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littlebobeep
apotheon: macs always had a following depending on the location, we had a Motorola clone for a while which hardware-wise was a lot better than apple machines IMO
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littlebobeep
and macOS had tons of games
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littlebobeep
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littlebobeep
lots listed here
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gijoe3k
hey gang, What decentralized market place do you guys recommend using to buy some monero?
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merope
localmonero.co
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merope
(Yes, .co not .com)
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gingeropolous
so I saw some chat somewhere that suggested that viewtags were kinda hard to understand
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gingeropolous
so i made a dumb cartoon
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gingeropolous
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gingeropolous
im hoping someone with actual animation skillz could turn it into a video or something
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plowsof[m]
well done on that, i like pictures and you tricked me into learning
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gingeropolous
danke
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ocb
'i got tired of being creative with zoidberg' :)
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dEBRUYNE
gingeropolous: Would you mind posting on r/Monero as well? :-P
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hyc
hey - so if you were an ransomware operator, and decided to seed the top ~100 accts on the Bitcoin richlist with your sanctioned funds, do you think that would poison those accounts permanently,
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hyc
or would it just invalidate automated chain taint analysis?
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moneromooo
It would likely do two things:
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moneromooo
- get those on the list to be investigated
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moneromooo
- as much as was sent to be seized when possible
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moneromooo
I doubt invalidating automated chain taint analysis will be considered, govt just add more manpower, and we pay for it via taxes
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moneromooo
IIRC, there's a canonical method for following "hot" funds commingled with "cold" funds if funugible. I think it's FIFO but I'm not sure.
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moneromooo
But in any case, there's a commonly used method, and it predates cryptocurrencies, so they had to deal with that before (though probably at a lower scale).
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hyc
well, predating, they seldom identified the exact money in question, unless it was physically marked with paint etc
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hyc
now, they can exactly identify the coins in question
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klaxa
by the incoming transaction
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klaxa
you can only spend coins you received
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moneromooo
Coins are destroyed when sent.
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klaxa
but i've brought that up as well, i'm not sure there is a definite solution, it's just one of the downsides of permissionless wallets
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moneromooo
So if you send a tx with outouts ABC and B is but while A and C aren't, and that tx creates D and E, I expect they'd apportion the hotness.
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klaxa
transaction fee is meant to deter spam, but a wealthy spammer could waste a bunch of btc to "taint" a lot of wallets
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moneromooo
So depending on hte values of ABCDE, the taint would flow to D, E, or both in varying amounts.
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moneromooo
(in addition to placing the account under surveillance, but since nowadays everyone's undersurveillance, it doesn't really matter anymore)
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moneromooo
Under more hassle I guess.
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hyc
ok, back to the ransomwware operator, with a sanctioned wallet address. anyone he targets with tainted coins can just say "I have nothing to do with this" and surrender the equivalent amount and go on with their lives, yes?
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hyc
but a taint tracking program would then have to whitelist the victim's address
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sech1
they could just send back the specific tainted output, right?
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moneromooo
Probably. After maybe getting to give out lots of extra info on their activities, but I'd expect if they "pass", they just get to surrender the "extra".
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sech1
back to the same address it came from
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sech1
surrender to who? Authorities, the exchange?
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moneromooo
They'd whitelist the govt address the "Extra" got sent. If taint is apportioned as I said above, whitelisting the "victim" isn't needed.
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moneromooo
To the judicary by order I expect. Which can be fun with jurisdictions I guess.
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moneromooo
Quite possibly it'll seldom work in practice. My point is just that there have been methods to deal with similar stuff for ages.
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sech1
quite an effective way to make others waste their time and money
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sech1
if you send $0.01 in tainted BTC
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hyc
I wonder if anyone has deliberately sent any tainted coins to satoshi's address yet
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absolut
hi
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absolut
someine could tell me hao can I remove the blochchain from my debian server? i was sincronycing and when i was at 90% the disk was 100%
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absolut
how can i delete the blockchain from / ?
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selsta
absolut: rm ~/.bitmonero/lmdb/data.mdb
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absolut
oh
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absolut
ok thankyou im gona do that
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absolut
there is a conf where i can modify to put de bbdd on /home not on / ?
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selsta
--data-dir
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absolut
ok thak you
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absolut
thanks
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gingeropolous
jesus christ. u post a pdf u get all the haxors comin down on u
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plowsof[m]
posting from my commadore after being ransomwared by that pdf
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gingeropolous
oh damnit now the images are huge
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gingeropolous
whats the html code for resize
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escapethe3ra[m]
gingeropolous: just add some css to the img tag `img {max-width: 100%;}`
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escapethe3ra[m]
pm me if you need help