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DanIsnotthemanBr
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fmlatghor
sorry if this is a basic question: does solo mining contribute to the blockchain/help monero, even if success is rare or never?
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fmlatghor
I'm just debating whether or not to sacrifice some resources to run a monero node
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RavFX[m]
<fmlatghor> "sorry if this is a basic..." <- Yes. any mining help
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fmlatghor
RavFX[m]: thanks
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xmrfn[m]
fmlatghor: Note that you can run a node with very few CPU/RAM resources even if it doesn't mine and that is still a benefit to the network (I would argue an honest up-to-date node is more beneficial than a random miner)
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xmrfn[m]
Though of course it doesn't bring you any funds, it increases your personal Good Karma :)
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jtgrassie
kayabanerve[m]: "TX chaining is the ability to create a transaction B reliant on a transaction A before A has been added to the ledger." <- that aligns with what Alex was suggesting though, to some degree
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jtgrassie
as you could create a chain of txs and publish them all together
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Alex|LocalMonero
Yeah but it doesn't sidestep the 10-block-lock.
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jtgrassie
no but that's fine, from the perspective of not exponentially locking funds
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jtgrassie
the final tx would have the final change, locked
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jtgrassie
and the recipients in the chained txs would all unlock at the same time
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jtgrassie
(if I'm grasping correctly)
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Alex|LocalMonero
As kaya pointed out in the MRL room, you need to broadcast tx1 before you can broadcast chained txs2+
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Alex|LocalMonero
> Yes. Transaction B is published after transaction A is on a block and after any 10-block lock occurs. Then, B has its membership proof created, and is published on chain.
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Alex|LocalMonero
kaya ^
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jtgrassie
if you have to have tx1 confirmed before tx2+ I'm not sure how that's definied as "chaining", tx2 is really just a partially constructed tx?
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jtgrassie
I always understood "chaining" as you described Alex, B spending output of A but A not yet confirmed. The chain of A->B can be broadcast/confirmed together
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Alex|LocalMonero
That's also how I intuitively understood it and how tevador seemed to imply it given the context he brought it up in, but apparently it just means that you can build a chain of txs that spend subsequent change without needing to broadcast them.
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Alex|LocalMonero
However spending unconfirmed coins is just eliminating the 10-block-lock.
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xmrfn[m]
Are the decoys in txn B somehow lower entropy? Seems like there is some statistical significance to having been selected and dependent on presumptive subsequent txn A.
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Alex|LocalMonero
xmrfn[m]: No, because only the actor that creates the membership proof knows the real spend. On-chain, you can't tell a chained tx from a non-chained tx.
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Alex|LocalMonero
We're talking post-seraphis.
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xmrfn[m]
i'm not quire sure that's my question exactly
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xmrfn[m]
s/quire/quite/
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Alex|LocalMonero
Every subsequent tx is presumptive on a preceding tx's outputs being the enotes.
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xmrfn[m]
Can you retroactively determine transactions were chained?
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Alex|LocalMonero
Apart from coinbase txs.
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jtgrassie
Alex|LocalMonero: "That's also how I intuitively understood it" yep, and is what happens on bitcoin (spending unconfirmed outputs in a chain).
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xmrfn[m]
I just can't get over a niggling intuition that picking decoys before the transaction they are "actually" used in, will make them in some way lower entropy/more identifiable. It's just a vague notion, but I mean... entropy increase is how causality works, after all.
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xmrfn[m]
I wonder if a pathological chain of transactions could weaken the global anonymity set more effectively than a set of pathological non-chained transactions.
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politicalweasel[
AFAIU the idea is that the membership proof can be constructed after most of the rest of the transaction. So you effectively have a "pre-signed" transaction whose decoys can be included at the time of broadcasting it
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politicalweasel[
(I think)
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xmrfn[m]
Yes. My wiggling worry is that those decoys have a property not like other decoys. Possibly a property that is statistical in nature and only apparent in retrospect, after the full chain is present on the chain.
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xmrfn[m]
* the full (txn-)chain is, * on the (block-)chain.
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xmrfn[m]
* Yes. My (niggling, totally unscientific) worry is that those decoys have a property not like other decoys. Possibly a property that is statistical in nature and only apparent in retrospect, after the full (txn-)chain is present on the (block-)chain.
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ajs_[m]
MoneroKon 2023 Planning Meeting: Saturday 18th March 2023 @ 18:00 UTC -
monero-project/meta #813
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Rolandroke[m]
I made it to matrix finally
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plowsof11
welcome to matrix! enjoy the lag/encryption errors and feelings of being inferior to the IRC users! heres the Monero space with most of the rooms
matrix.to/#/#monerospace:monero.social
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d34d8its[m]
Using the cli wallet, is there a way to add a note to a previous transaction?
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susman1[m]
know somewhere I can sell my stuff for monero?
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GrantFisher[m]
Ebay -> x -> cake wallet
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RavFX[m]
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GrantFisher[m]
Speaking, I keep getting http 400 unexpected response error on cake exchanges
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GrantFisher[m]
* Speaking of which, I, * cake exchanges. Should I just wait a while? It was working last week
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susman1[m]
<GrantFisher[m]> "Ebay -> x -> cake wallet" <- X?
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susman1[m]
any way to trade precious metals to/for monero?
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GrantFisher[m]
susman1[m]: Cake wallet lets you use ebay gift cards
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GrantFisher[m]
With xmr
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susman1[m]
wb the other way around
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GrantFisher[m]
When it use to work lol
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RavFX[m]
Work only if you live are the US for the ebay gift cards from what I understand
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susman1[m]
can I convert my ebay gains to xmr?
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GrantFisher[m]
Oh shit my American is showing ig
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RavFX[m]
susman1[m]: You can use localmonero.co to convert you're scampal money into monero.
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RavFX[m]
Note that you are likely to pay a premium because no one like paypal and will gladly charge 10-15% extra to cover for the risk of using such an insecure payment system
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susman1[m]
> <@gfdshygti53:monero.social> You can use localmonero.co to convert you're scampal money into monero.
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susman1[m]
>
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susman1[m]
> Note that you are likely to pay a premium because no one like paypal and will gladly charge 10-15% extra to cover for the risk of using such an insecure payment system
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susman1[m]
Cash app?
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susman1[m]
anyone here use grapheneOS?
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RavFX[m]
Cash app? I never used that scam.
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RavFX[m]
But look on localmonero if there are trade for that.
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rooter0_
Don't want to run xmrig in virtual machine as root, so on host machine set up like this:
0bin.net/paste/xS3URiUu#Y45gFmbylcdQQnfXTax7dL6yfiAlplCIwExWwSR+9jT
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rooter0_
... but still FAILED TO APPLY MSR MOD, failed to allocate RandomX dataset using 1GB pages, and huge pages 0%/ Hash rate is slightly slower.
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rooter0_
And for some reason the log doesn't say what my wallet ("user":) is.
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rooter0_
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rooter0_
When I run the minet several other VMs peg to 100%, implying that it's impairing them.
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rooter0_
If -I- can't do this for a lack of info, I wonder how many other n00bs get discouraged like me and go away.
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rooter0_
"The channel topic is "[XMR] Be excellent to each other and welcoming to newcomers". But yesterday I was told to get lost someplace else. This isn't the -dev channel.
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plowsof11
i remember when i was a n00b mining on several VM's
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Rolandroke[m]
Ofc
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Rolandroke[m]
I remember having an income and not having to sell my two 3700x rigs and one 3900x
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plowsof11
are you threatening to "go away" and let us enjoy our saturday?
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rooter0_
It's like the mining VM is dancing around -all- the CPU threads, impairig other VMs..
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Rolandroke[m]
What software are you running
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rooter0_
Now plowsof11... is that "being excellent to each other"?
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rooter0_
xmrig
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Rolandroke[m]
I mean what VM
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rooter0_
KVM with CentOS Stream 9.1
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rooter0_
(host and guests)
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Rolandroke[m]
I have had so much more success with practically everything on Oracle vm
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rooter0_
And passing through CPU cores.
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Rolandroke[m]
Using it for whonix in Windows now but it's so easy to configure compared to others I've tried
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rooter0_
I've never really trusted Oracle.
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Rolandroke[m]
Fair enough
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rooter0_
Yest they said that making these settings on the host would translate through to VMs if I did CPU passthrough.
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Rolandroke[m]
Mining monero is the thing I'm least worried about getting doxed or exploited
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rooter0_
I have 24 years in enterprise infosec, with the attendant paranoia.
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rooter0_
They say they want more miners. I've been trying for weeks, with scips and scraps of info every 2 days or so.
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rooter0_
It's all set like they've said, AFAICT. And what's this about "enjoying Saturday"? I'm 68 and have rarely had a chance to enjoy the weekend.
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Rolandroke[m]
Yeah i have had my computers and phones confiscated by the detectives for over a year, wondering what they would find. Mainly personal stuff. It was a ~100 page investigation into if i bought crypto to use it for buying drugs. Thanks to my old roommate haha. Anyway, what they found was some memory cache where I've read about opsec/encryption (because I'm a fucking nerd and it's my hobby) and tried to get me in jail for 1.5 yrs. Took 2
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Rolandroke[m]
yrs to take it to our version of the supreme court where it ended good, since that day my standard mode is paranoid. And I've only been balls deep in this for like 6-7 yrs
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Rolandroke[m]
(what i mean is that i don't look down on paranoia, it's probably warranted..)
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plowsof11
i personally have zero experience with configuring miners , we do have #xmrmine:matrix.org also. to me it seems like your use case is 'unique' and requires someone to study exactly what you've done already / tried (study your paste bins etc) please have some patience
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Rolandroke[m]
Anyway when i had free electricity i just ran 3 rigs in hiveOS, with Mullvad VPN straight from the asus Merlin router. I don't trust them (hive) for shit but it's free and super easy for mining xmr (i was gpu mining then aswell to be fair).
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Rolandroke[m]
Sorry for jumping into this discussion without really knowing the main issue tho
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rooter0_
Man Rolandroke[m], what a hassle. I always set up disks with encryption, so once I enter that passsword on boot, it's Okthat everything else (VMs and all) autologin. They force you to turn over your password? You can't give them what you don't know. It was your roommate who's gone.
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rooter0_
I was referred to #xmrmine:matrix.org, but a) it's dead, and b) they won't know what I'm talking about.
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rooter0_
I'm running on ProtonVPN, whih was started by the founder of LavaBit, which Snowden used. Feds demanded the keys so he gave it to them on hardcopy in teeny-tiny print. But that was it for LavaBit, and he took those lessons to start Proton. He has no way of decrypting what goes on.
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rooter0_
It should follow that setting these registers on the host as root, would translate through to the VM if CPU passthrough. And this was confirmed here yesterday. But it absolutely does not work, for any of the three crucial settings.
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rooter0_
Plus running the miner impairs other VMs. Is CPU pinning mandatory?
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Rolandroke[m]
<rooter0_> "Man Roland ₿roke, what a hassle...." <- I am just about to eat dinner but after that whole thing is what created this alter ego of mine. I should thank them.
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Rolandroke[m]
I have full disk encryption with custom bootloader ofc, and then a favorite veracrypt container that mounts when i log on, where i store my VM/whonix
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Rolandroke[m]
I would love for them to come try to break into my system now. That incident was many years ago. I hope they bring liquid nitrogen to try and get some of my (encrypted) memory cache. I could get world record benchmarks trying sick ddr timings with that kind of cooling 😁
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Rolandroke[m]
(randomX that is)
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rooter0_
Depending on where you are, they could jail you for not giving your password... which in the US is supposed to be unConstitutional. (Right to not self-incriminate, unreasonable search/siezure).
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rooter0_
But they jail you anyway.
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rooter0_
It's starting to look like nobody's going to help a po' nigga...
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bridgerton[m]
<Bon 💗> Why you need monero I would like to help but I'm broke damnit
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ofrnxmr[m]
<rooter0_> "It's starting to look like..." <- #xmrmine:matrix.org
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ofrnxmr[m]
And before you tell me who's going to know what
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ofrnxmr[m]
Lalalalala
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ofrnxmr[m]
<rooter0_> "I'm running on ProtonVPN, whih..." <- ^ lol
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DanIsnotthemanBr
Kylie minogue song
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Sergi[m]1
Hello is this an official room?
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selsta
yes
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rooter0_
Now; ofrnxmr[m], is that in line with, "The channel topic is "[XMR] Be excellent to each other and welcoming to newcomers"??
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ofrnxmr[m]
You've been here for weeks asking for mining help and have too much pride to ask where the mining experts reside
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ofrnxmr[m]
#xmrmine:matrix.org please
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Sergi[m]1
Ok but I will join off topic room instead 🙏
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rooter0_
The mining experts are in -dev. #xmrmine:matrix.org is dead. Why are you so unkind?
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rooter0_
Oh yes 've been here for weeks but my questions are advanced.
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rooter0_
If you don't know the answers best to step aside please.
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ofrnxmr[m]
Maybe I do
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ofrnxmr[m]
Id direct you to #monero-support:monero.social but that isnt bridged to irc.
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ofrnxmr[m]
So #xmrmine:matrix.org it is
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ofrnxmr[m]
Or you can keep whining and talking to yourself until you get kicked
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rooter0_
So you're withholding them out of recalcitrance?
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ofrnxmr[m]
Yes
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rooter0_
Why are you so unkind?
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ofrnxmr[m]
You've been politely asked to go to the appropriate places after ddosing this room with personal technical support
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ofrnxmr[m]
I was just born like this ♥️. I dont try to be mean
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rooter0_
For the 5th time, I've observed that that channel is dead. And given the sorts of questions asked they are in no position to understand my issues.
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ofrnxmr[m]
Have you posted in that channel
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rooter0_
No
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ofrnxmr[m]
Well then whatever you think means nothing
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ofrnxmr[m]
Its dead because youre posting here
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rooter0_
But who am I going to trust? You, or my own lying eyes?
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ofrnxmr[m]
Spaceguide Endor00
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ofrnxmr[m]
Oh, you were 'BT acting for actual answers
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ofrnxmr[m]
You just want to bang your head asking non miners how to do advanced mining
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ofrnxmr[m]
Instead of asking the advanced miners
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ofrnxmr[m]
ofrnxmr[m]: You were *not* asking for actual answers **
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ofrnxmr[m]
rooter0_: Believe me
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ofrnxmr[m]
Your eyes are liars 💯
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rooter0_
Pls se above.
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ofrnxmr[m]
Pls se #xmrmine:matrix.org and post therr
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merope
rooter0_: I'll take "what is observational bias" for 500$, Alex
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Alex|LocalMonero
Alright, let's take a look at the screen!
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rooter0_
Not everyone here holds your opinion. Nor is as unkind.
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merope
Also, how can you judge people's competence when you've never even spoken to them?
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rooter0_
The log is there.
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merope
There's a log in my pants too, what's your point?
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rooter0_
Clever merope. "*** The channel topic is "[XMR] Be excellent to each other and welcoming to newcomers"
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merope
If you seriously believe that not even one person in a room full of hundereds of people has an answer to your problem, you're either trying to compile xmrig on a 5000 qbit quantum computer, or you should check your attitude
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merope
Oooh, you're on irc, that's why you see the mining channel as dead
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merope
That matrix room is not bridged
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rooter0_
"There's a log in my pants too, what's your point?" -My- attitude?
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rooter0_
No I went there in the web interface.
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merope
What web interface? 🤔
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rooter0_
Ok, let's bicker for a while.
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merope
Genuine question, I'm not sure what you're talking about
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rooter0_
"Your eyes are liars." etc
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rooter0_
Bait, declined.
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merope
As an mod on #xmrmine:matrix.org , I can assure you it's not a dead channel. Just less off-topic chatter about random stuff
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rooter0_
Instead of exploring unexplored ways of mining Monero... let's bicker.
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merope
If you ask a question, someone will usually respond
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ofrnxmr[m]
Unexplored? Says you
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ofrnxmr[m]
Google says otherwise
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ofrnxmr[m]
Looking into bridge
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ofrnxmr[m]
merope: He had plenty of help for weeks
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ofrnxmr[m]
From sech himself
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rooter0_
Nobody else is doing what I am trying to do. Ok your turnto deny.
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ofrnxmr[m]
But hes too much of a 24 year expert to listen
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rooter0_
sech encouraged my idea.
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ofrnxmr[m]
Mining monero with your 6600xt?
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ofrnxmr[m]
Through a VM?
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ofrnxmr[m]
Your eyes must be liars
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rooter0_
Ok you don't understand this.
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ofrnxmr[m]
I skipped through like 4 days of your expertise, sry
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rooter0_
You just wanna fight.
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ofrnxmr[m]
No, I want you to ask a question and then follow instructions
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ofrnxmr[m]
And stop asking the wrong people
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rooter0_
See above then.
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ofrnxmr[m]
And stop claiming to be an expert when you dont know hownto Google
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ofrnxmr[m]
Nah
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ofrnxmr[m]
Repeat the question for everyone who isnt me
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rooter0_
Wow. (I don't 'G**gle'. It's The Greatest Data Mining Operation In The World.)
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ofrnxmr[m]
Damn. Were doomed
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rooter0_
You just wanna fight.
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merope
rooter0_: just looked at the two pastes you linked above
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rooter0_
Then you have an idea of what I'm trying to do.
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rooter0_
sech said yesterday it should work, but I can't make it work and don't understand why.
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merope
For starters, your xmrig config does not seem to have a valid Monero address in it
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merope
Should start with a 4
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rooter0_
(I've excised my wallet#)
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rooter0_
... for the paste
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merope
Alright
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ofrnxmr[m]
Next time replace it with REDACTED 👍
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merope
Second of all, disable your gpu. Mining randomx on a gpu is not worth the time to get it to work. Gpus are far slower and far less efficient than cpus at this algo
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merope
Even if you had free electricity, it would still be a waste of time
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merope
That's how bad it is
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nioc
Sometimes mining with cpu + gpu gives less hr than only cpu
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rooter0_
Sure. But I have an efficient GPU and want to at least -try-- it before putting it in the drawer. But that's for another time.
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nioc
It is not efficient for mining monero
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rooter0_
Issue here is CPU settings on host, not translating through to mining VM.
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ofrnxmr[m]
<ofrnxmr[m]> "No, I want you to ask a question..." <- ^
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ofrnxmr[m]
<ofrnxmr[m]> "And stop claiming to be an..." <- ^
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rooter0_
... even with CPU passthrough.
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ofrnxmr[m]
Follow instructions pls
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rooter0_
I'm not here to fight ofrnxmr[m], and you are unfriendly.
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ofrnxmr[m]
I am, I know.
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ofrnxmr[m]
Not friendly, that is
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ofrnxmr[m]
But that has nothing to do with the price of tea in China
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ofrnxmr[m]
Follow instructions please
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merope
rooter0_: Ask anyone on the mining chat (on matrix/telegram): you can expect 1-2 kH/s tops out of the gpu, with a power cost of 100-200W. That's ~10 H/s/W, compared to 80-130 H/s/W of a typical ryzen/epyc cpu. Just not worth it
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merope
As for msr and hugepages
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rooter0_
Understand merope and I have that message. But that's not the issue ATM.
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merope
Unless something has changed, if you run the randomx boost script that sets msr "manually" and then run xmrig without root, xmrig will complain about failing to apply msr, but it's still gonna work
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rooter0_
But hashrate should have gone up by almost 50% according to docs, and it's lower if anything.
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rooter0_
hugepages and 1GB pages are still zero.
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merope
1gb pages are a separate item from huge pages
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merope
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rooter0_
With 50 CPUs it's 10-11 H/s.
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rooter0_
Sure, and diff scripts. But I have them both in the systemd service as oneshots.
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rooter0_
... and they work without error on the host.
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rooter0_
Setting the registers on the host should translate through to VMs when CPUs are passed through. (my idea)
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rooter0_
... but it hain't.
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ofrnxmr[m]
You're running xmrig on the host (?)
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ofrnxmr[m]
Or on the guest/vm (?)
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rooter0_
No just setting CPU registers.
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ofrnxmr[m]
I thought you said the former?
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rooter0_
xmrin in the VM.
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ofrnxmr[m]
Setting registers from the VM ?
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rooter0_
No, doesn't work
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ofrnxmr[m]
Xmrig from vm
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ofrnxmr[m]
Registers from host?
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rooter0_
Yes
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rooter0_
Set CPU registers in host, and hose settings should translate through to the VM if CPUs are passed through.
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ofrnxmr[m]
KVM?
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rooter0_
Yes
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rooter0_
CentOS Stream 9.1 everywhere.
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merope
Setting cpu registers on the host is one thing, but I would not assume that hugepage locking also gets passed through
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merope
Check that your virtualization engine actually supports that feature, and/or needs specific settings to allow the vm to do so
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merope
Pretty sure I remember someone else in the mining chat having issues with this
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rooter0_
sech said it should work, yest.
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merope
"ipse dixit" is not a guarantee
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sech1
MSR should work, huge pages - no idea
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ofrnxmr[m]
> As an alternative you can go to miner source directory and run sudo ./scripts/enable_1gb_pages.sh
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sech1
Usually, OS inside VM says that huge pages work, but they don't really work
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rooter0_
None of the three settings are translating through sech1.
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merope
Alternatively, if you want to do a sanity check, try rebooting the host and running xmrig without the hugepages setting, and compare that result with the results you're getting right now
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ofrnxmr[m]
And without msr
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rooter0_
In initial listing it says hugepages and 1GB pages are supported, but a bit later it says o% and not supported.
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ofrnxmr[m]
Check your hwinfo etc
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merope
That could very well be kvm lying about the availability of those features
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ofrnxmr[m]
And make sure everything is being passed through completely...
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merope
Check kvm docs as well
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rooter0_
If it means compiling KVM I just need to set this aside.
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merope
Did I say compiling kvm?
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rooter0_
If it's not supported?
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merope
If it's not supported, it might not be implemented at all
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rooter0_
Seems like 10k H/s is way low for 50 CPUs.
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rooter0_
I've tried everything.
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merope
No, 10 kH/s on 50 epyc cores simply means that you are doing something horribly wrong
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rooter0_
lol, Prob.
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merope
The real solution is not running xmrig in a vm at all
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rooter0_
Three VMs in my herd peg CPU when I start mining, of course the miner, but also two unrelated. It's as if core assignment is dancing around.
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merope
You're already running the boost scripts anyway, so just run xmrig without root and call it a day
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rooter0_
I can't run a miner on my main server. I am hard-core infosec.
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rooter0_
It does recognize that it's in a VM. I've tried several methods of cloaking but xmrig still finds out.
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merope
If you're hardcore infosec, then you should understand what that miner can and cannot do, and you should be able to check the source and compile it yourself
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rooter0_
Maybe that's why none of this works.
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rooter0_
Oh I -did- compile monerod and xmrig myself since there are no binaries for RHEL.
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merope
Cool. Then run xmrig on the host and call it a day. Virtualization only hurts performance, anyway
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rooter0_
Thanks but I just can't do that. I'll try to find where xmrig tests for VM.
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merope
If you do change and decide to listen to other people's advice for a change, come by #xmrmine:matrix.org on Matrix (or telegram) and ask for folks if anyone has tried to run xmrig under KVM. *Maybe* you're not the only one in the world who has ever tried to deal with it ;)
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rooter0_
Oh I doubt that. :j
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rooter0_
I'm prob the first in the World. Woudn't be the first time.
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rooter0_
scripts/build/libuv-1.44.2/autom4te.cache/traces.1:m4trace:configure.ac:79: -1- AC_DEFINE_TRACE_LITERAL([HAVE_LIBKVM])
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rooter0_
src/Summary.cpp: info->isVM() ? RED_BOLD_S " VM" : ""
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ofrnxmr[m]
rooter0_: Probably not
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ofrnxmr[m]
Definitely not*
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merope
I guess my hints were too thinly veiled, and you've decided to ignore my earlier message in which I said I distinctly remember a conversation dealing with this exact issue in that chat room
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rooter0_
Why would they cripple xmrig by testing for VM?
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merope
But that's ok - it's your head banging against the wall, not mine. I've done my part
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rooter0_
I hear you merope. I'll check it out again.
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rooter0_
And that is -definitely where the result of the test is.
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rooter0_
I guess they test for VM assuming the CPUs aren't passed through.
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ofrnxmr[m]
#rooters-diary
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ofrnxmr[m]
#monero-pools:monero.social
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ofrnxmr[m]
That one is on irc 🥲
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rooter0_
Ok I get it. I won't teach you anymore ofrnxmr[m].
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ofrnxmr[m]
You arent teaching anyone
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ofrnxmr[m]
Please stop tytytytyttty
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orion_midast[m]
Hey guys, hope everyone is doing well
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orion_midast[m]
has there been any update of monero whitepaper ? I was told Zero To Monero is a more up to date paper
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orion_midast[m]
just want to make sure before I start reading up
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nioc
not sure if it qualifies as a whitepaper but is more up to date technically
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nioc
y not both?
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nioc
I have not read either, I am just a parrot
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nioc
there have been many changes in 9 years
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rooter0_
Ok, hidden the fact that it's n a VM from xmrig. But performance is much worse at ~8k H/s.
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rooter0_
I find that the CPU cores are in fact getting pre-empted, causing serious impact on other VMs, molto context switches, cache dumps, etc. So CPU pinning should fix it.
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orion_midast[m]
<nioc> "y not both?" <- I dont want to read something that wont benefit me😂
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orion_midast[m]
the knowledge has to be useful
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rooter0_
I think that pinning cores is another major undocumented necessity.
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rooter0_
And in fstab must be: hugetlbfs /dev/hugepages hugetlbfs defaults
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rooter0_
(on host)
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plowsof11
i don't know what pinning cores means
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rooter0_
You're assigning specific host CPU cores to a given VM and to the host.
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plowsof11
if its a necessity please make a pull request
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rooter0_
Idk how to do a pull req and am not interested in learning. But the special settings I'm making are on the host.
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rooter0_
... not the mining VM. This way you don't have to run xmrig as root.
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rooter0_
... although I'm not there yet.
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plowsof11
if you can type the info you say is a necessity in 'one place' somewhere it would be helpful - i will then make a pull request to monero github repos and claim it as my own
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rooter0_
Cores must be pinned in a certain way, so there's no context switching or cache loss.
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plowsof11
i mean credit you*
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plowsof11
or rather, xmrig repo?
github.com/xmrig/xmrig
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rooter0_
Hey, I've gotten alot of hostility here. I'm posting this specifically for the few who have actually helped me like sech.
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plowsof11
people read these messages, then go on with their day, maybe they forget.. please type what changes you want to be done somewhere, else this learning experience may not be so helpful to others
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rooter0_
sech1 will understand. That's the only reason I'm sharing this.
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rooter0_
You've given me shit yourself plowsof11. Thinking I'm some kind a idiot, following o???whatshisname's lead.
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rooter0_
... when I was already way past y'all and you didn't know it.
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plowsof11
i said "are you threatening to "go away" and let us enjoy our saturday?"
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rooter0_
That's disrespectful and denigrating.
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rooter0_
Anyway as I've said many times, I'm not here to bicker.
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rooter0_
"*** The channel topic is "[XMR] Be excellent to each other and welcoming to newcomers"
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plowsof11
yes, and you tried to make everyone feel like they where failing
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rooter0_
I wasn't trying anything except to get on with the tech.
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plowsof11
<rooter0_> "If -I- can't do this for a..." <- this comment ^ displaying an ego and telling the group that if they don't fix your problem they have failed all noobs in the world
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rooter0_
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ofrnxmr[m]
Sech1 stopped replying noob
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ofrnxmr[m]
Mr I dont want to learn
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ofrnxmr[m]
Great attitude
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ofrnxmr[m]
Ill learn for you /s
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ofrnxmr[m]
> Idk how to do a pull req and am not interested in learning. But the special settings I'm making are on the host.
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ofrnxmr[m]
Lmao
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rooter0_
I'm sorry that you and plowsof11 are incels.
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ofrnxmr[m]
No, were productive
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ofrnxmr[m]
You're just an expert
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plowsof11
how did you know???
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ofrnxmr[m]
24 or 25 years of exoeriece was it?
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rooter0_
Your behavior.
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orion_midast[m]
cmon guys, no need for any of that shit
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ofrnxmr[m]
Waited 68 years to learn
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ofrnxmr[m]
orion_midast: its been a week
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ofrnxmr[m]
A week +
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plowsof11
rooter0_ is your problem fixed?
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ofrnxmr[m]
And mr Sir doesnt like to take advice or follow instructions
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ofrnxmr[m]
He's an expert that wants to tell us what he has to do and that we need to figure it out for him
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ofrnxmr[m]
Plenty have replied, plenty have helped, plenty have given him better resources.
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ofrnxmr[m]
He wont leave this room or learn a damn thing unless we do it backwards/his way