<stnby[m]> "Use matrix, tox or session..." <- Note that qTox has been removed from Whonix

due to security issues (forums.whonix.org/t/tox-qtox-whonix-integration/1219/35)

is bitcoin better store of value than precious metal?

martin03[m]: where monero?

<NorrinRadd> "martin03: where monero?" <- busy getting's strength to own everything else.

That aside I would not use bitcorn as a store of value

I keep monero and some precious metals in case (keep both).

Same should apply if you hold bitcorn.

Wonder how long the Ponzi effect of bitcoin will last.

Few more halvings and they can't pay for security anymore

When all the hedge funds pull out

Anyone interested in joining a company I’m trying to build that helps adopt monero around the world, send me a dm

Preferably in the US or in third world nations but open to all and state you expertise or area of work when applying

hit me up with any questions as well

Why do you need a company?

Also I don't suggest third world nations

Unless you live in one

Latest issue just published. Cheers 👍

59 as well

I noticed the return via dancers new website

Glad to see it 🔥

johnfoss68[m], great!

<ofrnxmr[m]> "Glad to see it 🔥" <- Thanks! Yeah Monero Dancer is a great site, it's a good one stop shop for Monero, reminiscent of monero.how! Seems like it's one of the best places to redirect newcomers with no prior knowledge of Monero

Interesting post, in Retarddit of all places: old.reddit.com/r/ask/comments/102c6…nter_cashless_societywhat_stops_the

<Mumuks> "Interesting post, in Retarddit..." <- Yeah, so the going problem is that they trust institutions enough that they can think that something "can be done about it" instead of "make your own parallel system and fuck off from the current one". No one wants to fuck off, though. I think it's really about part of us fucking off from the system and sadly having to watch others go into slavery.

still_stuck[m]: Well, it is Retarddit so that is expected. At least even they see the problem even if their solutions are variations of ask the overlords to be nice.

the system is cozy

fucking off sounds cold and scary

Yeah, and no one is going to tell them that their cozyness is someone being cold and scared for them.

The ‘godfather of crypto’ wants to create a privacy-focused CBDC: Here’s how

David Chaum is working with the Swiss central bank to develop a central bank digital currency (CBDC) that could also attract the crypto ecosystem due to its privacy features.

Was already suspicious based on cooperation with BIS, but when I got to

> “You can withdraw $500 every day with your ATM card, but you can’t walk into a bank and withdraw $1,000,000 in cash — that’s privacy for the people,” Chaum explained. It should be similar in electronic payment systems, he noted. “Those systems should make it very difficult for someone to gather enough and use it for bad purposes, like hiring a hitman without being noticed.”

I lost all interest even reading about it.

Let's bad all cars since bank robbers use to get away.

He may be a godfather of whatever, but he's been bought.

*ban

Ah yes if someone needs more than 500 in cash it's totally for crime /s

Also

> “You can withdraw $500 every day with your ATM card, but you can’t walk into a bank and withdraw $1,000,000 in cash — that’s privacy for the people,”

What kind of twisted logic is that? How is _any_ definition of _privacy_? Sound more like ball'n'chains.

*is that any

Hey y'all,

Hey y'all, I'm the dev of 'CypherPunk Radio'.... (full message at <libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/do…f2b3b65e247a4d08e61e501d4f48de6c255>)

Looks interesting

Can we selfhost this

I don't want to ever have something funded that just disappears after 2 months again

<monerobull[m]1> "Can we selfhost this" <- Yes it can be

The code is all there

Some simple documentation on how to get it running would be great

That's something I can work on as well :)

It's not hard as it is right now but I will make easier

NotMtth: I'd like to try listening on i2p, but i2pmirror/channel leads nowhere, also i2pmirror.i2p/channel. How can I tune in via i2p?

I2P is currently not working

I'm trying to figure it out

You can stream for Tor only now

Thanks for pointing it out

Ah, ok. No problem. Thanks for doing this!

:)

Let me know if you want me to test. I'm running i2pd.

Looks like this needs to be updated as the moneroaddress.org link/hyperlink is a redirect to a MyMonero page on how to create a paper wallet.

plowsof: wasnt this killed already, or why still in limbo

> <@jbakosi:matrix.org> Was already suspicious based on cooperation with BIS, but when I got to... (full message at <libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/do…3a2b2182661dfbc7c3c214956bdfadc0600>)

monerokon press release will be going out soon. anyone wants to say something about monerokon and be quoted.. monerokon.prowly.com/221722-3rd-ann…ralization-in-blockchain-technology

still_stuck: Hah. As an example from history, the fathers of the American revolution knew that well already. But propaganda nowadays is probably more effective than ever.

jozsef[m]: Not only on that level, more also in the sense that, if I chip you and turn you into my mind-slave such that you won't commit evil acts, I've already murdered you and just let your body walk around and live.

> <@jbakosi:matrix.org> still_stuck: Hah. As an example from history, the fathers of the American revolution knew that well already. But propaganda nowadays is probably more effective than ever.

* Not only on that level, more also in the sense that, if I chip you and turn you into my mind-slave such that you won't commit evil acts, I've already murdered you and am just letting your body walk around and live.

🚣‍♂️ #monero-offtopic:monero.social

<jozsef[m]> "Let me know if you want me to..." <- I2P streaming works

Solved the stupid mistake I made

Try and let me know :)

NotMtth: DM.

ofrnxmr: its time to start voting for sure, we said definitely kill at the next meeting if no updates / proof of concepts are seen (its been a month) now we've got updates to look at

Voting on the 7th sounds fine

Most proposals are old, koe's us self explanitory

Koe is the only new one, right?

yep

jozsef: share your experience if possible

Sure, with the help of NotMtth I got streaming to work both with mplayer (on the command line) as well as within firefox, both via i2pd.

With mplayer the connection was a bit skipping and inside the browser was significantly better, less skipping but still bit. We are not sure what causes this but currently my i2pd channel create rate is as low as 12% which I have not seen as low as this. This could be a cause. Otherwise, it works. I also added a couple of songs to the pool, using a youtube id. Overall it works.

jozsef: I meant to say please* share

thanks

should the details of the spanish / cake wallet sponsorship be made public?

i thought that would be a major issue

Yes

you're sustainable now but coming back to the ccs

NotMtth:

Technically, I wonder, if i2pd streaming requires new channel creation all the time while streaming or (which would make more sense to me) a channel needs to be established once and then the download/stream would just flow, so a streaming-type load could be more stable. I'm interested in learning more about how this kind of stuff works within i2p/i2pd.

does xmr.radio suffer the same issues over i2p?

Cannot reach xmrradio.i2p (within i2p).

thank you for testing ajs_

olwxvhwaq422rcrlmvh6wgrdczyfyeag645du4cwncutqblkfmaq.b32.i2p

I had to lower stream quality to 128 kbs

And the number of loops

`xmrradio.i2p last seen: 2023-01-04 15:07:15`

Idk seems online

Also streaming over tor kxmrdbwcqbgyokjbiv7droplwhxvli3s7yv5xddxgrtajdpdebgzzzqd.onion

Neither olwxvhwaq422rcrlmvh6wgrdczyfyeag645du4cwncutqblkfmaq.b32.i2p nor xmrradio.i2p open for me. Other i2p pages load fine. Not sure what I'm doing wrong.

jozsef: did you just start i2pd?

It might take a few hours to make connections with in the network

No, restarted almost an hour ago. Other i2p pages load fine (contents appear not from browser cache).

Popular i2p sites usually links up more quickly

Can someone please do me a favor and tell me if this loads and if so how long? sprout.i2p:18089/get_info Thanks.

<jozsef[m]> "Can someone please do me a favor..." <- Yeah

duckduckgo has an onion address but doesnt make it obvious or allow tor browser to switch to it automagically