<zombie:catgirl.cloud> Only coin you’ll ever need is monero

I do hope there's some more energy-efficient alternative eventually, though. But this is the best we have currently and for some foreseeable future.

<torir:matrix.org> Monero also can't do smart contracts. Doing smart contracts in a private way is a whole complex matter.

<torir:matrix.org> For pure financial privacy though, Monero is the best in the space.

<zombie:catgirl.cloud> fair point.

<torir:matrix.org> Still not perfect, but we're working on it.

Are those smart contracts even important outside of being a buzzword?

<torir:matrix.org> Yes. Atomic swaps rely on them, for starters. Currently you can atomic swap between Monero and a coin that supports scripts like BTC and LTC, but not between two privacy coins.

<torir:matrix.org> We don't need to go full Ethereum. Even simply scripting would add a lot of utility.

Ah! Didn't know that.

<torir:matrix.org> simple* scripting

<torir:matrix.org> Swap contracts also make L2s things like payment channels a lot easier to implement.

<torir:matrix.org> smart* contracts

SupportXMR has 59.5% of instant hashrate currently irc.gammaspectra.live/74bef052c8704cb9/image.png

however that's due to miningpoolstats not recognizing nanopool

44% with nanopool included (when it works) irc.gammaspectra.live/50d87701139efdb3/image.png

blocks.p2pool.observer/pools 40.56% last week hashrate

<marioob:matrix.org> Don't give us heart attacks. > <DataHoarder> SupportXMR has 59.5% of instant hashrate currently irc.gammaspectra.live/74bef052c8704cb9/image.png

it's still growing. but I have seen a couple of people elsewhere post 60% pics cause of API issues

I made the pools page on the explorer to take into account unknown / unreported hash

but ofc, it's medium term for the last week. it doesn't capture instant changes

<marioob:matrix.org> The only way out of this is if we all mine on the p2p. I personally mined on p2pmini for over an year, until i actually had to start using my coins. Most of payment processors refused my coins due to my wallet being flooded with TXOs from the pool. I had to break the transfer in smaller payments. Since then, I moved onto ordin [... too long, see mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/pbnPxdUKVUNvbWJW ]

<spvce:spvcer3ii.space> Merry Christmas Eve, Monero Miners! :D

<marioob:matrix.org> Merry Xmas folks!

<spvce:spvcer3ii.space> For this Christmas, my goal is to make my Matrix server open to the public.

<spvce:spvcer3ii.space> I'll check in with y'all later, keep me posted on whatever goes down :]

<marioob:matrix.org> What are the unknown hashrates here? And why is this list significantly shorter than the one on miningpoolstats? Are these 2 related? > <DataHoarder> blocks.p2pool.observer/pools 40.56% last week hashrate

unknown hashrate is untracked pools or solo miners.

it's fine, people mine on their own

miningpoolstats reports values from pools API

blocks.p2pool.observer/pools works solely from Monero blocks - calculating difficulty from actual blocks found

it works even when pools are down, and if they provide view keys, it even does attribution

if a pool has not found a block during ~last week it won't show up.

I track many more for attribution api-wise, they just don't show up unless a block is there

"What are the unknown hashrates here" it's blocks without attributed pool or entity. which is fine.

<marioob:matrix.org> The unknown hashrates are one with no identifier and 2 with an ID in brackets. Do I get it right the former being solo miners and the later being 2 unknown pools?

no

that's just showing patterns in their extra nonces

it might indicate it's the same entity who mined that set of blocks. or not

it's whatever they put on extra nonce on the miner tx p2pool.io/explorer/tx/65ae2e4893fea…ebb69baa206c13c0d4a6b17583ca2e24b5f

if there's more than 3 with same specific instance id per week set, they get split off from "Unknown"

Unknown does have many with values in extra nonces. but if I'd split them, the page would make no sense

here's what happens when I disable the aggregation/coalescing irc.gammaspectra.live/b607d3863ef14451/image.png

BlueyHealer: solar panels?

Cindy, I was talking about the currency, not energy sources.

<marioob:matrix.org> Thanks for explanation. This pools observer is actually more helpful in most scenarios. > <DataHoarder> blocks.p2pool.observer/pools works solely from Monero blocks - calculating difficulty from actual blocks found

<lza_menace> i'm not cryptographically savvy enough to do it so i implemented a block explorer in typescript and used woodser's wallet implementation to get the functionality > <DataHoarder> On mine if you are on a transaction you can pass txkey+addr, or viewkey+addr, or proof+addr and it'll verify it against the tx

<datahoarder> that's some long term reply, I had to come check out what was the context :D

<datahoarder> bridge just sends the message you reply to as context

<torir:matrix.org> Considering the channels are logged publicly, maybe the bridge should link to the message in the logs when the original message is old.

<lza_menace> oh - i was trying to replicate the checktxkey functionality outside of having a running wallet rpc but hitting a wall trying to code it (was using onion-monero-explorer as the base because it has that functionality)

<lza_menace> but im not proficient w/ c++. i found woodser's typescript library has it implemented through it's wasm whatever integration woodser.github.io/monero-ts/typedocs/classes/MoneroCheckTx.html

<lza_menace> kind of a happy medium. it's still a wallet ish process but not a running wallet i'd need to keep online with rpc interface, native to the rest of the code in my repo

<datahoarder> @torir:matrix.org: the link in logs is totally different from what it'd generate

<datahoarder> the replies also has more special handling needed, like converting threads or handling username/deleted messages

<datahoarder> like, I remembered the message I just had to click to go back in context

<datahoarder> not all channels are logged, that's why mrelay also has a server for all its own linkings

<datahoarder> also: something IRC hates with bridges. links everywhere.

<datahoarder> that makes it useless, one of the issues MAI had. I still dump them out as needed (long code snippets, media, 5+ lines messages) but it tries to handle replies in short form, or long context form as needed

<datahoarder> people do the same thing in IRC. Quote some message from several days ago, reply to it. Then you need to remember context or go back in backlog :)

<datahoarder> @lza_menace: doesn't that still call RPC in the end?

<datahoarder> Yeah, check_tx_key from me looking at source code

<datahoarder> given you only have the txid you still need to get the transaction at some point, yeah

<datahoarder> So in the end it goes back to monero code itself :)

<datahoarder> All the reimplementations started due to needing calls to transactions or blocks that monero might be unaware of yet, or orphans :)

<datahoarder> Then ... scope grew past P2Pool

<datahoarder> You can see all I implement git.gammaspectra.live/P2Pool/consensus#libraries-in-this-package and git.gammaspectra.live/P2Pool/consen…other-maintained-external-libraries

DataHoarder is very cool

totally not an alt

you'd be weird if i was an alt

<everchange000:matrix.org> Is it possible to mine using p2pool via i2p?

<everchange000:matrix.org> I'm not quite sure how the network communication works.

yes, but you'll find muchless peers to talk to

much less*

<everchange000:matrix.org> which would mean?

<everchange000:matrix.org> a lot more volatile reward?

<everchange000:matrix.org> someone should be like: If you join this i2p network, then you will get .1 xmr after your first week.

it means that you won't be able to find more people to submit shares to

I2P doesn't have a way of communicating with peers outside I2P like tor does

P2Pool doesn't support i2p

Cindy_, it does have outproxies though - just that they're kind of an afterthought

<everchange000:matrix.org> ...thanks Obama

no problem B)

just use p2pool with tor or something

oh wait, port listening

Listening is possible with tor, just on an .onion address

that is if the peer you're talking to knows how to handle .onion addresses

If it runs with for socks5 proxy, it knows

*tor socks5

anyone know wtf is this guy yapping about?

oh wow, it's just a cryptobro spammer

what's with the amount of scammers this christmas, holy shit

<321bob321> Probably get worse with AI

i guess when it's the holidays, and you got nothing better to do

Why is "presale" even important for a utility thing lol

BlueyHealer: it's a shitcoin

<lza_menace> I think so, but it’s more abstracted away so I don’t care :) > <@datahoarder> doesn't that still call RPC in the end?

<lza_menace> actually, it looks like it's using the same code as running check_tx_key in the wallet cli. it will utilize a running node to provide some details but it's not necessarily an rpc call to a wallet rpc interface

<lza_menace> github.com/search?q=repo%3Awoodser%…Fmonero-ts%20check_tx_key&type=code

<lza_menace> i wanted to avoid having to ship a wallet rpc process to keep next to the backend for querying, just another thing to break. this way feels cleaner to me

note that to see your link, people have to login to github

<lza_menace> seriously? github locking their stuff down now i guess

<lza_menace> lame

they have locked down search for a long time

<lza_menace> didn't realize

wtf. Indeed.

<lza_menace> mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/monero.social/EOSBlHwinqRMEYDNgFKrGeJt.png (image.png)

<lza_menace> mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/monero.social/VEgSrjomdUBUyAaZTtHwyxjb.png (image.png)

so to run monero-ts.. you also need webassembly

<ofrnxmr> Youve had to login to search within code for a long time

<ofrnxmr> I wonder if you can just search bing with site:github.com🥲

<lza_menace> Cindy_: :shrug: idk, i'm just a simple web dev. using a javascript runtime called deno that has typescript support

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that's a spambot you just talked to :P

first time ON IRC

<hooftly:matrix.org> Lol

libera is getting hit by a spamwave and the staff are trying their best to stop it lol

<gan:skhron.org> It's just a joke, I'm not exactly talking to anyone (quite literally actually), plus I bet someone will have curiosity to see what I've posted

they're using different names and IPs and going through all the channels

<hooftly:matrix.org> I did a double take not gonna lie

lol i get ya

<hooftly:matrix.org> @gan:skhron.org: I enjoyed your response lol

so apparently the guy who made the spambot was boasting about it in #libera

until he got K-lined

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Lets see if it helps

Yeah +r works, oh well

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