sorry for asking so much :) I started again, now the wallet seems to have corrected. Now I try to send a little amount to my exchange, since the other wallets are not updated yet to Monero, but i get a message: Error Can't create transaction: Call method failed. please advise team thanks

agus10[m]: what trezor firmware do you have?

the last one, the 2.5.2

which node did you select?

wait

do you have multiple trezor related programs open?

not really, only one trezor and only use xmr

i mean do you have the trezor program still open?

or the trezor website?

yes its open

the trezor suite app and the device

you can't use both at once

they interfere

so i log out of the trezor suite?

yes, exit the trezor suite

if it doesn't work try a full computer restart where you only start monero aterwards, but that should not be necessary

ok thanks I will try that now

<ofrnxmr[m]> "> <@ofrnxmr:monero.social> I..." <- Fist api pr?

Do not use changelly, it's the same people who are behind minergate scam pool: minergate.com/blog/presenting-changelly

Yeah, they have been widely reported as scammy ever since they started

Is there a room/channel for content on r/monero?

* room/channel for discussing content on

* Is there a room/channel for discussing content of r/monero?

I'd use this one

<vikCake[m]> "Is there a room/channel for..." <- What are we discussing?👀

<CidadoisAncap[m]> "What are we discussing?👀" <- The chatroom is revolved around xmr and xmr related subjects but it seems we have free (mostly) unrestricted speech

With some things being off limits ofc

<rayatina[m]> "The chatroom is revolved..." <- i assume r/monero is monero related

:)

vikCake[m]: R/monero?

the monero subreddit

I'm talkin abt here

rayatina[m]: yeah the monero subreddit is monero related

Lol

This is a general monero chatroom

It's not about r/monero, it's abt the crypto

At least to my knowledge

hilarious

anyway, will post some comments later on about r/monero

Ok

This vik from cake wallet?

<rayatina[m]> "It's not about r/monero, it's..." <- "Donate to my blank website for services that done exist"

R/monero is, by definition, a moneri topically

rayatina we're governed by this policy libera.chat/policies and yes, r/monero is part of this community

Hello, Are you interested in making $1,500 plus additional $500 for diligence and hardwork in two weeks (legit) by sparing just 15/30 minutes of your time every 48hrs without no start up fee ? If yes get back to me for more details

3-2-1 POOF

nothing gets by plowsof 😱

<ofrnxmr[m]> ""Donate to my blank website..." <- It's to help add services goofy

Off topic stuff like this you mean: matrix.to/#/!psOvWRiQkyosOPKvaO:mat…ial&via=matrix.org&via=halogen.city

anyway, will post a question later today, when I can be around to discuss it.

🥲 rayatina

Do you have any services yet or just a donation page

vikCake[m]: The conversation got heated, it went from servers to taxes to hating america to heroin, idk how

> <@ofrnxmr:monero.social> 🥲 rayatina

>

> Do you have any services yet or just a donation page

I have a searx instance

And i have an email service but for some weird reason emails from gmail didn't work

But tutanota and protonmail did

1.5xmr to mirror the monero and monero related repos for 1yr as a HS

Hs is active

rayatina[m]: You host the full service / servers, or just xmr.beauty domain

rayatina you're not going to turn this room into rayatinas offtopic / they did 9/11 / donate to me room (like you did to monero today) , stop

ofrnxmr[m]: It's all on a personal vps, and i own the domain

Btw, regarding ccs... (full message at libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/do…a41fc84bb3fcc662779c832f6430513a6a8)

I am rayatina[m] angel investor I think lol

I wish you were mine (valentine)

I think I only sent like 0.1 or 0.2 xmr

how much you looking to raise :P

Send all your nerossss p2pcrowd.fund/ofrnxmr

your second sentence of third paragraph is a fragment

otherwise I would've sent 100 xmr :P

Hey, I typed it on my phone

also not a fan of how you can't type exact amount, only slide the slider bar

sent some wows ofrnxmr[m]

I just got new ryzen with 64 gb of ram and 4 tb nvme

it fucking crushes

Other wishlists are available rucknium.me/donate

Feedback is great, since WAAS is for everyone

also I don't think the premade payment link works in wowlet, so not sure xmr in feather would work either?

Even rayatina

does that format work in official gui?

Uri should be supoorted in gui, monerujo and cake

cool, I have seen for btc/electrum, and I guess I have seen in qr form and paid with monerujo

probably

Monerujo actually registers as a handler for monero: addresses

ofrnxmr: You use you're phone to code?!?

Yep

I use to use mine for console back like 10 years ago but I stopped doing that.

<plowsof> "rayatina you're not going to..." <- Alr

<jwinterm> "how much you looking to raise :P" <- Like 1 or 1.3-5 xmr would be enough to run a xmr node and a tor relay, that'll be enough to actually contribute to the community

1 or 1.3-1.5 or 5 xmr?

ofrnxmr[m]: 1.3-1.5

I run all my services(Tor, XMR) without asking money.

Maybe I should!

I only ask money for services I sell like vpn or for code

5 would be way more than enough for my simple idea

ofrnxmr[m]: But i'd be able to buy school materials tho

Is 3tb bandwith enough for an xmr node?

you can limit bandwidth if you're concerned

jwinterm: It'll mainly be on a vps so bandwith wouldn't be my issue

Just paying for it

rayatina[m]: I found a vps with 1gb ram and 250 gb for like 5 bucks a month

It's hdd tho

And russian

Russian is fine

hdd will be anoying to sync the node. But if you can sync somewhere else and upload it on the server then run the node 24/7 it will be fine

can confirm it is still possible to run node on spinny hd

It's abt 50 or so dollars a year

rayatina[m]: And include taxes

That's like 58 bucks a year or smth

Idk eu taxes

<rayatina[m]> "I found a vps with 1gb ram and 2..." <- You've never run a node before, ever, have you

HDD and 1gb of ram is a painfully experience sorry a personal node. Forget about charging people to use it

Is a painful experience for a personal *

ofrnxmr[m]: I tried to run one on an old pc

I told you guys abt it

You have an old android?

Nah

Or a second android

Tablet etc

rayatina[m]: Took like a week to get the whole blockchain

rayatina[m]: I decided it was too much work and so long and i don't have that electricity bill money

I can sync the chain on android in under 2 days

Under 12 hours on a modern pc with an ssd

Over a week on HDD, over a week on rasp pi

Its not confidence inspiring to use services run by someone who doesnt know the basics

Ie, practice makes perfect.

plowsof: care to share your uploaded data?

6TB/day for supportxmr has been reported. My personal node is uploading 1~MB/s (several TB every few days) selstas is uploading double that

Cakes node is probably ridiculous

vik (Cake): can you gou get your hands on print_net_stats info for your nodes by any chance? Useful info for the GUI community node

+list*

Sent 9291475906054 bytes (8.45 TB) in 82548254 packets in 12.8 days, average 8.02 MB/s = 25.24% of the limit of 31.77 MB/s

Oh, people actually use my node 😂

Rav fx, how much are you charging raytina to setup monero-proxy to your node

Fwiw, my android nodes average ~50kbps and around 10gb/day

I don't have to charge people for that

(Case in point)

ask not what Monero can do for you

ask, what can I do for Monero?

wow that's an old channel topic

noot Ask Me Anything about ETH<>XMR Atomic Swaps happening now (+ donation campaign link):

<rayatina[m]> "1.3-1.5" <- That is my price target for running a full node at home for 3 years including hardware (with 4GB ram & 256GB NVME) and power costs 👀

I run mine on leftover dedicated server space.

If I where not running it, it would just be lost and unused resources.

IMHO MyMonero should be removed from GetMonero.org until the wallet is working again:

edge must not be working either (?)

I'm not sure. Anyone know?

Im under the impression that all mymonero based wallets arent working. Im checking GitHub / messaging them to see

definitely seems like a lot of complaints about them lately

> <@rucknium:monero.social> IMHO MyMonero should be removed from GetMonero.org until the wallet is working again:

> monero-project/monero-site #2029

Or greyed out

"THe XMR update for edge is still inprogress, however the all other coins on Edge are still working"

Nah, remove them

lol

Or put them on a OUTDATED - DO NOT USE list

the regular monero room died so now I'm here

kek

<ofrnxmr[m]> ""THe XMR update for edge is..." <- Ok please comment on the GitHub issue accordingly.

<ct[m]> "That is my price target for..." <- What country are you in?

In america that's impossible

I literally have a flag in my user name

And I make it possible 🙃

I'm terrible at ETAs but 3-4 month till release of instructions is possible

ct[m]: Cuz ur like in belguim

That's similar to a German flag, same colors, but Germany's is horizontal.

But that does not mean ct is from there, only that he (or she or whatever) likes those colors. ;-)

Oh, not only the direction but even the order of the colors are not like Germany's nevermind.

jozsef[m]: It's belgium

Erc made a PR to remove edge/mymonero monero-project/monero-site #2030

<plowsof> "Erc made a PR to remove edge/..." <- Excellent. I’d recommend removing them permanently until they allow self hosting

But this is fine

you can use mymonero with self hosted lws from what i know

cryptogrampy:

Is it working yet?

hey guys, looking for advice on this

is this Windows not liking Monero, or is this some virus shit

Windows

never seen this before while using my wallet or while mining

add an exception

ok, thanks

I did

Maybe this is from adding a backup on a new NAS?

I didn't create exceptions for that

no, it is the anti virus saying that monero-gui contains code to mine which is potentially unwanted

hmm, why all of a sudden? Just "cause Windoz!"

lol

(shame on me, I know)

selsta: thanks!

Because monero is all of a sudden more leet

Now windows knows you are a monero user

Yep. There will come a time when similarly, the government will also learn that you are a(n undesirable) monero user, just because, say, your ISP denounces you that you have port 18080 open on your firewall.

Then, since monero will by then be illegal, your food ration will be immediately and automatically (decided on by some AI) decreased and there will be no need for you to go stand in line the next day for your usual weekly ration of half a kilo of flour and sugar.

Microsoft just reports your filenames "monerod.exe" to their virus analyticis tracking whatever lolo

Or at least that's what you think. 😝

They get their metrics from somewhere 🫣

Anyway, ive got no love for windows and no sympathy for windows users issues.

Just me

I run a node at my home computer, of course. From my office, and from my phone if I connect to the company wifi, I can not access my computer at home. Not even a web page. Naturally. Since nodes with ports like 18080 open are a security threat.

<ofrnxmr[m]> "Microsoft just reports your..." <- Deletung system32 is a good solution

Now I run everything via i2p so I have no problem. Hehe.

rayatina[m]: *deleting

I run my rpc over hidden services

rayatina[m]: Deleting windows is better

ofrnxmr[m]: System32 is windows

Windows needs it to operate

That's the point! 😝🤟

Or... just delete the partition

Install linux

Why have private crypto but no private os

<rayatina[m]> "Why have private crypto but no..." <- You can be private with most OS, you have to do you're own OPSEC.

making a new OS from scratch, not only is time consuming, but you will also need to make drivers for all the shit that exist and also port or make applications. At the end you also endup with same results.

What's leak on you're OS are mostly the application / browsers

Privacy on windows is a thing?

Wait wait

Wrong chat

#monero:monero.social

> <@al800:0wnz.at> You can be private with most OS, you have to do you're own OPSEC.

> making a new OS from scratch, not only is time consuming, but you will also need to make drivers for all the shit that exist and also port or make applications. At the end you also endup with same results.

Windows literally has microsoft spyware injected in it

ofrnxmr[m]: Right chat

Wrong chat

This is -community

Not for things not related to the monero ecosystem

rayatina[m]: You can disable that shit

And I invite you to look at how windows is developed and tested...

Hello community, I would like to meet some people talking about monero. Is there a side where I can find local meetups in Germany?

And I would like to understand what's the plan to get the price of xmr more stable. Circular economy? How to get this with price fluctuations and if states tend to illegalize xmr?

> <@al800:0wnz.at> You can disable that shit

> And I invite you to look at how windows is developed and tested...

You can't see how it's made bcuz it's closed source

There was someone asking for stickers in German the other day.

Not sure how many community members are out there

> <@al800:0wnz.at> You can disable that shit

> And I invite you to look at how windows is developed and tested...

Even if you could it'd be better to just install linux, but i don't wanna derail the topic

rayatina[m]: By how I did not mean, the code, I did mean, there procedure. AKA : They test dev/updates on there user. They use to have a lab with over 1k PC to test all build in house. That does not exist anymore, the user park is what is used now hence the telemetry stuff.

Anyway, not the place for discuting that

kumpf: Talk to monerobull

> <@rayatina:monero.social> You can't see how it's made bcuz it's closed source

* By how I did not mean, the code, I did mean, there procedure. AKA : They test dev/updates on there user. They use to have a lab with over 1k PC to test all build in house (to test dev build on as much hardware variation as possible). That does not exist anymore, the user park is what is used now hence the telemetry stuff (more hardware variation sample that way).

Anyway, not the place for discuting that

> <@kumpf:tchncs.de> Hello community, I would like to meet some people talking about monero. Is there a side where I can find local meetups in Germany?

> And I would like to understand what's the plan to get the price of xmr more stable. Circular economy? How to get this with price fluctuations and if states tend to illegalize xmr?

I'm in Cologne till Saturday but other than that i can recommend the German xmr telegram

ofrnxmr[m]: being that the "main" monero room is actually 2 separate rooms, IRC and matrix, it's not bad that any general discussions happen in -community

Community isnt for general discussion

nioc: i predict in 1-3 years #monero will also be bridged

#monero-general :D

selsta: make it happen this year and there will be something extra in your paycheck

i tried multiple times already and gave up lol

all requests go into nothing

ok, I'll double the payment

Selsta, we also need someone to create community-dev on the irc side :P

that should be easy since that channel does not have many users

compared to #monero it does not need special permission

when an IRC room is created first it gets bridged, when a matrix room is created first .......

wait, is this general discussion?

selsta: how much do we need to pay libera to dwal with #monero?

*deal

don't think the issue is on libera side

hmmm, I thought is was, as in permission

i think problem was pigeons asks for permissions -> by the time they give permission pigeons is busy so the whole thing gets nowhere

ah

also don't know if pigeons is even responsible for this at this point

DiegoSalazar[m]: ^^^^ can you help us

old buddy, old pal

selsta: tell him nioc asked

DiegoSalazar[m]: nioc asked :D

Hm

Ok. I'll have pigeons slot out some time for this tomorrow.

it worked \o/

dude, I just heard Majestic exit scammed?

Where

<DiegoSalazar[m]> "dude, I just heard Majestic exit..." <- How, I mean, it's not custodial. Exit scam would have very low output

yea I also don't understand what there is to exit scam apart from keeping the funds from a couple exchanges

It's just a rumor. Not trying to shit talk anyone.

They're listed as a sponsor for Haveno and now getmonero (when the nee merges are deployed)

nee->new

plowsof: this was why I was skeptical and wanted to see if anything more than scrubs could confirm or deny

I didn't hear anything but I also don't follow Telegram

selsta: you'd exit scam by getting people to send you money, and not sending them back. But yeah, low yield there

selsta: the rumor is primarily on Dread, the dark net reddit alternative

Im on Telegram, no reports in their room, have messaged their support to confirm xD

Telegram has several first and second hand accounts of people not receiving funds

that's all I know

MajesticBank^

are they on Matrix?

oh they are on IRC

Yeah

Telegram seems sus

DiegoSalazar[m]: when did these reports first pop up?

do they have some custodial service as well?

Cakewallet made a thread today about non verified telegram groups scamming people

*telescam

no custodial service

thx

They did have 0% fees recently for swapping monero to btc/ltc which ch happens when xmr funds sre

Are low*

Telegram claims that dread is where the reports are

I am not on dread

are we sure that's not people on the old chain? lol

Maybe tobtoht can confirm?

To quote from telegram (which is where I first saw the second-hand reports)

😭😭 no. No we cant. Rip

> Looks like an exit scam. Big announcement and warnings on dread. Sub has been deleted and dread accounts deleted and people reporting that they are not receiving their money

If anyone is on there and can confirm that would be great.

What telegram chat?

I was invited into their telescam channel and stayed for like 3 min cause it was gross

I just pinged them on oftc and let them know about concerns

but they're not very active there

on d/darknetmarkets someone reported that their sub has been emptied and mod deleted their accounts

I just DM them on twitter too

ofrnxmr[m]: This message was in @monero on telegram.

Obviously I will be very happy if this was a false alarm.

<plowsof> "Maybe tobtoht can confirm?" <- Yeah, they tried to clean their sub.

"There is little explanation for such actions if not to clean house and perform an exit scam. Without any explanation from the admin, Dread staff urges nobody use Majestic Bank."

I am happy that some d/darknetmarket drama brought DiegoSalazar[m] and needmoney90 back into this room at the same time

let us hope that many more exit scams will force them to grace us with their presence :D

I noted some concerns on telegram that I couldn't verify, asked diego, then came here to clarify after he asked here.

exit scams: bringing people together since 2015

I'm still waiting for an e-mail by MajesticBank for a code audit :(

I've been waiting long time for 2023

They wanted all the wownero

ready for funding - i did my part

selsta i think you said recently that lack of developer contribution is a big concern of yours regarding Monero. Why is it i don't see more of a push to create developer docs and training then?

perhaps i'm just missing it, but it seems to be a gap. i know 1 guy was working on something about 6 months ago but i don't see his name or his project mentioned too much

RavFX[m] it's custodial

wtf hasnt majestic been donating loads to monero projects and community?

r4v3r23[m]: yes does not make much sense

how would they even exit scam? they are a swap not full on exchange

NorrinRadd: don't think we can "train" people to become monero developers

they need some developer experience in the first place, ideally university degree or similar

r4v3r23[m]: Doesn’t make sense

selsta: MB was working on their own wallet last i spoke to them

r4v3r23[m]: Yes they told us that too

I am not saying it make sense, I am just relaying the red flags

I do not know what is going on

I wouldnt put it past users to be using the old chain

something doesnt add up

I've been calling attention to majesticbank's corrupt exchange quotes on their API for months. I feel validated

also the CCS balance isnt updating

its been over 10 blocks

plowsof: whos in charge

luigi

r4v3r23[m] it's not an atomic swap. theyr'e the middle man. all they have to do is not pay up

afaik

r4v3r23[m]: luigi1112:

maybe it's 1111 or 1111w

NorrinRadd: But that kind of scam would only last a day max right?

yes, they would take the money from a couple exchanges but still doesn't add up

NorrinRadd: so it must have been a massive swap for it to even be worthwhile

anyway im reserving judgement

Me too… doesn’t make sense

vikCake[m] how long until everyone that is loyal to them finds out? could be a long time. but i wouldn't be surprised if this is just people on the old chain either, as they make more money by being honest

Reserve judgement, but do not use until you have no questions.

NorrinRadd: Agreed

selsta yeah i do mean on-boarding uni grads. same as other coins are doing, but without having to buy them out. just good docs, code walk-throughs, classes even. a la chaincode

other coins have millions in funds monthly lol

also some chains have stuff on udacity, etc

I'm quite sure that is for programming on top of their chain and not for programming the core implementation itself

min

but I did not look into it

sry wrong window

NorrinRadd: This can be done. Do you have the time and capability of doing it? Submit a CCS funding proposal if you need funds.

Monero is permisionless. There are no CEOs for the core protocol.

selsta chaincode is core specifically and stuff on udemy is "building transactions" which is part of core as well... wallets at the least

Rucknium[m] i can't say i have the capability at this time. i'm interested in being a consumer of such material

i don't know, we would just need a couple more experienced devs :/

^ Since posting this, I joined the MAGIC Monero Fund committee and started recruiting researchers.

<NorrinRadd> "r4v3r23 it's not an atomic swap...." <- this. Why are people saying it's non-custodial?

idk

they take custody and then (normally) they pay you in return

yes

they are literally custodial in the sense that they take custody of your funds after sending

Rucknium[m] yeah that seems to be the working methodology. monero doesn't need central leadership per se, but there can still be other organizations that take it upon themselves to develop the next gen of developers

DiegoSalazar[m]: Yep.. even if for a few mins. Same as our providers.

NorrinRadd: I think documentation and training materials are badly needed. It's a question of someone(s) taking the initiative to do what is needed.

DiegoSalazar[m]: I meant they don't have some custodial wallet service or whatever that would allow them to do a larger exit scam

their exchange is custodial yes

Technically they (and any other exchange like them) can retain funds and ask for KYC n' stuff, not sure what's surprising

If that worries you, just do low amount txs

IIRC Majestic Bank did have deposit functionality

As in, you didn't always have to instant exchange, yet could deposit to an account

> There is little explanation for such actions if not to clean house and perform an exit scam. Without any explanation from the admin, Dread staff urges nobody use Majestic Bank.

Beyond cleaning their sub, looks like they set a different moderator for whatever reason, with reports being ~12h old.

If this is an exit scam, it's a horrible one. They didn't even try to re-assure users. It almost seems like they closed down in a rush.

Not to justify their behavior/say they didn't end up scamming anyone, as it looks like they did.

oh ok I did not know that they had a deposit functionality, I don't use swap exchanges in general

I looked at them a while ago because of their MoneroKon sponsorships

r4v3r23: thanks for reporting, can anyone confirm deposits are not appearing on the ccs page? i dont have access to a wallet right now to restore the ccs wallet / double check - keys here moneroexamples/generic-xmr-scanner 27f9915

Thankfully never used them

<ofrnxmr[m]> "Is it working yet?" <- lol

Definitely not.

Also, does anyone know if majestic bank is working? I just send 20k xmr to swap for cumcoin and have been waiting for 12 hours now (approximately)

cryptogrampy[m]: send me 10k xmr and i'll be sure it's included in the next block, just for you!

did anyone listen in on the thorchain discord event today? i wasn't able to make it

it was apparently 'privacy coin' focused

Should I post on /r/Monero or /r/xmrtrader they exit scammed?

I feel they were active enough on /r/Monero with their advertising we should have a post there

... xmrtrader with a crosspost to /r/Monero, mods are welcome to delete the crosspost if they disagree

IMHO, someone should attempt to confirm the information before spreading it further.

Rucknium[m]: I would've agreed if it wasn't for the fact Dread is definitive in their statements here

Which may require sacrifice of a few piconeros.

Which sure, that's a distinct community, yet MajesticBank was a DNM without question.

It was just one exposed to the clearnet with donations accordingly.

So given the history with such groups, and how the discussions there are definitive...

But yes, I posted "accused of" "find another exchange" in case.

What's the p-value on this hypothesis? :P

But I personally believe even if they do come back, their reputation is ruined at this point.

Also, they did wipe their account and subreedit.

*subdreadit

... subdread?

idk really don't use it

reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/wwwodb…_bank_accused_of_exit_scamming_find for my Monero post which got hit by automod

I do believe due to the amount of advertising they did on /r/Monero, this could be argued as justified, but I do really respect the tech/trade border in our community

reddit.com/r/xmrtrader/comments/www…_bank_accused_of_exit_scamming_find for the xmrtrader post which doesn't say anything definitively but does raise awareness, which is properly placed and standing

Apparently MB has no search results on /r/xmrtrader, yet several on /r/Monero reddit.com/r/Monero/search/?q=majestic%20bank&restrict_sr=1&sr_nsfw= 0_o

Gosh… never a boring day in Monero world

Last comment a month ago?

ill reserve judgement until i hear their side (dread mod account could have been hacked/phished) their telegram channels last message is from aug 15th , tumble weeds (3000 members in there)

I'm not passing judgement :P.

Majestic was active on GitHub within the last couple weeks

Last i heard from them was aug18

r4v3r23: I see donations of 0.0001, 4.8, 0.1, and 0.1312 XMR to the Seraphis CCS address with the CCS view key so far

so its definitely not updating , weird

I think there is often a lag. Not sure why

plowsof: Their account could've been hacked/the Dread mods could be lying. The issue is two-fold:

1) Reports of not paying out, not from Dread, yet from users.

2) Lack of statement from MB on any other account.

It's been ~24 hours since the initial questions opened about missing trades and ~12 hours since they were labelled an exit scam. They should've commented by now.

It seems like they exited, left the site up as a scam, yet also nuked their account (firing a flare it was a scam which is... weird as hell).

I would say it absolutely shouldn't be used until this is resolved, and people need to be aware of an active incident.

While I can hope an exchange won't scam and they'll come back, that doesn't mean we can ignore it, even if we do wait to pass judgement.

So I won't say they have exit scammed, yet I will say they've been accused and it's likely

What’s their telegram group ?

They have a Telegram user, MajesticBank, which they supposedly used. I don't know what groups DiegoSalazar[m] is referring to though.

also Majesticsupport ( the groups title is Exchange XMR BTC - MajesticBank ) unsure how to link, they dont have the verified symbol on their users also

plowsof: Just saw u in there 😂

So uh

You guys hear of atomic swaps?

There's no middleman so this type of stuff can't happen 👀

<kayabanerve[m]> "There's no middleman so this..." <- We are all waiting for u

:)

I was hoping to draw more attention to noot's ETH atomic swap work :p magicgrants.org/noot-ETH-XMR-Atomic-Swaps We're still trying to raise funds for that 👀

need atomic swaps between xmr and fiat