libera #monero

12 Jun 2025

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• 00:03
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  <x​3cc:nope.chat> He worked on Tari instead
• 00:14
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  <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> He's been working on tari for many years
• 00:22
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  <3​21bob321:monero.social> Almost a meme
• 01:01
  rsch
  do you think its a bad idea to be related to the monero project in public?
• 01:11
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  <x​3cc:nope.chat> Yes of course, not sure how qubic will wash off this reputational damage..
• 01:11
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  <x​3cc:nope.chat> (Just kidding)
• 11:31
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  <s​malltalk6:matrix.org> tornado is still up
• 11:33
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  <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> guys*
• 11:33
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  <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Samourai, bch, and tornado are still up
• 11:33
  m-relay
  <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> (Just like xmr is still up)
• 11:34
  m-relay
  <s​malltalk6:matrix.org> tornado + chainhopping + monero is the way to go
• 11:34
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  <s​malltalk6:matrix.org> (the basics)
• 11:35
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  <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> i have no use for tornado or samourai
• 11:35
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  <e​verythingxmr:matrix.org> How is that any better than just xmr?
• 11:37
  m-relay
  <e​verythingxmr:matrix.org> github.com/qubic/proposal/blob/4c12…gic-qubic-monero-quorum-decision.md
• 11:37
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  <e​verythingxmr:matrix.org> Qubic is so delusional
• 11:38
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  <s​malltalk6:matrix.org> bro trust
• 11:40
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  <p​lowsof:matrix.org> "Monero users - reduced fees (even zero fees [...]" - now that would be appealing to people making p2pool consolidation transactions
• 11:41
  m-relay
  <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Super appealing to people trying to make transactions /s
• 11:42
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  <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Nothing better than waiting 12hrs for a confirmation because qubic likes small blocks /s
• 11:42
  m-relay
  <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Size doesn't matter, am i right?
• 11:42
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  <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> absolute fucker full of bot
• 11:43
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  <p​lowsof:matrix.org> in a future where there is a separate line on txcity - >1GB of overweight zero fee tx's
• 11:43
  m-relay
  <p​lowsof:matrix.org> waiting to be mined 💢
• 11:43
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  <e​verythingxmr:matrix.org> People happily giving access to the whole monero chain to a random dude are so retarded
• 11:43
  m-relay
  <e​verythingxmr:matrix.org> Genuinely
• 11:45
  m-relay
  <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> the commits on this repo are cringe af
• 11:45
  m-relay
  <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Same commit msg for 15 comnits
• 11:46
  m-relay
  <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Over and over again
• 11:46
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  <e​verythingxmr:matrix.org> Reddit is full of bots shilling qubic
• 12:03
  m-relay
  <e​longated:matrix.org> So it’s a bothet mining for quibic pool ?
• 12:04
  m-relay
  <e​longated:matrix.org> xmr-stats.qubic.org
• 12:04
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  <e​longated:matrix.org> Pool HR is zero right now, was 450M a few hrs ago
• 12:04
  m-relay
  <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> how much time has qubic been mining?
• 12:04
  m-relay
  <e​longated:matrix.org> Couple of weeks
• 12:05
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  <e​verythingxmr:matrix.org> Very possible
• 12:05
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  <e​verythingxmr:matrix.org> 1 person connected lmao
• 12:07
  m-relay
  <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> how much precisely?
• 12:07
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  <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> 3, 4 weeks?
• 12:29
  m-relay
  <d​veldistortion:matrix.org> What platforms do u use to bridge funds?
• 12:42
  m-relay
  <s​malltalk6:matrix.org> moleswap.xyz. Used it for a month now to swap big amounts of xmr back and forth. never had any issues with kyc/aml.
• 12:43
  m-relay
  <e​verythingxmr:matrix.org> If you hate atomic swaps trocador is way better
• 12:44
  m-relay
  <s​malltalk6:matrix.org> yeah trocador is also very good
• 12:45
  m-relay
  <s​malltalk6:matrix.org> moleswap has better rates tho
• 12:45
  m-relay
  <e​verythingxmr:matrix.org> And is possibily a scam
• 12:45
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  <e​verythingxmr:matrix.org> Just like trocador
• 13:03
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  <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> didnt you join and shill moleswamp in your first post
• 13:03
  m-relay
  <s​yntheticbird:monero.social> pepe ofrn remember
• 13:05
  m-relay
  <s​malltalk6:matrix.org> so we’re not allowed to help ppl here? I reacted to a question..
• 13:05
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  <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Literally
• 13:05
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  <s​yringes:matrix.org> maybe he just really likes moleswap
• 13:05
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  <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Joined 3mins before that comment
• 13:05
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  <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> matrix.to/#/!eBgZCVRnRRkKchiYzS:mon…mx&via=matrix.org&via=monero.social
• 13:06
  m-relay
  <s​malltalk6:matrix.org> and nobody answered his question
• 13:06
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  <e​verythingxmr:matrix.org> Just use unstoppableswap
• 13:06
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  <e​verythingxmr:matrix.org> No reason not to
• 13:06
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  <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> ^ the question was answered
• 13:07
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  <s​yringes:matrix.org> doesnt it have astronomical fees?
• 13:07
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  <s​yringes:matrix.org> and only btc to xmr
• 13:07
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  <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Question was "how to buy", not "how to swap"
• 13:07
  m-relay
  <s​yringes:matrix.org> at that point just use haveno
• 13:08
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  <e​verythingxmr:matrix.org> It doesnt
• 13:09
  m-relay
  <s​yringes:matrix.org> hey z
• 13:09
  m-relay
  <s​yringes:matrix.org> this moleswap site isnt even loading for me
• 13:09
  m-relay
  <s​yringes:matrix.org> its just a black page
• 13:09
  m-relay
  <s​yringes:matrix.org> i dont like this mole...
• 13:09
  m-relay
  <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Moles live underground
• 13:09
  m-relay
  <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Its supposed to be dark
• 13:10
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  <s​malltalk6:matrix.org> lmao
• 13:10
  m-relay
  <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> (doesnt load here either)
• 13:11
  m-relay
  <s​malltalk6:matrix.org> damn feds caught the mole
• 13:11
  m-relay
  <s​yringes:matrix.org> i miss exch...
• 13:11
  m-relay
  <s​malltalk6:matrix.org> fr
• 13:11
  m-relay
  <s​malltalk6:matrix.org> was my go-to exchange
• 13:11
  m-relay
  <s​yringes:matrix.org> it was so good
• 13:12
  m-relay
  <s​yringes:matrix.org> everything about it was executed perfectly
• 13:12
  m-relay
  <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I almost only use basicswap 🤷‍♂️
• 13:12
  m-relay
  <s​malltalk6:matrix.org> moleswap gives me the same vibes hope they site is up again later
• 13:13
  m-relay
  <s​yringes:matrix.org> ive never tried
• 13:13
  m-relay
  <e​verythingxmr:matrix.org> How much are they paying you
• 13:13
  m-relay
  <e​verythingxmr:matrix.org> Website is up btw
• 13:13
  m-relay
  <e​verythingxmr:matrix.org> Nvm had it cached
• 13:13
  m-relay
  <s​yringes:matrix.org> its still black for me
• 13:14
  m-relay
  <s​yringes:matrix.org> oh
• 13:19
  m-relay
  <s​malltalk6:matrix.org> 1 btc per moleswap mention
• 13:21
  m-relay
  <d​veldistortion:matrix.org> I was about to swap 💔
• 13:23
  m-relay
  <d​veldistortion:matrix.org> I like the name, mullvad + moleswap combo
• 14:03
  m-relay
  <e​longated:matrix.org> Qubic mined its first Monero block on June 9, 2025, following a solo mining ramp that began on May 18.
• 14:06
  m-relay
  <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> What?
• 14:07
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  <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I swear its first block was long before june 9
• 14:08
  m-relay
  <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> "Miners connected:1"
• 14:09
  m-relay
  <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…oad/xmr.mx/lYpnvkVUwdcZlmIWDORCKEOW
• 14:10
  m-relay
  <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Did you ask temuAI or something? Lol
• 14:28
  m-relay
  <i​ntr:envs.net> is this CFB the new meme tough guy?
• 14:28
  m-relay
  <i​ntr:envs.net> at least he's cooler than fireice_uk
• 14:32
  m-relay
  <d​veldistortion:matrix.org> It’s already up check their TG
• 14:34
  m-relay
  <e​verythingxmr:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/FJHUymrvewgRISJxUOfglDso
• 14:34
  m-relay
  <e​verythingxmr:matrix.org> Very low fees!
• 14:34
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  <p​lowsof:matrix.org> where is the skip advertisement button
• 14:36
  m-relay
  <e​verythingxmr:matrix.org> This isn't an ad
• 14:36
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  <e​verythingxmr:matrix.org> I'm making fun of them
• 14:36
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  <s​yringes:matrix.org> because you're trading 10$ try with higher amounts
• 14:37
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  <e​verythingxmr:matrix.org> Still 6% fees
• 14:37
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  <s​malltalk6:matrix.org> it’s not lol
• 14:37
  m-relay
  <s​yringes:matrix.org> im getting 4.5 on a usdc to usdt trade
• 14:38
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  <e​verythingxmr:matrix.org> Their liquidity is terrible
• 14:38
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  <e​verythingxmr:matrix.org> 1k usdv
• 14:38
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  <e​verythingxmr:matrix.org> 1k usdc
• 14:42
  m-relay
  <e​longated:matrix.org> Something similar 😂
• 14:43
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  <s​malltalk6:matrix.org> brokey
• 14:43
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  <e​verythingxmr:matrix.org> I love giving random people a chance to scam me and free money
• 14:44
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  <s​malltalk6:matrix.org> > hasn’t swapped before
• 14:44
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  <s​malltalk6:matrix.org> > calls it scam
• 14:44
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  <e​verythingxmr:matrix.org> Have I called it a scam?
• 14:44
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  <e​verythingxmr:matrix.org> It can rug any time
• 14:44
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  <s​malltalk6:matrix.org> saying trocador is a scam is crazy too
• 14:44
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  <s​malltalk6:matrix.org> have used them for over a year
• 14:45
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  <e​verythingxmr:matrix.org> They might scam too lol. I use them often aswell
• 14:45
  m-relay
  <e​verythingxmr:matrix.org> Use them for other pairs and low swap amounts
• 14:46
  m-relay
  <s​malltalk6:matrix.org> why swap usdt there when there is uniswap?
• 14:47
  m-relay
  <e​verythingxmr:matrix.org> Because other chains exist
• 14:47
  m-relay
  <s​malltalk6:matrix.org> you can trade 1M in one go
• 14:47
  m-relay
  <e​verythingxmr:matrix.org> Yeah if their addresses were public lmfao
• 14:47
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  <s​malltalk6:matrix.org> oke jupiter whatever
• 14:47
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  <e​verythingxmr:matrix.org> Proof of reserve and it's just a number
• 14:47
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  <s​malltalk6:matrix.org> their sole purpose is to facilitate xmr
• 14:48
  m-relay
  <e​verythingxmr:matrix.org> Yeah so?
• 14:48
  m-relay
  <e​verythingxmr:matrix.org> Their other addresses are "private"
• 14:50
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  <s​malltalk6:matrix.org> swap xmr -> eth voila you got clean eth and can swap it through uniswap
• 14:50
  m-relay
  <s​malltalk6:matrix.org> use brain?
• 14:50
  m-relay
  <e​verythingxmr:matrix.org> Is this a reason for their proof of reserves to be completely fake?
• 14:50
  jcpham
  fluffypony is my secret crush
• 14:51
  m-relay
  <e​verythingxmr:matrix.org> Same reasoning goes to using p2p platforms or atomic swaps
• 14:56
  m-relay
  <d​veldistortion:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/hKoqACsUGUSWzVFmZPfOKdUl
• 14:56
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  <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> i just tried to swap 1m usdt, 15 confirmations and its not working
• 14:56
  m-relay
  <d​veldistortion:matrix.org> just swapped not bad
• 14:57
  m-relay
  <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I dont think mole has 1m worth of xmr
• 14:57
  m-relay
  <d​veldistortion:matrix.org> As long as they got no AML bullshit then I’ll use it more often
• 14:58
  m-relay
  <d​veldistortion:matrix.org> Proof?
• 15:00
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  <e​verythingxmr:matrix.org> They don't even have a tor/i2p mirror
• 15:00
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  <e​verythingxmr:matrix.org> They will either add aml or get shutdown
• 15:01
  m-relay
  <d​veldistortion:matrix.org> That might be true
• 15:26
  m-relay
  <e​verythingxmr:matrix.org> Why don't we have a simplex group?
• 15:26
  m-relay
  <e​verythingxmr:matrix.org> Way better than telegram, matrix or irc fot privact
• 15:26
  m-relay
  <e​verythingxmr:matrix.org> Way better than telegram, matrix or irc fot privacy
• 15:46
  m-relay
  <k​evino:tchncs.de> It isn't good for large groups
• 15:46
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  <k​evino:tchncs.de> There is a monero room on simplex though
• 16:02
  m-relay
  <k​ufecure:xmr.se> why don’t we turn our group into encrypt model
• 16:02
  m-relay
  <e​verythingxmr:matrix.org> Because it needs to be closed
• 16:02
  m-relay
  <e​verythingxmr:matrix.org> It's bridged to irc anyway
• 16:05
  m-relay
  <k​ufecure:xmr.se> Thanks
• 16:13
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  <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> theres no good reason to encrypt a public room
• 16:14
  m-relay
  <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Its not like your messages are being sent in plain text. It still uses a tls connection
• 16:55
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  <c​omradeblin:matrix.org> We will look into integrating moleswap. Trocador is an aggregator, not an exchange.
• 16:55
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  <c​omradeblin:matrix.org> I beg your pardon?
• 16:57
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  <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> No need to beg
• 16:57
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  <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> How can you say "we'll look into integrating unknown scam" and then complain about the being called a scam
• 16:58
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  <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I dont know anyone but Z that has ever even mentioned moleswap, and it was his first message 3 mins after joining
• 16:58
  m-relay
  <c​omradeblin:matrix.org> Look into= check them.
• 16:58
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  <c​omradeblin:matrix.org> Look into= check them out
• 16:59
  m-relay
  <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I'm not saying trocador is a scam, i'm saying that your comment ^ feeds that narrative
• 16:59
  m-relay
  <c​omradeblin:matrix.org> We have very strict integration procedures
• 16:59
  m-relay
  <c​omradeblin:matrix.org> I know
• 16:59
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  <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> So why even entertain the comment
• 17:00
  m-relay
  <c​omradeblin:matrix.org> Just reading back, as i saw trocador being mentioned. Currently on my phone, so bit harder to interact with element
• 17:01
  m-relay
  <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> trocador isnt w scam and everyone (and everythingxmr) knows that
• 17:01
  m-relay
  <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> ^
• 17:23
  m-relay
  <d​veldistortion:matrix.org> You seem like someone with full of hate within. Just relax bro
• 17:23
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  <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> took you like 5mins to write that comment
• 17:23
  m-relay
  <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Were you using your index fingers
• 17:24
  m-relay
  <d​veldistortion:matrix.org> You just proved my point
• 17:24
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  <d​veldistortion:matrix.org> Well done
• 17:24
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  <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Thanks, I tried
• 17:25
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  <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> you typed that one much faster. Maybe you just had a hard time formulating your whine
• 17:25
  m-relay
  <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> No hard feelings. Relax bro
• 17:26
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  <d​veldistortion:matrix.org> I recommend going on those ayahuasca trips i’ve been seeing going around on the internet
• 17:27
  m-relay
  <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I recommend you try meth
• 17:27
  m-relay
  <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I've never tried it, but since were spewing garbage i figure i might as well join in
• 17:28
  m-relay
  <d​veldistortion:matrix.org> Been there done that
• 17:28
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  <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> makes sense
• 17:28
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  <d​veldistortion:matrix.org> 20 years free of heroine
• 17:28
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  <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Rather irritable person
• 17:29
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  <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Congrats
• 17:29
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  <d​veldistortion:matrix.org> Projecting now aswell?
• 17:29
  m-relay
  <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> no, thats quite literally what you did
• 17:30
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  <d​veldistortion:matrix.org> Gaslighting?
• 17:30
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  <o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Cheers to another 20years
• 21:46
  Optimus07
  Anyone here?
• 21:52
  m-relay
  <x​3cc:nope.chat> 🤫
• 22:00
  testone
  Optimus07: yes
• 22:04
  zerox
  And he is gone..
• 22:04
  Optimus07
  Can someone clone monero and tweak it a bit to make thier own coin without any legal issues
• 22:08
  m-relay
  <x​3cc:nope.chat> Monero was forked itself from Bytecoin so yeah
• 22:08
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  <i​mprevisto:matrix.org> i will sue
• 22:08
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  <i​mprevisto:matrix.org> pheer mai lawyerz
• 22:09
  m-relay
  <i​mprevisto:matrix.org> i have barrels of barristers
• 22:14
  m-relay
  <p​reland:monero.social> Optimus you can’t fork Monero, the cyber police will be after you
• 22:21
  plowsof
  too late now
• 22:32
  zerox
  I wouldnt even take that question serius and borther to answer.
• 22:35
  plowsof
  the first question was "Is Monero open source?"
• 22:56
  fibonacci12358
  People come here still.. nice