<kevino:tchncs.de> @notafbihoneypot:matrix.org: Check zec wallet distribution on Arkham 😆.

<kevino:tchncs.de> It looks laughable when you see 80% of zec coins all accounted for and "labelled"

<tuw:matrix.org> a large amount of the shielded pool is trivially traceable with things like t-add -> s-add -> back to the same t-add

<kevino:tchncs.de> they made privacy so complex task , i doubt an average user even bothers using it.

<ravfx:xmr.mx> especially that exchanges only support T

<kevino:tchncs.de> vs monero , which you just use it and be private , you don't have to do hackery to be private

<ravfx:xmr.mx> exactly, it just werk

<elongated:matrix.org> @ravfx:xmr.mx: Gemini supports shielded

<kevino:tchncs.de> even bitcoin can be made private if you know enough hackery 😆

<ravfx:xmr.mx> @elongated:matrix.org: the only one that supported, also one of VC funding it afaik

<kevino:tchncs.de> @elongated:matrix.org: whats the guarantee they keep supporting it ?

<elongated:matrix.org> @ravfx:xmr.mx: It’s is the only one funding this pump n dump 😅

<ravfx:xmr.mx> @kevino:tchncs.de: as long as they don't dump it probably

<jacoblightning3:matrix.org> @kevino:tchncs.de: True. Hard to do with all the examples of how you can mess up

<jacoblightning3:matrix.org> en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Privacy

<elongated:matrix.org> @kevino:tchncs.de: Who cares ? They see number go up buy villas boats

<kevino:tchncs.de> yaa man , crypto is still seen as investment asset not money unfortunately 😅

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> @kevino:tchncs.de: Yep

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> Biggest vuln in all crypto

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> can be turned just into a speculative asset

<jacoblightning3:matrix.org> @slowbeardigger:matrix.org: Well so can all currencies. Just that no-one does

<elongated:matrix.org> @jacoblightning3:matrix.org: Everything is speculative, example FX markets

<elongated:matrix.org> Just remember 1 xmr = 1 xmr

<yusufkhan:matrix.org> If only cryptos like xmr is stable or high up on the mountains that time its gold to the people who think it as an asset.

<yusufkhan:matrix.org> Otherwise its just another investment opportunity.

<yokoama:matrix.org> @yusufkhan:matrix.org: 1 xmr is always 1 xmr

<yokoama:matrix.org> your potato price goes up and down, you can consider that as investment if you want

<yusufkhan:matrix.org> @kevino:tchncs.de: Yeah it is 1xmr = 1xmr for me tho. But not for people in this category.

<yusufkhan:matrix.org> I also mentioned in the msg that what i wrote is for The people who think its an investment opportunity

<yusufkhan:matrix.org> .. > <@yusufkhan:matrix.org> If only cryptos like xmr is stable or high up on the mountains that time its gold to the people who think it as an asset.

<kevino:tchncs.de> ok i feel very good about it now !

<kevino:tchncs.de> but can we all just pump the price a little

<yusufkhan:matrix.org> How?

<kevino:tchncs.de> Buy some xmr ?

<tuw:matrix.org> it is up 90% on the year and more than 30% on the month, unless you just bought in yesterday you are doing very well

<m4tr1xhav3rl33t:4d2.org> its funny cus its only seen as an investment asset because its seen as as a potential form of money in the future but that makes it useless as money > <@kevino:tchncs.de> yaa man , crypto is still seen as investment asset not money unfortunately 😅

<kevino:tchncs.de> irony isn't it

<gentlemoose:matrix.org> @m4tr1xhav3rl33t:4d2.org: On that point I have a thought. In authoritarianism wealth equals survival exactly because in what is coming money is useless if you can't move it. Kyc btc and downstream crypto is a liability time bomb. We only have xmr and it has been kyc killed. Next phase they will try to kill swaps with last [... too long, see mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/pIbAx6gLaXZnemNU ]

<gentlemoose:matrix.org> When I read 1984 ten years ago I thought these can't happen, it's insane you can't just not see what this is becoming for two generations and then full totalitarianism. Now I look at all those blind people and damn.. Dude knew

<routingerror:metropolis.nexus> Where is the GitHub want to contribue > <@aillia:matrix.org> Stasher.news (Monero's version of stacker.news - powered by Monero (and x.com/DontTraceMeBruh)) now live on Monero mainnet x.com/stashernews/status/2096926276992790862

<yusufkhan:matrix.org> Hello

<yusufkhan:matrix.org> A Problem with my monero wallet restore.

tell us more

<yusufkhan:matrix.org> i typed the correct seed and it just gives me a wallet with different primary address

25 word seed?

<yusufkhan:matrix.org> yeah

which wallet are you using?

<yusufkhan:matrix.org> i tried monerujo and now i also tried cake. I created it in2022 not used any wallet since then, But used the gui in 2025 i guess once and then deleted.

do you see the correct amount of coins/money?

your old address is still working, i find the old address in receive->account and subaddresses. that is so cunfusing

is an answer from reddit

:P

<yusufkhan:matrix.org> Not found there either.

<yusufkhan:matrix.org> Its Actually zero in the balance but i hav3 some i pool mined on the pool so i want to mine and get it out

i dont understand the pool thing and zero balance :D

someone will solve it for you, if your seed is legit

i typed your problem into search engines and some problems came up

<yusufkhan:matrix.org> There is no amt in my accnt. its a zero balance account.

i dont think youre alone with that problem

why do you recover a zero balance acc?

<yusufkhan:matrix.org> I never got any from the mining pool because of minimum payout thing

<yusufkhan:matrix.org> My seed is 100% legit.

maybe you got to rescan all blocks from 0

did you start from a block height like: 1829934

or from 0?

<yusufkhan:matrix.org> how to do that?

<yusufkhan:matrix.org> more like 2000...

normally a wallet is asking you if you want to restore from 0 blocks or the block height were you "opened" your wallet

<yusufkhan:matrix.org> i did from 0 still the same

you can sync the blocks from 0 in 2minutes

it will take tiiiiime

:P

cant

<yusufkhan:matrix.org> Its like im in cake wallet and did the zero block height thing. but i just gave me a Wallet already

<yusufkhan:matrix.org> it*

just wait in here, someone will solve it, i cant solve it now :P

<yusufkhan:matrix.org> ok

try to google your problem

<yusufkhan:matrix.org> on it

dont hand out any adresses or seeds to someone

<yusufkhan:matrix.org> ok

<yusufkhan:matrix.org> there are 4 blocks in last 10 mins?

<yusufkhan:matrix.org> exploremonero.com/blocks

<yusufkhan:matrix.org> How 4?

can you pls speak in full sentences

:P

Monero Block Time Target

The Monero network targets a block every 2 minutes (120 seconds). At that steady cadence, Monero produces roughly 720 blocks per day (1,440 minutes ÷ 2). This 120-second target is fixed in Monero's protocol as the constant DIFFICULTY_TARGET_V2

<yusufkhan:matrix.org> But but in exploremonero.com/blocks there 4 blocks in the span of a minute? How?

<yusufkhan:matrix.org> At least 2 to 3 blocks are in the span of a minute

<kevino:tchncs.de> it can happen , if difficulty is not adjusted

<ofrnxmr> @yusufkhan:matrix.org: Luck

<yusufkhan:matrix.org> Oh Cool

<yusufkhan:matrix.org> Hello @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx Can You solve my problem? > <@yusufkhan:matrix.org> i typed the correct seed and it just gives me a wallet with different primary address

<yusufkhan:matrix.org> @ofrnxmr:monero.social

<jpk68:matrix.org> The primary address starts with a '4', yes?

<yusufkhan:matrix.org> yes

<jpk68:matrix.org> Are you using a seed passphrase?

<yusufkhan:matrix.org> no

<ofrnxmr> Then the address should match

<yusufkhan:matrix.org> The address isnt matching

<yusufkhan:matrix.org> ☹️

<yusufkhan:matrix.org> Im Worried..

<jpk68:matrix.org> What wallet are you using?

[14:31:47] <+br-m> <yusufkhan:matrix.org> i typed the correct seed and it just gives me a wallet with different primary address

[14:32:05] <btcdwed> 25 word seed?

[14:32:14] <+br-m> <yusufkhan:matrix.org> yeah

<yusufkhan:matrix.org> @jpk68:matrix.org: Currently i tried monerujo cake and monero.com by cake

<yusufkhan:matrix.org> All three showed the same.

<yusufkhan:matrix.org> I Logged multiple times previously like 10 times and those times its the same.

<yusufkhan:matrix.org> Same seed same account now its different

<yusufkhan:matrix.org> Any idea?

<jpk68:matrix.org> So which one is different?

<jpk68:matrix.org> Which wallet now has the different-looking seed?

<yusufkhan:matrix.org> No The Primary address

<yusufkhan:matrix.org> My Main wallet address @jpk68:matrix.org

<jpk68:matrix.org> Yes, you said that the primary address was the same between the apps. Which app now shows the wrong address?

<yusufkhan:matrix.org> All of em

<yusufkhan:matrix.org> They are showin a different primary address for the same seed

<yusufkhan:matrix.org> i mean not the original but the same different non-original primary address in all of then

<yusufkhan:matrix.org> Sry for the confusion

<jpk68:matrix.org> In that case, there must be something wrong, because that should never happen

<jpk68:matrix.org> You can't just mistype a seed phrase, because it uses a checksum

<yusufkhan:matrix.org> Im unlucky as fcuk

<ofrnxmr> What wallet software created the wallet

<yusufkhan:matrix.org> i created the wallet maybein cake wallet

<yusufkhan:matrix.org> on or around Nov 1-4 2022

<ofrnxmr> And where are you restoring it

<yusufkhan:matrix.org> .. > <@yusufkhan:matrix.org> Currently i tried monerujo cake and monero.com by cake

<yusufkhan:matrix.org> ^^

<ofrnxmr> Ok, then this sounds like user error

i noticed it after 2mins

:P

<ofrnxmr> Same wallet seed in cake and monero.com cant result in a different wallet. They are the same software

<yusufkhan:matrix.org> like?

<ofrnxmr> where do you get the "old" primary address from?

<yusufkhan:matrix.org> @ofrnxmr: Nah .... Like Now when i restored they are same across all the wallets but different than the original one.

<yusufkhan:matrix.org> I think we have a slight miscommunication

<ofrnxmr> All of the restores show the same address?

<ofrnxmr> @yusufkhan:matrix.org: Ok, so the original is a different seed

<yusufkhan:matrix.org> @ofrnxmr: but diff than original

<yusufkhan:matrix.org> @ofrnxmr: same seed

<ofrnxmr> A) you used an offset/passphrase

<ofrnxmr> B) its a different seed altogether

<yusufkhan:matrix.org> i wrote it down > <@ofrnxmr> where do you get the "old" primary address from?

<ofrnxmr> Only 2 options

<ofrnxmr> Do you have the original wallet still loaded?

monerujo supports a passphase / offset , the 25th word proves you didnt make a mistake , its the only plausible explanation

did you sanity check this wrong seed by syncing it fully?

<ofrnxmr> They say the 4 (primary) address is different, which cant be helped by syncing

<ofrnxmr> you said 25 word seed? U sure its not 24?

<ofrnxmr> Nvm, im sleeptalkimg

he said 25

i had once problems too with restoring, sometimes i can be "hard"

but i dont think his problem is getting solved soon :P

hola plowsof

hey btcdwed

maybe thats his real seed and he wrote an address he was going to send a payment to, who knows

yea

my first wallet backup had every number i could find written down

just in case :P

i thought about he did subadresses maybe

and wrote down the wrong one? or only the wrong one is shown to him?

<yusufkhan:matrix.org> btcdwed: no ppl

<yusufkhan:matrix.org> it was main one

you should read about how to restore a wallet

or you should think about whats wrong at your side

you even told me that theres no amount or real usecase for that wallet

why dont you just open a new one?:D

<jacoblightning3:matrix.org> Unrelated to your problem but you should try p2pool if you can. > <@yusufkhan:matrix.org> I never got any from the mining pool because of minimum payout thing

<jacoblightning3:matrix.org> It has no minimum payout and you can get shares pretty quickly with ~10 kH/s

<yusufkhan:matrix.org> @jacoblightning3:matrix.org Im Planning on solo mining Some time later.

<jacoblightning3:matrix.org> @yusufkhan:matrix.org: AH, good luck then. You need a lot of hashes/s for that (although I assume you know that)

<jacoblightning3:matrix.org> @jacoblightning3:matrix.org: * I guess that's not true. Over time, you'll make, on average, the same amount. Just that the payouts will be much rarer.

<yusufkhan:matrix.org> @jacoblightning3:matrix.org: Good Luck suits the work correctly.

<yusufkhan:matrix.org> Thank You. :)

<yusufkhan:matrix.org> Yeah.. Hmm...

<lza_menace> vtnerd: does lws work with pruned node?

<fexofenadine:matrix.org> as soon as i get monero it drops because of ZEC 😭

<fexofenadine:matrix.org> do we think ZEC will hold?

<elongated:matrix.org> @fexofenadine:matrix.org: Ask in ztrash group

<fexofenadine:matrix.org> ztrash lmao

<fexofenadine:matrix.org> alr

<syntheticbird> @elongated:matrix.org: bold of you to assume there are reasonable humans in their social space (80% are clankers and 20% are zealots)

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<aillia:matrix.org> you should ask this guy stasher.news/untraceable > <@routingerror:metropolis.nexus> Where is the GitHub want to contribue

<aillia:matrix.org> Warning: @chowab:matrix.org is impersonating @chowbungaman:matrix.org and sending unsolicited direct messages. Be careful - do not engage with this account!

<syntheticbird> @aillia:matrix.org: thanks for your service, can i kindly ask you if I can impersonate you to sell donuts with free copies of the spotify archive

<syntheticbird> the archive is free if you buy the 500$ donuts

<aillia:matrix.org> donuts are bad for your health ;P

<jpk68:matrix.org> @syntheticbird: Did someone actually do that, lmao

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> @aillia:matrix.org: :( B-but they’re so good

<aillia:matrix.org> try cocaine - it's even better: acts on the same mesolimbic dopamine system but does not make you fat or spike your insulin ;P))))

<m4tr1xhav3rl33t:4d2.org> i didnt expect to see "try cocaine" when opening matrix

<gan:sofalounge.club> @aillia:matrix.org: FSB recommendation, do not fall for this 🧌

<aillia:matrix.org> we're in different matrices then i usually expect everything here

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> @aillia:matrix.org: Makes me sleepy

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> and it is fucking disgusting, dn'

<aillia:matrix.org> @slowbeardigger:matrix.org: ...don DONUTS - they are drugs too!!!

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> @aillia:matrix.org: Sugar is a hard drug

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> Once i have a donut, i neet to have another one

<yusufkhan:matrix.org> Hey @jpk68:matrix.org @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx @ofrnxmr:monero.social @jacoblightning3:matrix.org Thanks for your assistance. :) Decided to create new wallet. Sorry if i cause any trouble.

<jpk68:matrix.org> Don't worry about it :)

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> @slowbeardigger:matrix.org: Fuck i am a drug addict

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @aillia:matrix.org: What about in a car

<fexofenadine:matrix.org> @aillia:matrix.org: cocaine as sprinkles to balance out the effect

<machineswillrise:matrix.org> @aillia:matrix.org: boof it for the best experience