<a​lexandre:uii.pt> but i guess i can put the p2pool node on the same server as the monerod?

okay well that answers our questions

Nothing like the pain of cgnat. :)

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> you can do that yes

yes that's better

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> it's what I do for my current p2pooling

but you can just bear p2pool without incoming conns

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> It's working just as good afaik, with the outgoing only

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> but your just less collaborating with the network I guess

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> imo yoiu should put the p2pool deamon as near as the node as possible

also btw i rescind my message

it's fine to run p2pool in a NAT, as long as it can tell the router to forward ports via UPnP

<a​lexandre:uii.pt> i see, tomorrow might set it up properly on the same server as the node

(or do it yourself manually if it doesn't support UPnP)

<a​lexandre:uii.pt> cindy not on cgnat tho xD but yeah, i get what you mean

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> yeah, most people don't live in the first world sadly

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> cgnat is everywhere else mostly

lol, yeah i know

CGNAT will never let you forward ports

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> I grow up having static IP from ISP

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> Now I import IP from VPS lol

i have a dynamic IP, but my ISP lets me forward ports

mobile users (4G) have CGNAT though

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> normally if your ISP give you an IP, then you can do pretty much what you want

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> but most of the world have CGNAT

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> outside US/CAN/EU

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> even for normal cable/fiber internet

i'm outside the 1st world

all my ISP does is cycle between IPs

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> I am to, only one ISP have world reacheable IP, only with Fiber

it's annoying because it keeps cutting connections when they do switch around IPs

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> that's another problem

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> AT least with one provider I did test, persistant connection where curring every minutes or so

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> I needed to set "keep alive" for it to not get killed

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> s/curring/cutting/g

at least i can forward ports on my dynamic IP

that's the least i can ask for

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> Yeah, when they give you real IP it's great

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> even if dynamic

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> some Docsis have dynamic IP that stay "static" as long as the same MAC is plugged in the modem

also btw

alexandre: do you have a VPN?

or can you use your server as a wireguard VPN?

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> L2 vpn are nice

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> get cheap vps with second IP

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> do TUN/TAP shenanigans

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> bring IP home right to your router

Starlink is CGNAT as well. xD

you can skip the whole CGNAT shit with a wireguard VPN

mullvad is pretty good for this

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> yes, but if you get rid of the stupid router you actually get normal IPV6 (not cgnat)

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> Starlink cable is normal ethernet with 48V poe

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> get rid of starlink stupid router

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> plug starlink directly into router for adult or mikrotik or whatever

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> you get routable /64

i wonder if you can do UPnP through wireguard

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> don't use wireguard

might make it easy to automate port forwarding

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> thats' L2

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> oups

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> L3

i don't mean starlink

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> wireguard is L3

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> you need L2

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> Softether and OpenVPN can do L2

wireguard is a L2 too though

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> non

how

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> it's L3 afaik, you have to do ip routing

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> while L2 allow anything in the wire

Yeah, I've got direct ipv6, but that only works for some bits, and I've got their proper ipv6 sub so my machines all have routables. It's just a pain.

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> in a vps, you create a dummy interface

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> then you TAP that interface to a VPS virtual interface

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> then on your router, you TAP a virtual interface to that VPS interface

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> then you can set your vps static ipv4/6 right in your router

wikipedia literally lists wireguard

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> and is it like it's a static ip

in one of the TUN/TAP aplications

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> maybe it's new....

and frankly wireguard has better performance than openVPN

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> I use softether for L2 shenanignas

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> it kill wireguard out of the water

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> openvpn is slow in my experiance too

softether just hosts a bunch of protocols

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> most people don't know that Japanese thing that is SoftEther for some reason, so funny

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> But the core part of softether do L2 too

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> and is extremely flexible

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> and it's way easier to use than wireguard

does it have encryption

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> yeah, 384 bits AES-GCM (and many other choices

i'm more of a chacha20 person :P

i see softether supports wireguard only in their DE edition

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…oad/xmr.mx/uPlSNIAEnOfQhfQuOBPibUJd

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> oh, you don't have images lol

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> yes, softether have chacha20 too

nice

one question though

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> and it's only aes256 with sha384 (was going from memory, you can select many chiffers

can you actually do UPnP

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> Well, you literally import the IP in your router

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> if you can do it properly

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> with bridge and all

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> so at the end, can your router do uPNP?

i mean

can the VPS' router do UPnP?

okay that's a dumb question

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> you do need a router for adult considering you have to bridge the virtual interface you made for softether into your router

i doubt VPS is behind a NAT

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> but then you set IP, gateway and shit in your router for that interface

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> and upnp should work if said router support it

i checked my VPS' ifconfig and it lists the public IP under the interface

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> VPS in a VPS provider of your choice...

ignore my dumb question, i thought VPSes were behind NAT lol

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> then your router need to be able to run softether

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> OR you need to be able to make a link between a VM running softether to your router

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> VPS are like servers.guru, kyun.host, veesp.com, etc, etc, etc

does my router really have to run softether?

like i could just use L2IP

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> Well, if you want L2 shit

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> Softether support many protocol

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> so I don't know what/which can do L2 properly

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> I just run softether in a VM somewhere lol

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> And do Mikrotik magic shenanigans

also btw i don't have IPv6

do you? :P

(just on an unrelated note)

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> I have CGNAT ipv4

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> And IPV6 because I ditched ISP router so I can have IPV6 that allow connections

my ISP does not bother with IPv6

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> but I host ton of shit behind my ipv4 using said softether/mikrotik shenanigans

in fact i checked my ASN, and they don't even announce any IPv6 routes

it's just IPv4 lol

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> IPv6 is great

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> but yeah, so many lazy isp

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> one of my monero node in Canada don't have IPV6 too... there so lazy they can't even provide ipv6... only the biggest monopole in eastern canada lol

if i want IPv6, i'd have to use tor

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> From what I did see in my latam country, we get ipv6 everywhere, no issue (sometime the isp provider router block incoming but you just ditch said router and it fix it)

also my ISP still has their decade-old DPI

if i make an unencrypted HTTP request with the Host header set to some forbidden domain (it doesn't matter what IP i send it to), it'll automatically reset my connection

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> lol

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> unencrypted http is only used for like retro shit

the domains that it blocked haven't existed since 15 years ago or so

<d​ufebo98:monero.social> my monerod and p2pool are both running behind NAT. The monerod doesn’t have incoming connections, but p2pool has.Why

<d​ufebo98:monero.social> They r in the same laptop

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Upnp?

<d​ufebo98:monero.social> yes

check your router's port forwarding rules

you should see the rules added by UPnP

and check if monerod is one of them

<d​ufebo98:monero.social> thanks let me have a look

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Cgnat ?

<t​esttank:matrix.org> Did you notice guys as the price started going back up, the narrative changed from OH MY GOD MONERO IS DED -> Yeah actually guys mhm Qubic had at most 30% it was all fake news

<t​esttank:matrix.org> It’s so blantant it’s almost funny

REORGANIZE SUCCESS! on height: 3479613, new blockchain size: 3479622

Is this the deepest reorg yet? During this Q shenanigans I mean

<a​lexandre:uii.pt> huh, wanted to go litecoin -> trocador but kraken(where i got ltc) puts a 3 day hold on funds 🙄 Waiting it is...

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> seems to be

I have an idea on how to fight qubic. Whenever they find 2 blocks in quick succesion they don't publish them and instead keep building on them in secret as long as they are 1 block ahead of the public chain, when the rest of the network gets close to them, they publish their longest chain and cause a reorg. Since they don't controll 51% of the network if the rest of the miners/pool adopted a "first seen chain -1 n blocks" policy, so kept mining on

the first seen chain as long as it's only 1 block shorter then the longest one the qubic strat wouldn't work and all their blocks would be re-orged instead.

<l​ongroadhome:matrix.org> I think that could potentially cause other problems

<l​ongroadhome:matrix.org> Two different well-connected parts of the network could disagree on what they saw first, creating forks

This policy could be limited only to reorgs longer than 2 blocks, so for 2 blocks found at the same time longest chain always wins and if at any point one of the chains becomes longer by 2 or more blocks it becomes the main chain regardless of when it was seen.

<l​ongroadhome:matrix.org> Ah, maybe that would work

<l​ongroadhome:matrix.org> But I’m quite ignorant when it comes to details

<u​nt0ld:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/IXjVhXZxMACpoAEAdEJrSbAb

<0​xlimitless:matrix.org> Guys what is the best wallet for monero and swapping coins to anonymize

you want to use monero as a laundry machine?

<0​xlimitless:matrix.org> not laundry machine but I want to stay anonym

<a​tomfried:matrix.org> Eigenwallet provides atomic swaps

for a monero wallet I use CLI on desktop

<a​tomfried:matrix.org> I am super happy with feather wallet for desktop

<0​xlimitless:matrix.org> okay thanks. I only have an arm linux system. but binaries exist only for x64

<0​xlimitless:matrix.org> does it run also for arm systems ?

<a​tomfried:matrix.org> Featherwallet provides Linux arm64 releases

CLI also has arm linux

many people love feather

<b​asses:matrix.org> feather doesn't have swap feature

<0​xlimitless:matrix.org> hmmm cli looks scary :D but i will try

swap site has a swap feature :)

<b​asses:matrix.org> 0xLimitless u can use trocador.app on Tor browser

<b​asses:matrix.org> for swapping

<b​asses:matrix.org> and feather wallet as a secure anon wallet

<u​ju:riot.anarchyplanet.org> What are the swapping rates with eigenwallet?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Depends on the provider

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> If u use basicswap, 0-1% for ltc, 1.5+% for xmr

<b​inarybaron:matrix.org> Anything between 1-8% depending on how much demand / offers there are. You’ll always be prompted with the final exchange are before the swap is started.

<b​inarybaron:matrix.org> (I am one of the developers)

<b​inarybaron:matrix.org> Screenshot 2025-08-17 at 17.10.45.png

<b​inarybaron:matrix.org> This is the beste offer at the moment.

<b​inarybaron:matrix.org> best*

<b​inarybaron:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/YgXuHrUNRxwyGboRyiJkaAoA

<b​inarybaron:matrix.org> Minimum amounts are fairly high at the moment. There are also fewer offers than normal due to the Qubic stuff and TradeOgre going down. I think quite a few makers used them for liquidity.

<1​7lifers:matrix.org> did i hear tradeogre?

<1​7lifers:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/WtJgpTEVzKVEDbrFxDUIziCp

<1​7lifers:matrix.org> (hashvault obvs)

<b​asses:matrix.org> russia?

17lifers please don't forget irc :)

<1​7lifers:matrix.org> hiss >.<

<1​7lifers:matrix.org> ok go here right meow!! ibb.co/cSHwTx43

Thx lol

<b​asses:matrix.org> binarybaron is the wallet going to follow MD3?

<b​asses:matrix.org> material design

<b​inarybaron:matrix.org> We're not following a struct Design Spec but we are using the MUI v7 (mui.com/material-ui/getting-started) library.

<b​asses:matrix.org> yeah

<b​inarybaron:matrix.org> I'm not too much of a fan of MD3 to be totally honest but if the UI library goes in that direction, we will probably as well.

<b​asses:matrix.org> im a fan of MD3 :D

<b​asses:matrix.org> but I don't use it on desktop lol

<b​asses:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/JRTFwjRqEfCNJiqCupaYAQUY

<b​asses:matrix.org> this should be monero icon I think?

<b​inarybaron:matrix.org> You can buy Monero with Fiat with DFX.swiss

<b​inarybaron:matrix.org> That's what that button does.

<d​ufebo98:monero.social> needs KYC or not？

<c​psecofdp:matrix.org> Die Registrierung erfolgt grundsätzlich über die Blockchain-Adresse unter Angabe der E-Mail oder Telefonnummer des Kunden. Diese Registrierung gilt als Standard – light KYC (Know-Your-Customer) – und erlaubt dem Kunden den Kauf/Verkauf von Kryptowährungen bis zu einem festgelegten Tageslimit.

<c​psecofdp:matrix.org> Registration is generally carried out via the blockchain address, providing the customer's email or phone number. This registration is considered standard – light KYC (Know-Your-Customer) – and allows the customer to buy/sell cryptocurrencies up to a set daily limit.