hi guys, can the CLI wallet create QR codes, either as PNG or ascii art?

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Pretty sure

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> show_qr_code

br-m: awesome thank you

<prime:heyadora.com> What kind of crypto use proof of stake? O.o

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> A lot

<prime:heyadora.com> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: I'm sure, but trying to find which aren't shitcoins xD Ethereum seems to use it i think

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Yea

<prime:heyadora.com> Instead of miners it's called validators?

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> yea

<prime:heyadora.com> Interesting stuff

<prime:heyadora.com> I'm gonna need to try this xD seems super cool

<prime:heyadora.com> Huh, it needs 32 Etherium to become a validator? So 100k eur? Lol

<fungible.:matrix.org> aight fuck it, taking the bait on that one, just in case wholesome shits lol

<fungible.:matrix.org> @prime:heyadora.com: u aware of pokemon? well crypto is pretty much the same, there's alot of shit pokemon, pikachu is goated af tho

<fungible.:matrix.org> at the moment am unclear what the state of Proof of Work will be for Monero, since there is currently work being done regarding that

<fungible.:matrix.org> but Proof of Stake does have alot of flaws, Ethereum used to be Proof of Work (GPU mining) but moved over to PoS few years ago, because the ones that already had big bags figured that was the way for them to make more $, or something along those lines or at least my interpretation of it lol

From what I understand, it does have less energy usage - it's just still a lot and comes with too significant downsides.

I wonder just how hard it is to run an ETH validator now.

<prime:heyadora.com> @fungible.:matrix.org: Lmao

<fungible.:matrix.org> :3

<fungible.:matrix.org> BlueyHealer: tbh, i still think PoW is the way but i just been way too lazy for awhile to do any of that techy shit, the whole maintaining the rigs and so on...

<fungible.:matrix.org> so i guess for now is let's wait and see on what that finality layer thing will even be about, to have a better idea of the options right now

<prime:heyadora.com> I always knew about crypto but never really got into it tbh xD but it looks so fun now that I learned more stuff > <@fungible.:matrix.org> at the moment am unclear what the state of Proof of Work will be for Monero, since there is currently work being done regarding that

<prime:heyadora.com> Is monero made in Rust? Where is the src?

<fungible.:matrix.org> c++ if i not mistaken but alot of things in the ecosystem right now are being written in rust, SeraiDEX being one of them, there is also Cuprate and so on

<fungible.:matrix.org> github.com/monero-project/monero

<fungible.:matrix.org> as for cuprate, is a work in progress type thing:

<fungible.:matrix.org> github.com/Cuprate/cuprate

<prime:heyadora.com> @fungible.:matrix.org: Very interesting

<sbt:nope.chat> wtf zcash is at 665? that's crazy

<fungible.:matrix.org> 666 lol

<fungible.:matrix.org> 🤘😈🤘

<prime:heyadora.com> @fungible.:matrix.org: Do you think it's dangerous if I buy crypto with my real identity and then exchange it to Monero? O.o

<fungible.:matrix.org> depends of your real identity tbh, for most would say is whatever, you can just churn those funds away afterward, i personally been doing retoswap instead of KYC, walking the doggos, befriending other doggos walkers and then they do the thingy on my behalf type of thing

I avoid CEXes just because it's one more place for a leak. And if there's a crackdown, there'd be evidence that some years ago I bought crypto.

<sbt:nope.chat> @prime:heyadora.com: It's not dangerous but banks and govts obv hate monero so they will definitely put you on a watch list

<sbt:nope.chat> BlueyHealer: Agreed. Crackdowns are inevitable

I don't even think about crackdowns on XMR in particular, just crypto in general.

<fungible.:matrix.org> i guess, if your identity is not known in the community, you could do retoswap without too much worry since it's peer to peer and people wouldnt be keeping logs on that type of things

<fungible.:matrix.org> would still avoid centralized exchanges tho, KYC leaks been happening all over the place from them :/

<sbt:nope.chat> Leaks in general are at all time high, even more reasons to not use CEX

<fungible.:matrix.org> right

<prime:heyadora.com> @fungible.:matrix.org: Very interesting, i hate gray areas xD

<fungible.:matrix.org> x)

Leaks would be biggest and most realistic concern about this, ye

<prime:heyadora.com> Like I would gladly even report every transaction i make to the gov or whatever xD just let me legally use this stuff

<fungible.:matrix.org> right that make senses, i mean, specially for business owners, they not doing that shit for free and they gotta comply regardless

<fungible.:matrix.org> idk much about complying tho x)

I've seen screenshots of some businesses having a markup on payments that are done in crypto.

<fungible.:matrix.org> but there are business like shopinbit for example, it works for them so why not u know

Apparently due to regulations. That seems like a fair tradeoff, at least they're not asking for KYC, just somewhat compensating for risks.

<sbt:nope.chat> @prime:heyadora.com: Why? The whole point is eliminating their approval

For a business - less so than for individuals.

<prime:heyadora.com> @sbt:nope.chat: Eliminating the need for bank approval is already a victory to me xD and I use stuff because it's cool >:3

<prime:heyadora.com> Making a giant successful store with easy crypto payments would be so cool owo

<fungible.:matrix.org> sounds awesome tbh

<fungible.:matrix.org> its so hard to get businesses to start accepting that crypto thing tho, like, i been involved in my local communities here and there, like asking restaurants if they would accept that crypto thing but alot of the time is just, they dont see it as an alternative currency but just a way for cryptobros to become rich quick type thing, which is pretty sad tbh

<prime:heyadora.com> @fungible.:matrix.org: Lol ye, crypto has such bad taste for a lot of people xD

Yeah, the fact that reputation is so tainted is so horrible.

<fungible.:matrix.org> for online businesses tho, there's options that make it easy, payment processors and whatnot, i dont have the names right now but would look at things like shopinbit and things like that, what they're using and having an integration like that i guess

<fungible.:matrix.org> then just complying the same way as they do, reporting sales and whatnot type thing

apparently some of the commercial processors make it pointless by requiring KYC third parties for processing crypto payments though.

Are there ones that allow that normally but still deal with the legal reporting and such?

<boriskernov:matrix.org> 32 > <BlueyHealer> I wonder just how hard it is to run an ETH validator now.

<boriskernov:matrix.org> @fungible.:matrix.org: Crypto not ready

<fungible.:matrix.org> @boriskernov:matrix.org: what would make Crypto ready in your opinion? i think it was ready, but people just went the other way with the nfts, the pumps and dumps and rugpulls or whatever those even are lol

I'm just mad they stained the reputation for legitimate use.

<fungible.:matrix.org> right :/

<boriskernov:matrix.org> @fungible.:matrix.org: Quantum proof, easy ux, very low fees, real privacy without weak ring ct, and possibility to use without internet

<fungible.:matrix.org> Grease L2 can be used without internet right?

<boriskernov:matrix.org> Dont know if possible

Possibility to use without internet? Why? The only way i see it happening is face-to-face, and there you have cash.

<boriskernov:matrix.org> BlueyHealer: In war internet go out and if dont want reliance on government cash is not option

<prime:heyadora.com> BlueyHealer: I work in a store, cash is horrible xD i hate counting it

<fungible.:matrix.org> redlib.catsarch.com/r/Monero/commen…awv/grease_turns_out_l2_can_be_cool

<fungible.:matrix.org> github.com/grease-xmr/grease

<fungible.:matrix.org> (for offline payments at things like events and whatnot)

That sounds farfetched. If SHTF, barter is way more likely and practical than anything electronic.

<boriskernov:matrix.org> Not farfetched in happen to me

prime, still - I think it's the way IRL. Crypto shines when the business is not conducted face-to-face.

<fungible.:matrix.org> @prime:heyadora.com: am the opposite on that lol, literally cash all the way x)

boriskernov, oh, sorry to hear... I mean something so weird that normal cash is somehow not an option.

<boriskernov:matrix.org> Bitcoin have mesh network without internet

In such a situation, it would be better to pay with something that does not rely on frail enectronics and, y'know, having power to charge your device.

<fungible.:matrix.org> o7 lochamesh

<fungible.:matrix.org> github.com/btcven/locha

Cool!

<prime:heyadora.com> @fungible.:matrix.org: Try counting it 1000 times a day xD it's so annoying. Absolute pain. They buy like one candy with 200eur bill, scream at my face for counting too slowly, etc etc

<hooftly:matrix.org> This still needs internet

<boriskernov:matrix.org> @fungible.:matrix.org: Monero support it

<hooftly:matrix.org> You cant boadcast a TX without it touching the internet eventually

<prime:heyadora.com> Meanwhile others just touch with their debit card and go away owo perfect customer xD

<boriskernov:matrix.org> @hooftly:matrix.org: For me this fine

prime, eww, indeed. That's why it's satisfying for me to carry small change) I know cashers appreciate it when you pay exact.

<prime:heyadora.com> Cake wallet needs offline payments owo

YES

<fungible.:matrix.org> oooh true O_O

<fungible.:matrix.org> pog idea tbh

I am just sorry to hear about this happening to you... But I don't understand how internetless crypto would be better in such a situation than cash?

<boriskernov:matrix.org> BlueyHealer: Ruble devalue before and some accept usd in cash. I dont like using usd. Other use ton because telegram popular

<boriskernov:matrix.org> Crypto hold value

<prime:heyadora.com> BlueyHealer: Saves me the trouble of counting cash xD also imagine like refilling phone with 20 eur worth of crypto, so you wouldn't need to pull the entire fortune to a phone that might get lost xd

<fungible.:matrix.org> you could refill your phone in monero already tho :P

<hooftly:matrix.org> Internetless crypto does not work. Even locah mesh needs to connect to the internet eventually to propagate whatever transaction you sent "offline"

<prime:heyadora.com> @fungible.:matrix.org: Hmmmm

boriskernov, ah! Yeah, we're living through the same thing lol.

<boriskernov:matrix.org> @hooftly:matrix.org: For me this fine because internet blackout for days and come back

I'm surprised to see someone actually uses Ton?

<fungible.:matrix.org> @hooftly:matrix.org: that makes senses tbh, i personally dont really have a "need" for interneless crypto, since cash already doing great at that, cool shits tho i guess if is doable lol

Oh sorry didn't mean to word it like that... I mean the same thing affecting our finances. I am so sorry for sounding like this.

<hooftly:matrix.org> All I am trying to say is anyone who tells you that crypto can work without the internet is full of shit haha

hooftly, yeah, that's my issue with that too. That's why I like cash. Still would be very nice to have this feature because, say, here only the mobile internet is in blackout while wired connections work.

<fungible.:matrix.org> @prime:heyadora.com: oh i guess i missread you, i guess you might have been refering to "having to buy a whole phone with esim support just for that"

<fungible.:matrix.org> which those services that work with monero are through esim

<prime:heyadora.com> @fungible.:matrix.org: Nah, meant people lose phones xD I've heard someone pulled like millions of bitcoin to USB drive and then lost it somewhere xd

<fungible.:matrix.org> right, make backups!

<fungible.:matrix.org> literally a piece of paper can be a backup

<prime:heyadora.com> Imagine going to a retail store, opening cake wallet to pay for the stuff xD

<fungible.:matrix.org> github.com/moneromooo-monero/monero-wallet-generator

<prime:heyadora.com> Make this happen

<prime:heyadora.com> @fungible.:matrix.org: I have zero monero in my wallet xD

<boriskernov:matrix.org> > <@fungible.:matrix.org> its so hard to get businesses to start accepting that crypto thing tho, like, i been involved in my local communities here and there, like asking restaurants if they would accept that crypto thing but alot of the time is just, they dont see it as an alternative currency but just a way for cryptobros to become rich quick type thing, which is pretty sad tbh

<boriskernov:matrix.org> It only get worser with crash

<fungible.:matrix.org> well start accepting it, u might get some x)

<boriskernov:matrix.org> Bitcoin big crash make people avoid for long time

I prefer the money that just doesn't leave a record - Monero, or any other similar tech could have some flaws that eventually allow correlation.

<boriskernov:matrix.org> When it happen in future

Yeah

Also heard that even some of "We accept BTC!" signs are through third-parties as I mentioned.

<boriskernov:matrix.org> BlueyHealer: Monero is blockchain leave record for quantum to crack. It has to be quantum proof

<fungible.:matrix.org> i mean, isnt it kinda a thing already tho?

<fungible.:matrix.org> like, i can go to grocerie store and get food through cakewallet already

<hooftly:matrix.org> @boriskernov:matrix.org: PQC is being worked on/reaearched

<boriskernov:matrix.org> @hooftly:matrix.org: I believe when I see it on Monero

<boriskernov:matrix.org> Store now and decrypt later

<fungible.:matrix.org> fcmp++ already does have some quantum resistance features tho? not quantum proof but that's a start no?

<hooftly:matrix.org> monero-project/research-lab #151

<boriskernov:matrix.org> @fungible.:matrix.org: Forward secrecy not enough. Monero use cryptographic ecdsa with FCMP++. not quantum proof

<boriskernov:matrix.org> If you show address before post quantum upgrade it can crack by quantum computer still

<prime:heyadora.com> @fungible.:matrix.org: What store owo

<boriskernov:matrix.org> @prime:heyadora.com: Switzerland

<fungible.:matrix.org> well not directly the store but giftcards accepted by the stores which can be bought directly within cakewallet

<fungible.:matrix.org> also yea, switerland, SPAR which is in 48 countries but only switzerland for now

<prime:heyadora.com> How would I exchange it back to EUR xD > <@fungible.:matrix.org> well start accepting it, u might get some x)

<fungible.:matrix.org> retoswap

<fungible.:matrix.org> setup a PO box

<hooftly:matrix.org> @boriskernov:matrix.org: Everyone acknowkedges this. Its not like its being ignores like BTC is ignoring it

<boriskernov:matrix.org> Retoswap with ATM code is the best

<boriskernov:matrix.org> No meet and no delivery you can get EUR for XMR

<fungible.:matrix.org> oh right no nvm, u no likey cash lol

<prime:heyadora.com> @boriskernov:matrix.org: Interesting owo they have stores that accept crypto?

<fungible.:matrix.org> can do bank transfers there tho

<fungible.:matrix.org> SPAR supermarkets yea

<fungible.:matrix.org> their integrations is through dfx.swiss which been having monero support

hooftly, yeah, but I mean not just that - flaws in general that are unknown at the time.

<fungible.:matrix.org> which is also integrated in cakewallet

<fungible.:matrix.org> @boriskernov:matrix.org: that was the best way in localmonero iirc, is that a thing in haveno tho?

Maybe I've not been looking closely enough, but it seems like ATM codes are just not a thing here. There are roundabout ways to transfer via ATM, but I don't think I've seen a place accept that on Localmonero. Not looked at Reto yet, but apparently not a lot of local offers.

I've also looked at Bestchange, there are even cash options... But all for ridiculously huge sums, not anywhere close to like $40.

<fungible.:matrix.org> tried looking for it as well, but i remember it was popular in latin american countries (ATM codes)

Does Retoswap work with bridges btw?

<prime:heyadora.com> Interesting lol > <@fungible.:matrix.org> SPAR supermarkets yea

<fungible.:matrix.org> wdym by bridges? it routes traffic through teh tor network, not sure if that's what you're refering to

I mean Tor is blocked directly, so one would need a bridge for that.

I just know some software insists on using its own Tor process instead of system one, and that one is not guaranteed to support bridges.

<fungible.:matrix.org> does vpn work? if so you could have it nested that way

I mean if you don't have one.

<fungible.:matrix.org> but yea idk, maybe it does have bridges, i really have no idea, sowry

Also, often see it not recommended - is it just because it's not an extra protection, or there is some weird nuance if used like this?

<fungible.:matrix.org> i mean, it bundles the whole browser in the software so it should be able to imo

I guess one could use proxychains? Not all software is friends with that, though...

<fungible.:matrix.org> i literally never was able to get a proper answer on that tbh lol

<fungible.:matrix.org> vpn or no vpn with it, no idea lol

<fungible.:matrix.org> but there's a lot of debate around that

I was specifically thinking about situation where bridges are not desirable. Yeah, still figuring that out.

(not desirable or not working)

<fungible.:matrix.org> either way, it doesnt go out to exit nodes anyways, it stays on the hidden service layer thing

<prime:heyadora.com> I'm currently at work, so hard to chat xD

<fungible.:matrix.org> feel free to stop by anytime when u got free time <3

<prime:heyadora.com> People buy mostly drugs btw, I sell to 1k people a day and 60%+ is just alcohol/cigarettes :V

<boriskernov:matrix.org> @fungible.:matrix.org: Because Tor honeypot many dont research Tor very lots of nodes from Germany and vulnerabilities github.com/Attacks-on-Tor/Attacks-on-Tor

<prime:heyadora.com> @fungible.:matrix.org: Is there off-topic room?

Example of "own Tor but no bridges" would be Briar.

<fungible.:matrix.org> there is, havent checked it yet but #monero-offtopic is a thing yea

fungible, I know, it doesn't matter in my question. What matters is being able to connect to Tor at all.

<boriskernov:matrix.org> Use i2p not Tor

<fungible.:matrix.org> ^

I love I2P too!

<hooftly:matrix.org> VPN with tor is fine. the argument is that by using a VPN you are fingerprinting yourself and giving up trust to the VPN. personally I use a VPN + tor because this effectively hides tor use from my ISP. > <BlueyHealer> Also, often see it not recommended - is it just because it's not an extra protection, or there is some weird nuance if used like this?

But from what I understand, attacks on Tor are not passive so it still fits for casual browsing I use it for. And Germany and others would not cooperate with my country's LE as well as they would with US and such anyway...

You are giving trust - but does that diminish Tor's value?.. The main reason is not trust and such, but the ability to connect to Tor at all.

<boriskernov:matrix.org> @hooftly:matrix.org: Tor broken they dont need to contact ISP

I have not seen evidence that it is broken in a way a proxy would - with passive deanon.

<boriskernov:matrix.org> Intelligence agencies rent nodes cheaply from EU companies and break network only 8,000 nodes for millions of users

<hooftly:matrix.org> Lolol

<boriskernov:matrix.org> @hooftly:matrix.org: If use Tor look at circuit

<hooftly:matrix.org> Intelligence agencies use tor to communicate abroad safely its why it was invented by the navy in the first place

<boriskernov:matrix.org> Germany will be

<fungible.:matrix.org> @hooftly:matrix.org: u did mention germany early which i been very sus about for few years now, is not just tor nodes they have a fuck ton of them but also bitcoin/ethereum nodes, imo their gov been in cahoots with the US for awhile now but that would be for :tinfoil: talks type shit lol

<hooftly:matrix.org> Everything is being recorded and tracked everywhere thats not fantasy.

<fungible.:matrix.org> right

<boriskernov:matrix.org> @hooftly:matrix.org: github.com/Attacks-on-Tor/Attacks-on-Tor

But Germany isn't even friends with my government...

<hooftly:matrix.org> Is it actionable data probably not yet

<boriskernov:matrix.org> Russia here banned Tor and intelligence agencies use other method to talk we dont know what...

Also from what I understand, for correlation attacks you would need time, and some exact identity (an account) to track.

boriskernov, banned yet still accessible.

<gan:skhron.org> Tor is a permissionless network, it's a miracle that it even works

<boriskernov:matrix.org> Have to use bridge

...which is super eas

<hooftly:matrix.org> Boris no one is saying it does not get attacked. But thst does not mean its inherently broken

<boriskernov:matrix.org> @hooftly:matrix.org: I2p why use Tor?

hooftly, yeah, that's the impression I got after reading about all such attacks.

<boriskernov:matrix.org> Not only attack the nodes are backdoored

<boriskernov:matrix.org> I remind you again check your circuit

<gan:skhron.org> Opennet bridges are getting blackholed often

<gan:skhron.org> also I host a bridge both over yggdrasil and i2p

<boriskernov:matrix.org> Germany or Netherlands 100%

i2p is not supposed to be used for browsing clearnet, even if it can. Also it is very slow. And not usable with all software.

<boriskernov:matrix.org> + Store and decrypt

gan, nice

<hooftly:matrix.org> No they arent lol

<hooftly:matrix.org> Show me code that shows its backdoored

<gan:skhron.org> @hooftly:matrix.org: Tor have pretty weak cryptography for its directories

<boriskernov:matrix.org> @hooftly:matrix.org: I said nodes

Directories? Would read about that.

<boriskernov:matrix.org> The biggest and smart darknet admin say use i2p ditch Tor

<hooftly:matrix.org> so you mean spy nodes? Thats not a backdoor

boriskernov, what admin?

<hooftly:matrix.org> @boriskernov:matrix.org: No one uses I2P for dnm

<boriskernov:matrix.org> BlueyHealer: HugBunter

<fungible.:matrix.org> @hooftly:matrix.org: youtube.com/watch?v=zp_qHcQQyz8 (use a privacy respecting youtube frontend)

<boriskernov:matrix.org> i2p force user to host node not accurate but since you forced to contribute no backdoor node

BTW I don't like Invidious links instead of YT ones because the instances take turns working and everyone prefers different ones.

<hooftly:matrix.org> Node operators arent hidden

<hooftly:matrix.org> Never were

<boriskernov:matrix.org> With Tor you trust Germany and NATO nodes

I also don't know whether being an I2P nide can put you in danger.

<fungible.:matrix.org> tldw: they can decrypt traffic on their own nodes already and forcing nodes operators to decrypt traffic for them, if they dont comply is jail time

Like, if you were used as a hop for someone sketchy - they arrested exit node operators, is this one safe?

<hooftly:matrix.org> im not saying its perfect but claiming its "broken" is false

<boriskernov:matrix.org> Not perfect = broken

<gan:skhron.org> spec.torproject.org/tor-spec/preliminaries.html

<gan:skhron.org> spec.torproject.org/dir-spec

<boriskernov:matrix.org> When life threatened like darknet admin or political person or intelligence agency have to be perfect sorry

<gan:skhron.org> usage of RSA1024 sounds questionable

<boriskernov:matrix.org> You can have Bitcoin privacy

<boriskernov:matrix.org> Not perfect)))

Not perfect =/= broken because it can still be fine for some threat models.

<hooftly:matrix.org> I2p isnt perfect lol

I have not seen evidence it works passively for one-off site visits.

<hooftly:matrix.org> This is a retarded convo

But I am not a DNM admin - am I also in the same danger?

<boriskernov:matrix.org> My english not great but Tor is not good for its purpose

<boriskernov:matrix.org> I2p is just perfect compared to Tor

<boriskernov:matrix.org> If you trust Tor...Russian government dont trust or use Tor...

<gan:skhron.org> operating nodes within an enclosed overlay networks, usually doesn't put you in danger in most developed countries > <BlueyHealer> I also don't know whether being an I2P nide can put you in danger.

<hooftly:matrix.org> No i2p is not haha

There are outproxies, but they aren't really the intention.

<hooftly:matrix.org> niether are "perfect"

yea

<gan:skhron.org> I2P works just fine either way

<boriskernov:matrix.org> hooftly say Tor used by Intelligence Agency basically say perfect because that highest threat model

<boriskernov:matrix.org> I'm sorry but Tor not perfect not what you say is true

gan, not sure our jurisdiction is similar enough in that regard, need to read more. Not seen much on that topic.mm

But what about a non-highest threat model? Like me.

<hooftly:matrix.org> @boriskernov:matrix.org: I literally said "its not perfect" the fuck?

<boriskernov:matrix.org> ???? > <@hooftly:matrix.org> Intelligence agencies use tor to communicate abroad safely its why it was invented by the navy in the first place

<gan:skhron.org> it still requires a lot of resources to identify the person, but permissionless overlay networks always will have issues as such

<boriskernov:matrix.org> Intelligence agency = like CIA = perfect highest threat model

<boriskernov:matrix.org> No they dont use Tor

<hooftly:matrix.org> this is a true fact so?

<boriskernov:matrix.org> No))))

<gan:skhron.org> @boriskernov:matrix.org: cia.gov have an onion on their website...

<hooftly:matrix.org> Like I said this is a retarded convo. You are making claims with no evidence saying trust me bro

<gan:skhron.org> and both FSB and FBI have reporting forms on onions too

But CIA is not hunting me specifically down - then what? Why are you talking edgecases?

<hooftly:matrix.org> Im not saying you cant be de anoned if you arent careful

<hooftly:matrix.org> And if you have nation states after you no network is savibg you

<boriskernov:matrix.org> I show all vulnerability, say Germany and NATO nodes, someone show FBI decrypt nodes, and many cases where Tor user get caught

<boriskernov:matrix.org> Where Russia and China node? Why ban?

<gan:skhron.org> also I'd recommend to provide citations for your statements, otherwise, it's probably just talking from one's ass

<boriskernov:matrix.org> @gan:skhron.org: Intelligence dont communicate using forms))))))

<boriskernov:matrix.org> Funny group

<hooftly:matrix.org> no they use bespoke software that uses tor to communicate

<hooftly:matrix.org> Fuck sakes

<boriskernov:matrix.org> @hooftly:matrix.org: Trust me bro I learn from you)))

The cases when users got caught usually involve something else though - like an outdated piece of software, or, easier, an OPSEC misstep.

<boriskernov:matrix.org> I provide citation

<hooftly:matrix.org> Or tracking BTC

<boriskernov:matrix.org> hooftly saying intelligence use it 'bespoke software"?

<hooftly:matrix.org> @boriskernov:matrix.org: You provided a link to known attacks

<boriskernov:matrix.org> Funny group))))

<boriskernov:matrix.org> I show all vulnerability, say Germany and NATO nodes, someone show FBI decrypt nodes, and many cases where Tor user get caught

<hooftly:matrix.org> Yes and so do cartels lol

<boriskernov:matrix.org> dan.me.uk/tornodes

<fungible.:matrix.org> apparently cartels are using stable coins or somethin, read that from antimoonboy i think lol

<boriskernov:matrix.org> metrics.torproject.org

<gan:skhron.org> There's nodes in both countries, Chinese internet is just too slow and unlike Russia have passive analysis for detecting tunneling traffic > <@boriskernov:matrix.org> Where Russia and China node? Why ban?

<hooftly:matrix.org> Node operators are not hidden whats your point? No one is saying node cebtralization and spy nodes arent an issue but opsec can help mitigate

<boriskernov:matrix.org> techradar.com/pro/security/german-a…-but-onion-heads-say-its-still-safe

<hooftly:matrix.org> No one should ever operate as if they are safe

<boriskernov:matrix.org> Safe)))

<boriskernov:matrix.org> @hooftly:matrix.org: Use i2p

<gan:skhron.org> e.g., metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#aggregate/ascc/country:ru

<hooftly:matrix.org> @boriskernov:matrix.org: in fact, using outdated software that exposed its identity to the police, The Register found

<hooftly:matrix.org> this is opsec for fuck sakes

<gan:skhron.org> nobody in a right state of mind would host nodes in an openly hostile country

<boriskernov:matrix.org> @gan:skhron.org: Probability select these node small, and if you only choose these node it risk

<gan:skhron.org> those operators are just playing the game to see when the selective system will pick on them

<boriskernov:matrix.org> Russia: 0.35%

<boriskernov:matrix.org> China: Find not

<boriskernov:matrix.org> Germany: 35.39%

<boriskernov:matrix.org> Netherlands: 14.70%

<hooftly:matrix.org> If tor is so broken and hugbunter is against tor as you say why is dread still an onion and not just an eepsite?

<boriskernov:matrix.org> 50% of node from Germany and Netherlands!!!!

<boriskernov:matrix.org> @hooftly:matrix.org: Why people use BTC still?

<boriskernov:matrix.org> It take time for migration

<hooftly:matrix.org> Becsuse they dont know better your claim is he does

<boriskernov:matrix.org> HugBunter is the smartest

<fungible.:matrix.org> germany i would consider malicious, are we certain that #2 also is malicious tho? i mean, they be smoking the weed in the netherland, legally, so maybe it's legit userbase? > <@boriskernov:matrix.org> 50% of node from Germany and Netherlands!!!!

<boriskernov:matrix.org> I trust him over "hooftly" still research no blind trust we have a saying I verify Tor not safe доверяй, но проверяй

<boriskernov:matrix.org> Trust but verify

<hooftly:matrix.org> Im not asking anyone to trust me

<hooftly:matrix.org> Im telling you to not blindly believe claims lmao

<boriskernov:matrix.org> @fungible.:matrix.org: Why use Tor? Because i2p works!!!!

<boriskernov:matrix.org> No make sense to use Tor i2p is safer...

<boriskernov:matrix.org> The discussion pointless

<fungible.:matrix.org> i dont use tor anyways, never have lol, only thing remote to that is just retoswap in my case

<gan:skhron.org> That because plainly hosting is cheap in Germany and Netherlands are known for being non-hostile to exit operators (i.e., they respect various forms of speech) > <@boriskernov:matrix.org> 50% of node from Germany and Netherlands!!!!

<gan:skhron.org> Skill issue, metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#aggregate/ascc/country:hk > <@boriskernov:matrix.org> Russia: 0.35%

<boriskernov:matrix.org> @fungible.:matrix.org: US + NL + DE = 58.25% of nodes. Very high probability NATO get you and store forever to decrypt)))

<boriskernov:matrix.org> What they say in Monero? host your own node! i2p let you host your own

<gan:skhron.org> it's even possible to get a snowflake located in CN, but the Chinese State usually block nodes faster anyway

<fungible.:matrix.org> either way my threat model just had to be upped over the years against unhinged creepy exes lol, but tbf, after seeing some feds around, they pretty much as creepy so... is not my threat model is perfect or whatever, i literally have nothing to hide, just to wanna have to deal with creeps is all, too much of them being feds tho :/

<gan:skhron.org> Before HK was given back to China, there used to be more nodes, from what I could remember

<fungible.:matrix.org> *just dont wanna have to

<boriskernov:matrix.org> My threat model KGB...

<boriskernov:matrix.org> = high

<fungible.:matrix.org> indeed, props to people having those crazy threat models, that's way above my paygrade tbh lol

<boriskernov:matrix.org> Always research diligently because xmr may seem perfect for someone oh "just attacks like hooftly" say when you dig deep you find effective ring signature small, eae, metadata, spy nodes, combine all and xmr not safe not perfect. Research!

<boriskernov:matrix.org> Tor is the same))

<hooftly:matrix.org> Not once did I say anything is perfect it even "attack" stop putting words in my mouth

<boriskernov:matrix.org> Умник

<hooftly:matrix.org> smart enough to fucking realize making blanket statements like x is y and providing atricles that say it was user error as evidence is not proof if anythinf

<boriskernov:matrix.org> i2p > Tor Хватит тянуть

<boriskernov:matrix.org> Stop being distractor

<hooftly:matrix.org> Maybe it is "better" does not mean tor is "broken" with proper opsec

<boriskernov:matrix.org> For average person who doesnt know maybe know what opsec mean i2p > Tor most people even high threat model...

<boriskernov:matrix.org> We need to build around i2p dont be slow snail

<fungible.:matrix.org> bounties.monero.social/posts/45/28-…-and-play-monero-marketplace-on-i2p

<hooftly:matrix.org> We need new governments and economic system, no anon network is going to save anyone the whole world is broken if we are going to talk truth

<boriskernov:matrix.org> @fungible.:matrix.org: All i2p bounty very high))

<boriskernov:matrix.org> @hooftly:matrix.org: "bespoke software' Придурок

<boriskernov:matrix.org> You still not tell me what

<hooftly:matrix.org> You know what bespoke means?

<hooftly:matrix.org> It means custom for fuck sakes

<hooftly:matrix.org> As in unreleased

<boriskernov:matrix.org> Special software?

<boriskernov:matrix.org> How do you know?

<boriskernov:matrix.org> "trust me bro")))))

<boriskernov:matrix.org> I show evidence finality: I2P >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tor

<hooftly:matrix.org> You didnt show evidence

<boriskernov:matrix.org> I2P support torrenting bonus not advised on Tor

<hooftly:matrix.org> You showed metrics and an article that says it was user opsec error

<boriskernov:matrix.org> @gan:skhron.org: Probabilites: 0.00% 0.01% 0.01% basically 0)))

<hooftly:matrix.org> If tor is so broken why does china need to block it

<hooftly:matrix.org> Just deanon it

<boriskernov:matrix.org> I argue I2P > Tor why still going? Трещотка > <@gan:skhron.org> That because plainly hosting is cheap in Germany and Netherlands are known for being non-hostile to exit operators (i.e., they respect various forms of speech)

<hooftly:matrix.org> Ez

<prime:heyadora.com> China owo

<gan:skhron.org> either way, while using overlays for XMR is relevant and on-topic, this convo is getting off-topic in certain places in my view

<boriskernov:matrix.org> @hooftly:matrix.org: Because it NATO tool. Why give free data to Americans and NATO? CCP need data)))

<prime:heyadora.com> Ceypto in china is probably a death sentence

<gan:skhron.org> so flamewars shall be continued in offtopic

<hooftly:matrix.org> Why do you keep throwing insults in cyrillic

<boriskernov:matrix.org> @prime:heyadora.com: ???????

<gan:skhron.org> @prime:heyadora.com: Not really, that depends

<boriskernov:matrix.org> HongKong crypto capital many company move there and friends

<boriskernov:matrix.org> @hooftly:matrix.org: I dont know good english equivalent english insult worse

<gan:skhron.org> de jura, it's illegal, but that doesn't stop anyone

<hooftly:matrix.org> yes you do you just are being a pussy about it

<boriskernov:matrix.org> Funny group

<prime:heyadora.com> @boriskernov:matrix.org: Strange, I thought freedom was banned there o.O

<hooftly:matrix.org> Right

<boriskernov:matrix.org> Ах ты умница

<gan:skhron.org> China as a whole have liberal places even within its border, like Shanghai

<boriskernov:matrix.org> @gan:skhron.org: Shanghai not liberal depend if you come as US tourist and live locally the police will spy on you happened to US tourist friend

<boriskernov:matrix.org> Taiwan and HK good

<boriskernov:matrix.org> Mainland China not good

<boriskernov:matrix.org> @boriskernov:matrix.org: They put bounty on him

<boriskernov:matrix.org> Like poster keep eye on this tourist

<boriskernov:matrix.org> (foreigner)

<0x000000000019d6689c085ae165831e934ff763ae46a2a6c172b3f1b60a8ce26f:matrix.org> i2p is not objectively better than tor > <@boriskernov:matrix.org> Why use Tor? Because i2p works!!!!

<0x000000000019d6689c085ae165831e934ff763ae46a2a6c172b3f1b60a8ce26f:matrix.org> especially when browsing the clearnet

<0x000000000019d6689c085ae165831e934ff763ae46a2a6c172b3f1b60a8ce26f:matrix.org> i2p torrenting is extremely slow. not viable for most users. have u even used i2p? > <@boriskernov:matrix.org> I2P support torrenting bonus not advised on Tor

<gan:skhron.org> I2P is okay-ish at times for bittorrenting, but IPv6-based overlays like Yggdrasil and Mycelium are certainly gonna be more faster

<gan:skhron.org> also, it's off-toipc

<0x000000000019d6689c085ae165831e934ff763ae46a2a6c172b3f1b60a8ce26f:matrix.org> no u don't if u did u wouldn't be posting here > <@boriskernov:matrix.org> My threat model KGB...

<0x000000000019d6689c085ae165831e934ff763ae46a2a6c172b3f1b60a8ce26f:matrix.org> @gan:skhron.org: eh better than spam. boris is fudding tor for no reason and i assume many monero users deal with tor

<0x000000000019d6689c085ae165831e934ff763ae46a2a6c172b3f1b60a8ce26f:matrix.org> tor remote nodes, retoswap, etc.

<0x000000000019d6689c085ae165831e934ff763ae46a2a6c172b3f1b60a8ce26f:matrix.org> recommended reading from a trustworthy source: geti2p.net/en/comparison/tor

<gan:skhron.org> @0x000000000019d6689c085ae165831e934ff763ae46a2a6c172b3f1b60a8ce26f:matrix.org: I meant that I2P discussion is off-topic, not the whole discussion regarding overlays, as you've said, people use Tor with Monero nodes

<gan:skhron.org> I2P is good enough for connecting with Monero nodes

<hooftly:matrix.org> Tor has its issues and bottom line is if a threat actor has enough resources and wants you they will probably get you unless you spend most your time in a cave with internet. Good Opsec is the best we can do.

<fungible.:matrix.org> good opsec and just dont get involved in doing dumb shits lol

<0x000000000019d6689c085ae165831e934ff763ae46a2a6c172b3f1b60a8ce26f:matrix.org> when tor first started it only had 12 nodes

<0x000000000019d6689c085ae165831e934ff763ae46a2a6c172b3f1b60a8ce26f:matrix.org> 8k nodes is not a small amount...

<0x000000000019d6689c085ae165831e934ff763ae46a2a6c172b3f1b60a8ce26f:matrix.org> from its inception

hooftly the biggest donors of tor are big brother and it's 3 letter agencies. Just check out their public donors list on their website.

Does anyone know why xmr jumped up so much in the last couple of days, more specific yesterday it had like a 33% increase out of no where.

<0x000000000019d6689c085ae165831e934ff763ae46a2a6c172b3f1b60a8ce26f:matrix.org> ax562: this never made sense to me. if the glowies are going to backdoor something, why would they advertise themselves doing it?

<fungible.:matrix.org> idk, theatrics bullshits i guess, then moonboys wanting ngu doing their thing smh

<fungible.:matrix.org> like, what was even accomplished with that? just noise

<fungible.:matrix.org> still no actual adoption on the markets that could

Why not? It's all a game to the dic's (demons in charge).

<0x000000000019d6689c085ae165831e934ff763ae46a2a6c172b3f1b60a8ce26f:matrix.org> @0x000000000019d6689c085ae165831e934ff763ae46a2a6c172b3f1b60a8ce26f:matrix.org: the reason the us navy open sourced tor is that the node operators need to be diverse for the network to work. if all node operators were in the us, for example, it wouldn't work

Great! Trust the g0v!

<0x000000000019d6689c085ae165831e934ff763ae46a2a6c172b3f1b60a8ce26f:matrix.org> s/us/us navy

<fungible.:matrix.org> dont trust, verify

<fungible.:matrix.org> saw some videos from sam bent that being like there are shits happening within the tor project in itself

<fungible.:matrix.org> the code is opensource

<fungible.:matrix.org> is not cause this or that entity made it, the code is still opensource

<fungible.:matrix.org> but sus shits been happening on that dev side of that ecosystem too

<0x000000000019d6689c085ae165831e934ff763ae46a2a6c172b3f1b60a8ce26f:matrix.org> sam bent is a bullshitter

<0x000000000019d6689c085ae165831e934ff763ae46a2a6c172b3f1b60a8ce26f:matrix.org> doesn't know what he's talking about

<hooftly:matrix.org> its because they actually use it for operations as well > <ax562> hooftly the biggest donors of tor are big brother and it's 3 letter agencies. Just check out their public donors list on their website.

<fungible.:matrix.org> tbf not many people do, the more educational content the better either way

<fungible.:matrix.org> then the standards would get better overtime, instead of more brainrotted overtime..

<hooftly:matrix.org> But im an asshole for saying so

<0x000000000019d6689c085ae165831e934ff763ae46a2a6c172b3f1b60a8ce26f:matrix.org> ax562: who created the internet bozo?

<0x000000000019d6689c085ae165831e934ff763ae46a2a6c172b3f1b60a8ce26f:matrix.org> who sets the crypto standards followed by cryptographers (including monero cryptographers like tevador)? i think you'll be in for a surprise

I remember when I was in grade school, if I didn't agree with someone, I would start by calling them names. :)

<0x000000000019d6689c085ae165831e934ff763ae46a2a6c172b3f1b60a8ce26f:matrix.org> i've dealt with the conspiracy nut types before. they never listen to me o.O

<fungible.:matrix.org> ax562: that's the easy attack vector on someone, calling them fat, the n word or whatever, but those attack vectors can go so much deeper O_O

You know it all, you are a gOD. ;)

<0x000000000019d6689c085ae165831e934ff763ae46a2a6c172b3f1b60a8ce26f:matrix.org> juliu?

<0x000000000019d6689c085ae165831e934ff763ae46a2a6c172b3f1b60a8ce26f:matrix.org> i thought u were banned bro

<hooftly:matrix.org> 🤔

<0x000000000019d6689c085ae165831e934ff763ae46a2a6c172b3f1b60a8ce26f:matrix.org> juliu is the only nutcase to try this

<fungible.:matrix.org> try what?

<0x000000000019d6689c085ae165831e934ff763ae46a2a6c172b3f1b60a8ce26f:matrix.org> conspiracy behind everything

<0x000000000019d6689c085ae165831e934ff763ae46a2a6c172b3f1b60a8ce26f:matrix.org> type of talk

<fungible.:matrix.org> tbh those chats just way too :tinfoil: sometimes lol

<hooftly:matrix.org> No one should trust the Government. Trust the code and standards set by experts

The sheep are so brainwashed that whenever anyone states anything they do not agree with, name calling then, CONSPIRACY THEORY!!! AAHHHHHH.

<0x000000000019d6689c085ae165831e934ff763ae46a2a6c172b3f1b60a8ce26f:matrix.org> @fungible.:matrix.org: we're all the same sockpuppets at the end of the day

Dude needs a hug.

<0x000000000019d6689c085ae165831e934ff763ae46a2a6c172b3f1b60a8ce26f:matrix.org> everyone is ofrnxmr

<hooftly:matrix.org> ax562: Thats not what this is

<fungible.:matrix.org> @0x000000000019d6689c085ae165831e934ff763ae46a2a6c172b3f1b60a8ce26f:matrix.org: true fungibility, we're all white american men x)

<fungible.:matrix.org> like videogamers, 100% all white american men

bozo -> nutcase -> conspiracy theory!!!

<0x000000000019d6689c085ae165831e934ff763ae46a2a6c172b3f1b60a8ce26f:matrix.org> ax562: sure kiddo go cover your devices with a faraday cage and take some pills

You miss your clot shot bro?

<0x000000000019d6689c085ae165831e934ff763ae46a2a6c172b3f1b60a8ce26f:matrix.org> next up is calling me a glowie

imagine constantly needing a new name to post here when you already have one

<0x000000000019d6689c085ae165831e934ff763ae46a2a6c172b3f1b60a8ce26f:matrix.org> these nutcases are predictable

probably time for another.

<0x000000000019d6689c085ae165831e934ff763ae46a2a6c172b3f1b60a8ce26f:matrix.org> ax562: vaccine denier? real smart dude

<0x000000000019d6689c085ae165831e934ff763ae46a2a6c172b3f1b60a8ce26f:matrix.org> moon landing fake?

<0x000000000019d6689c085ae165831e934ff763ae46a2a6c172b3f1b60a8ce26f:matrix.org> earth is flat?

<0x000000000019d6689c085ae165831e934ff763ae46a2a6c172b3f1b60a8ce26f:matrix.org> never trust the government bro. never trust the code

<ocean:nope.chat> nioc: yeah it's dumb

<0x000000000019d6689c085ae165831e934ff763ae46a2a6c172b3f1b60a8ce26f:matrix.org> nioc: what is my original account?

<0x000000000019d6689c085ae165831e934ff763ae46a2a6c172b3f1b60a8ce26f:matrix.org> we're all rings here

<0x000000000019d6689c085ae165831e934ff763ae46a2a6c172b3f1b60a8ce26f:matrix.org> i'm one of n rings. how do u know who i really am?

lol, It's so obvious at this point. Wait for it my man. :)

<0x000000000019d6689c085ae165831e934ff763ae46a2a6c172b3f1b60a8ce26f:matrix.org> ax562: i wish i had your viewpoints the world would be so much more fun

ahhhhhh, you must agree with everything I say or I will call you names...ahhhhh!

wait for it.

<0x000000000019d6689c085ae165831e934ff763ae46a2a6c172b3f1b60a8ce26f:matrix.org> nioc how's the cat?

<0x000000000019d6689c085ae165831e934ff763ae46a2a6c172b3f1b60a8ce26f:matrix.org> lmk in #monero-offtopic:monero.social

<fungible.:matrix.org> brainfried

<fungible.:matrix.org> too much psyoping the psyops, brain cant handle that shit

<0x000000000019d6689c085ae165831e934ff763ae46a2a6c172b3f1b60a8ce26f:matrix.org> this is a honeypot

<hooftly:matrix.org> Reminds me of this dude crappy rules lol

<hooftly:matrix.org> Probably is him

<gan:skhron.org> clearly a mossad agent 🧌

<fungible.:matrix.org> :tinfoil:

<gan:skhron.org> Aluminum hat stays on

<fungible.:matrix.org> dang.. well, was enjoying the discussions.. saj..

<ilha:matrix.org> What's the current estimate of percent of XMR hashrate controlled by Qubic?

<elongated:matrix.org> @ilha:matrix.org: 98

<elongated:matrix.org> Oh 0.98

<fungible.:matrix.org> miningpoolstats.stream/monero

<fungible.:matrix.org> hasnt been accurate with fake numbers before but doesnt seem bad at the moment

<ilha:matrix.org> Is qubic.org still doing selfish mining? Have they been able to do any large reorgs to the blockchain recently?

no and therefore no

<ilha:matrix.org> So qubic.org is now just doing normal mining and is a positive for Monero mining and helping to secure the blockchain? Is that right?

<gingeropolous> thats one way of putting it

Positive less so

Their blocks don't include many transactions that benefit the users, due to their subpar mining

They also keep breaking down and getting miners stuck mining useless work

<gingeropolous> i assume the big miner must have moved back to supportxmr

<ilha:matrix.org> So Qubic is not doing normal mining but currently they are not as strong of a threat as they were a while back. Is that fair to say?

<albertlarsan68:albertlarsan.fr> They are "just" a buggy pool FWIU

<gingeropolous> id say its unknown how strong of a threat they are because its unknown how much HR they are willing to spin up

<ilha:matrix.org> Regarding the price runup in the past day or 2, were there any particular catalysts or was it just a random pump as is so often seen with digital assets?

<gingeropolous> dunno. seems like market cycling

<fungible.:matrix.org> few weeks ago i remember doug asking his guests on the podcast if they tought the increase in price of zcash would also eventually flow into monero as well, guest was like "nah, aintnoway"

<fungible.:matrix.org> but that does seem to make the most sense for now, they're considered a privacy coin too so.. people diversifying their portfolios i guess

<minecraft:envs.net> @albertlarsan68:albertlarsan.fr: hi Anicet OTT-FLO

<minecraft:envs.net> @gan:skhron.org: dont be antisemitic

<gan:skhron.org> @minecraft:envs.net: Don't like the usage of that term, Palestinians are Semitic people too

<minecraft:envs.net> 🤣

<minecraft:envs.net> dirty rats belong in the sewer

<minecraft:envs.net> u fell for hamas propaganda. offtopic room

<gan:skhron.org> And the agency of the state of Israel have little to do with the people that lives there

<fungible.:matrix.org> now that's just trolling for the sake of trolling... smh...

<fungible.:matrix.org> appreciate what u did the other day but what's the reason for today?

<minecraft:envs.net> @fungible.:matrix.org: yes

<fungible.:matrix.org> literally got hit with the:

<fungible.:matrix.org> media1.tenor.com/m/lJezv_Sk9P0AAAAd/yes-rick-and-morty.gif

<fungible.:matrix.org> icant x)

<minecraft:envs.net> mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/envs.net/4…dccf1a7c91081987869505430224896.png (image.png)

<minecraft:envs.net> spacekitty69420

<fungible.:matrix.org> fuck is this lmao

<minecraft:envs.net> 8A8HWvGp8d3Qf8Qn1ei97RXPJiQYodvBxLSaPbnLEKAZ2pjnAbmNLn59HNPKirrAmKTfNEfjbobdi33zV1CwDQ7qRLxiZvR

<minecraft:envs.net> github.com/rohanrhu

<minecraft:envs.net> Oğuzhan Eroğlu

<fungible.:matrix.org> smh lol

<minecraft:envs.net> good to have u back

<fungible.:matrix.org> tyty likewise <3

<fungible.:matrix.org> LaurieWired on youtube pretty pog too tbh

<gan:skhron.org> 🧠🪛

<fungible.:matrix.org> dont give too much credit to the guys, they not deserving for the most part

<minecraft:envs.net> why did u give the view key

<minecraft:envs.net> made our job easier :>

<fungible.:matrix.org> which view key?

<minecraft:envs.net> he knows

<fungible.:matrix.org> oh x)

<minecraft:envs.net> fungible we can be friends x)

<fungible.:matrix.org> am good thx, literally just too busy with life shits lol

<minecraft:envs.net> recent customers annoying?

<fungible.:matrix.org> nah, just got settled, got doggos, enjoying life, even basic shits like just setting up rig for mining is too much effort nowadays T_T

<minecraft:envs.net> spacekitty!

<fungible.:matrix.org> :3

<minecraft:envs.net> everyone thinks we're crazy :3

<fungible.:matrix.org> yall kinda are tho ngl LOL

<fungible.:matrix.org> anyways, next level shits out there so props and glad to have you around in the community <3

<minecraft:envs.net> agreed!

<fungible.:matrix.org> aight be back later to lurk and whatnot probably

<fungible.:matrix.org> yall gotta behave tho! moderation in here is shit so... just behave lol

<fungible.:matrix.org> :*

<albertlarsan68:matrix.org> Hello,

<albertlarsan68:matrix.org> I am a French student looking for any Monero opportunities.

<albertlarsan68:matrix.org> I am a Rust member, my GitHub is github.com/AlbertLarsan68.

<albertlarsan68:matrix.org> I am open to any work related to software development.[... more lines follow, see mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/l5CqvMcKOTNVVk1X ]

<albertlarsan68:matrix.org> I like Fedora and I'm a developer based in Colmar (France). If any other developers are in the area and want to connect, feel free to send me a message or email!

<hbs:matrix.org> @albertlarsan68:matrix.org: Instead of waiting for a proposal which will likely not come out of the blue, look at monero related repos (cuprate, monero-oxide, ...) for issues to which you could contribute, that is probably the best way to start working on "Monero opportunities"

<albertlarsan68:albertlarsan.fr> @hbs:matrix.org: I did not send these messages, this is the work of someone else.

<hbs:matrix.org> @albertlarsan68:albertlarsan.fr: The advice is valid anyway :-)

<albertlarsan68:albertlarsan.fr> Yes, and I already know where to look for monero-related work.

hi guys, any idea why sweep_all won't actually move all my balance to another wallet? or am I misunderstanding what sweep_all is supposed to do?

chymera it should work. Do you see an error message? Resync wallet from 0 using a working node will fix it

Or are you asking about some dust left behind?

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Have to do index=all iirc

<fungible.:matrix.org> chymera: "is this extortion?" 😹

<fungible.:matrix.org> you gotta add the address after the "sweep_all":

<fungible.:matrix.org> sweep_all 8A8HWvGp8d3Qf8Qn1ei97RXPJiQYodvBxLSaPbnLEKAZ2pjnAbmNLn59HNPKirrAmKTfNEfjbobdi33zV1CwDQ7qRLxiZvR

<fungible.:matrix.org> like this

<fungible.:matrix.org> did a quick dono from hot wallet, broke af rn lmao, didnt check my dono address in literally years at this point, would take awhile to sync, will check some time later, peer to peer economy people!

<fungible.:matrix.org> gotta donate and shit u know lol

<fungible.:matrix.org> nop, still broke af lmao

<fungible.:matrix.org> viewkey: 01705b4806e6097fda6bd4264529b5ce16242ff4d8d96a294874e478b9606ced

<fungible.:matrix.org> address: 42oK1ttyF1nMK5T8u8RXmabV3wu48jrKh17k8XHANnwzLjoY5EsriXJNPLWDbQTNGUbUJETcJYxXT7uVqNtJs12sTqdwzCd

<fungible.:matrix.org> literally not a single donation.. damn...

<fungible.:matrix.org> well, back to enjoying life i guess x)

<fungible.:matrix.org> literally saw sgp and i was like damn, he gonna look into that whole blockchain history and shit O_O

<fungible.:matrix.org> but nvm x)

<fungible.:matrix.org> anyways, chill time, cya o/

Fungible no begging

<fungible.:matrix.org> wasnt begging, was literally being extorted by the spooky hackers lol

<fungible.:matrix.org> @prime:heyadora.com @boriskernov:matrix.org @minecraft (which i guess i just got scammed lol) @albertlarsan68:matrix.org [...] that been around today, just posted for the sake of transparency so i dont have to send more than what i already sent LOL

<prime:heyadora.com> What's going on in here xD

<prime:heyadora.com> Maybe we can get #monero-begging:monero.social

<gan:skhron.org> e-beggers of the world, unite!

<gan:skhron.org> 🧌

<fungible.:matrix.org> just chill lmao

<fungible.:matrix.org> jfc, literally cant take a fucking break LOL

<fungible.:matrix.org> we good no worries, dumbasses gonna dumbass

<fungible.:matrix.org> need a break tho.. like actually

<fungible.:matrix.org> yall fucking frying my brain too bad rn, icant with that shit x)

<ofrnxmr> @fungible.:matrix.org: You were banned - go continue your break

<fungible.:matrix.org> aight, well, imma cook some food then, hungy

<fungible.:matrix.org> just behave tho.. idk...

<fungible.:matrix.org> i meant e-beggers people yall gotta behave for real, being damn menaces out here for realz lol

<fungible.:matrix.org> o/

<eddie:oblak.be> Totally agree with this, libroot.org/posts/getmoneroorg-should-move-beyond-cloudflare . Even though there's nothing wrong with a little bit of cloudflare, more diversity is better for the internet.

<eddie:oblak.be> Also I pointed out a while ago is that the origin IPs of the server are leaked through sloppy email configuration..

<gan:skhron.org> @eddie:oblak.be: non-issue, their website is only informational and doesn't handle logins from what I'm aware

<gan:skhron.org> and also skill issue, as they offer an onion

<eddie:oblak.be> not a non issue

<eddie:oblak.be> repo. and ccs. are on the same servers

<gan:skhron.org> if so, that's an issue indeed

<eddie:oblak.be> and informational websites can also give away metadata, so the initial commentary of libroot still makes sense, imho

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Not the same server as www.getmonero.com

<gan:skhron.org> @eddie:oblak.be: doesn't matter if the website on a globalnet, the U.S already can spy on the backbone itself

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Docs.getmonero.org is also a different server

<eddie:oblak.be> ok, I was wrong then

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Most of the subdomains are hosted by other ppl

<eddie:oblak.be> I have nothing against cloudflare persé, but I do think that if you are a project that strives for better privacy , it would make sense to be consistent and try do diversify a bit

<gan:skhron.org> I don't see an issue with having purely informational site on CF for the moment, they have no history with replacing the pages, while they can, sure, they don't do it

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> its about stability and reliability, and cloudflare is a tradeoff to spending 10000/month of ddos and cdn

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @gan:skhron.org: All downloads are signed as well

<gan:skhron.org> and user truly concerned with privacy should use an overlay anyway

<gan:skhron.org> that'll be tor in that case

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> We have onions for www.gm And docs.gm well

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Repo / gitlab onion was/is a pita so its not done. Ccs.gm doesnt have an onion for w/e reason

<gan:skhron.org> it's easy to say that it's not needed and so on, until a person would have an experience with being DDOS'ed

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Gm has constant ddos issues

<gan:skhron.org> That being said, eddie probably know that I'm not exactly a fan of CF

<gan:skhron.org> and I see them as an extension of the PRISM program

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> None of us are

<prime:heyadora.com> What have you done to me xd

<prime:heyadora.com> mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/heyadora.c…4rUoYHqbJyapdnwo4DtQQCgDuJDz9XE.jpg (Screenshot_20251110_204359.jpg)

<prime:heyadora.com> I starred Monero repos and now Discord is making fun of me xD

<prime:heyadora.com> I don't even use Discord xD

<gan:skhron.org> @prime:heyadora.com: is cuprate even usable?

<fungible.:matrix.org> literally got ddos'ed yesterday lol

<fungible.:matrix.org> o7

<gan:skhron.org> eh, a WIP

<fungible.:matrix.org> nah

<fungible.:matrix.org> is work in progress

<redsh4de:matrix.org> @gan:skhron.org: i think it syncs the chain but no wallet RPC yet

<aillia:matrix.org> Calling all Monero creatives and critics! > <BlueyHealer> I wish xmrbazaar had an option to filter out AI slop though - the number of listings using it leaves a VERY gross impression. Especially their own banner, that's just sad.

<aillia:matrix.org> The XmrBazaar Banner Design Competition is LIVE: ditch the AI slop & unleash your vision :)

<aillia:matrix.org> Be the artist or the judge:

<aillia:matrix.org> xmrbazaar.com/forum/topic/120

cuprate is currently working on wallet RPC

this CCS is almost funded ccs.getmonero.org/funding-required

<eddie:oblak.be> I understand it from a pragmatic standpoint. Yet, it would be good if there are more "cloudflares", because it it is also becoming a source of centralization. > <@ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> its about stability and reliability, and cloudflare is a tradeoff to spending 10000/month of ddos and cdn

<gan:skhron.org> Sorry to say, but the internet itself is fairly centralized (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tier_1_network#List_of_Tier_1_networks)

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @gan:skhron.org i own my own decentralized undersea fiber

<gan:skhron.org> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: I hope so

<gan:skhron.org> Either way, average example of backbone spying: aclu.org/cases/wikimedia-v-nsa-challenge-upstream-surveillance, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upstream_collection

<kekzploit:matrix.org> evening all

<gan:skhron.org> Good <current time>