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DataHoarder
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DataHoarder
as fee, huh
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br-m
<ofrnxmr> Is it just me or is this redirecting to 127.0.0.1
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br-m
<ofrnxmr> Using tor btw
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DataHoarder
it works here
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DataHoarder
it also has a .onion available
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DataHoarder
added DoubleScalarMult + MultiScalarMult to Point implementation, which I assume will be useful :)
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sech1
ofrnxmr try a different browser agent (latest Chrome user agent would do) if you connect from tor
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puffybuf
why does watch only wallet show out transfers as in? and it has the wrong balance
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puffybuf
why give the wrong balance? just say unknown...
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puffybuf
I have to import_key_images to get the right balance to show
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br-m
<aillia:matrix.org> Happy RandomX Day!
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br-m
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Cindy_
always a ragebaiter in the replies
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Cindy_
twitter like always
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br-m
<aillia:matrix.org> ignore or mute
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Cindy_
puffybuf: because it's hard to figure out outgoing transfers in view-only wallets?
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Cindy_
this is a flaw of cryptonote's design (and something that carrot is planning to fix)
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Cindy_
for now, you have to import key images for any spending transactions
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puffybuf
well I'd like it to just say unknown, but it gives an incorrect balance delta
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Cindy_
if it says unknown, what's the point of having a view-only option
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Cindy_
it'll say unknown all the time
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Cindy_
having it say unknown when there's a out transfer requires it to KNOW that it's a outgoing transfer in the first place
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Cindy_
which is impossible
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Cindy_
otherwise i'm sure it would be able to deduct the amount from the balance if it did
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Cindy_
i think the transfer that shows up as incoming is the change output
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Cindy_
(when you send a transaction with a output bigger than the amount you want to send, monero will split it into 2 outputs. one going to the address you put in, and the other going back to yourself as change)
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br-m
<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @aillia:matrix.org: Ive beem doing the opposite this whole time π
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DataHoarder
puffybuf: it only knows incoming txs. when you make a transfer, you send change to yourself. that's also an incoming tx
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DataHoarder
you need to tell it which inputs have been spent by importing key images
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Cindy_
oh so i was right :o
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Laris
hello, may I please get a suggestion for some bulletproof hosting with monero as one of the payment methods
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Cindy_
bulletproof hosting?
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Cindy_
wtf does that mean
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br-m
<nthpyrodev:nthpyro.dev> laris: What do you mean by bullet proof? Unless you find something in Russia, most providers aren't going to prison for you
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br-m
<nthpyrodev:nthpyro.dev> Check out kycnot.me, but don't expect "bulletproof"
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Cindy_
most providers have their own rules
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Cindy_
also all VPSes have to abide by their own nation's laws
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BlueyHealer
Unless you find something in Russia <- How is it different there? The hosters there also seem strict.
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BlueyHealer
Like, I know that some of them go by MUCH less strict blocklists than regular ISPs, and some get away with things just because no one's looking... But honestly, don't know a lot about thw VPS scene.
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Cindy_
at the very least, datacenters in russia will turn a blind eye to pirated or copyrighted content
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br-m
<nthpyrodev:nthpyro.dev> I'm assuming he wants something bullet proof from the West, and I don't see Russia caring about markets, phishing, etc any time soon
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Cindy_
but anything super illegal, they will also not hesitate to take down your service
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BlueyHealer
Like, renting it or a domain KYCless would be illegal, but apparently there are resellers to get around that.
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BlueyHealer
Cindy_, yeah, fair. Although apparently some really big ones do respond to complaints.
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br-m
<nthpyrodev:nthpyro.dev> BlueyHealer: Realistically, it's a lot harder for the authorities to take down something if it's hosted in Russia. Apart from taking the person running it down, of course
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BlueyHealer
I mean for the authorities there.
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Cindy_
depends on the content you're hosting
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BlueyHealer
yea
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br-m
<nthpyrodev:nthpyro.dev> *Western authorities
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br-m
<nthpyrodev:nthpyro.dev> US or whatever
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BlueyHealer
I know 100% that paying for goods in crypto is illegal there. But I think there can be resellers.
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br-m
<nthpyrodev:nthpyro.dev> Cindy_: The average skid would be fine on hosting in russia
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br-m
<nthpyrodev:nthpyro.dev> which is the case here
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Cindy_
skid, yeah sure
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Cindy_
but pedos, go fuck yourself
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Cindy_
literally nobody will take you
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br-m
<nthpyrodev:nthpyro.dev> well the person originally asking the question is presumably a skid. Only skids say bulletproof really
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BlueyHealer
skid would be burnt elsewhere because they don't know what they're doing lol
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Cindy_
which is why i said "depends"
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Cindy_
and i really do hope they aren't a pedo
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BlueyHealer
good thing about criminals is that they do usually make mistakes)
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nioc
Sounds like people
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br-m
<victor5577:matrix.org> Guys I need 300 Monero for some personal stuff and a project, if interested please do DM me, scammers please do stay away and don't waste my time
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DataHoarder
I also need 300 monero
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Cindy_
i also need 300 monero
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Cindy_
it's for some personal stuff and a project too
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br-m
<aillia:matrix.org> I also need 300 monero
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Cindy_
get in the "i also need 300 monero" line
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Cindy_
it's pretty long
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nioc
I need 3000 monero
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br-m
<victor5577:matrix.org> Lol
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br-m
<victor5577:matrix.org> As expected
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nioc
glad that we met your expectations :)
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br-m
<victor5577:matrix.org> nioc: Nah mate you exceeded it lol
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br-m
<nthpyrodev:nthpyro.dev> Guys I really need 299 monero, please give me 299 monero dear sirs, its less than 300 moneros
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br-m
<victor5577:matrix.org> @nthpyrodev:nthpyro.dev: Pajeeeeeeeeet
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br-m
<victor5577:matrix.org> π€£
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br-m
<victor5577:matrix.org> Btw subaddress can generated on cake wallet right?
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br-m
<nthpyrodev:nthpyro.dev> Didn't say sars, or I'd get banned for racism or smthng
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br-m
<nthpyrodev:nthpyro.dev> @victor5577:matrix.org: yeah
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br-m
<victor5577:matrix.org> I didn't understand the difference, subaddress can't be traced?
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br-m
<victor5577:matrix.org> It starts with 8 right?
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br-m
<nthpyrodev:nthpyro.dev> yes
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br-m
<nthpyrodev:nthpyro.dev> primary starts with 4
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br-m
<victor5577:matrix.org> Cool thanks
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br-m
<nthpyrodev:nthpyro.dev> Well they can't be traced to the extent that primary addresses can't be, afaik, someone correct me if I'm wrong
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br-m
<victor5577:matrix.org> Then why the difference? π
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br-m
<victor5577:matrix.org> Sorry if I'm over asking lol
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br-m
<nthpyrodev:nthpyro.dev> Outgoing transactions come from the primary address
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br-m
<nthpyrodev:nthpyro.dev> @victor5577:matrix.org: nw
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br-m
<nthpyrodev:nthpyro.dev> the purpose of this room is to discuss monero, so go for it
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br-m
<victor5577:matrix.org> @nthpyrodev:nthpyro.dev: Ohhhhhh now I got it, thanks
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br-m
<victor5577:matrix.org> I was actually looking out various privacy centered coins, like Zcash, Dash etc
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br-m
<victor5577:matrix.org> And came to the conclusion that none of them come even close to Monero
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br-m
<victor5577:matrix.org> Tell me if I'm wrong
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DataHoarder
17:40:43 <br-m> <victor5577:matrix.org> I didn't understand the difference, subaddress can't be traced?
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DataHoarder
it's not about tracing
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DataHoarder
it's not like zcash where different addresses have different methods
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DataHoarder
this is just a way to have different addresses land in same wallet. all addresses cannot be traced
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DataHoarder
main address is what originally existed, subaddresses encode information (and derive outputs) so they land in your wallet properly without having to create another wallet
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br-m
<nthpyrodev:nthpyro.dev> @victor5577:matrix.org: actually I may be incorrect abotu that
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DataHoarder
basically you give a different one per incoming tx
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DataHoarder
17:43:09 <br-m> <nthpyrodev:nthpyro.dev> Outgoing transactions come from the primary address
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DataHoarder
^ no
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br-m
<nthpyrodev:nthpyro.dev> right thanks for the correction
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nioc
you can give different addresses to different people/entities and the txs will end up in the same wallet
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DataHoarder
outgoing txs come from the one-time spend key that the output got derived
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DataHoarder
which is your wallet spend private key + an one-time private key (which is what the one-time pub is on chain)
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nioc
those people/entities can't collude to figure out how much you received
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DataHoarder
that being spend pub + output random pub = one-time pubkey
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DataHoarder
subaddresses allow that to exist while not giving the main address to everyone
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nioc
keep your main address private
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br-m
<victor5577:matrix.org> Thanks for the info everyone ππ»
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br-m
<victor5577:matrix.org> Is this group usually this silent?
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Cindy_
yes
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Cindy_
because when people have nothing to say... they stay quiet
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Cindy_
:OOOO
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br-m
<lostish:matrix.org> π
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br-m
<victor5577:matrix.org> Cindy_: Krazyyyyy
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br-m
<victor5577:matrix.org> Say something
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Cindy_
something
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br-m
<victor5577:matrix.org> Say I love you
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br-m
<victor5577:matrix.org> So y'all here are programmers?
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Cindy_
yes
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br-m
<lostish:matrix.org> ye
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br-m
<victor5577:matrix.org> Niceeeeeeeeeee
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br-m
<victor5577:matrix.org> What languages do y'all know?
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br-m
<lostish:matrix.org> know how? languages ββyou've studied or know by name?
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br-m
<bienzito:nope.chat> @victor5577:matrix.org: Nope
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br-m
<victor5577:matrix.org> @lostish:matrix.org: I mean the programming languages, like c++, Java, html etc
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br-m
<victor5577:matrix.org> @bienzito:nope.chat: Haha me too, I'm a sales guy lol
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nioc
I last programmed with AlgolW using punch cards
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br-m
<victor5577:matrix.org> nioc: I have zero idea about what that is π
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nioc
no reason why you should :D
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Cindy_
victor5577: i write m68k assembly, C/C++, rust, go, crystal, many others i think
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br-m
<victor5577:matrix.org> Cindy_: Wow genius, I know nothing about all these π€―
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DataHoarder
which ones do you know? what generalized one/what's your area?
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br-m
<victor5577:matrix.org> DataHoarder: I'm a complete sales guy, I'm trying to get into SaaS