Anyone has a clue how a swapper like sideshift.ai works? I do not think they use atomic swaps, so how can I be sure to not get scammed?

You can't be sure if it's not an atomic swap. That's why they exist. As for sideshift.ai, I can't comment on it specifically as I've never heard of it. If you find a suitable amount of reviews you trust, which are positive, you *can* try it, but any centralized service can always screw you over.

string111[m]: all swap services are custodial - you give away your coins and hope the fulfill the other side of the deal. Only trustless way is via *actual* atomic swaps (and the service called Atomic Swap isn't...)

... there's a service called AS which isn't atomic?

yeah

<kayabaNerve> "You can't be sure if it's not an..." <- i think sideshift.ai is what monerujo used to pay btc with xmr after xmr.to closed

There are a few swappers, they are listed here: getmonero.org/community/merchants

I guess all custodial.

FixedFloat.com, Flyp.me and CoinSwap.click are also good.

i tried coinswap.click. works well enough.

fixedfloat has been disabling ltc <-> xmr lately.

Thanks. Those requiring no KYC and trading at 0% fee, seem like honeypots, tbh^^

if you broadcast from tor and do things properly, no need to worry.

KYC-free is accessible, not a honeypot. In comparison, exchanges that require government ID are financially exclusionary and send your data to the state.

If you use e.g. FixedFloat, they only know your withdrawal address and amount, deposit TXID and IP address (use Tor).

FixedFloat has low fees but probably has high volume, so it still earns money.

a wallet having the feature to connect and broadcast via TOR proxy is a must for me.

If you use the wallet in Whonix Workstation, everything is routed via Tor anyway. Not sure about mobile wallets, since AFAIK Orbot doesn't have a kill-switch and may leak the IP.

unscottable[m]: Yes, sure.

A lot criminals though suck at their OpSec. Would be stupid if the big brother would not at least monitor these swappers.

criminals are also more likely to have a low IQ, so yea, makes sense.

sucks to be a dummy

always swap into XMR and let the big brother suck it up string111[m]

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<anarkiocrypto[m]> "If you use the wallet in..." <- Monerujo now uses the orbot gateway directly (not through is vpn function), so if orbot dies there's no connection.

Great to hear. :) I couldn't find any kill-switch in Orbot's settings, so there is a worry that if Orbot fails, disconnects or shuts down, apps would connect to clearnet instead of going offline. Happy to hear that Monerujo is protected against this.

<m2049r[m]> "Monerujo now uses the orbot..." <- Do you mean that monerujo has orbot functionality within the app?

What is Orbit?

* What is Orbot?

tor router for android, string111[m]

I'm brand new to this irc stuff, and learning how to utilize the potential of Monero.

welcome

It worked! :-) Thanks

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<carrington[m]> "Do you mean that monerujo has..." <- It uses orbot if you have it installed (touch the network icon next to the node to toggle tor connectivity). You can use regular node over tor and also onion nodes