<a​nddn:matrix.org> I can't imagine. A 0% markup.

<m​onerobull:monero.social> it's true

<n​ononynous:monero.social> You can get cashback with other services

<n​ononynous:monero.social> I have a provider giving me 3% on visa cards I buy

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> For xmr?

the automated swap broker (ASB) for COMIT atomic swaps is selling monero. the monero has the x% markup, right

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> yes

i see value in the proposed ASB automation changes (also because the few big swappers complained about needing that) because at the moment is set and forget / manual restart (rates for example)

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> For who? Bitcoiners?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> samourai was the best atomic swaps client we ever had

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> You cant post monero liquidity

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> am i missing something? the ASB sells monero?

repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/c…als/-/merge_requests/477#note_25561 contains a recent update (Maker GUI + ASB automation) , i see no value in the maker gui or don't believe the reasons provided for its need / what it would accomplish

the asb are dumping montero for dirty btc so have to charge a markup to account for all the whirlpooling

the whirlpooling isnt autmated so they cant make as much money / or their competitor has it set up and theyre sad

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> I saw the updates, but i if makers are btc-only, i dont see why that would benefit monerl

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Its a tool for btc holders to sell btc

if i was a big swapper i would be funding it privately , long time ago if i was pushing 6k~xmr out the door

so its valuable improvements for the big ASB's

maker gui for weekend warriors who leave their laptop on, nope

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> maker gui is for _btc whales_

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> maker is monero only

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> ?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Taker is monero

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> What am i missing here

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> no?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> ofrn you work on basicswapdex

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> how tf dont you know the one major limitation of btc xmr atomic swaps

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> And?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> the limitation is that you can only post btc

the major limitation of COMIT swaps

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> = btc is the maker

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> no bitcoin is always taker

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Xmr is the taker

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> What??

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> wat

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Do you have taker and maker mixed up

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> now im confused

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> no xmr is maker

ASB has monero in a wallet. they 'take' the btc or they have 'maker'd the offer to sell monero for btc ? lol

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Maker is the side who posts the offer

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Taker ks the side that takes from maker

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> they are the ones you go to to swap your btc

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Its the opposite. Because I say so!

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Makers are the ones who have offers on the books

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> the btc side goes first and the btc side if the side that posts the offers

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Is*

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/ZaCKALvQTaQhoAbaEsMWiric

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> you can. maker sells btc. Taker buys btc

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> btc goes first but the ASB is still the maker

monerobull mentioned the maker gui in passing on a ccs comment, are you pleased about the recent update adding maker gui development?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> the asbs offers are what the btc person can chose from

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> The ask is an auto taker

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Asb

we can finally fund 7- hours a week on unstoppable swap gui for 6 months

70*

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> It cant post an offer binarybaron:

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> ofrn it doesnt matter if it technically is the taker, the offers are only there while the ASB is online and the ASB sets the fees. ASB is obviously the maker here

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> It cant post an "xmr for sale" offer, it can only take a matching available btc offer

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> The maker is the one who puts the offer on the book

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> The ask looks to me like basicswaps "bid" script

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> It crawls maker offers for a match

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> if the only way to get xmr is via the ASB and it auto-accepts offers fitting its settings, I'd say its still the maker

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> nah, thats a bid scriot

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> A taker script

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> ah whatever it doesnt matter, what does is that the ASB having a gui doesnt help "btc whales" but people who want to provide xmr liquidity

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Basicswap has this already and its obviously not the maker.

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Bsx also has a maker script

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> You cant _provide_ liquidity if you cant post offers

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> You csn only _purchase_ btc

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Youre not providing liquidity by taking liquidity off of the book

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> signaling that you have this many monero at this fee level is definitely providing liquidity

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Thats why its called a taker

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Unless im missing something, youre not signing. Youre just buying what btc is available when you find a matxh

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Signaling*

proof of reserves will be added to the gui to stop fake offers?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> just proofs how much more advanced samourai gui was

lets up the hours and add that too

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> can we just pay someone to dig up the samourai gui code, the original maintainer isn't even in jail like the other samourai guys

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> bsx already

we should turn it into haveno and bsx in one

300 hours a week

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> I know ppl are going to shout "coi", but i only started working in bsx _because_ you csn provide xmr liquidity aka bidirectional swaps

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> other swap protocol only allow me to provide xmr liquidity. Only allows me to take liquidity of other coins

ok so a maker gui with proof of reserves , and maybe even a fee to list , but its permissionless /decentralised so we have to figure that out too

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> hehe it still partially works

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/XYHQQKnKsmoqBWVdBSYCtojU

and it _could_ be web based.. or android.. alot to figure out

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> "seller" all btc

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Seller = maker

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Can you be a seller of xmr in that list?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> yeah but the sellers sell monero

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> yeas you can

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> via this tab

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> thats why i said bitcoin is the taker

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> I see min btc, max btc

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Btc js the MAKER

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> in the samourai swaps you could select from the seller list and send them bitcoin

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> You have your terms backwards

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> no

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> these are the prices in btc becuasue you send btc to buy monero

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> these are the prices in btc bcs you send btc to buy monero

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> The prices are in monero.. the amoubts are in btc

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/hoPktwoRmJhaezIFPdeOROYb

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> because samourai are still bitcoin maxis...

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> also if you want to buy monero and only have bitcoin, the minimum amount of btc to spend is more helpful than the minimum amount of xmr to buy

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> and its also more helpful to price it in bitcoin as the seller since the biggest issue of the swap, the bitcoin fees, is easier to plan with a bitcoin minimum than a xmr minimum

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> i see i see, even though btc goes first, the offers on the book are monero offers. I stand corrected 👍

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> yeah the person with monero is always available and who btc-holders will go to for a swap

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> in the swap itself bitcoin initiates but they can only do so because the monero is made available by the ASB

<o​rangefren:monero.social> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…ero.social/vKnURSRvZECzYxWGPDGBvRhP

<o​rangefren:monero.social> OrangeFren.com and Cake Wallet are doing a jacket giveaway 🎁

<o​rangefren:monero.social> Link to participate: x.com/OrangeFren/status/1818581535341080871

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> is this a new jacket or the one that was given away at monerokon?

<o​rangefren:monero.social> Same as at Monerokon

there is a new CCS which includes "adding new content and following social media (such as Reddit and Monero.town)"

.hmmmm

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> lol

<3​21bob321:monero.social> So is that to maintain website github?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> It's to keep contributing to monero-site repo on a consistent basis

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Hardened has a lot of prs on site

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> The reddit thing is just to that theyll keep up to date with social media reported issues

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Adding nee content to monero-site*

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> and following social media to identify new issues and feature requests for those who do not use GitHub etc.

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> the full sentence provides proper context, niocat

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> (Its not a ccs to add content to social media and to follow social media)

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/481

site master monerobull appoves :)

imma just having my first cup of tea now

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Finger on pulse?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Who's doing cpr tho

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Oh boy, here we go again... repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/482

To be fair the rate is relatively low

As far as I can see it is like $20-25/hour

<m​rcyjanek0:matrix.org> hi guyz, I'm having an issue reported in my library when transactions behave weirdly when they are coinbase txs from p2pool, and I'm looking for someone who could

<m​rcyjanek0:matrix.org> a) mine a p2pool share

<m​rcyjanek0:matrix.org> b) solomine a block to my address

<m​rcyjanek0:matrix.org> I'll refund the entire mined block, obviously - I just need the tx in my history

<m​rcyjanek0:matrix.org> I'm mining since 2 days but still haven't found a share and I'd rather use my laptop for coding than having CPU locked at 100% and being unresponsive.. so some help here would be really welcome

<r​ucknium:monero.social> Czarek Nakamoto: Maybe you could solo mine on testnet or stagenet. AFAIK, there is no p2pool mining on those nets, but your bug is probably with all coinbase txs.

<m​rcyjanek0:matrix.org> most likely, but I have already a mainnet wallet with all edge cases inside, and I'd like to collect yet another one in the same place, so in future I don't have to switch between chains or even wallets to test if something is wrong, if nobody will be able to contribute some hashrate then I'll have to go with testnet - I just prefer to go with mainnet