This place Dead?

nope

Sir Teal has received assistance in #monero-community:monero.social , btw.

OK I am totally baffled I am copying my .bitmonero folder from monero-x86_64-linux-gnu-v0.18.0.0 to v0.18.2.0 an it wont seem to synch from the same block I was at before.

even when i put it in the home folder and I point it there it still wont synch from where I was before.

But when I synch with ./monerod --data-dir=. in the v.0.18.0.0 it synchs at 94% complete

I even pointed my term session from the v.0.18.2.0 to v.0.18.0.0 and still it wont synch the chain from the same place I am missing something in what I am doing.

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Found plowsof @plowsof:matrix.org: s new side hustle

LMAO. What a shit project

monero.fail is now serving the Onion-Location header to a hidden service

Link doesnt want to load in chrome 🤔, working over tor though

<Bon 💗>

<Bon 💗> Works for me just fine and i use Firefox

<Bon 💗> :pepe_weed:

happened to me as well ofrnxmr, i had to close/open browser

Weird. Had to restart my phone. Working now

Ty 👌

Trocador.app is it good or not and is it anonymous as it says it is

Yes, used multiple times

And also they have tor address

majesticbank.sc

i also use wizardswap.io but the fees are a bit high

<xmrlover[m]> "Trocador.app is it good or not..." <- by far the beat option currently. They are a swap aggregator, so you get always the best rate out of multiple options, and they only list reliable swap services, each with an individual rating

if you use it over TOR you get better privacy then with any other swap service

better privacy then majesticbank directly ?

or other swap service

isn't it like a proxy ?

kycnot.me

for list of real swap services

yes, it is a proxy, so the exchanges don't even get your IP

but that proxy knows all about your transaction

address, amount

and because trocador is a rather big player with good traffic, swap services are forced to remain honest or risk loosing that revenue stream

how is that more private, it's centralization of blockchain activity

I'd rather trust trocador then you

they havent been caught with their pants down several times

forget trust

you shill centralization

you have a history of scammy behavior

kycnot.me

ceetee[m]: obviously you'd recommend "forget about trust"

if I were you I'd do the same

decentralization is what we should support

this is why monero is king :)

Not using majesticBank is what I'd support

it's okay, I see we have different values :)

make no mistake, I'm in favor of decentralization, that's why I recommend against using your service. You were the ones who published a shitty fork of cakewallet, wiped the commit history, build in privacy flaws (that are fixed in a newer version of cake) and modified the build script so it doxxes the IP of every dev who tried building it without verifying every detail.

Yea sounds like a trustworthy swap provider

muh decentralisation

thanks ofrnxmr[m] for your opinion, really appreciate that

I don't get how you get to vote at monerokon events meetings tho but it's okay

Always accuse your opponent of what you're guilty of yourself. This is the time where I should mention the 15 accounts that appeared in the #monero-events:monero.social room for exactly one meeting, the one in which we voted on MajesticBank beeing a sponsor, and which were removed recently AT ONCE by the inactivity bot

what a coincidence

ofrnxmr[m] , do they pay you for this or you doing this voluntarily, monerobull said he thinks it's not paid

do you have time during the next monero space?

I'd hop on just to say hi to you

it's just that I see notmath doing same thing, friends don't shill for free, know your value

you can holla me at monerokon or monerotopia

what are you even talking about

I can't get just do you have some real problem or this is scripted by someone, can you share that with us today

na dude, YOU are responsible for proof that you aren't shady as fuck

<ceetee[m]> "Always accuse your opponent of..." <- this is strong evidance for bought votes

The embedded proxy server is strong evidence for tracking users

The fetching form your servers during build is strong evidence for tracking devs

I saw your post on twitter on exit scam FUD and that you vandalized our kycnot review section kycnot.me/exchange/majesticbank

you harass me on 6-7 platforms man, you are just making more evidence who is bad actor in the community

shilling cake+trocador in same time

if you are doing this for free, then wow, congrats, I wouldn't spend so much of my life on something like this ever for free

I'm sorry, you're mistaking me, I don't have twitter

<Bon 💗> I like trovador.app it's good

s/trovador/trocador/

Just saw the ping

Finished reading

Saying Trocador is not good for privacy is just as saying VPNs are not good for privacy. Both help you interact with someone else, while hiding your IP. Trocador was built from ground up focused on privacy since day one. The user can access via TOR and I2P, still get the best rates and has been serving correctly users for months now. Users dont even need to swap with us, they can just get the best rate and trade directly with the best

exchange.

Well, it was a nice run Majestic.

<ceetee[m]> "this is strong evidance for..." <- proof: matrix.to/#/!gclBVGbCMQJYuMOAYr:mon…g&via=libera.chat&via=monero.social

Its ok everybody

Majestic needs to kick and scream a little bit on his way getting tossed out, lmao

But of course, Trocador has a lot of good guy points from the community because it was built by the same person that built Moneroj.net and is delivering it for free for two years.

He's jsut mad because he has no partners and cant bribe anyone to suck his pecker

<MajesticBank> "I saw your post on twitter on..." <- look what i found!:

pluja..... hmm I've seen the name before

oh yes, one of the accounts that showed up for one meeting

Its ol everybody.

Tldr. Dont use majestic

And am I getting paid for what?

And from whom?

Speak up ya jester

I like comedy

Who's paying ofrnxmr 🍿

Lets see these wild accusations

ofrn I'm having a ggod time

Have you guys heard? Using VPNs is bad for privacy because of centralization 🤣

Ceetre

ceetee[m]: stop interrupting me 💢💢

Were you ofrnxmr?

I think he was saying you are me?

implying at least

Ah. I was confused. Lmao

WOOHOOOO

I have almost many alts as majestic now

But my ALTs are so much more unique

I'll take that as a compliment to be confused with you :D

I am just s bot, afterall

it was so much work to get the arguing between us bot accounts working

Not as hard as keeping majeticbank running!

If majestic thinks im being paid, why hasnt he tried to outbid my handler?

Cmon majestic, offer me some money

the account that vandalized kycnot section shilled trocador which was at that point 1 month old

and trocador is developer behind monero.com squatting domain

lmao what

monero.com was bought by cake

Morpheus developed the UI of the website ya damn weirdo

TIL Majestic has never heard of a contractor

vandalized *our* kycnot section with negative comments

Whats your problem with trocador? Too much accountability?

Shutup

Your exchange has 0 protitive previews lmao, who are you talking to??

Were not your ALTs, ya dumbass

most of these services are just money making businesses for those who run them. Thats literally all it is

Except majestic service doesnt even run

They shil ltheir shit to make that 2-3-4-whatever percentage by shagging you up the ass on exchange rates

And people end up with bad trades all the damn time

Majestic just disappears for days on end

Bullshit service

show some respect man to this community, what this people worked for and built so far

every heard of WYSIWYG?? Yeah, majestic hasnt

<MajesticBank> "the account that vandalized..." <- Is this a new conspiracy that I'm not aware of?

Conspiracy??

ofrnxmr[m]: Yes, exactly

Cant be

His exchange is shit

Those negative reviews are real

Obv

BasicSwap basically just puts all these services to bed.

Its harder to get positive reviews than negative

And the fact that his vending machine eats your money = negative reviews

TheDisruptiveCol: Basicswap uses comit atomic swaps

One way

ofrnxmr[m]: Yes.

ofrnxmr[m]: Unless this changes

MajesticBank: Trocador has never done any retarded tactic such as these. We just build and deliver... and our positive reviews are all from happy users

Fuck trocador

Traitor

😆😆

(/s)

<Bon 💗> Wait really

<Bon 💗> What they do

Nono, /s means sarcasm

If someone vandalized something, you guys should be serving better your clients. Certainly wasn't us. We dont have time for stupid forum posts

Dont lie morph, I saw you do it. Jealously will get you nowhere ! /s

You're jsut mad that majestic wanted to be delisted from trocador 🥹🥹🥹 /s

i think bridge is slow ofrn

Im laughing my ass off over here 🤣. It cant get much more hilarious

it's worst when community give you finger and you want whole hand, greed is bad, it's like premine

Hahahaha

I still don't know why they wanted to be delisted. Care to explain MajesticBank MajesticExchange

Because they dont like accountability

No, really, if I only had time to create drama that would be awesome 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Doesn't matter. They arent listed anywhere anymore 🤡

I wasn't asking you !!!1!

ceetee[m]: Stop talking to yourself

We are one

Another thing we would never do is to tell fud about any of our partners just for personal profit

get out of my head, get out of my head, get out of my head, get out of my head, get out of my head, aaaaaaaaaa

That's absurd

DW. Twitter thread coming soon on "why trocador is windows"

My moral compass forbids me to do it. Even now, after we are no longer partners, I won't spread FUD about majestic

Mr "blue screen of death" exchange has a lot to say

I even defended majestic quite a few times

Not me. I have no morals. I got paid to fud majestic.

(ROFL. I fought to allow him as a cypherpunk )

I never addressed you, I said someone affiliated and it's obvious

Then he threatened to withdraw, now hes flailing like a fish out of water

Not sure why you defend yourself

Obviously because hes guilty. Next question

Mr damage control via victimization lmao. Pathetic behaviors

Hahaha

I like to tell people good stuff from Trocador, that's all 🚀

Majestic is not even a competitor to Trocador. We dont see it that way.

We aggregate exchanges, we would certainly prefer to have another exchange by our side

What we do is provide a space for them conto compete and improve their services

Hey majestic, why was elitewallet proxy down at the same time as majesticbank

s/conto/to/

Liars gonna lia

Lie*

Hey majestic, why not explain the downtime instead of asking why you got bad reviews?

that post before monero events voting on seth paste was pathetic also, you are just making this case against bad actor in community more solid

What?

Voting on Seth?

dude don't you remember the famous traitor voting?! \s

I dont know anybody by the name of "Seth". Sounds like a snakes name

btw pluja is the owner of kycnot.me

i feel left out, maybe we should all open our own clones of the same website

plowsof11: Sus /s

<ofrnxmr[m]> "Voting on Seth?" <- Banned word :/

Should have banhammer autokick anyone that says that s***

Dns-blacklist s***

<TheDisruptiveCol> "i feel left out, maybe we should..." <- monerosupplies.com/crypto-exchange

😄

I may be a bit out of the loop, can I read up something somehwere about the recent MajesticBank websites downtime? A post mortem maybe? Some background info?

There is none

(that I'm aware of)

Hmm, alright. Seems that MajesticBank is active here right now, maybe they feel like commenting?

Gl

Gl

on a scale of 1 to 10, how bad would it be to have the blockchain stored on a Hard Disk instead of an SSD?

also I now get this, any ideas?

It's bad to sync, but it's ok to keep it running after it synced

yeah I synced it on an SSD then moved it to a HD

It's good enough to use with your wallet (sending/receiving transactions), but not good enough for mining

got it, but now I'm it's refusing to start, any idea why, check pastebin ^

Oh, I got it recently too

nvm got it working, my VPN was blocking the DNS

it's because you added some priority nodes which couldn't resolve

for me it was majestibank's nodes

Can someone explain the reason for meme coins such as wownero

Because it's funny

I get it but why make a cryptocurrency rather than doing monero memes

Monero berry serious

Historically, wownero was created as the shitcoin exterminator

There were like 200 cryptonote shitcoins with premines and scam mechanics, one of such shitcoins was MoneroV, a fork with 1:10 limited supply

Wownero forked MoneroV from genesis without the premine and scam mechanics and has since exterminated every shitcoin

And it's fun!

A bit of history: bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2947912.0

can wownero be used in a fun way or is it just the meme because of the coin 

iirc yo could use wownero to bet on a which snail would win a race

Darknet snail racing

* snail racing (very illegal)

ohh ok so its some cheap ass coin that is basically garbage and u can talk shit about it since its worth nothing

kinda like rich people giving people pennies

For free

Ser it's a meme tipping coin, we haven't seen hyperwowneroization yet

Earning internet currency for memes is glorious

Oh and did I mention, it's absolutely anti mining pool

so its like giving a cheap tip that looks like a lot but also is a funny coin to use

Because its cheap and has memes

We're getting our own world order soon

Just you see!!!

is it kind of like how reddit has awards

and they're internet points?

R*ddit

oh sorry

I was trying to make a comparison

can you buy acid with reddit points

possibly but not anonymously

Wownero is le anonymous with 22 rings (higher than Montero)

yea Montero 

Side topic: Zcash telegram has so much seethe, it's quite disheartening

Literally everyone's complaining about ZEC foundation and the funding money being wasted

Thank fuck we don't have any dev tax

Lol

I dont know much about zcash

They have a 8% (formerly 20%) tax built into their mining rewards

Basically a transparent premine

oh yea they got to pay their centralized team

Isn't it still 20%, just distributed differently? We should factcheck

20% for founders was for 4 years

it's still 20% but only 8% goes to devs

Everything else is for ECC's pockets

"Taking effect in November [2020] during the coin’s halving, as per community polls, the new mining reward distribution will be as follows: 80% for miners, 7% for the Electric Coin Company, 5% for the Zcash Foundation and 8% for grants."

What's the best fiat on-ramp to Monero in Australia?

I have a customer from Australia but he can't get any monero lol

Localmonero sellers apparently don't answer at all

GorillaQuest[m]: wownero was created to take the steam out of a scam for, there were a few happening around that time

it somehow became a thing that people cared about

for=fork

monero fork

cockliuser: monero.stackexchange.com/questions/…on-ramps-and-off-ramps-in-australia

cockliuser: coinatmradar.com/country/13/bitcoin-atm-australia

He did go to a ATM, it was busted 😵‍💫

Australia moment

hehe

+1 for Adelaide, already immensely cool, improved even by a broken XMR ATM

if it wasn't obvious before, this should make clear that cake is trying to capitalize on the monero name and try to trick newcomers that they are somehow "offcial"

s/offcial/official/

how long will the community placate cake and tolerate their shady tactics?

wow someone else actually cares?

dont give up

There tactics is approved by the Monero comity

Someone donated to Monero so we can buy monero.com domain, fund where transferred to GF.

> <@gfdshygti53:monero.social> There tactics is approved by the Monero comity

> Someone donated to Monero so we can buy monero.com domain, fund where transferred to GF.

go fuck yourself

endogenic: its a silent majority. cake is the joke of the privacy-loving part of the monero community, the only reason they are accepted is bc of their constant bribes (aka "sponsorships")

thank you for saying so

i'm glad there is at least one person of functioning conscience and hope left here

remember moneo

monero

they are affectionaly known to us a Cuck Wallet

lol

facts

.bbl

s/a/as/

Argument was the getmonero was the choosen domain and a proper domain. Well, First time I got into monero, I got to check and do more research, was thinking.. what is that getmonero.org site and there is a monero.com site too. Is getmonero some kind of fake site or something? Doing research is good. But We really have a monero.com site that offer wallet and a getmonero site that offer wallet.

plowsof: ofrnxmr and anyone else

enough is enough

At least monero.com have a link to getmonero on top of the page, now

Looks official

I mean, looks like this is an actual cake channel. I dont kniw the host

RavFX: only after the community had issue with it, and they give a small link as concession. dont be fooled, they are playing the same tactics here. if you cant see it you are blind

Lol it does say "Monero" as the channel name 🤦‍♂️

Oldest vid like 10 days

So not an old mistake

Why Monero did not buy monero.com after receiving a donation specificaly to buy monero.com?

fucking pathetic. no one reads the "by CuckLabs" and they know it

fuck this sleazy ass project

tracking users IPs without consent

they did not obtain this position in monero without help from others

They could have brought it and redirected to getmonero.org if they really want getmonero.org as the main domain, it would just prevent more leaching

it would not have been possible

if monero's integrity were not otherwise compromised

endogenic: they paid their way in. its obvious to anyone

"sponsorships"

that's not the only thing

be alert

(Someone going to ping them?)

i am. i know Cuck is an enemy

i know you are

so does the rest of the hardcore privacy part of the xmr community

i'm saying it's bigger than even that

i appreciate that

thanks for being there

endogenic: besides SGP i dont know how deep it runs

good

keep lookint

g

consider the cia playbook of activist disruption

but all i know is i dont like it. and monero users are getting fed up with them

who has been disrupted here

and how do they do it?

oh yeah. totally see it

step 1: gain apparent legitimacy

Cuck glows hard as fuck

step 2: disrupt activists

you literally have to be blind to not see it

indeed

we are blind

I don't use anything cucklabs anyway

But I still find it annoying when I recommend monero to friends and when they finally try it they endup with cakewallet and ask me where is the desktop version of the monero wallet

Because they don't read the small banner at the top of the site 😂

fool me once, shame on me

As long as they own monero.com, they can call themself "Monero"

fool me twice, shame on you

something needs to be done here

one plane is an accident, two planes are an attack

Jesus, calm down people. It's Monero because YouTube isn't letting us call it "Monero.com" right now, and we're in touch with their support to fix this

RavFX[m]: no one does. and they know damn well that no one does

thats not the fucking reason

"its google fault"

fuck you

youtube forced you to type in "Monero" as the name of your channel?

get fucked you compliant piece of shit

why would we not use the Monero logo if we wanted to impersonate "Monero" in its entirely? Get a brain, jesus

shut the fuck up

you literally used the name

you know damn well what youre doing

and so does everyone else

Go back to your wallet that leaks all IP data <3

i dont use Cuck

I'm tired of people pretending everything we do is a scandal

thanks tho

Are you accusing featherwallet and the official monero wallet leak all IP data?

r4v3r23[m]: stay salty

* monero wallet "leak all, * IP data"?

RavFX[m]: I'm accusing their Anonero wallet

no, hes just deflecting

Cuck literally pings their servers with your IP

because it does

and you couldnt opt out until very recenty

sgp[m]: Good luck with that 😂

and its still default

classic tactic, accuse the other side of what you are guilty of

and i dont know how you leak IP using an onion node

Feather is nice. Monejuro too, they support onion very well

must be nice sitting on loads of users IPs

lets just pretend Cuck isnt the biggest honeypot in this space

I'm back to building a new release for you all to enjoy, and please DON'T use our nodes to save us a lot of money each month, thanks

sgp[m]: im tired of seeing it. i dont use cake. but its been pretty cool to see an easy way to use monero.

How using you're nodes save me money?

save them money

Yeah, save us on the bandwidth bill

:)

less usage and requirement to run big machines to serve wallet traffic

don't think monerujo calls home. nodes come stock w/ app. feather does communicate to websocket server run by tobtoht and dsc_, but default routes over tor

oups, missread lol. I do use my own anyway lol

monerod is so well optimized it can be run on a terrible CPU, that is great. Bandwidth is the real cost

> defaults to collecting IP on their own servers

Websocket is enabled by default on feather too

> tells users to not connect to their node as if its their problem

you cant make this shit up

important to keep in mind Cake Labs is first and foremost a for-prodit enterprise

s/prodit/profit/

absolutely

Yeah, Just running a node I get like 8TB for 2 week (the last time I resetted the BW counter and checked)

this whole monero dot com is purely to capitalize on monero's rep and name

to profit

im sure they use some of the profit to help montero

aka bribes

monero.com is a good way to redirect new use to cake yeah...

would be good to prioritize open source, community efforts like official monero gui and cli, feather, monerujo in public places

absoltely

instead, they try to attack grassroots cypherpunk projects

agree w/ above discourse, would encourage more civility, less name calling, detracts from your argument regardless of how solid it is

Wownero HF tomorrow 🥳

<sgp[m]> "I'm accusing their Anonero..." <- 👆️

Raver, is the proxy all good now?

i wonder what would happen if cake bought monero.org. world war 3?

ofrnxmr: can you clarify what data Cuck was collecting up until very recently?

and how long it took to do anythign about it, and what current behavoiour is?

Cake never has collected anything

ofrnxmr[m]: onion nodes encouraged in app. clearnet node proxy connection will be fixed soon

Cant say collecting, but had access to basic data like IP, time connection was made, perhaps the fiat exchange pair

sgp[m]: go back to "building" please

But, I do appreciate the onion features for exchanges and fiat rates now.

Also, cakepay is a different beast in regards to what is collected etc

But cakepay connections are manual

lza_menace: it would be great if more people actually spoke up

lounge.lzahq.tech/uploads/216eb6ca05216af9/image.png

who are reddit mods these days?

monerobull:

needmoney90, sgp, some core team?

its hidden?

since when

:shrug:

Monerobull is your guy lza_menace @lza_menace:libera.chat:

there is certainly more than mb

I mean, who can answer :P

most of them are literally never doing anything

needmoney and dEBRUYNE mvps

monerobull can :D

Oh, its hidden because that traitor s*** name is there

i trust most on that list

forthelulz i thought was seth alt?

yes

anywho - i ask to make sure the mods were impartial. i recall sgp being one who i know works for cake now. good to see neutral names and trusted community peeps

seems like the subreddit is one of the central places of info

Its mostly bull and needmoney doing most of the mod work

cursory glance seems like cake is all over the sub, very active and promoting events, apps, work, etc

definitely have tentacles all over

"tentacles"? when ordinary humans post in a lot of places do we also have "tentacles"?

they havent come to monero.house yet 😢

only if you come representing a for-profit enterprise i guess

its known that cuck has a hold on the mainstream community (reddit, twitter, monerotopia) etc. thats why there are so many alternative XMR communities, they hate cuck and see it as an attack on monero

but its still a shame that they can continue roping in new users in such a sleazy way

and i find it strange that in private so many people will express their annoyances, but in public spaces they tip toe around the issue

<lza_menace> "definitely have tentacles all..." <- there are other subreddits for that

lmao

Ah cool, when I type "Monero" on google I don't see monero.com, at least, not in the 3 first pages, and getmonero is the first result. Don't know if it's a fluke

r34?

Well for a decade or more peoples' blogs, Tweets, and Stackoverflow posts have referenced getmonero.org

so that's pretty authoritative

* Well for a decade-ish peoples' blogs, Tweets, and Stackoverflow posts have referenced getmonero.org

sgp[m]: finally got around to removing regional cake nodes on monero.fail - just have the dns round robin one

lza_menace: thanks :) Those regional IPs pointed to our main IP anyway

:thumbsup:

lza_menace: You do monero.fail? THANK YOU!!

yee

been out for a bit doing shitcoin things, but focusing more efforts on monero again. more of a hobbyist capacity though.

might bring back moneropunks

Channel name is now MoneroCom

reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/11fslu…fund_transparency_report_march_2023 ""Last October we received a massive (2500 XMR) donation, and the donor expressed the intent of purchasing the domain Monero.com. After discussions with the current owner of that domain, we did not come to an agreement. If the person who donated 2500 XMR were to reach out to me, I am willing to refund this donation to them," continued

I tought cakelabs was willing to sell monero.com to monero at cost

yeah. But 400k is still a lot of money for a domain

especially because it is a significant portion of the gf

did 2500XMR did cover the 400k at the time of the donation?

RavFX: That was their statement, yes.

lza_menace, i cleaned up the node.moneroworld dns entry. did you have a node on there? i had to remove 2 of them

not sure. i mainly run seed node singapore.node.xmr.pm (51.79.173.165)

has testnet + stagenet, plus hidden services for all networks

i only have hidden services for mainnet :(

RavFX: it did afaik

ignore, i do , i was thinking about I2p public rpc

<RavFX> "did 2500XMR did cover the 400k..." <- it was essentially "here, buy the domain"

" After discussions with the current owner of that domain, we did not come to an agreement."

plowsof: what was the problem? didnt vik agree to sell it for same price?

Need to ask bF what happened

I think it was mentioned in the transparency report

damn my blocker script has 434 blocked ips

Whatcha blocking?

anything that tries to make more than 10 RPC connections

per IP

Ah.

but somehow 0.0.0.0 got added to it... jeebus

If you're using netstat to find them, might be the listening socket or something silly.

yo snipa - how r u?

Fine, i start my new job next week, so looking forwards to that.

Need to go do some script updates to the nodejs-pool codebase this weekend before that kicks off.

:pray:

Got everything together it needs for a 22.04 deployment, so those poor old ubuntu pools can update.

Hi everybody, who know how i can reset my peerlist ?

Because i want to use I2P but my node keeps trying to do p2p connections with clearnet nodes

What flags are you currently using

--tx-proxy --anonymous-inbound and --add-peer

Though I was thinking youd have to `--proxy=127.0.0.1:8061` in addition to jozse commentf: comment

No i put i2p,127.0.0.1:xxxx

you can't run your node fully over i2p

you can send transactions over i2p with --tx-proxy, but it will still make p2p connections to clearnet nodes

<Bon 💗> For real is there anyway to avoid this from happening

Sad i tought it was possible

you can run your full node over tor since they have exit nodes

--proxy and --tx-proxy are different commands

selsta: I THINK (im not I2p guy though ) that I2p outproxy works like exit nodes. I really dont know though

i never tried it myself

> " After discussions with the current owner of that domain, we did not come to an agreement."

This is the type of thing that makes Cake seem disingenuous. "We'll sell the monero site for cost if you come up with the money. (but you won't of course)" -- comes up with money -- "Welllll we didn't really mean it because having monero gives us a massive advantage over competitors that's worth far more than the price we paid for it." And obviously the "massive advantage" it provides is the ability to effectively impersonate an

official monero project and associate cake with being THE monero project. I think the products provided by Cake are GREAT --- today. Who knows what will happen tomorrow.

To be clear, Cake seems like a great product and I personally use it and recommend it -- today. Just don't act all innocent like omg who could possibly think we'll do some nefarious shit in the future. You're a for profit company that has an entrenched hold on the monero community if only because of the monero site and for profit companies do bad shit all the time.

Personally, if I, in good faith, said I would sell, and then was attacked with fud and people wanted me to sell so they could run me out of the community, I wouldnt sell either

I agreed to sell in good faith. Not because people with pitchforks think I have to. I can literally do whatever I want. I, personally, would still sell. But not under the situation that "fuck ofrnxmr, lets buy him out"

Which ultimately leads to hostility.

If I DO sell, I also have far more money and power than you. Who's to say I dont say "fuck you" right back?

Cake has put themselves in the position of using Monero's name as their own.

They can expect criticism as long as that continues. The same would be true for any other crypto company.

At least they didnt launch a coin called "monero cash" and called it the real monero

(Reference to bitcoin / bitcoin cash)

His about 0xMonero?

> <@spackle_xmr:matrix.org> Cake has put themselves in the position of using Monero's name as their own.

> They can expect criticism as long as that continues. The same would be true for any other crypto company.

100%

How*

the "we HAD to use Monero for our channel name because YOUTUBE wouldnt let use add .com to our name" type of excuses are pathetic

My only point is that people seem to think cake is going full throttle being malicious

I giggle at that. Thats as far of as thinking mordinals spam is actually putting effort in

They're a for profit company going full throttle to be profitable.

If mordinals wanted to, they could clog the blockchain for weeks

"Im looking at bitcoin, but with dynamic blocks and larger tx"

anonimauzanto[m]: Far from it

Full throttle that is

Maybe yes, maybe no. I'm sure they could do things that would make them more profitable --in the short term-- but who knows long term. From my viewpoint they definitely seem to be doing everything they can to make themselves as profitable as possible over the long term.

Still in 2nd gear

<salami donators!> Ofrn

<salami donators!> Some dude keeps shillling his cringe coin

anonimauzanto[m]: capitalizing on the monero project's name/rep

Salami, who what where when?

I dont see it

monerobull: you have discord ops?

> the "we HAD to use Monero for our channel name because YOUTUBE wouldnt let use add .com to our name" type of excuses are pathetic

I haven't followed the conversation but the main company is Cake (cake labs or something?) so why didn't they use Cake (Cake Labs) as their channel? That seems the most appropriate.

according to SGP, its because YouTube forced them to

* them to use "Monero" as their channel name

You can calm down, it's MoneroCom now

We have a separate Cake Wallet channel

sgp[m]: of course, after you get called out

easy mistake to make, im sure

and no, I never remotely suggested that YouTube forced us to use Monero. I said we couldn't use Monero.com

so the natural option is to just use Monero

jfc

Apparently we're supposed to just be penalized for eternity for this "scandal" of epic proportions. Seems fair

keep acting shady, keep getting called out

quite simple actually

This was fixed hours ago, find some other thing to talk about. You were here.

shouldnt have happened at all

which you know is the point

It's easy to armchair judge people who are actually putting in effort

Why bother creating a new channel though if you already have Cake?

cry about it

Because this Monero.com channel will just be for Monero-related content

Cake Wallet will be for other content including Bitcoin, etc

Calling a YouTube account named "Monero" is misleading and definitely shouldn't be done. However this was fixed. Where is the problem now?

Makes sense

So now you have a dedicated, Monero-focused, pro-Monero channel

xfedex[m]: its a pattern that keeps happening

sgp[m]: "pro Monero" is debatable

Bittrex shutting down

This might be a horrible idea but what about putting something like "MoneroCom (for-profit)" or at least something to indicate that the channel content is produced by a for profit company?

For all USA customers

it's literally dot COM :)

r4v3r23[m]: Unless they infringe law, there's nothing we can do about that. Crying about it isn't really a solution.

After all, Cake is a for-profit company, and it's acting like any for-profit company.

If you don't like Cake (which is understandable) then there are many alternatives (Stack Wallet, Elite Wallet...)

Bittrex, didn't they delist all privacy coins and then later relisted all of them apart from monero? lol

COM is so pervasive that it doesn't mean much anymore. This isn't 1995

Monejuro

selsta: something like that yeah

Is monerujo still mantained?

> <@xfedex:matrix.org> Unless they infringe law, there's nothing we can do about that. Crying about it isn't really a solution.

> After all, Cake is a for-profit company, and it's acting like any for-profit company.

> If you don't like Cake (which is understandable) then there are many alternatives (Stack Wallet, Elite Wallet...)

are you appealing to law?

they got hit with a bunch of AML/sanctions-related fines

so what is law = right?

@xfedex[m]: yes

Anyways, thanks for putting real money behind advertising monero and getting more people to see it.

anonimauzanto[m]: Thank you, we're trying

<bigslim[m]> "For all USA customers" <- just got the email

<r4v3r23[m]> ""pro Monero" is debatable" <- Debatable? We are always doing stuff for Monero.

<ofrnxmr[m]> "monerobull: you have discord..." <- Yeah why

I'm not reading all the crap that was posted in here, give tldr

Salami on discord

Says there is a spammer

In xmr room

<monerobull> first glance, cant see anything alarming

⏰

<xfedex[m]> "Is monerujo still mantained?" <- Yes 😶‍🌫️

<salami donators!> It's some japanese kid in offtopic

<salami donators!> Keeps shilling his bad coin and calling me and cockliuser r*tards

<salami donators!> Some coin named litecash

<salami donators!> He's been doing it for like a month

Ah, I got a ping about the moderation on the subreddit. I go through bursts of activity personally, my focus is more on the automation and work reduction side of things. Automod configuration, anti-spam filters, etc. In recent times it was mostly anti-spam, we had a period of time with (extremely) heavy bot activity and I was playing catchup.

deb is the most consistent moderator of the group over a long period of time

we added mb to the team during the deluge

thankfully I managed to work some dark magic with automod that has mostly stymied the issue (but as always with filters, the caveat is false positives lumped in with the true positives)

.tell

lza_menace: Your default coin is now set to XMR. Change with coins command.

lza_menace: I sent you more info va PM

wut

.tell e-mess hey man, hope all is well

lza_menace: ERROR: User not found

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