<r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> Potential CCS

<4​rkal:matrix.org> If anyone is participating in hacktoberfest I have added the hacktoberfest tag to the MoneroOS GitHub so that all contributions made to MoneroOS will count towards your hacktoberfest total.

<4​rkal:matrix.org> I urge other members of the community to do the same. Just takes like 30 seconds and you might get some new contributors

<4​rkal:matrix.org> More info: hacktoberfest.com/participation

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> Ideas page 50% funded ccs.getmonero.org/funding-required 🫡 and we have a new CCS proposal idea today from the Atomic Swaps Desktop GUI repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/411

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> @plowsof regarding bp++, are we going to "edit" the old ccs? Or

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> open a new one for 32k and transfer old funds? Or

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> or just open a new one for 7k difference?

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> ofrnxmr or insta top up from general fund. core will be around to discuss it

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> this week* (they have to be here to handle release) so we just twiddle our thumbs for a bit

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> what do you think? my wish was just a GF top up (with the new scope to be merged onto the CCS page)

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> GF didn't [have time to] donate to the initial proposal. Funds were raised too quickly.

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> GF, imo, should donate this time around.

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> This sounds good 2 me

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> we're also getting closer to obtaining an invoice for this proposal "this week" (ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/36c3.html . no idea of the amount unpaid yet, but it will hopefully free up some more funds for the project.

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> ```

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> We are asking for 560 XMR to make this happen. Our budget can be viewed on this Google Sheet. (yeah yeah, google. Save the flak. We're working on it.) WARNING! Because it is Google, use a private or incognito window to open it unless you don't mind a Google related identity leaking.

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> ```

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Dan r/dark (Is not the man & Braxman Tomsparks Advocate ): haha

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Diego must have got pitchforked before he could finish

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Now we have a dead taiga instance and midi's google drive

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> GUPAX has been maintained for around 9 months now ~ ... bigmenpixel is still maintaining the flathub monero-gui however is being delayed (through no fault of his own) from unlocking the first milestone

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> the flathub monero-gui issue was also promised to be resolved "next week"

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Bigmenpixel has been doing the work for a long time. Nothing but appreciation for his time and efforts.

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> 55eur/xmr

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Since these invoices are paid in fiat rates

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Are we loading up the jetfund with the overage?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Paying ~200xmr instead of 560

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Still 28k

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> 50% of the funds where released / paid - so there are 280 left to pay the mystery invoice

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> id like it if some of the general fund was used to provide liquidity on serai

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> So 14k was released?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> so 100 more xmr

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> general fund expiry on refund for 2500 xmr is soon, i think? Need to check bF's reddit post

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> when MAGIC gets a proposal to 'add liquidity to my DeX' what happens monerobull 😄

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> ```

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Last October we received a massive (2500 XMR) donation, and the donor expressed the intent of purchasing the domain Monero.com. After discussions with the current owner of that domain, we did not come to an agreement. If the person who donated 2500 XMR were to reach out to me, I am willing to refund this donation to them, as an exception. For practical reasons, this offer will not<clipped message>

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> stand indefinitely, so I will set a deadline of 1st of September 2023 for this person to contact me directly and prove themselves cryptographically.

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> ```

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> cant

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> So.. were keeping the money for development. Right??

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> conflict of interest thanks to kayaba

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Sept 1 passed

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> in general, "give my DeX liquidity" is rejected

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> thats a vc thi;

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Thing

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> I dont even like the haveno kickbacks. Makes us look like we profit off of bad actors

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> yeah but in case serai doesnt raise a lot of xmr itself (which i honestly doubt), using fund funds to provide liquidity could be a legitimate service to the community

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Its not for community though, but for traders

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> yeah...

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> id rather have people swap through serai than get shotgun kyced by an instant exchanger

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> also, the general fund would earn trade fees on otherwise idle assets

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Dangeous

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> get shotgun kyced by an instant exchanger -> or lose your life savings on an exchange

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Gf isnt decentralized at all

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> both possible scenarios

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Feds can prove you profit off of crimes if they can track serai trades paying GF

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> hm good point

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> serai will make me rich so we all ned to make it work

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> GF is a neutral party, at least it should be. Ive always felt bad about haveno paying GF off of trades

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> does haveno even do that in the current setup

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i dont think they have clarified where the fees go

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Probably not

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> It was promised, but thats a backend promise

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> 2500 xmr - 40% shall go to alpharabius for his next business venture and the rest to serai

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> and we didnt pay for the backend, cake did

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> after 1 year we can see how our financials are

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> I assume cake gets kickbacks and gf will get cut out (which is ideal)

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> +1

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> again, i doubt serai will need it

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> also, more fees for me /s

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> man i cant wait

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> ever since thorchain / haven announced they are working on integrating xmr

did I miss meeting announcement?

<4​rkal:matrix.org> Anyone got any ideas on how I should proceed with my ccs proposal? (repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/408)

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> to be honest, close it

<d​rived> Is this connected to a telegram?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> dont think so

<d​rived> Then where do these webhooks come from?

<d​rived> Been wondering

<4​rkal:matrix.org> Tbh I'm really not asking for much. Just electricity + time spent maintaining. The only difference between my mirror and recanmans is that I have an incentive to keep on hosting it (the ccs).

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> ok but i dont get paid to run my monero node

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i still run it

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i bet recman has similar reasons to run his mirror as i have to run my node

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> and so do thousands of other people :P

<4​rkal:matrix.org> This isn't a node tho. By running a node you have additional privacy benefits . You personally benefit. Don't trust; verify. Running a gitea instance is rather mundane but essential for Monero. Idk maybe recanman keeps it up but for how long?

hbergeronioc soon , not this saturday but next (will put it up shortly)

<4​rkal:matrix.org> You can sadly not only rely on good will

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> bro i can spin up an instance based purely on good will right now and keep it running indefinitely

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> my server is running anyways

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i bet recanman has similar reasons to run his mirror as i have to run my node

4rkal this is a difficult situation - you want to contribute with the means you have available and we commend you for it. there are comments on your CCS which show that it is not essential and that there are other systems in place (which the general fund sponsors)

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> and so far, relying on good will has worked while at the same time a "ccs to run git monero instance" has literally scammed us

<4​rkal:matrix.org> Guys as I have said before. You cannot call yourself a privacy project and really on GitHub.

<4​rkal:matrix.org> Have you read the proposal in detail? As I mentioned there the funds (0.1 xmr) should be paid out on a monthly basis. If the mirror is still running. Otherwise nothing is owed

i do however see that 'i have these means available / knowledge to contribute' being countered with 'I have more means / more knowledge to contribute so go away' is #mean

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> sowwy plow

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> 4rkal: not to be mean and i dont think youll scam us but the effort is probably not worth the benefit

4rkal has iirc been sent more funds than the proposal on accident and returned them in good faith so we have evidence that you are not a scammer. its just that as the comments show, there are other things, not only GitHub that will keep the project going if SHTF

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Close

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> After pulling teeth

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> From bothbsides

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> But close. If you want to host it, go for it

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Maybe come back in a year and ask for funds to continue

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Monero.fail gets 0 funding

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Wownero gets 0 funding

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> A gitea instance is great. Were not going to develop on yours though, its just a mirror..

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> btw why does gittea cost 0.1 xmr per month, isnt it just hosting some files?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> (idk how resource intensive it is)

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> If its "so important" > just do it

<4​rkal:matrix.org> Returned 90% of the funds, then got bullied during my vacation to send 8$ to each user. Got DMS on every known platform for 8$

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> yeah

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> your ccs now

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> And your bounty then

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> are a waste of resources

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Please close

now you are being mean to those who consider $8 as being alot

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> what was this previous thing about?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Time is money. Plowsof has been paid more than your ccs total, just to reply twice

a monero bounties 'split' payout - the pot was sent to 4rkal , and he refunded

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Mistakes were made.

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> 3rd times the charm?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Ill pass 🚮

<4​rkal:matrix.org> Electricity plus time spent maintaining. Needs updating and general time

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> 1xmr

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Go kuno that

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Or ask on twitter

<4​rkal:matrix.org> I've spend way to much time to get 1.2 XMR if this doesn't move forward I will close it.

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Vik gives that away everyday

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> yeah jsut ask for donos

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> yeah just ask for donos

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> this would actually be one of the most valid kunos

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> "pay for my breast enlargement surgery" lmao

<4​rkal:matrix.org> Kuno is not a good platform, would prefer if I didn't do it there. Will probably try to selfhost the one the monerochan art thingy uses.

<4​rkal:matrix.org> Would prefer it could go through ccs tho

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i believe plowsof can help you with that :P

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Super close

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> (the wishlist hosting)

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Why is kuno not good?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> why is ccs better?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> a: Exposure

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> ... money isnt free

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> If you cant get 1xmr for your idea by campaigning, welll, its not worth ir

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Sorry, 0.1xmr/mth

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Or 0.25xmr/week

<4​rkal:matrix.org> Kuno is full of scams . Would rather not associate myself with that.

<4​rkal:matrix.org> CCS has a high funding rate and will be hassle free. Would prefer if I didn't have to beg on twtr for donations

<4​rkal:matrix.org> Either way this has been a huge waste of time

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> hey, maybe something good will come out of it

is this where i say "but i didn't do anything" and you say "exactly" then shut the door in my face and we dont talk for the rest of the day

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i wasted so much time fighting bot spam on reddit that i gave up and set up an entirely new platform

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> maybe youll go out and revolutionize monero backups

<4​rkal:matrix.org> Will check out if it's possible to commit to the gitea instance and somehow create a PR on GitHub. That would be a game changer

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/dhtqGqbgmACBkSCWhtKxCqVe

<4​rkal:matrix.org> You'd be able to contribute via tor without having to mess with GitHub shit

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> if you download this, do you have a backup already? i dont believe monero is only like 12 mb

<r​ucknium:monero.social> You can already do a PR to monero through IRC

<r​ucknium:monero.social> Post a raw patch in -dev

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> not having to deal with IRC is already a huge improvement :P

<t​obtoht:monero.social> GitHub doesn't prohibit Tor

<4​rkal:matrix.org> You do need an account don't you?

monero node projects (moneronodo/PiNode/AndroidTermuxNode) could add an optional git fetch/pull daily task

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> does anyone know the answer to this?

<t​obtoht:monero.social> Yes, you have a full copy of the source code if you clone a repo

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> and its only 13.8 mb

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> wow

<t​obtoht:monero.social> If you download the zip you'll only have the latest revision.

<t​obtoht:monero.social> Every dev with a recent pull can provably restore the repo in the event that GH kicks us off. It's a non-issue.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i see

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> still impressive that its so small

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i guess its just code

<4​rkal:matrix.org> Anyone know what monerochan.art . Is using? Pretty sure there used to be a github link

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> mayba plowsof can help github.com/plowsof/xmr-wishlist-aaS

<a​js_:matrix.org> any reddit mod here?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> yeah

<a​js_:matrix.org> nvm

<a​js_:matrix.org> looks like post was approved

Rino makes enterprise wallet free? rino.io/blog/free-enterprise-wallet

<a​js_:matrix.org> yep

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> how does rino make money?

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> in-wallet xmr swaps is one source i think

<a​js_:matrix.org> there is a small margin in swaps

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> do i qualify for a costco card if i show them my enterprise rino wallet (asking for a friend)

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> ah didnt see that they offer swaps

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> rino is cool

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> cutest logo, good community services like faucets, nice product

<e​ndor00:matrix.org> Which is why there's a selfhosted gitLab server which hosts a copy of the monero code, which gets all updates and issues mirrored from the main github repo

<e​ndor00:matrix.org> Aka literally the server on which you submitted your ccs proposal

<e​ndor00:matrix.org> (Btw, is anyone cleaning up the gitlab groups? They're full of spam)

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/cfnnJTeUenlUrOUgoCMbfINX

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Storage is so cheap I use nvme drives to do the spacing for post stamps /s

<4​rkal:matrix.org> Hmm. Looks like the only repo mirrored was the monero-site. But that was 3 years ago.

<e​ndor00:matrix.org> Hmmm I swear I remember a clone of the main monero repo somewhere... or is it not up anymore?

endor00 git.wownero.com/monero-project/monero

<e​ndor00:matrix.org> huh, alright

<e​ndor00:matrix.org> lol, and it's gitea too

<n​ekothegamer_> forjeio is better

<n​ekothegamer_> gitea has turned corporate imo

<n​ekothegamer_> gitea has turned corporate

<r​ottenwheel:nokyc.im> endor00 git.hackliberty.org/Git-Mirrors/monero

thx rotten

hbergeron: my pleasure. <3

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> Whats that for?

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> Doesn’t stop ip address logging and probably makes you unique

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> old ccs

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> matrix.to/#/!WzzKmkfUkXPHFERgvm:mat…cial&via=matrix.org&via=libera.chat

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Dan r/dark (Is not the man & Braxman Tomsparks Advocate ):

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> are asking for 560 XMR to make this happen. Our budget can be viewed on this Google Sheet. (yeah yeah, google. Save the flak. We're working on it.) WARNING

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> Soon™️

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> He was run out of the community. Blame the heroine

<r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> Less than 200mb ram, very low cpu, very low disk other than repositories

<r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> Yes. I've been wanting to, just forgot. 4rkal's CCS reminded me.

<r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> My next project is to get a node running, but I don't have an ssd in my servers

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> New rule all css proposers must have monero node running

<r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> I'll keep it up for as long as I can, and I have cheap electricity, reliable uptime, and good infrastructure

<r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> Why?

<r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> You don't have the submodules and other libraries

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Why not :P

I haz node running

what CCS payments do I qualify for?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> if i told ya, id get banned

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> Puts a smile on plowsof ai face :)

do you mean Cat Community Service

Cat likes the sound of that