<ravfx:xmr.mx> I wish tor/i2p equivalent would exist, that work kinda like yggdrasil (just an ipv6)

<ravfx:xmr.mx> because at the end, yggdrasil is not a privacy/anon network like tor/i2p

<bauxes:matrix.org> > <@absinthium:4d2.org> I didn't look into it. As far as I know the main LoRa stuff being using for reticulum and meshtastic are too slow to sync blocks or operate away from normal internet. I think it would be brilliant to be able to do this, I agree, but I think it requires radio transmission in illegal frequencies, whic [... too long, see mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/36_FraMLYklfOUpU ]

<bauxes:matrix.org> there must be a work around if not with reticulum in its current form some network where the monero p2p economy itself is decentralized down to network distribution itself regardless of the how. Must be someone working on something like this out there

<bauxes:matrix.org> once this happens we reach the point the monero is truly unstoppable tradfi loes its last leverage points outside of obviously cells and wrenches. im shocked it hasn't become a big deal up to now honestly but that also must mean its not an easy fix

<abuse.ch:matrix.org> yello

<tav.sh:matrix.org> whats up @abuse.ch:matrix.org

<abuse.ch:matrix.org> nufin

<abuse.ch:matrix.org> ohh i see this is Mav's chat

<abuse.ch:matrix.org> i prefer Monero Society

<tav.sh:matrix.org> who the hell is mav

<abuse.ch:matrix.org> admin

<ravfx:xmr.mx> @tav.sh:matrix.org: a monero maxi ngu youtuber

<abuse.ch:matrix.org> is this chat dead

<abuse.ch:matrix.org> are the admins even active in this

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> are the admins suppsoed to do the talking

this is not TG or Discord with eternal spam, go to #monero-offtopic:monero.social for banter

<abuse.ch:matrix.org> who the hell is that

<tav.sh:matrix.org> wheres velotaf doe

<abuse.ch:matrix.org> DataHoarder[m]: are you a bot sir

this is one of the most alive IRC channels I'm currently at

funny that someone might think it's not alive, maybe that is really the modern discord culture talking.

<eravsar:raubritter.org> @ravfx:xmr.mx: see github.com/aeeravsar/TSR a side project i made. assigns virtual IP addresses to onion/i2p addresses. could be useful for exactly this case. requires virtual DNS resolution first but i believe that can be changed.

<eravsar:raubritter.org> i think the same can apply to reticulum. the hard part is inbound connections (for tor/i2p as well), still not impossible. but the good part is there is no need to PR monerod, this can work around it. only the users that want to participate in the expanded network would run a side program like this.

<sbt:nope.chat> Which swap service is cheap (less fees), quick and trusted?

<sbt:nope.chat> For XMR to USDC

<pw:xmr.mx> trocador?

<sbt:nope.chat> High fees for big txn

<pw:xmr.mx> basicswapdex

<pw:xmr.mx> basicswapdex.com

<pw:xmr.mx> 'BasicSwap charges no protocol or trading fees; you only pay the normal on-chain network fees for each coin you move during a swap'

<sbt:nope.chat> Is usdc supported?

<sbt:nope.chat> Doesn't seem like it. Very limited options.

sir, this is Matrix > <Bunnyh> this is one of the most alive IRC channels I'm currently at

<pw:xmr.mx> ah fuck my bad checksum, no. sorry.

<pw:xmr.mx> its Haveno that supports ir

<pw:xmr.mx> it*

<pw:xmr.mx> docs.haveno.exchange/overview/assets/#crypto

<pw:xmr.mx> 7th down on the list.

<pw:xmr.mx> you will need retoswap.com as thats the network used in Haveno

<pw:xmr.mx> I'm not in the know here but would going XMR, LTC, USDC reduce the fees when going to USDC?

<pw:xmr.mx> I know it's adding another party in the middle but LTC is known for low fees.

<pw:xmr.mx> I mean XMR is low too but Ive never gone XMR to USDC so would be interested to know..... anyone?

check rates on the aggregator sites trocador and orangefren

<abuse.ch:matrix.org> @pw:xmr.mx: Monero fees are like 5 cents

<abuse.ch:matrix.org> and spread isn't much lower for Litecoin either

<pw:xmr.mx> yes I said I know Monero and LTC fees are low.

<pw:xmr.mx> I just wondered if going XMR to USDC would calculate a higher fee given how Monero is becoming more restricted these days.

<pw:xmr.mx> So I wondered if going to LTC first (even though being a proxy to USDC for another small fee) would be less of a kick in the nuts fee wise rather than straight from XMR to USDC

<pw:xmr.mx> @abuse.ch:matrix.org: loving the username tho @abuse.ch:matrix.org 🤣😅 definitely original haha

<abuse.ch:matrix.org> @pw:xmr.mx: More swaps = more fees and spread

<abuse.ch:matrix.org> But if you compare XMR to USDC directly with XMR to LTC to USDC the difference is very low

<abuse.ch:matrix.org> I'd just do it directly

<abuse.ch:matrix.org> You can check rates for yourself on trocador.app and orangefren.com

<pw:xmr.mx> gotcha.

<pw:xmr.mx> yeah I suggested trocador to sham but they said tx was very high, so suggest Haveno... that will probably be higher fee no doubt

what service do you recommend for esim?

<ravfx:xmr.mx> Cloudflare is doing a nice thing!

<ravfx:xmr.mx> idx.inc/newsroom/cloudflare-will-bl…ajor-shift-in-ai-visibility-control

<ravfx:xmr.mx> (That include google search and bing search because it use the same crawler for search and clank)\

<ravfx:xmr.mx> oups, for a moment I tought it was off topic

<ravfx:xmr.mx> alem: There many option listed in kycnot.me, some are not there but you can start by theses

DataHoarder[m]: depends on your perspective :)

<syntheticbird> @ravfx:xmr.mx: Thanks so much to cloudflare for that

<syntheticbird> I will know welcome and embrace their couldflare insights injected anayltics

<syntheticbird> now*

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> If you sell the xmr on bsx, yes > <@pw:xmr.mx> I'm not in the know here but would going XMR, LTC, USDC reduce the fees when going to USDC?

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Because if you sell at, like 0.5%, it will sell quickly, then you gained 0.5% against whatever the swappers rate is

<pw:xmr.mx> knew i made sense somewhere @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx 😎

<ravfx:xmr.mx> @syntheticbird: That can be disabled afaik.

<ravfx:xmr.mx> getmonero controller should go in cloudflare admin panel and turn that JS injection off at least

<eddie:oblak.be> This is a pretty good video for newbies; youtube.com/watch?v=lf0h_m3M3_c seems a quite popular youtuber too, good PR.