Either or

I did a bit of this and bit of that

Then boom worked

<DanIsnotthemanBr> "Then boom worked" <- I'm calling the anti terrorist squad

Snitches get stitches 😏

Thanks I don't think my surgeon stitched me up right last time

Any Monero/agorism focused pirate radio?

hi

i have a compile error that is only on windows OS  "paste.debian.net/1275604"

Guest56 what's your GCC version? Are you using msys64 to build?

*msys2

found this: zeromq/libzmq #3859

I have no issues building on Windows with the latest msys2 - try to run "pacman -Syu" two times and build Monero from scratch again

ahh, you're using "mingw32"

switch to 64-bit mingw

lol

why do they quit without saying anything

sorry my internet goes off some times

how to switch to 64

Download and install msys2-x86_64-20230318.exe

and you should be running 64-bit Windows

im compiling from depends

make depends target=x86_64-w64-mingw32

not sure about depends

I never build them

i'm on linux and there is no windows..

<Epic [Monero & Algorand]> is this bridge?

It's probably ZereMQ issue, see zeromq/libzmq #3859

Monero uses 4.3.4 which has this issue

<Epic [Monero & Algorand]> Hello , im really need some guide how to have atleast a decent privacy on a cashless society... (full message at <libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/do…e4168a6d6067d3c97cae4878e1b6504fb68>)

<Epic [Monero & Algorand]> if cashless society happened and i think it will happens

especially alot of stores in my place has stop accepting cash and all transportation don't accept cash anymore

i will not shock in 3-5 years all store will not accept cash anymore

if that happens , will i just give up my privacy?

Guest56 are you building Windows binaries on Linux? Because "make depends target=x86_64-w64-mingw32" is used for cross-compilation

Did you run "update-alternatives --set x86_64-w64-mingw32-g++ x86_64-w64-mingw32-g++-posix && update-alternatives --set x86_64-w64-mingw32-gcc x86_64-w64-mingw32-gcc-posix" ?

read github.com/monero-project/monero#cross-compiling

update-alternatives: error: alternative path is not absolute as it should be: x86_64-w64-mingw32-g++-posix

why?

no idea

it's better to ask this in #monero-dev

lrwxrwxrwx 1  /usr/bin/x86_64-w64-mingw32-g++ -> /etc/alternatives/x86_64-w64-mingw32-g++

paths are ok

so is zeromq issue

<Rucknium[m]> "First, get a dataset of sunspot..." <- Thank you Rucknium but what do you mean with sunspot activity? All I get in Google is info about actual solar sunspots, nothing about finance.

Sunspot activity is short-term random, but long-term predictable - a good training set

<sech1> "Sunspot activity is short-term..." <- Do you know where I can find one? I haven't found many useful .csv datasets for Monero. I've only found 3 datasets (two with just Open, High, Low and Close values and a 3rd one with many features but not sure if reliable)

No idea

you can ask on reddit r/xmrtrader - if they know places where to download XMR/BTC or XMR/USD candles for long periods of time

<Martin L> buy privacy phones with monero

they also sell privacy accessories + worldwide shipping

sorry for advertising

jefazo92: have you considered creating your own dataset? Kraken is a good source for data, for example, and they have many libraries in different languages to interact with their api with ease

> <@bridgerton:matrix.org> <Martin L> buy privacy phones with monero... (full message at <libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/do…d549642cf916519163984782258404fe42c>)

> <@bridgerton:matrix.org> <Martin L> buy privacy phones with monero... (full message at <libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/do…15fd26d3187c4e31013fdb8cf12e38e72c4>)

New Stack wallet release 🔥🔥

Stable syncing of xmr wallets hasarrived 🥳

I like what stack does with their duo wallet.

trio and the quadro coming soon?

reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/125j81…r_worth_of_xmr_rinoio_moneroversary "100 EUR worth of Monero to a Twitter follower each week in April." @rayatina

Does anyone know of a matrix room/job board/forum specifically for jobs that pay in cryptos?

There is/was a telegram one, not sure if its active

Monerojobs or something like that

Telegram. 🤮

I'll do some digging though, thanks.

never thought I'd see the day people put nfts on monero

You call this an nft?

hand-picked AI generated art

They mint 12 of each

<Bon 💗> That is one interesting nft

12 times the same one?

And this one was only 1kb before element converted it 😅

<Bon 💗> I thought nfts were going to be creative

12 times with different colors

Gives me goosebumps. So cringe

<Bon 💗> Those are funny looking nfts and cute at the same tjne but they creep me out

They are neither cute nore funny, nor nfts mordinals.org

They are horrible quality, and if you look closesly they are mostly twisted ai art

<Bon 💗> Oh

I say they arent nfts, because they are 🚮. At least when we tested it, we put nice things up there

they are indistinguishable from spam

Yep. These arent saleable. Just poisoning / bloat for no reason

Limits arent even on yet and they're spamming low quality nonsense.

Do custom nodes still allow non standard decoy selections?

Im thinking about getting decoy fixed out before a HF.

I dont mind my rings standing out as "more private due to no coinbase or weird size tx as decoys", vs poisened rings

But im just thinking out loud atm

(Which might mean, if youre a jackass sending an nft, it would be fingerprinted as the true spend because all decoys would be normal sized tx)

Or better, dont even use rings when sending those shits

make it easy to ID so decoy algo could just not use them. That would fix the poison issue (but not the useless bloat)

No ring for them could same some space I guess so it's good too. There NFT anyway so they don't need fungibility

A 1in 2 out should be 1.49-1.51kb iirc. Maybe more or less precise?

Only tx within that size range should be used for decoys

I find it highly dangerous to do anything that they could construe as "The Monero devs support us"

Yep, the only 1/2 you include should be of that size I think too

And I fear adjusting our decoy selection is exactly something abusable in this direction

I guess they do the best to weed it out but we need a backup plan in case we can't weed them out

The decoy selection is garbage, rbrunner

We don't have an emergency with our rings. We lived happily with 11-member rings for a long time

Thats a foregone conclusion

Nfts on monero is as useless as building a browser into the ls command. Someone just trying to prove a point and others will just use it as an attack

Happily? Ill say again. The decoy selection is trash

I was a browser into ls command

want*

Trash? Quite in general? Please elaborate.

And made much worst by consolidation, coinbase, and now txextra

I got lost in links

Most economically meaninful tx are 2 out transactions

The decoy also will allow 99% 1/16 if that is what is available to choose from

If you mean we should get something I think called "full membership proof" as soon as possible, then I would say that will take quite a while

Decoy algo need to be also improved in relation to coinbase tx.

No, I mean we need to standardize outputs and fix the decoy selection algo

Standardize?

You can have outputs anywhere from 2-16.

Decoy selection will choose any if them

Most organic usage aka economically meaningful tx are 2 out

You cant have a situation where someone can spam bad decoys to lower effective ring size

💢 stupid IRS hasnt emailed me yet.

But now we strayed already far away from the mordinal problems, no?

Sounds like a list "And beside, this and this and this is also broken"

they can spam 1k morbs, same poison, just more compact poison, so better poison.

No, mordinal current behavior is poisoning via high output spam

They could have done the low output bloat, but chose to litter on the decoys

Weakest link, lowest hanging fruit

I tried to make an argument from a psychological point of view that I consider it dangerous to live more comfortably with mordinals. That will only embolden them.

Or better said, to change something for living more comfortably

See how I mean that. Problem: Terrorist blow up things in our town daily. Solution: Not stopping the terrorist, no, equip everybody with a bomb detector

If we change decoy selection to evade mordinals I claim we play into their hands

That's backup plan in case stopping terrorists fail and require more time. I don't like the idea eater but the poison is being injected since weeks so far...

rbrunner: Agreed

But my process right now is. Limiting wasnt as easy as it looked

And isnt effective at anything

Er, we didn't even start, did we?

why 1060 bytes? wasnt ~600 enough?

rbrunner: Yeah

1069 #8733 pr didnt work

No, legit stuff for legit transactions can amount to that

1060kb*

With a bit of leeway

Didnt work like.. it was banning nodes etc and causing a chain split

Exactly :)

That was a bit embarrassing

And even with the limit, morbs live on with no real changes to operations

So. If we cant remove in a HF ASAP

We still need to deal with the immediate problem of rapidly decaying fungibility

We will see. For me it's as much a psychological fight as a technical one

It's not "rapidly decaying". Right now we have exactly *one* asshole from Hungary spamming.

The decoy stuff I mention, would run on my own node etc. And would like more research etc to make decoy selection a consensus rule (specifically for coinbase), and preferrably a removal of Txextra.

Im not sure if I misunderstood the pr, but I though 1060=547 for outputs, ~512 for Txextra (32bytes per output)

But I can out a 1kb image on a 2:2 txextra

If it was 32bytes per output, I honestly would say fuck it

And id assume morbs would too. Too much work

These fuckers put 200mb on my node.

It's only the beginning imo

is mordinals a vulnerability?

or should I say, tx_extra is a vulnerability and mords an exploit

That is more like I would look at it. Together maybe with still quite low fees, but this is more controversial.

"The mint rate has seemed to slow down over the past 48 hours. As of about 24 hours ago, total number of Mordinal txs were 24,222. Sum of Mordinal tx sizes was 202 Megabytes. Total fees to mint Mordinals was 4.05 XMR."

From Rucknium, our resident statistician

I did notice too, by looking at the onion explorer. Rate is going down (for now)

They must need some funding :(. Only had $600 to start

pls donate

doug in the house! or doug imposter

> <@spacekitty420:matrix.org> yall mofos up in this bitch literally so retarded or what, like, yall acting like no one ever had malicious intents regarding the monero blockchain... (full message at <libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/do…5f59ebc5bce8c635baaefc39fe6c09dce26>)

<Nitro> Has there been any evidence that a 3 letter agency has fucked with Monero at any point before? O_o

Nah

As far as I can tell, the only "legit" attack was the august 2021(?) flooding

Gpt?

And that was most likely some independent researcher/troll

DanIsnotthemanBr: ?

Three letter agency

monerobull[m]: And the node fuckery by fireice

Wonder if anyone has asked gptchat about worldcoin

I did

It's the eye scanning one by the same guy as gpt right

whats this worldscan?

work searching it on a search engine?

Chatgpt guy had the great idea to make a Crypto you get by scanning yours and others eyeballs

It's as dystopian as it gets

Ah,. that world ID scam, I think I did read about it

fsck that scam

monerobull[m]: Yeah creator of worldcoin

Look into my eyes

Fortunately someone leaked facebook trained models.... And someone else made a c++ program that can use that on a competant PC... Better than chatGPU and Offline...

now I have your coins

Downloading 220GB worth of model data right now actually lol

Am i the only idiot thinking cia should be using xmr?

CIA is using XMR

IS, not should, lol

They better be running a node

It's probably the owner of the 1Gh/s miner... so they can get some without buying it

the CIA is everywhere doing everything

Or else

<Nitro> That sounds cool

<Nitro> honestly

@Nitro#6429

ah I guess it doesn't work

So bridges doesn't support ping on Discord?

<᷾s> The bridges don't support quote replies either, discord has a weird websocket thing for bots and bridges and the bridge has less privileges compared to a user

<Nitro> ah I see

I have a question about funding a deposit on bisq. If I make the deposit from kraken (KYC) does that mean my bisq transaction is tied to that also?

Of course

Unless you are trading Monero from Kraken for Bisq Bitcoin

But i don't know why you'd do that

if i withdraw from kraken to my own wallet then fund bisq, kraken wouldnt be able to track that transaction through to the person on the other end of the trade on bisq?

Does bisq touch the tx?

kraken -> wallet A -> bisq -> btc seller wallet

i need to fund the bisq wallet (deposit) to be able to buy on bisq

why would you want to buy bitcoin, monero has nfts also

crypto to crypto can be done over tor on a crypto exchange site too

yea monero is totally fine too, sorry just used to using btc with bisq. I would be sending monero from kraken to my own wallet, then funding the bisq deposit.

why's the price not pumping now that it supports nfts...

Local monero

buy nfts in local monero?