if i want to migrate my monero node from 1 computer to a different one, how do i do that?

i don't want to verify the entire chain all over again.

there's some way i can just copy the blockchain files over?

Copy > paste

yea just move the blockchain data from 1 pc to the other

on windows it's stored in programdata

os x ?

on linux it's ~/.bitmonero

dunno about osx

probably same as linux. i'll check

~/.bitmonero  du -h

122G ./lmdb

122G .

seems small?

I'm probably about 2 weeks behind on sync

a bit more than 2 weeks i reckon

im not running a full node rn so i cant tell how much it's supposed to be rn but github readme says it was 130gb last april

> As of April 2022, the full Monero blockchain file is about 130 GB.

dang how do i know if i have a pruned node?

i set this thing up years ago....

Sitting at ~139GB

i have 164k blocks to verify

so i'm 7.6 months behind 🤣

are tor nodes **only** accessible through tor?

Ivan Ivanov: funds are shown the right way now

swaps looking good so far

the conversions are really confusing or maybe even broken, why does selling 0.01 btc for 8 xmr suddenly make it cost 800 xmr

<monerobull[m]> "grafik.png" <- what is this?

<monerobull[m]> "the conversions are really..." <- In this case the 1 btc cost 800 xmr. This is the price at which you created the order

Ah ok, just very confusing without documentation

Doesn't this mean you don't know how much you will spend unless you convert it yourself?

monerobull[m]: You specify the amount you want to spend when you create an order

But as a taker you can't really predict the cost unless you convert yourself

Yes, in the order you do not set the price, but the number of coins.

Ivan Ivanov: how many confirmations are required for depositing, doing swaps, etc on both btc and xmr?

Default values for protocols are used.

i am seller 0a66b5df7ce00fac61d1e53a8a8be1b559a9bd35 who just spammed to books

The deposit should appear after one confirmation. After that, you can immediately create an order. During the swap the default values are used: 1 confirmation for btc and 10 for xmr

bitcoin is so slow, its painful to test this

Monerobull aka bob please do the needfull "Error: Refund (tbtc) transaction was not sent. Will try again after 5 min"

what are you talking about alice

grandpa slow

plowsof: I don't understand English very well. If possible, please make your questions simpler.

dont worry, we just wait for bitcoin confirmation

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why does it want to refund

Ivan Ivanov: is daemon still outdated?

or whatever builds the transactions

do not try this on mainnet* 😛

<monerobull[m]> "grafik.png" <- Each party to a transaction must not trust the other party. Therefore, the possibility of a refund or cancellation is periodically checked.

oh ok

the transaction building doesnt seem up to date

"Failed to submit signed tx: transaction was rejected by daemon"

monerobull[m]: Is it for xmr or for btc?

monerobull[m]: You're right. Something wrong with xmr transaction ((

probably just needs to be updated to fit the hardfork

needs viewtags

This is new since a few weeks

But a little earlier, the transaction worked for you

different one

IvanIvanov[m]: the monero tx in this screenshot is also not on the blockchain

Maybe you're right. Then we will have to wait for the monero-javascript library to be updated

ok, different question, how long before a swap times out and gets auto-refunded?

woodser is the monero-javascript dev in #monero-community-dev:monero.social he can help

<monerobull[m]> "ok, different question, how long..." <- The seller returns BTC to himself with the help of a previously signed transaction. The network will only accept this transaction after the first transaction has received 10 confirmations

The buyer can withdraw BTC with a Cancel transaction. The network will only accept this transaction after the first transaction has received 20 confirmations.

can this be done from the webui or is it automatic

monerobull[m]: It is automatic

ok, when javascript is fixed, amounts are less confusing and there is more documentation, this will be amazing

monero-javascript should be working (its updated to v0.18.1.0 already, so the problem should be somewhere else

plowsof: Probably we have an old version. Now we will try to update it

updated 16 days ago*

magicgrants.org/Monero-Tracing-Research

paraphrasing: from 9% to a 13.3% chance (with the aid of AI) in predicting the true spend. Now with 16 ring members these numbers will be even less

<plowsof> "paraphrasing: from 9% to a 13.3%..." <- 13% predicting a true spend from a tx with 11 signatures? Lmao, pathetic

With the aid of AI? What are they using as training data?

Because afaik training data effective for this purpose would need to resemble real world spend patterns and those are relatively unknown

needmoney90: Generated numerous transactions on stagenet. Paper:

So, yes it's limited since the training set is artificial.