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Martin77[m]
monero will be always on layer 1?
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CidadoisAncap[m]
Martin77[m]: No, they are already working on a layer 2
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ofrnxmr[m]
Who is they
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CidadoisAncap[m]
They
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ofrnxmr[m]
Who's working on layers for monero? Actively developed or researched?
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ofrnxmr[m]
Its been thought about but AFAIK no real work has ever been done and there is no interest from those capable.
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ofrnxmr[m]
Perhaps not "always" but for the forseeable future, yes.
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ofrnxmr[m]
Yes, layer 1*
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CidadoisAncap[m]
ofrnxmr[m]: I was told, by the monero future roadmap(getmonero.org/resources/roadmap) that there is already a plan for implementing a layer 2 solution for scalability and speed
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ofrnxmr[m]
plowsof:
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CidadoisAncap[m]
And seth for privacy already made a slide presentation introducing the concept and advantages for a layer 2 solution
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ofrnxmr[m]
"Its been thought about but AFAIK no real work has ever been done and there is no interest from those capable."
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ofrnxmr[m]
If anyone knows the name of any such project, please name it for me
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nioc
layer 2
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nioc
.lenny
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plowsof
the marketing department have asked for "layer 2" on the roadmap
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ofrnxmr[m]
<CidadoisAncap[m]> "I was told, by the monero future..." <- Pretty sure those icons next to then listings mean 1 under construction and 2 a compass, meaning we'll get there eventually (maybe). Layer 2 being the latter
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plowsof
the hive mind on reddit hates "layer 2"
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plowsof
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ofrnxmr[m]
Layer 2 will be good for enterprise
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ofrnxmr[m]
But until those enterprises come fund it, they can stick with lightning
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plowsof
depends what we consider "layer 2" -> could even be the discussion around quicker in person point of sales by - sending a tx directly to the merchants node
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ofrnxmr[m]
^^^
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ofrnxmr[m]
I was thinking about mining pools or interbank transfers
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ofrnxmr[m]
Stores can accept cash aka layer 1
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ofrnxmr[m]
Or card / visa aka layer 2
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ofrnxmr[m]
One requires the user to deposit funds to the layer 2 aka bank
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ofrnxmr[m]
But yeah.. right now layer 2 is a bit of a joke.
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ofrnxmr[m]
Its not economically feasible for those running the network and has a terrible ux to boot
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CidadoisAncap[m]
Btc layer 2 is a distaster
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CidadoisAncap[m]
Custodial lightning, centralized routing hub, no l1 scalability
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plowsof
as long as layer 2 is not ' rent a subaddress from from a bank '
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CidadoisAncap[m]
If monero someday implement layer 2, it needs to learn from bitcoin's mistakes
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ofrnxmr[m]
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ofrnxmr[m]
Cidadois Ancap:
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ofrnxmr[m]
That link goes to research _lounge_
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ofrnxmr[m]
Lounge is a more laid back place to loosely discuss research related topics.
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ofrnxmr[m]
We try to keep _lab_ limited to actual research
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vz25t9mkowhyfy[m
who here wants an easy commission job with zero investment besides your time and you can make monero on your own spare time
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vz25t9mkowhyfy[m
all you need to do is message me and ill show you the job on video
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ofrnxmr[m]
Onlyfans?
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vz25t9mkowhyfy[m
no
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vz25t9mkowhyfy[m
message me
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vz25t9mkowhyfy[m
but i need to charge this phone a bit
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vz25t9mkowhyfy[m
im on graphene os and mullvad
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vz25t9mkowhyfy[m
what about you
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ofrnxmr[m]
Im on shrooms
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ofrnxmr[m]
I think youre in the wrong room.
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ofrnxmr[m]
R u sure youre not looking for an eth defi chat, or some other dark alleyway to swindle newbs?
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ofrnxmr[m]
Tdlr, no scamming + wrong room if its not a scam / wrong people if it is = wasting everybody's time
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Martin77[m]
<CidadoisAncap[m]> "No, they are already working..." <- nice
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Martin77[m]
<CidadoisAncap[m]> "Btc layer 2 is a distaster" <- i currently love rollups solution that eth & ada used but they currently still in beta
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Martin77[m]
lightning might work well on monero since opening channel would be very cheap unlike in bitcoin + anonymous
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Martin77[m]
lightning might work for a reward system or for specific application
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Martin77[m]
like ingame xmr transfer , dvpn rewards , iot and much more
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devduck[m]
happy diwali
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devduck[m]
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Martin77[m]
linux distro that don't takes up to much resources and can be used as a daily driver?
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Martin77[m]
my current distro already very light in resources though compared to win11
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Martin77[m]
i used mint
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ofrnxmr[m]
<Martin77[m]> "linux distro that don't takes up..." <- #monero:monero.social
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cryptogrampy[m]
<monerobull[m]> "Is grampy still alive?" <- hi
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cryptogrampy[m]
have been quite sick the past couple weeks and very busy switching nursing homes
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ofrnxmr[m]
plowsof: any word from johnfoss?
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plowsof
left a reddit pm (his last activity there was 11 days ago) and a comment on the gitlab. i've not tried to contact his twitter handle
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plowsof
ive not contacted him on twitter, last activity there was october 19th it seems)
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ofrnxmr[m]
After the discussion I invite everybody to cast their votes here on GitLab, where we can easily weed out meaningless votes of sock puppets, like @nope and @nahuhh .
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ofrnxmr[m]
Mj is kinda slow 😆
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ofrnxmr[m]
"@johnfoss67 During the meeting, I also give you full right to ignore voices of other sock puppets of the same person, namely (in the order of the given sock puppet's freshness): ofrnxmr, 123ooo123*, w & wfaresussia"
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ofrnxmr[m]
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Siren[m]
Imagine having FOSS in your name but your blog is proprietary and full of trackers
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Siren[m]
Bruh
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plowsof
all meeting logs are public, in one of the meetings an 'anti MJ' person was present , and i said ' you can have your chance to say what you want to him please let us discuss the other matters first ' and this person waited patiently to voice their opinions
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plowsof
i also requested a public apology from mj for making a death threat toward that person and he voluntarily left this room / didn't want to attend meetings anymore
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ofrnxmr[m]
He didnt voluntarily leave
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ofrnxmr[m]
He threw a temper tantrum, refused to apologize, claimed he would not take back what he said and then went and wrote a victim letter kn Reddit to garner support for his scamming ccs for development
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plowsof
(was it a real death threat? im 99% certain it was just someone reacting to being pushed to their limits by someone challenging their every move for months) but, other people have been banned for life / cancelled from this room for the same things
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ofrnxmr[m]
No
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ofrnxmr[m]
I asked him a question
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ofrnxmr[m]
And he said he should shoot ooo
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ofrnxmr[m]
Ooo wasnt even around
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ofrnxmr[m]
Was it a real death threat? Obv not. Twitter fingers. Nobody is afraid of mj shooting them. But you cant cancel rotten for less and then claim its perfectly ok for mj to do it
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ofrnxmr[m]
Call me Mr. NoBullshit
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ofrnxmr[m]
I wasnt trying tl start a fight
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ofrnxmr[m]
All I had said was "7760 sits unreviewed while we run bad code. Is it true that nobody can review it?"
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Martin77[m]
linux distro for gigachads?
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plowsof
(i use arch linux btw)
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ofrnxmr[m]
Martin77[m]: Wrong chat
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ofrnxmr[m]
And he replied with "wouldnt the world be a better place if I shot ooo dead"
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ofrnxmr[m]
Tldr. Mj was mad at ooo because ooo notices that mj was ripping off the community
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ofrnxmr[m]
Mj responded by ripping off the community in public
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plowsof
hearsay your honour , strike everything from the record after "Tldr."
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ofrnxmr[m]
Also. You cent be mad that someone noticed that you were ripping off the community. Maybe next time.. dont be a pos?
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ofrnxmr[m]
Its not hearsay
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ofrnxmr[m]
Mj did it in public afterwards
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Martin77[m]
ofrnxmr[m]: no lounge chat in monero.social?
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Martin77[m]
plowsof: how about artix ?
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ofrnxmr[m]
#monero:monero.social
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ofrnxmr[m]
Also, mj is on GitLab accusing me of being a ooo's sock puppet 😆
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ofrnxmr[m]
Guy is bonkers.
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ofrnxmr[m]
Everyone knows im luigi
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Siren[m]
<Martin77[m]> "linux distro for gigachads?" <- Void linux