The Discord bridge?

+1

Oh, sorry, I meant The Spam Bridge

Yes. Only been back for like a week

<XMR = gamer cash> wasted effort 🙂

Or discord mod

Does IRC just stream out my public IP domain?

It literally looked up the IP I connected with

Well, libera.chat

Yeah

#monero-offtopic:monero.social

I don't like that, Tor it is

Oh, right

Meet yall over there

Never

Dan (Is not the man & Braxman Tomsparks Advocate): ?

ofrnxmr[m]: Never

;)

<sgp> I believe I banned the right person

Yeah

Message deleted

Thanks

So, I finished the video.

I still don't fully understand it.

Someone sends funds to my address. Then I send my funds to someone else. If those two cooperate, they *might* be able to relate my address and the info the one I sent funds to has?

Yep

It was explained in quite a confusing matter, ngl.

What are some mitigations I can employ?

s/matter/way/

I think the mention mitigations in the video right?

Nope

I was waiting and waiting and waiting and then the video ended

The main mitigation is "churning", which is sending the funds to yourself a few times before you use them

* and waiting for when they'll mention mitigations and then

As in, I send them to the same address that I use for receiving?

Or I make a bunch of new addresses?

Same address works fine.

I see

How effective is it?

Nobody knows how many times you need to churn though, it's an area of active research. Also, churning at irregular intervals is probably better than churning at consistent intervals, but researchers are still trying to work out how much better.

Oh, I see

Also important to note -- there are no documented cases of the attack actually being performed in the wild. It's theoretical.

I see - are the other attacks on the playlist as severe, more severe or less severe?

Depends on your threat model, but IMO they're all much less severe for the average person.

I see, that's good

hi somebody here ?

That actually makes me think

If I buy something with Monero, how does the receiver know that the funds they received are from a given customer?

ok

Have you learned about subaddresses yet? Subaddresses are how they know

They generate a subaddress for each user, and then check which subaddress gets paid to know which user has paid.

Oooooh

I wrote a library specifically for that actually 😎 busyboredom.com/projects/acceptxmr\

Is there any cost to having multiple wallets?

BusyBoredom[m]: Oooh fun

Atm I use the CLI wallet

Well, "use", I downloaded the blockchain and played with the CLI a bit, but couldn't do much since I didn't know how to get any coins haha

If you have multiple wallets, you'll have to sync them all seperately. That's the only cost.

*There's still a 147G big .bitmonero in my homedir`

s/`/*/

If you want it to be smaller, google how to prune it

the disanvatage of using multiple wallets us that you have to pay a fee to transfer between wallets

BusyBoredom[m]: What does syncing it mean?

Like I have a general idea what it means, but not fully sure

* fully sure what it implies

The thingy sitting in ~/.bitmonero is a copy of the blockchain, right?

So all the wallets use that, right?

mrpython: How large is the fee generally?

Wallet syncing is the automated process your wallet performs where it scans all blocks since your restore height looking for monero you own.

It's slow

Ooh

Revuo Monero. Issue 160: February 16 - 23, 2023. revuo-xmr.com/issue-160.html

How slow are we talking

Will it take several days like downloading the blockchain did?

On a shitty phone with a restore height of zero, maybe days. On a nice phone with a recent restore height, seconds.

And a high-end computer?

* high-end computer or medium-end overcooked laptop?

well im taking about difereny wallet IDs

Laptops and computers are faster than phones obviously

it takes some dats to downloa epending on your internet speed

Also, just another thing I was wondering - what is the average yield of mining on such a machine? I let it run for a few days succeeding 0 times; that is to say, is there any benefit to mining on a regular consumer machine?

sorry for the spelling

BusyBoredom[m]: Yea, I presume it won't take too long then?

Normal yield for mining is negative, you'll lose money.

Lemme actually open the wallet that I haven't opened in two months

BusyBoredom[m]: What if I have 0 on the wallet?

Then you'll have to get creative paying your electricity bill :P

ive running mine with 4 core cpu

BusyBoredom[m]: I don't have 0 fiat, I have 0 monero :P

on pool

and it is giving me fractions of cents

And this thing is something that runs 24/7 anyway (it's a laptop that functions as a server)

I know, I was making a funny. Obviously you get paid monero to mine, but it'll cost you more in electricity. There's a channel for mining if you wanna learn more about that

mrpython: How long did it take for it to generate *anything* ?

BusyBoredom[m]: Oooh ighty

Where is it?

2 full days for me on pool mini chain

Not sure, there's a search function on element to find it though

it was almost nothing

.0007

im using the cimputer to heat the room

in sumer i'll loose money mining

BusyBoredom[m]: So it is published on the matrix.org room directory?

s/matrix.org//

Search, and thou shall receive

So uh, how small can I prune the blockchain

I wanna sync but I don't have much more space for it

You can prune it to 1/3rd size

Oh

Well, the two articles I have been able to find are pretty useless, and monero-blockchain-prune --help is of no help as well

And there's no manpage

I ran monero-blockchain-prune by itself and it did nothing

* I ran monero-blockchain-prune by itself and it basically did nothing

* I ran monero-blockchain-prune by itself and it didn't reduce it by a noticeable amount

I think I'm not gonna be able to explain pruning any better than the articles can :( They worked for me

They don't explain how to actually do the pruning

Only a light and very confusing overview of what it dies

s/dies/does/

Gonna see if monero.stackexchange.com/questions/…the-monero-blockchain-in-version-v0 helps

Nope

./monerod --prune-blockchain

Nope

Did that

Hmm, actually

Could it be that it made a new .bitmonero

Since I have two homefolders

Does anyone is informed on the issue of a single entity controlling almost 51% if the nodes? is this issue being address my monero?

Let's try that

It does seem like that was the case. Guess I was being a bit stoopid

It sure is taking long

any proof of work coin is susceptible to a 51% attack. do some research on it, its 51% of the hashpower. if 51% of the haspower was controlled by a p2pool though it would be fine

Can I kill it in the middle and run monero-blockchain-prune instead of monerod --pure-blockchain ?

thanks plowsof11

well its anything >50% (not actually 51% its just a catchy name)

Imma hope so and kill it

Oh, blockchain is already pruned, hmm

thatsinewave: stop , think, 'is this stream of consciousness text im entering'

I actually think monero is the only coin with real future, thats why i started with it despite of the bad publicity

Monero has great publicity though

well yes publicity is fine i mean, like you hearthings about missuse of the tech

Plowsof cranky today

<DanIsnotthemanBr> "Plowsof cranky today" <- Banned

user[xmpp]: hello folks

user[xmpp]: anyone use feather wallet here?

Dontasktoask.com

Nohello.net

user[xmpp]: why?

user[xmpp]: confused about something with feather wallet

#feather:monero.social

user[xmpp]: on xmpp

just ask your question

there's gonna be some feather users in here

The suspense

User probably doesn't require someone who has ever used feather

<thatsinewave[m]> "Oh, blockchain is already..." <- If you enable pruning after you've downloaded the 150+GB chain, it will *not* reduce the size of the file. Instead it will clear some data within the file, and put any new blockchain data there - meaning the file won't grow (until a pruned node needs more then 150+GB). If you enable pruning from the beginning, the total file size will be what you'd expect from a pruned node

if we have more outputs BULLETPROOF_MAX_OUTPUTS this will affect only anonymity or other things too

Oh boy

0 days

Context

<plowsof11> "i definitely need a few days..." <- Hows the vacation coming along?

plowsof got rdo?

How can I list my wallets in the CLI wallet?

Your addresses/accounts ? help address and help account.

It does not let me in if I don't know the wallet name

Do you mean password instead of name ?

I mean name

If you lost your password, you can restore with your seed, if you wrote it down.

Filename ?

Yes

Then... ls ?

* Sure

Or find ~ -name \*keys

Is there not a standard location for them?

Not really. Wherever you created it.

If you did not give it a path, it'll be in whatever directory you were in at the time.

Oh

I think I found it

Thanks!

if on a testnet we send simultaneously to +100 people changing BULLETPROOF_MAX_OUTPUTS to smth else this will affect anonymity or maybe other things too

Do you mean only your node changes this, or all nodes (or at least half the network hash rate's worth of nodes) ?

If only your node changes it, your tx will be rejected.

If enough nodes change it, it does affect anonymity somewhat, and will grow fees sublinearly vs cost to verify.

all nodes,i'm mean testnet

Fees will grow logarithmically with the number of outputs (beyond a fixed base) while verification cost will grow linearly, opening a DoS vector.

yes but this will happen only for transfers that are +100 not to simple transfers,one to one for example

Yes.

except anonymity dos cant achieve smth else on that huge tx

Hello

I'm attempting to generate view-only wallet which I've already generated in the past

I'm getting an error: "Attempting to generate view only wallet, but specified files exists. exiting to not risk overwriting"

How to proceed?

Okay scrap that...

Has anybody been able to install xmrig on OpenBSD?

You can always just compile it from source

OpenBSD is not supported by XMRig

You can compile p2pool though and mine in p2pool directly

The old xmr-stack worked. The problem looks to be related with MAP_HUGESTL that is not supported. There must be some way to solve this but I couldn't find it.

*MAP_HUGETLB I mean

try "cmake .. -DWITH_HWLOC=OFF -DMAP_HUGETLB=0 -DMAP_POPULATE=0"

But OpenBSD is a poor choice for mining. It doesn't support huge pages and thread affinity, and MSR mod

you'll get around 50% of hashrate you would get on Linux/Windows

what wallet do you guys use

i feel that monero gui wallet is a bit too simple

shall i go to feather?

<Bon 💗> I use elite wallet on Android and stackwallet

cli or feather on desktop, cake, monerujo or stack on mobile

jamaikos[xmpp]: feather wallet is better and less bloated

jamaikos[xmpp]: as we can see we need more monero to buy grass

Cake Wallet is now on desktop, starting with MacOS! Join the TestFlight to test our first beta release!

user[xmpp]: never used cake wallet tbh

jamaikos[xmpp]: hey guys do you now how much ram usage matrix synapse consume ?

> <@vikrants:monero.social> Cake Wallet is now on desktop, starting with MacOS! Join the TestFlight to test our first beta release!

>

> cakelabs.com/news/cake-wallet-arrives-on-desktop

Waiting the Linux version...

user[xmpp]: too much matrix = bloat spyware jamaikos

jamaikos[xmpp]: yeah xmpp is better

jamaikos[xmpp]: I want to setup a xmpp server on my sbc

jamaikos[xmpp]: 512 mb ram for sure will handle xmpp

jamaikos[xmpp]: 4 core

jamaikos[xmpp]: banana pi m2 zero

icarolongo[m]: Working on it

user[xmpp]: matrix is bloated and requires more resources & money$ to run but what concerns me more is Matrix was founded by amdocs which is directly realted to israeli spy agencies

jamaikos[xmpp]: xmpp is better and more solid and trustable than briar and atox

user[xmpp]: the only thing matrix has over xmpp is better encrpted group chat handling

jamaikos[xmpp]: briar has good point but to use bluetooth to message or the phone wireless would need close distance , so why not speak ? kkk

jamaikos[xmpp]: > the only thing matrix has over xmpp is better encrpted group chat handling

depends cause if the group is public there is no point cryptography

jamaikos[xmpp]: the way it is for my view make my xmpp server with a telegram bridge

jamaikos[xmpp]: and maybe a matrix bridge

jamaikos[xmpp]: >[user]

And what do you think about IRC ?

jamaikos[xmpp]: and Session and Nostr ?

user[xmpp]: I think IRC and XMPP are two really decentralized and good but XMPP fixes certain leaks i think

user[xmpp]: however i haven't really used IRC much

user[xmpp]: I like the idea of session and downloaded awhile back never really tested it, no phone # required is a plus

user[xmpp]: never heard if Nostr

user[xmpp]: guides.cakewallet.com/docs/advanced-features/tor-with-orbot

XML is a markup language not a data transmission format 👀

user[xmpp]: vik my father is gonna try cake wallet ( i don't have a smart phone) but it would be cool if cake had Tor/proxy option baked into wallet like feather on desktop for linux given the user has tor daemon running in background

user[xmpp]: have heard lots of good things about cake but never tried it myself

<dANBs[m]> "user[xmpp]: never heard if Nostr" <- Nostr is usenet on steroids

user[xmpp]: looks interesting

jamaikos[xmpp]: it was developed by a guy from my town

jamaikos[xmpp]: but until now there is only chinese guys using at the most

user[xmpp]: >chinese guys

user[xmpp]: jamaikos, does it shake up censorship then

user[xmpp]: "great firewall"

jamaikos[xmpp]: yeah it is over relays all the ssutff on nstr

jamaikos[xmpp]: stuff*

Golden tweet about nostr:

A relay is literally just a server and it refuse to publish your posts based on your pubkey or content

jamaikos[xmpp]: I was thinking about briar and Atox but there is no adption

jamaikos[xmpp]: no public chats and nothing

jamaikos[xmpp]: but it is good for some guys

Decentralisation especially for real-time stuff is pretty hard to accomplish

jamaikos[xmpp]: yeah

Signal just works™

jamaikos[xmpp]: xmpp is better cause it is portocol older than me

jamaikos[xmpp]: signal is good but centralized I prefer telegram with a random number bought with monero and xmpp

Telegram is spyware though

jamaikos[xmpp]: if we started doing briges from xmpp to telegram , xmpp would get more attention

jamaikos[xmpp]: they would now nothing less than our xmpp pseudonims and we dont need to give phone numbers or emails to use XMPP

user[xmpp]: yeah bridges seem like good idea to bridge the gap

xmpp isn't really truly decentralised either, a P2P protocol wouldn't be able to distinguish a "user" and a "server"

jamaikos[xmpp]: XMPP with briges to other platforms it is a way to use centralized platforms in a nonymous form

dANBs[m]: Meh IRC is already bridged to most stuff

jamaikos[xmpp]: > *cockliuser[m]:* xmpp isn't really truly decentralised either, a P2P protocol wouldn't be able to distinguish a "user" and a "server"

there is no problem at least in xmpp with bridges they dont now your phone number or email

jamaikos[xmpp]: > *cockliuser[m]:*

> Meh IRC is already bridged to most stuff

really ? thats amazing

Currently we have bitlbee.org and github.com/42wim/matterbridge

Matrix has cool bridging support though

user[xmpp]: I think thats cause Matrix wants to make all its users look like [m] instead of the fact many are bridged users?

user[xmpp]: nuegia.net/articles/matrix.xhtml

dANBs[m]: > I will however continue to complain and raise concerns about Matrix until it becomes an XMPP client/server implementation, or at the very least standardized XMPP federation and interoperability is fixed in good faith.

Jesus that's pretentious

i used irc once, dox'd my home ip (not everything is private by default like monero)

plowsof11: cloaks fix this most of the time

It is kinda stupid that irc servers have your IP on public display though

user[xmpp]: true plowsof thats why i like xmpp better then irc...people should use tor or i2p or vpn with any p2p tech because of this