jamaikos[xmpp]: thats true thats why xmpp is a way much more better than IRC by that way

jamaikos[xmpp]: it also support sms bridges

jamaikos[xmpp]: I think we need more bridges on the groups

jamaikos[xmpp]: in telegram and whatsapp channels there is only matrix brigdges

jamaikos[xmpp]: we could make a bridge in xmpp in a private group with cryptography to another platform without problems

jamaikos[xmpp]: matrix it is mossad collecting metadata such as oracle was founded by an guy that had a lot of relations with CIA

dANBs[m]: If you're on libera you can request a cloak in #libera-cloak after registering with nickserv

"we" = 1 person , probably a volunteer. and then admins have to be in 5 places at once and it seems it spirals discussion into talking about why my bridge is better than yours and 'mossad' drivel

user[xmpp]: whatsapp and telegram should be avoided, i think telegram (besides closed source) has automatic previews turned on and no way to turn off which means it will download any files that is posted in public chat rooms directly to your disk

user[xmpp]: this is how pegasus operate

s/operate/operated/

jamaikos[xmpp]: yeah makes sense

jamaikos[xmpp]: xmpp it is the only one that is not corrupted

jamaikos[xmpp]: Atox and briar are good but are nothing more than early releases

jamaikos[xmpp]: but I would put my faith on briar maybe

user[xmpp]: which means its open to being exploted and have been before (not to mention the creator of telegram was on the list of people targeted by pegasus phone # released by privacy international)

jamaikos[xmpp]: > this is how pegasus operated

lets make a bridge and dance in front of pegasus

user[xmpp]: lol

is this monero related? or someones private messages

user[xmpp]: sorry

jamaikos[xmpp]: in omemo documentation it is saying that this year they will release a patch that make omemo cypher the full way of the p2p

jamaikos[xmpp]: omemo as whatsapp and matrix , the message sent will get exposed by miliseconds on the server before being published to other clients on the group

user[xmpp]: plowsof i will say great work on the feather wallet and looking to hear more about any Seraphis/Jamtis updates

jamaikos[xmpp]: feather wallet it is a true wallet

user[xmpp]: well GUI is great too ..my preference is more lightweight things

jamaikos[xmpp]: monero GUI is nice but bloat

user[xmpp]: GUI seems better for mining and few other things

user[xmpp]: will see how my father like cake wallet

user[xmpp]: invidious.sethforprivacy.com/watch?v=xGEBRQU1lzw

jamaikos[xmpp]: they should also habe bitcoin cash

jamaikos[xmpp]: have *

jamaikos[xmpp]: I used jabber at the orkut era until 2010's , then I started using facebook

user[xmpp]: hey jamaikos trying to keep it XMR related but can u link that patch about omemo to be released ?

jamaikos[xmpp]: yewtu.be/watch?v=PIQg7M8efc8

jamaikos[xmpp]: it is in portuguese

user[xmpp]: u said 2023

jamaikos[xmpp]: yeah

jamaikos[xmpp]: it is a prevision by then

user[xmpp]: don't speak portuguese

When I do `monerod status` I see: "Error: Problem fetching info-- rpc_request\nHeight 15290/15290 (100.0%) on mainnet, mining info unavailable, net hash 172.38 kH/s, v1, 0(out)+0(in) connections"

I am obviously in initial sync, so when I do `monerod sync_info` it also only says "Error: Problem fetching info-- rpc_request"

I have restricted-rpc=1 in monerod.conf ... is that why?

DeanGuss: yes

I'm quite sure sync_info is restricted

Looks like youre running on not-mainnet

Different ports

(What selsta said first though. You cant read certain info over a restricted rpc)

Comment out Remove the `restricted-rpc=1` and replace with... (full message at <libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/do…e6fac76b512751d85bd370a03c7eae595b4>)

> <@ofrnxmr:monero.social> You can use trocador.app to swap whatevercoin into monero with absolutely no account or anythibg... (full message at <libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/do…b9898eafcb7e626b40a4dff3347d29ce488>)

$5?

I dunno..whales only I guess

(Tip, I have no idea what you're referring to, so im answering bs with bs)

$5? No, 23000$

* $5? No, $23000

Also the Exchange button does nothing

I always swap 2btc

thatsinewave[m]: (I don't have $23000)

ofrnxmr[m]: I am not that rich

Seriously though, no idea wtf youre talking about 😅😅😅😅😅

What coins are you using...?

0.0003 BTC = ~$23000

0.0003 is 23000? TIL

YOUR MATH IS BROKEN

ofrnxmr[m]: Trying to see if I can make a sane conversion path to monero

ofrnxmr[m]: 🤔

Oh

Fucking google

1 = 23000

0.0003 is definitely not 23000

To be fair

It was not shown

I had to scroll down, they changed the UI

It used to be different

Damn. I was off by $2.

$7** my bad

Okay, hold on hold on

0.0003 btc = 23k = 7.6b per btc

Lolol

$20 is 0.000043 BTC

Min is 0.0003 BTC

0.000043 < 0.0003

0.0003 is $6.92

I am confusedc

* I am confused

Oh it's the UI beiungf broken again

Christ google

FINALLY

Thanks

Your calculator is drunk

serves you right for using google

And for letting your calculator drink hard liquor

0.000043 * 23000

You dont need Google for that

Amount you want to send * cost of a whole one

ocean[m]: Hey I don't like getting presented with porn while trying to look up documentation like how duckduckgo does

I just search pornhub directly. 🤔 soon they'll add a calculator

thatsinewave: searx

That still just uses google 🤔

Just a frontend

But, does it do math?

Thesinewave needs to learn his to use a calculator

How to* do multiplication

Searxng can use any search engine

So, anyone knows where could I buy another cryptocurrency (currently trying out bitcoin, got a wallet) so I can use trocador.app to convert it to Monero?

I tried searching, but cannot find any good ones

There's the official one on bitcoin.org, with a 27% fee

Like cake wallet?

Doesn't seem so

Seems like just a wallet app to me

Pretty you can swap in it

* Pretty sure you can

Well

Not very useful if I cannot access it

I’m lost

Also reading their docs it seems that they only offer between crypto?

* their docs, it

You want to swap btc to xmr?

Or am i missing something

No, I want to buy BTC with fiat so I can swap it to XMR with the exchange suggested by someone here before, trocador.app

Oh you want an exchange

To get btc

Yea, since I didn't find any sane way to obtain XMR directly

Localmonero?

Hmm

The first one suggested is bisq

Any experience with that?

Uh this is so confusing

Its not confusing

Your goal is to buy crypto

bisq crashed my laptop. dunno how it managed to do that, or what system-level muckin about it wass trying to do

There are 2 ways to do that

Using ID and not using ID

Bisq seems to offer no sane payment methods

You're paying a buyer directly

Seller*

What is "sane" to you, is also "sane" to regulations

Sane means that I can actually pay using that method

I have a credit card

And you want to pay a PERSON with a method that can be reversed or frozen?

Credit is not money

Credit is debt. If you want to buy crypto using debt, use a cex or go make a cash advance against the card

Idk, it's a piece of plastic I pay with or numbers I pay with. It's not the one that goes in debt afaik, considering it gets declined in such a case.

ofrnxmr[m]: And a method that doesnt settle for 2 days

Thats not sane

KYC lets you do this, because they can track you down

Yes, it's not sane, which is why I want to get Monero since it seems the most sane method right after cash

But I cannot exactly use cash to buy it, so my only other option are the existing payment methods

So.. either kyc or put up a buy offer of localmonero

And the indirect options that use bitcoin as an intermediary?

Or find someone that can sell you crypto.

I would, but you seem kind of hard to deal with, (0.0003 =23000 is ripping me off!!!) so not interested.

Are no KYC etc, if you can get btc ltc bch eth or shitcoin #1-50 you can probably swap it on trocador

> but you seem kind of hard to deal with

Why >_<

> 0.0003 =23000 is ripping me off!!!

Because you find problems that dont exist and complain until you understand

Hhahahaha

Tbf I am kinda venting after spending hours trying to do this myself and failing

And being angry at how fucking retarded classic banks are

> if you can get btc ltc bch eth or shitcoin #1-50 you can probably swap it on trocador

*IF* I can

And I am trying to figure out how to get any of the other coins

Only thing I found has 27% fee

And I am not sure if it even works

Well, YOLO time

Simple. Do you want to kyc?

If you do, just use kraken or even binance since you want easy

If not, you have to do leg work

I don't want to send DNA samples or sell my soul, so no KYC

I'd be fine with sane amounts of KYC, aka address, name, and credit card

And ID

But no DNA samples, family photo albums, nudes, etc

Lol. Credit card isnt id. Address isnt id.

These things worked a couple years ago, but "just id" is even becoming rare now

Kraken does "just id" for intermediate iirc.

Pro (10m+ ) likely needs the noods

Credit Card is an ID, it identifies me enough for police to find me if they wanted to based on my bitcoin address

Credit card is not id

Buddy

Tell that to your politicians that say its not

Well, not an ID, but it identifies me

No it doesnt

If it did, aml laws wouldnt say otherwise

Fuck the ids

It does

Hm?

Laws are insane

No use looking at them for something sane

It did 2 years ago, now they need nudes. Got it?

If not, call your politician

I said sane KYC. Sane KYC is illegal, got it.

It's monero supposed to delink sender to recipient

ID links you to the btc

The monero, not so much

Well yea, I am talking about getting BTC then doing BTC -> XMR

Exactly

thatsinewave[m]: The second part of your equation is simple af and needs no further explanation

The first part is a "you" problem, and you have the solutions

Pick one and stop complaining

So they will know BTC belongs to you

ofrnxmr[m]: What are those solutions?

Or go complain to the people who took and continue to take your rights

Without sending nudes and dna samples

But as soon as you get into Monero the track is lost, isn't it?

Use bisq or localnonero

Well, Bisq does not let me pay as far as I can tell

ofrnxmr[m]: Yeah but it's easier said than done

Like I am neither American, Mexican, nor Indian

And the payment options seem to be only for those areas

I am European so I guess I am out of luck with Bisq?

I used both but it's hard to transact for anything above 100 usd

Well, I wouldnt sell you monero for a credit card. How would you like to pay Sir?

I accept crypto and fiat/cash only

I can ship you Euros

* you Euros cash if you give me an address :P

Yeah, and "you" dont like KYC?

And somehow prove that the transaction is safe

ofrnxmr[m]: Ma'am and I'll buy monero for bank transfer as long as it's somewhat private

Exactlyn

ofrnxmr[m]: Wdym, shipping is as private as it gets

Sender pays with cash, receiver takes it from a holding station or w/e are thoswe things called in eng

Howso? You dont know where I am. I cant just ship it to Turkey if im in Australia

That's why buying BTC first is often needed

And if you have euros, use localmonero ffs

Plenty of people there do cash by mail iirc

I was joking with cash by mail, someone can just... Take my cash and not send the money

Might even find someone to be your xmr dealer in person

True but I won't use localmonero for like $10k buy

thatsinewave[m]: Just like you can reverse a credit card tx

ofrnxmr[m]: Oh?

I mean, wouldn't you usually use intermediaries for things like this?

Localmonero is great for small amounts

I use kyc to buy shitcoins and swap to xmr

So so much for anything real

ofrnxmr[m]: How much KYC?

Then I do whatever tf I want with the xmr and my kyc account is always empty

ofrnxmr[m]: This

ID

I close accounts when they ask for selfies

I found a good KYC exchange where I live with min requirements

There exist bitcoin ATMs where I live, but I frankly have no idea if they work, and to be fair I wouldn't expect them to work

But they only deal btc

So I have to exchange

Exchange reports my purchases to taxes

What did I do with the crypto?

I immediately disposed of it and bought monero, which, if not listed on any exchange, doesnt excatly have a real value now does it.

That monero is gone, and was used to 100x BTC futures. Dont ask me about those shitcoins, they only existed for a few minutes, then I had a boating accident

Heheh

I'll try the local bitcoin ATMs and hope for the best

They work ^ but expect to pay 10% surcharges

<ofrnxmr[m]> "Kraken does "just id" for..." <- kraken at minimum needs ID with selfi and proof of residence (utility bill), but you can black out most numbers on the second

Needs selfie now? Or id with photo?

Maybe my kraken account is frozen then, havent used it in like 6 few months

selfie with you holding the ID iirc, at least 2020 when I signed up. Account still works

With the middle finger too ?

<ofrnxmr[m]> "They work ^ but expect to pay 10..." <- The one I used charged 14%

I have a fun story.

I forgot to screenshot the address on the wallet before I left

So I was SSHing over my VPN that dies every 5 minutes (thanks OpenVPN) and controlling my desktop remotely with xdotool and screenshotting it with maim

They also have an absurdly high minimum payment

Converted it is 0.0019 BTC (and they give back 0.001634 BTC)

Now I'll wait for it to arrive, and try to convert it to XMR

Got the BTC, now trying to convert it to XMR

That's the BTC wallet

OH It' sin mBTC, I am stupid, sorry

* OH It's in mBTC, I am stupid, sorry

Waiting for the transaction

Wait uh

Isn't that bad 🤔

A transfer takes an hour at min

If it expires before then, will it just eat my money

It's been over an hour 🤔

It's at

any of you guys use feather wallet in whonix?

<thatsinewave[m]> "It's been over an hour 🤔" <- bro, relax & think, then act.

name your favorite swap venues?

cool: moneromarket.io

<anarkiocrypto[m]> "Also Particl.io but it uses PART..." <- you think PART is good buy?

<stretch1> "bro, relax & think, then act." <- ?

Hmm, is it that sending bitcoin just takes ages

The number seems to be going down

use btc lightning

isnt it instant

Well I already sent the money

<thatsinewave[m]> "The number seems to be going..." <- It seems to be going up and down*, staying about the same. I increased the fee to be about 4 times what it was before

Whoa

First of all, what sort of funky bitcoin wallet are you using

Second of all, if you read, you set a fee if 4000% of the amount

ofrnxmr[m]: Electrum

I finally got the monero!

Balance: 0.045736612273, unlocked balance: 0.045736612273

what are some good bitcoin wallets

that have support for lightning

thatsinewave[m]: What's the unit 😔

I highly doubt it's just XMR

Or wait

Ah, I got fooled by google again, nevermind!

The fees to convert to BTC were 14%, and BTC->XMR were 3%

Not that bad

<thatsinewave[m]> "Electrum" <- Use cake wallet

i need a wallet for desktop

For bitcoin? #bitcoin channel

ofrnxmr[m]: I looked it up, it's phone no?

* it's phone only no?

yeah its mobile only

Mac too

Desktop monero wallets... (full message at <libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/do…7a84151e6f2250423158db6997830c49d42>)

bro

cake is not a desktop wallet

wtf are u talking about

Bro

I smoke crack and dont know hoe to read, I dunno

Desktop, not fanzy paperweight /s

i love how the %mem adds up to >120%

iwormthroughhout: Cake is on the way to become a desktop wallet: old.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/11…arrives_on_desktop_beta_release_for

Anybody know why my monero isn't listening to my config options? I *definitely* have enforce-dns-checkpointing=0 and disable-dns-checkpoints=1 in monero.conf

0bin.net/paste/uZIRTrnK#9a03xvRreV1UXBJcZM-lfx7AQXQVRdZUVwyWjMemcGR <- my log clearly shows it still trying to check dns txt records from monero pulse

Is it loading that file ?

(eg, strace)

It's definitely loading the file because I also have add-exclusive-node=192.168.0.11:18080 added to the config and you can see from the log it's trying to connect to that node

and curiously, when I turn on tx-proxy and proxy= to use tor, it no longer contacts monero pulse crap

Or at least, it doesn't announce it in the log

Are you sure it's the dns stuff and not, say, the update check ?

pretty sure:

2023-02-25T19:06:41+00:00 2023-02-25 19:06:41.745 W Invalid DNSSEC TXT record signature for updates.moneropulse.org: validation failure <updates.moneropulse.org. TXT IN>: no DNSKEY rrset for trust anchor . while building chain of trust

2023-02-25T19:06:41+00:00 2023-02-25 19:06:41.745 I Found TXT record for updates.moneropulse.org

Sorry, I meant "Are you sure it's the checkpoint stuff and not, say, the update check" :D

And it's the update check. It can be disabled too if you want. See --help.

ahh... ok thank you

jamaikos[xmpp]: I wish I had a good enthernet conection in my town

jamaikos[xmpp]: I was trying to make an monero node

jamaikos[xmpp]: but the conection it is pretty fucking unstable

where wallet2 check tx size

there is a lot of code

<rootinit> If you just need a personal node it should be fine... Once it's synced updates don't take much bandwidth

<rootinit> I understand where your comming from though. It took about 2 weeks for it to sync initially for me

Which remote nodes does simple mode in Monero-gui use? Where can I find good remote nodes

<rootinit> I would guess the closest fastest one