they are currently only putting in 10% of their effort, and they want to put in more
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<preland:monero.social> By that logic, if they put in 50% effort….welp it’s a 51% attack
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<preland:monero.social> (And by want to, I mean that they are considered doing it in a week from today)
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<preland:monero.social> Or in two days?
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<preland:monero.social> Basically they (I don’t know who they is) change their compute design once a week on Wednesday
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<preland:monero.social> Ok it sounds like next Wednesday
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<lordx3nu:matrix.org> two more weeks
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<imprevisto:matrix.org> 100%
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<imprevisto:matrix.org> they are deceptive in their self promotion too
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wafflefrie
Is bitcoin actually failing?
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<elongated:matrix.org> Yes, it just has a new daddy called corporate banks
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<elongated:matrix.org> Does it affect xmr transactions ? They can mine blocks with no txs ?
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<einliterflasche2:matrix.org> I think they could effectively shut down the chain by not including any real transactions in the chain
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<elongated:matrix.org> Great so pow is easy to attack
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<anestheticbliss:matrix.org> By that logic shouldn't they put 100% effort for a 50% attack?
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<anestheticbliss:matrix.org> In any case, we must be able to survive attacks like this
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<anestheticbliss:matrix.org> If we can't survive a guy and his shitcoin we are doomed
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<x3cc:nope.chat> It’s actually already surprising qubic reached even 500 MH/s
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> For 14 seconds?
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<modul8:matrix.org> Wonder how long this will last. Sounds like a Richard heart project.
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<bridger1233:matrix.org> what's up my nigga
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uncle_rae
o_0
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<bridger1233:matrix.org> why is registration disabled on the monero.social homeserver?
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uncle_rae
iunno, they get ddosed a whole lot
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<smalltalk6:matrix.org> Moleswap.xyz, used it yesterday to swap a big amount of eth to xmr
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<everythingxmr:matrix.org> Do you just own it?
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<smalltalk6:matrix.org> also use my ref for lower fees MOLE50-A7X9K2
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<smalltalk6:matrix.org> just shilling ref
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<everythingxmr:matrix.org> Use atomic swaps like unstoppableswap or basicswapdex
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<smalltalk6:matrix.org> and I like the swap
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<gogo2464:matrix.org> Very good! How much will i loose in gaz?
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<smalltalk6:matrix.org> not everyone likes p2p hassle like myself
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<smalltalk6:matrix.org> 0.5/1% with ref even less
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<everythingxmr:matrix.org> The hassle is just to wait for a few minutes. You don't have to find a peer
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<everythingxmr:matrix.org> Possibly your entire amount due to them exit scamming or Shotgun kyc
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<smalltalk6:matrix.org> lol
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<gogo2464:matrix.org> ok nice
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<smalltalk6:matrix.org> also if you’re doing it with big amounts make sure to swap in increments. it’s just safer like that
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<sherry:unredacted.org> nah unstoppableswap is sucks
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<sherry:unredacted.org> overdesigned
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<everythingxmr:matrix.org> How is it overdesigned?
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<everythingxmr:matrix.org> You literally just chose the provider and send your coins to the lock thing
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<einliterflasche2:matrix.org> I'm one of the devs, we're currently reworking the ui to remove any unnecessary complexity
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<einliterflasche2:matrix.org> You may wanna give it another try in a few weeks :)
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<sherry:unredacted.org> good
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<sherry:unredacted.org> i'll keep eyes
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<everythingxmr:matrix.org> Thank you for your work
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aruns
Any accountants in here?
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aruns
Trying to wrap my head around some accounting concepts.
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aruns
Unless this isn't the right channel for that.
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plowsof
aruns, stop.
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aruns
👍
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<neromonero1024:monero.social> in cli wallet, what encryption algo does the encrypted_seed command use?
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<dveldistortion:matrix.org> L opsec
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moneromooo
Looks like xored with a chacha20 stream with a random iv and the key (just looked now).
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moneromooo
Random IV is odd though. I'd expect the enc seed to be deterministic.
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moneromooo
Anyway, curiosity just went away after the initial flare up, not looking more into it.
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<neromonero1024:monero.social> Interesting
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<neromonero1024:monero.social> Thanks for the info
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<x3cc:nope.chat> Btw how hard is it to crack monero wallet password? I have a wallet file at least 1-2 year old and don’t remember if there is any coins
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<x3cc:nope.chat> If I open file with monero gui it prompts for password, maybe some precious coins are there, so I need gpu vps or smth
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<anestheticbliss:matrix.org> Probably just brute forcing the password, but you are not limited by network constraints
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<anestheticbliss:matrix.org> Because brute forcing a seed is very difficult (you need to sync transactions each time), but brute forcing a wallet encryption password must be very easy
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<x3cc:nope.chat> What software to use to brute force wallet pass?
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<neromonero1024:monero.social> Monero wallet file is encrypted using chacha
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<neromonero1024:monero.social> So, depends on the password length and the security strength of chacha
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<anestheticbliss:matrix.org> Personally I'd run the worst possible script ever created in humanity's history and just multithread it. Idk of any real world applications 😅
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<anestheticbliss:matrix.org> If the wallet is yours maybe you can make some sort of dictionary with stuff that you might have used?
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<anestheticbliss:matrix.org> Or get a password dictionary
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<x3cc:nope.chat> It’s probably a strong password but I didn’t even try simple ones, just because probability of guessing is very low and I think I need specialized software and gpu to brute force with some speed like thousands of passwords per second, also I’m not sure if common password dictionaries like seclist or rockyou.txt will help
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<x3cc:nope.chat> I think I need to try like every combination with gpu, from shortest ones
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<x3cc:nope.chat> But I guess maybe trying seclist dictionaries and rockyou first idk
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<x3cc:nope.chat> If I need to write brute force script myself I think I try to do it in another year or two
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<anestheticbliss:matrix.org> Have you tried "password"
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moneromooo
Yes, it printed "I asked first".
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<anestheticbliss:matrix.org> Im sure there is some software that lets you add some "check" command to verify if the password is valid, and brute forces the thing
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<syringes:matrix.org> Hashcat
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<anestheticbliss:matrix.org> Is there a p2pool channel?
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> P2Pool
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rsch
I guess for some of you its an old topic but by coincidence I crossed some posts about acusations that fluffypony is a spy or a scamer. what has really happened?
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> He rugpulled monero
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rsch
ofrnxmr: what does it mean?
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rsch
why
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nioc
He is a big reason why monero became what it is today
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nioc
Don't believe most of what you read and only half of what you see
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> +1
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fibonacci12358
Nioc, who is?
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fibonacci12358
Fullfee?
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nioc
Someone was wondering about things that have been said about fluffy. I didn't respond directly to questions raised but instead gave a different perspective
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fibonacci12358
I missed the beginning cause I came in late
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nioc
I understand
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fibonacci12358
The truth is I don't know the truth.
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nioc
@seen truth
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fibonacci12358
When it comes to him I mean...
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fibonacci12358
Hah
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nioc
Cat is truth
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fibonacci12358
I can't read minds and hearts
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fibonacci12358
How's your cat doin
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fibonacci12358
.bal
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Wallet
fibonacci12358: 0 XMR
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fibonacci12358
Nice
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nioc
Doing fine
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nioc
.bal
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nioc: 0 XMR m:1
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fibonacci12358
Good... He must be getting a little older for a cat
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nioc
Getting there
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fibonacci12358
My dog is like 17
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fibonacci12358
Weiner dog
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fibonacci12358
Dachshund
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fibonacci12358
Mini black n tan.. poor guy has to wear diapers now
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fibonacci12358
Lives with my ex I miss the old boy
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nioc
I know someone who had an old miniature poodle with the same issue. They trained it to go in one spot
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nioc
In the house
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nioc
Spot was set up to function as needed
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fibonacci12358
Yup for ours it's the kitchen linoleum
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fibonacci12358
He won't be around too long unfortunately
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rsch
nioc: tell me the story
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rsch
i have asked about the accusations about fullfee being a scamer or a spy. I dont believe what I read but I would like to know the truth.
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> What do you want to know?
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fibonacci12358
Just a businessman is what it appears... He helped with a privacy coin
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fibonacci12358
Idk tho
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fibonacci12358
That's my belief
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fibonacci12358
Didn't research.. just heard stories
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rsch
ofrnxmr: why he left and are the accusations true?
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> He stepped down because he was arrested
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rsch
ofrnxmr: its not great for moneros reputations if his lead is involved in scam. it might others think monero is a scam too
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> He left because he has better things to do
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rsch
I could imagine that it was just a campaign to ruin moneros image as it happens with many celebreties who talks too much against certain groups. but how much is true in the accusations?
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Fluffy isnt the lead, he's the ceo
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> they tried to get fluffy and failed
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> They got ver, they got samourai, they got tornadocash giys
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ofrnxmr: so they made pressure to make them leave?
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> No
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> he stepped down when he was arrested so that they couldnt try to pressure him to do anything unethical
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> He left (last year?) because he has better things to do