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<lza_menace> looks great, thanks. i did a quick scan but couldn't find out which LWS implementation would be supported with this. does the one by vtnerd work here? > <@sgp_>
reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/1p5kqz…ing_skylight_wallet_a_modern_monero
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<sgp_> Yup that's the one I use!
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<lza_menace> great. are subaddresses/subaccounts supported? i recall that was one limitation when I was last tinkering with LWS a couple years ago
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<lza_menace> there might be some bounties bounties.monero.social that would be resolved as a result of this
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<lza_menace> nvm, @plowsof:monero.social on the case :)
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hm
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<vtnerd> @lza_menace:monero.social: subaddresses do work now, but restoring a wallet with subaddresses needs improvement which is ongoing
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<lza_menace> cool, thanks lc
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<vtnerd> Restoring will work in most cases, but improvements to the lookahead and error reporting need to be done
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<lza_menace> @sgp_:monero.social would appreciate your take on this - what do you think? chain analysis doing their thing?
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<vtnerd> You will have to manually enable subaddresses on lws btw, it's off by default currently
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<lza_menace> @vtnerd: i'll kick the rust off the old prototype project i had
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<sgp_> I'm a little surprised to see I2P nodes spammed specifically
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<sgp_> I don't know why so many are being added
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<gingeropolous> because they are free to make
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<ravfx:xmr.mx> I know that my I2P connection for my node seam to be the slower when I test them. It sync a LOT faster using Tor or "clearnet thru Tor"
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<ravfx:xmr.mx> (I did set my feather custom node with only my cleanet, tor and i2p nodes... When it connect thru an I2P node, I know...)
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<ravfx:xmr.mx> Without even looking
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<lza_menace> plowsof: yeah, so many nodes now, i need to refactor the map rendering now, it's really slow again
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<ravfx:xmr.mx> XMR mentionned
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<ravfx:xmr.mx> [SomeOrdinaryGamers]
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<lza_menace> so far so good (lws + skylight wallet testing)
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<ajs_:matrix.org> @lza_menace:monero.social: nice lws ui
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<ajs_:matrix.org> is it up on github somewhere?
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<ravfx:xmr.mx> It's an application or some web thing?
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<ravfx:xmr.mx> Chat control again
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<ravfx:xmr.mx> It's so good that the admins are exampts from the scam, it's only for the pions
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<lostish:matrix.org> @ravfx:xmr.mx: I no longer have faith that it will be fixed; a lot has happened, and they remain insistent. I wonder if they will take action against users who use other, unregulated social networks or platforms—will they break into their homes and arrest them for using Session, SimpleXChat, or others? Seriously, I can [... too long, see
mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/1se8ks4KVGFBaHRx ]
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I bet the most likely enforcement scenario would be a whack-a-mole. So I guess an admin of their own server would be fine as long as they're not the lowest-hanging fruit.
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<lostish:matrix.org> Dark times are approaching.
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<lza_menace> @ajs_:matrix.org:
github.com/lalanza808/lwsadmin
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<victor5577:matrix.org> @lostish:matrix.org: How would they know if someone's using session or simplex
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BlueyHealer
The common chat protocols do use recognizable ports by default, but you can change that, and I have no idea whether the encrypted traffic to such a server stands out if it's on 443.
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BlueyHealer
Although if you're running your server, the servers you are federated with are expecting you to use certain ports for federating with them, so that sticks out for sure...
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(about federation - thinking about XMPP/Matrix, Simplex works differently and I don't know wnough about it).
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<gentlemoose:matrix.org> @ravfx:xmr.mx: I'm very sorry it took me so long to open my eyes and now I have to simultaneously learn networking, Linux and the whole range of stuff related to privacy and anonymity from tor to pgp at a rapid pace.. But now I'm all in. As an Intj with core motivation of survival, knowledge and independence - freedom of thought, movement, money and identity is everything.
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BlueyHealer
intj?
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<gentlemoose:matrix.org> Mbti personalities. Long topic for another chat
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BlueyHealer
lol it's as if you're halfway towards speaking a made-up language)
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<gentlemoose:matrix.org> I've read session used dynamic ports from 49152 to 65535 but after trying it for a month, it is somewhat unreliable to receive a message. Briar has static tor ports but haven't tested much. > <BlueyHealer> The common chat protocols do use recognizable ports by default, but you can change that, and I have no idea whether the encrypted traffic to such a server stands out if it's on 443.
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BlueyHealer
I don't hink about Session a lot because it's effectively impossible for an individual to host a node.
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I know this sounds as a stupid "what if", but random ports remind me of torrenting, I wonder id a chat service could mimic that
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<gentlemoose:matrix.org> I'm not exactly sure how it works. It says that os assigns device as a client and gives a random port, then encrypts in layers and onion routes the msg and each layer is handled by a different node and each hop is via different port until it goes via the exit node.
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Simplex concerns me now with the semi-recent moderation proposals and now NFTs (in the year 2025 smh).
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And Session is weird because you need a gargantuan deposit to have a node.
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i want monero to have a cryptobro filter
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BlueyHealer
How so
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Cindy
so you wouldn't have too many "to the moon"s or useless concepts that reputationally bog down the currency
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BlueyHealer
Ah, you mean just block certain words in the chat.
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Cindy
BlueyHealer: did you receive my message?
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BlueyHealer
Which?
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BlueyHealer
If you mean the currwncy itself - I don't know how you'd include this broad of a concept within a protocol...
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Cindy
"so you wouldn't have too many "to the moon"s or useless concepts that reputationally bog down the currency"
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Cindy
i don't mean within the currency :P
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Cindy
i meant socially
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BlueyHealer
Ah, you just reacted to it like I misunderstood you))
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I feel like there is kind of this social pressure, but yeah, true, needs to be more
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<gentlemoose:matrix.org> Haven't dived in simplex but ai says briar as opposed to session, doesn't use dedicated nodes, just tor's volunteer run relays to obscure origin and destination (however it does that idk) and if offline creates mesh using "one hop" social mesh to autosync only with trusted contacts. > <BlueyHealer> And Session is weird because you need a gargantuan deposit to have a node.
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"ai says" is in no way a source tho
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But yeah, Briar does have no servers at all. In exchange both participants need to be online at the same time.
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<lostish:matrix.org> > <@gentlemoose:matrix.org> I'm very sorry it took me so long to open my eyes and now I have to simultaneously learn networking, Linux and the whole range of stuff related to privacy and anonymity from tor to pgp at a rapid pace.. But now I'm all in. As an Intj with core motivation of survival, knowledge and independence - freedom of thought, movement, money and identity is everything.
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<lostish:matrix.org> We have to pick up the pace.😮💨
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leonardus
I just installed the GUI wallet from GitHub. When it tries to start the local node, the status in the corner gets stuck at "Network status: Starting the node", and in the logs, it keeps repeating every five seconds: "Monero 'Fluorine Fermi' (v0.18.4.4-release) Error: Couldn't connect to daemon: 127.0.0.1:18081". Any ideas what could be going on here? I'm on Windows 11.
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leonardus
In Task Manager I can see monerod.exe, with a second monerod.exe appearing and disappearing every few seconds.
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plowsof
leonardus have you tried to mess with p2pool mining by any chance?
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plowsof
not normal that there is 2 instances of monerod running
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leonardus
plowsof: No, but I just found out the issue goes away when I remove the `--stagenet` flag in "Daemon startup flags". But I'd like to use the stagenet, if I can.
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plowsof
interesting
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plowsof
did you have a stagenet wallet open at the time (ie, yo ucould see stagenet near your balance)
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leonardus
I set up a wallet when I installed the GUI, which is the only wallet I have. I added the --stagenet flag later on
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plowsof
18081 is a mainnet port, stagenet monerod is launching due to the manual flag, but gui assumes mainnet, and sends all commands there, stagenet will be :38081, make sure you have opened a stagenet wallet
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plowsof
you must close the wallet, top left corner [<- , at home screen click advanced settings (bottom) and network, stagenet ->create new wallet
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plowsof
close all instances of monerod manually via task manager first.
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can follow up in #monero-support
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leonardus
Thanks