<b​asses:matrix.org> agree, pointless mentioning it

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> plowsof these people are retarded. 😂

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> plowsof, i love you

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> HardenedSteel what?

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> I'm not the one saying I'll remove bitcointalk. 😂😂😂

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> what's wrong with you?

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Is this sensitive Sunday now?

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Now comes plowsof with a yellow card? 🤔

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Should ask rottenwheel #sensitiveskinquit from xmrbazaar bcuz ppl didnt cosign his ofrn hate

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> 1st second: plowsof i need validation, you love me right?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> 2nd second: plowsof is going to join in on the group bullying me

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I wonder if he can spell toxic

hopefully the love is not under duress (like the home alone 'i love you' scene)

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> its all consensual. And if you don't love me then you're just another bully

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Lol.

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> monero-project/monero-site #2386

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> what's the status of new design proposal?

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx should we redesign workgroup/hangouts as you suggested in monero-project/monero-site #2259#issuecomment-2355823513

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> I think so, but perhaps plowsof has a comment on it

looks good (monero hardware needs a revival e.g. vthors proposal goes through and we have firmware for low powered devices

otherwise remove monero HW until then (it's currently monero-plastic-enclosures)

as for the mail server, it was not working several months ago, and had a restart, i wasn't aware of the outdated hyperkitty version then

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Hardware⊙go sells badges too

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> My @plowsof on the `lists` server thing wasn't meant to be "plowsof, fix please" but just to sanity check the whole comment.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> ty sir

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> for [#2386](monero-project/monero-site #2386) what are thoughts on removing the `/resources/research-lab/` page entirely and using moneroresearch.info ?

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> we can create new subdomain for it such as mrl.getmonero.org

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> ping @rucknium:monero.social

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Hmm

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Dvdfab rip rucks work?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> moneroresearch.info is a lot of research, not just mrl

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Mrl hasnt been updated because we dont really have full time researcher anymore

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> i don't think someone has to be "in" MRL to make research about XMR.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Used to be mostly the noether's. I think MRL is still important and the papers put out my MRL are important to display as "our" work.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> moneroresearch.info isnt research lab work, but all research related to monero

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Theres a difference between papers about monero, and papers for monero

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> When i say "for", i mean, even stuff like cypherstacks recent papers are good. But moneroresearch.info has speculative papers and other things that arent necessarily correct

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I'm not saying it isnt a good resource. I'm saying it doesnt replace mrl

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…ero.social/ASIpMCsOzuNMkildACBYNcai

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> i think these are for monero

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> importing from moneroresearch.info to getmonero.org looks unnecessary work

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> what about categorizing them? would be easier

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> They are funded by ccs

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> They should probably be discussed in MRL and added to yhe website under MRL if necessary

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> though a review isnt the same thing that we typically publish

moneroresearch has an updated search function. a "monero only" list should be do-able hm

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> s/publish/post

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> We dont usually post peer reviews, or even audits afaik

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> exactly, otherwise we will have to keep updating the MRL page and also moneroresearch.info

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> which is doubling the work

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> moneroresearch.info is updated _far_ more often

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Because it has _far_ more research papers

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> On a wide variety of subjects, again, some of which arent correct / are theoretical

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Moneroresearch is more of a "topic monero" research library

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Mrl is about things done on monero

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> as plowsof said ^

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…ero.social/QUsuyaopyxofYZfGDXLVPmJu

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Moneroresearch.info is mostly "about" monero-related topics.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Yes ^ exactly

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> i'd like to hear MRL's opinion on it

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Lab closed due to covid outbreak

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Patent zero there

<3​21bob321:monero.social> On a diff not when merges be deployed?

<3​21bob321:monero.social> When luigi does drive by ?

.merges

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Or binary’s yacht docks?

the website workgroup has compiled the above list of PR's for the next merge round

some missing / to be added soon

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> The above list was already merged

in my mind only

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Did the list not come thru to matrix? It shows no list here

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Ah

yes, html tags issue

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> racist

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Can add 2382 2376

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> 2383

2383 in there, 2382 though , im trying to find what kraken actually supports but im behind a the european crypto wall .. i can't see the pairs

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> AUD is a no afaik

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> JPY as well

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Japan banned all privacy coins many yrs ago

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> but i didnt bother to look into the list, since (like you) i live in north korea

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> No access to international exchanges to find out for sure

they wont show me their crypto pairs. it leads me to a generic page

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Whattr ya waiting for 😆

i click 'trading pairs' it takes me to support.kraken.com/hc/en-us/article…ryptocurrencies-available-on-Kraken

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Merge some of these 😂

crossing the i's , Dotting the t's

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> "<p​lowsof> crossing the i's , Dotting the t's " << approved. Oh wait. Whoops

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> 2383 < easy

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> 2364 < easy

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> 2364 grew in size tho :( lol

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> (incoming avifs bigger than outgoing png)

we'll have to remove the blockchain dot raw to compensate

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> 2377 lost weight

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> because they had higher resolution

<3​21bob321:monero.social> I can watch website in 4k?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I still havent looked at diego's light theme redesign

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> figma.com/design/OuY892nD4zD1CEQDvC…y)?node-id=0-1&t=WChf40qLM6EGubbi-1

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> OFRNXMR I SEE YOUR MOUSE

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I definitely like the light design

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I definitely like the light design button

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> well the whole design

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> My rat?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> indeed

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Yeah I truly love the design

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> The buttons used on the light theme are better imo

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> cc Diego Salazar

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I don't like the full-width dropdown menu however

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I find these a little too annoying on small resolutions

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> maybe on mobile

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> maybe on mobile that's a good idea

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> hi it's me

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> hi just sharing my impressions on your latest figma

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> since ofrnxmr shared the link

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> ew

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> CIRCLE BUTTONS!

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> haha

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> lmao

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Get a room

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> #monero-design ?

<3​21bob321:monero.social> More departments then department of defence…

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> if Monero is to become a nation state, we must out bureaucracy them

<3​21bob321:monero.social> #monero-website-design&construct

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> or to beat nation states, rather

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I don't know with who I just gone goblin mode on figma but it was hilarious

<3​21bob321:monero.social> We have an island

<3​21bob321:monero.social> With a telsa, we cant charge

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> #monero-monero

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> for very Monero-y discussions

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> hi

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> Everyone's thoughts on the light design?

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Can we pay syn 4 ripple to create another demo with new design plz and nothnx

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Needs to be more orange, less red, less hero

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Needs to be more orange, less red, less heroic

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I think your monitor is broken

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> i think it looks good in light mode, the bonus being that a dark mode exists as well

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Dark mode seems very blm

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Like to dark?

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Like logo behind monero means money, hard to see

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> The website has undergone a hero's journey

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> this is hilarious because there was something behind there and people asked for it to be removed

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Thank you maria

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Missed h

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Mariah*

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> dealing with you philistines is the worst, but hey, you don't get to choose your family

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Light mode is fine

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Martyr*

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Fine line between pleasure and pain

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I adopted my parents

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> pov: you're a cat.

<3​21bob321:monero.social> More like group home

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> now we just need some individual to tell us if we're allowed to move to a new design or need to stay with the old one

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> move to a new design

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> but is there such a brave person among us?

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Syn

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I allow it

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> New design

<3​21bob321:monero.social> PAY THEM 4 RIPPLE

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> SyntheticSecretary

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Me and my 100 alts all say new design

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Niocat is the tiebreaker

<3​21bob321:monero.social> 2/100

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> But need orange, not red, and need hero that is less obnoxious

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> even boog900 wants a new design (please if you see this message say you want a new design)

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Multisig

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Nioc plz sign

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Need to ping geodude /s

I just got back and am catching up

please hold

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> im holding

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Quick, vote before he comes

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> figma.com/design/OuY892nD4zD1CEQDvC…y)?node-id=0-1&t=WChf40qLM6EGubbi-1

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Niocat

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Moh sounds shit btw

just received some cat vids which ofc come first

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Priorities

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Diego put a cat in the hero

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Morpheus like #wtf

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> figma.com/design/OuY892nD4zD1CEQDvC…y)?node-id=0-1&t=WChf40qLM6EGubbi-1

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> morph, what do you think?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Be as harsh as possible

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Morph no pressure if you say no I'll dox you. no pressure

<c​ryptomorpheus_:matrix.org> It’s cool

<c​ryptomorpheus_:matrix.org> Better than I imagined

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Say "could be more orange and less red tho"

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> And "the hero is too big"

<c​ryptomorpheus_:matrix.org> This

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> Say you prefer circle buttons

<c​ryptomorpheus_:matrix.org> Hahaha

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> NO

<c​ryptomorpheus_:matrix.org> Rounded buttons, but not circle

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Thx morpheus you're the best

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> my message directly precedes this comment so I will take it to mean agreement with me sorry

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I just released your family.

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> he's keeping one last person just in case

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Leverage

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Not on my screen

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> mandatory professionalism 😎

damn only 2 confirms for scrollback 0_o

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Works on my screen

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Thread locked

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Ban for racism

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Next question does plowsof and hardensteel know how to use atro boy?

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Astro*

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> afaik they don't

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…oad/xmr.mx/qoskCyHYAbtrSnmJtPxkCLvL

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> It isn't too hard to learn, but changes to the layout are not going to be too common

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Deep fake

<c​ryptomorpheus_:matrix.org> But the hero is big indeed

<c​ryptomorpheus_:matrix.org> Could shrink a little

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> I swear I will make the buttons triangle, don't @ me

<c​ryptomorpheus_:matrix.org> But cool design all around

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> New design better than current design?

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> Please respond to this comment I am making right now with a thumbs up or thumbs down emoji. If you're on IRC you can say 'new' or 'old'.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Triangle might be cool

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> I will obviously not be taking offense if we like the old design more. I really don't care. :P

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> old design is trash. Who the hell made that anyway? /s

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Its like it was made by chatgpt 0.1.2 /s

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…rstack.com/hRSVNRXytTRUfCEqadBnQcNG

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Jeffro256, is that you?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Its like it was made by trashgpt 0.1.2 /s

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> There's a joke in there somewhere.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Diego this is probably something to ask in #monero-community (without forgetting to ask everyone to not chat so that everyone sees the vote taking place)

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Who cares about #community

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> good gravy sir, we need to make a meta issue on this

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Tbh less chiefs the better

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> We should post it on reddit

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> We should post it on reddit /s

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Town

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> ofrnxmr: pay my residential ip. I beg you

<3​21bob321:monero.social> So ofrn cant see

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> "better than i imagined" diego sir, do you think that was a compliment or an insult

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> *Welcome, to the brain games*

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> Both!

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> circle button looks so big when compared to rounded

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> smaller circle button

<3​21bob321:monero.social> We can send plowsof and harden to astro school if needed

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> LMAO

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> circle button got cancer

<3​21bob321:monero.social> You have to use spacex rocket tho

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> just replace monero icon with get started button

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> just replace the monero icon with get started button

<3​21bob321:monero.social> If its taking this long for homepage, image other pages…..

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Seraphis will be here first

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> You're not wrong.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Fcmp++

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> Some will say it's by design

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> 3 months or less

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Nice pun

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> For testnet but mainnet won't release until Q2/Q3/2025

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Mainnet will release in december on wownero

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> you mean. december 2025?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> no

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> christ

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Wow released bp before monero audits were done

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> And tryptych on their testnet before monero afaik

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Triptych*

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> do we even use xmr testnet

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Every 4 or 5 yrs now

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Used to use it a lot more bcuz we hard forked every 6 mth

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Now we barely even use monero's master branch lol.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> yep it was a good time

<3​21bob321:monero.social> *5mins

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> when drama didn't exist

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> 😆

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Telling everyone to go fork themselves every 6 months haha

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Dont like it? fork off

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Fork you!!

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> it looks we have more dev activity today compared to the last few years

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Juili?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> wrong room

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> hi

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> add to code of conduct

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Must say hello

<3​21bob321:monero.social> 1. EHLO

<3​21bob321:monero.social> 2. ask question in wrong room

<3​21bob321:monero.social> 3. Get yelled at by ofrn “wrong room”

<3​21bob321:monero.social> In this order

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> For real?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Nice

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Thats what luke said

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Testnet for monero in dec

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Audits likely soon after / after bugs ironed out

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Wow probably before audits are completed

<m​onerobull:monero.social> Woah

<m​onerobull:monero.social> That's faster than expected

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> There's a different 3 in my books: /ignore ofrn

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> soft

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> I remember when rotten was my #1 fan

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> ofrnxmr: pay my residential ip. I beg you <<>> pamp eet and I will pay for your residence

.bbl

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Brazilian?