<zombie:catgirl.cloud> $XMR TO MOON 🚀

<angled:matrix.angled.rip> @zombie:catgirl.cloud: real

<angled:matrix.angled.rip> higher price higher security budget, literally everyone wins

<zombie:catgirl.cloud> All you need to do is buy and hold, or even consider doing Dollar-Cost Averaging (DCA).

<321bob321> Nioc confirm mooning ?

<ohchase:envs.net> This was a random thing that came to my head a couple years ago but I never took the time to share. I figure there is some rap fans in the monero community.

<ohchase:envs.net> But anyways in Lil Wayne's, "6 foot 7 foot" song which is vulgar but also an objectively a titan in hip hop word play, there is a bars, "real G's move in silence like lasagna" (read it over a couple times, takes a bit to understand) and whenever I hear it I can't help but think of monero lol

Is the title of the song referring to the meme? I see it referenced pretty frequently in my game's chat.

<ohchase:envs.net> Nah this came out in 2010 predates the 67 meme by 15 years

lol

<ohchase:envs.net> I don't make art, and didn't want to AI generate some slop but a monero logo dripping like lasagna with that bar could be a cool sunday reddit post, I'd need to check the subreddit's rules on when you can post troll stuff

Just don't post slop online okay? A lot of people are really grossed out and that greatly overshadows whatever point you would've wanted to make.

BTW unrelated but I love that Graphene's forums explicitly banned generated texts now with the sole exception of translations.

<ohchase:envs.net> BlueyHealer: 100% I was just sharing the idea, the thought is original I just don't have the talent to create the artwork organically

I'm sorry if i sound rude then but then it's either best to keep it to yourself, to sketch something basic or to start drawing more to improve yourself)

Crude sketches can be so charming. Like, one of the funniest videos I've seen is stickman drawings XD

<ohchase:envs.net> Nope all good, this was just me thought dumping, I am not going to post anything haha. More if some artist thought the idea was cool, could be cool to see them take a stab at making it (without ai)

))

BlueyHealer: i'm glad to see some backlash against unfettered slop

<ohchase:envs.net> sorry just to clarify I was just sharing my thought, (I'm vain) I had no intention to post AI slop please don't think I was encouraging that :(

it's okay!

i wasn't talking about you lol

you're fine

also btw, i never really used AI image generation

the last model i used was stable diffusion back when it was just a novelty lol

but i never used it for anything serious

<zombie:catgirl.cloud> Haha good one. > <@ohchase:envs.net> This was a random thing that came to my head a couple years ago but I never took the time to share. I figure there is some rap fans in the monero community.

<zombie:catgirl.cloud> Lmao AI is the future get over it. > <BlueyHealer> Just don't post slop online okay? A lot of people are really grossed out and that greatly overshadows whatever point you would've wanted to make.

of course there'd be slop ass-kissers here

<zombie:catgirl.cloud> I don’t even use AI.

<zombie:catgirl.cloud> It’s just common sense.

i use neural networks

<zombie:catgirl.cloud> It’s quite cringe to witness your reaction when someone casually mentions the idea of using AI.

i'm not actually against "AI", or what people are actually referring to, neural networks for certain tasks

i use it myself to detect NSFW stuff automatically

i'm against the massive generative models that just waste power to produce slop

while companies continue to feed more RAM and GPU into it

at the expense of others

This sounds like a troll. I am not engaging and feels like you shouldn't too. They're after the engagement.

<zombie:catgirl.cloud> Cindy: Yes, on that point, I somewhat agree with you.

i remember i was enthusiast about neural networks, when they were open (hah, get it OPENAI?)

<zombie:catgirl.cloud> BlueyHealer: You get “trolling” from a simple discussion?

like cool shit would have a long ass whitepaper describing every little bit about it: the specs of the model, what it can do over the previous attempts

and sometimes even source code

zombie, from the tone, rather

<zombie:catgirl.cloud> Cindy: Now those days was based.

now it's just giant black boxes

<zombie:catgirl.cloud> BlueyHealer: I apologize, but how can you discern the tone of a text?

giant black boxes that, you don't need to worry about how it works internally

<zombie:catgirl.cloud> Cindy: It could have been much better. I am left disappointed.

just eat up the slop, dummy. no thinking

<zombie:catgirl.cloud> Cindy: Just leads back to people and their nature of wanting things easy

zombie: this all started when "AI" research moved from universities and collaborative thinking to giant for-profit companies and competition

you can't collaborate with others if you wanna make profit

you have to have the BEST model

zombie, from words like "lmao it's the future get over it"

but it was never about the best, it was just about the fun of seeing it work

and the hard work that went into it

<hooftly:matrix.org> Sam altman used Alec Radford to get GPT-1 off the groubd and bait and switched. Do any of you even know who Radford is?

But yeah, seems like you're actually more civil than that.

do you think there's any potential profit from a GAN that can only generate realistic faces?

no, there's not. but it was done only for fun

Cindy, absolutely. Porn and fake news.

BlueyHealer: i'm talking about ThisPersonDoesNotExist

or what it uses underneath, StyleGAN

Very! That's one use of GenAI I can get behind - creating less suspicious avatars for when they're needed.

you can't make the model generate a specific face

it only generates whatever looks like a human face.. or the equivalent of the sims randomizer

<zombie:catgirl.cloud> Cindy, that quite a lot to think about. Thanks for sharing.

I prefer to have a meme there but if I wanted, say, some more "serious" account where it is unacceptable - yeah.

ThisPersonDoesNotExist is not profitable, but that wasn't the point

the point is to see a computer program literally generate a realistic human face on its own

Yeah. Doubles (I don't know how intentionally) as a statement for convincing online alt accounts.

and the site literally generates a image for you.. for free on their own servers too

no ads, or subscriptions or whatver bullshit

Yeah, that's nice.

but nowadays if you search up ThisPersonDoesNotExist, all you get in the search terms are a bunch of SEO-optimized clones running the same code but putting a giant watermark on it and charging 15 dollars for image generation

all above the real site

Oh, didn't know that!

because, dare i say, it's AI

and AI good right?

I assumed people switched to the more advanced mainstream models for this now...

point i'm making is that AI used to be just for shits and giggles, like for fun

until it became corporate and profit-driven

sure, AI was still used in serious contexts, but the generative stuff would just be for fun

i think the most they used it for was moderation or something

<ohchase:envs.net> This is my vibe with crypto in general also, desire for making money perverted crypto versus the desire for decentralized monero > <Cindy> point i'm making is that AI used to be just for shits and giggles, like for fun

be just for shits and giggles, like for fun <- I also despise when it's used for memes because memes are just so inherently human.

Cindy | i think the most they used it for was moderation or something <- Yeah, that sounds fair enough. As long as you can actually appeal that and not like on Youtube.

Also this would probably be able to recognize and "review" spammers!

0x0.st uses a NSFW detector model for example

to automatically flag porn

<gingeropolous> lol monero.fail monero.definitelynotafed.com:443

trustednode .net 😃

the new look is great

<ohchase:envs.net> yoooo new monero.fail design looks awesome

<ohchase:envs.net> table width a little janky but general style looks cool

<ky:tilde.horse> i think the old one was better 😞

<rottenwheel:unredacted.org> Cindy: TIL.

<rottenwheel:unredacted.org> @ohchase:envs.net: media.tenor.com/9MZIctn7rDcAAAAC/girl-same-willem-dafoe.gif

<rottenwheel:unredacted.org> What does CORS stand for on monero.fail? What's that flag about?

did monero.fail add a rate-limit now?

<rottenwheel:unredacted.org> Cindy: No clue, it didn't for me, yet, at least.

<rottenwheel:unredacted.org> @lza_menace:monero.social: around? :D

after the whole I2P node spam thing

<gan:skhron.org> @rottenwheel:unredacted.org: I assume - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross-origin_resource_sharing

the node list was completely filled with random I2P nodes

<lza_menace> @rottenwheel:unredacted.org: CORS means that the node has TLS encryption + allows web requests to be made from other sites, meaning, if i have a new monero web service I could real-time interact with that node from my web page using Javascript

lza_menace: doesn't that require a reverse proxy?

lza_menace copy that, thanks.

<gan:skhron.org> Having a functional service in most cases requires usage of reverse proxies

<lza_menace> Cindy: not always, but it's usually easier/better. monerod options do support this

<lza_menace> the TLS flags to point to a cert + --rpc-access-control-origins

<lza_menace> not rate limiting, but better logic in place to clean up / remove excessive nodes > <Cindy> did monero.fail add a rate-limit now?

zmq-pub checks? :D

DataHoarder: ICYMI. 0x0.st/Pssd.png || revuo-xmr.com/weekly/issue-252

<datahoarder> Nice!

<datahoarder> You can filter by any ID, however I filter out payments from Monero pools (these tend to happen continuously)

<datahoarder> Note this is also done on any transaction even historical ones, if you want to see the details. Also allows proofs

Yes, I knew about proofs as well, but issue got very long, had to trim and miss a couple very recent news, leave them out for next week's.

Cheers.

<datahoarder> (Eg. you can look up old monero donation transactions onto the explorer and see the decoded outputs)

<datahoarder> Yeah I understand that. I always highlight that exists whenever it gets mentioned :)

<datahoarder> Also- if anyone has any relevant public org you can submit viewkeys for auditing (or provide alternate proofs), ping me if so.

hi

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test2

test3

^c4 hji

^c4 red text

what are you even doing

why are you joining 3 times under the same IP

I am trying to see weather or not colored text show's in my irc client "lchat" on "st"

well Guest28/ArChLiNuXuSeR/testingcolortext

this channel is not +c

so you can do colored text

like this

oh woww

ok the color only shows in web client not lchat

whatever

DataHoarder: how does the matrix bridge handle IRC colors

forget it. can you help me? i need to see a reddit post but i don't have reddit account. so in web reddit i keep getting "you've been blocked by network security to continue, log in to your reddit" but i don't have one. i just wanna see the post in r/PiNetwork titled "How to add PI to Metamask"

use old.reddit.com in tor

and if it shows you a white page, keep refreshing the tor circuit

Asking the right questions!

here is a red it post reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fz1s4tptldr7g1.jpeg

when will this be updated to include haveno lol

<torir:matrix.org> This is the first I've heard of this. Were they specifiically attacking monero.fail or was there another reason for the attack? > <Cindy> the node list was completely filled with random I2P nodes

i dunno

but they filled up the index with tons and tons of I2P nodes per minute

the list of I2P nodes ended up 60x bigger than it was before the attack, but i think they got cleaned up

<torir:matrix.org> Not nodes that were passing uptime checks then, just random I2P addresses?

<torir:matrix.org> I see.

they passed uptime checks for a bit

<lza_menace> yeah, in order to be added to the list they have to be checked. they'd all validate healthy once or twice and then drop off

<lza_menace> but had thousands of them added. it skewed the typical runtime of the checking scripts so i had to counteract some things

<lza_menace> it's never a dull day operating web services, even simple ones lol