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ShaneonConduitrs
> Hello! Welcome to NOWPayments support. If I understand you correctly, our merchants can accept payments in crypto and withdraw payouts in fiat starting from just €15 (SEPA) via our provider Switchere.... (full message at <
libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/do…2c193f096b84c0941255ffb5e42407a4f1f>)
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ShaneonConduitrs
exchanging 100 EUR worth of BTC to EUR has 20 EUR fee
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ShaneonConduitrs
ehw
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ShaneonConduitrs
oh that's for buying
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ShaneonConduitrs
selling BTC for EUR is 96.96 EUR
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ShaneonConduitrs
oke
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DanIsnotthemanBr
Yeah i wouldn’t be using btc now.
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ShaneonConduitrs
also yes
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ShaneonConduitrs
but is there an alternative to switchere that accepts XMR
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ShaneonConduitrs
like a thing that can be automated to exchange crypto to FIAT from the shop
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ofrnxmr[m]
Siren: Stnby:
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ShaneonConduitrs
the idea is so that the website owner could just set that they want e.g. 300 EUR in crypto and everything else to be exchanged in FIAT
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ShaneonConduitrs
before they evolve as a human to go full crypto~
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Stnby[m]
<ShaneonConduitrs> "before they evolve as a human to..." <- NowPayments is one of the solutions. We used it to implement the plugin for pretix for MoneroKon. Another possible solution would be coinpayments.net which also does support XMR and works in a similar way as the previous one. If you want custom plugin/integration or support you can reach us out 😉
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mlcboss[m]
is this bullshit?
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mlcboss[m]
1% of monero address control almost half of 50% of xmr supply
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mlcboss[m]
will monero inflation fixed this?
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sech1
yeah sure, you can check here:
localmonero.co/blocks/richlist
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mlcboss[m]
jesus chatgpt giving wrong information
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ocean[m]
you don't say 😑
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mlcboss[m]
is MimbleWimble private or no?
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mlcboss[m]
MimbleWimble as layer 2 option for xmr cause there is no way the mainnet is used for reward transaction
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sech1
MimbleWimble is not private against active observers with many nodes. Monero doesn't even use MimbleWimble.
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mlcboss[m]
<sech1> "MimbleWimble is not private..." <- how will xmr implement layer 2?
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merope
First you gotta ask: does it even need a layer 2?
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merope
And second, there are already some papers out about L2 payment channels for Monero
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mlcboss[m]
merope: yes it would be cool xmr be used as a reward for decentralized system
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merope
Wat
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mlcboss[m]
merope: decentralized storage , providers will be rewarded with xmr instead of other tokens
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mlcboss[m]
decentralized vpn , providers will be rewarded with xmr instead of other tokens
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mlcboss[m]
advertisements paid in xmr instead of other tokens
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mlcboss[m]
having a layer 2 is make sense for this kind of transaction or it will be a huge bloat for the mainnet
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merope
You don't need a L2 for any of that
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mlcboss[m]
merope: a sidechain maybe works too?
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ofrnxmr[m]
R/eth
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merope
You don't need that either
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merope
I think you need to learn a bit more about Monero's features, purpose, and the principles behind them
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merope
As well as the general crypto terminology
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ofrnxmr[m]
Storafe? R/ipfs
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merope
And PLEASE do NOT use chatgpt
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ofrnxmr[m]
Vpn r/eth
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ofrnxmr[m]
Ads r/eth
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ofrnxmr[m]
Keep that trash off my storage
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merope
It's not an accurate source of information, it's just a text generator
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DanIsnotthemanBr
Tldr?
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merope
DanIsnotthemanBr: Dude doesn't understand some crypto terminology and has been "learning" stuff from chatgpt, so they're trying to slap a L2 on anything
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DanIsnotthemanBr
Oo
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ofrnxmr[m]
"lemme store ads on xmr"
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ofrnxmr[m]
or not
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ofrnxmr[m]
<mlcboss[m]> "decentralized storage , provider..." <- > <@mlcboss:matrix.org> decentralized storage , providers will be rewarded with xmr instead of other tokens... (full message at <
libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/do…7ca7e85a0683f61565f1daabc425986b208>)
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DanIsnotthemanBr
Use tx_extra
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ceetee[m]
have you guys heard about mordinals? I think they would be great to store ads
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merope
ofrnxmr[m]: > <@ofrnxmr:monero.social> "lemme store ads on xmr"
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merope
> or not
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merope
I think they just meant using xmr to pay for it. Which is plenty feasible, but you don't need an entire L2 for it
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DanIsnotthemanBr
It going to be the next big thing!!
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ofrnxmr[m]
Wen brave + cake parnership to do "private ads"
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ofrnxmr[m]
but no. Monero does not need to be a monopoly
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ofrnxmr[m]
Lemme reguster my car, manage my cats microchip, check my emsil, run chatgpt
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ofrnxmr[m]
Lol
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ofrnxmr[m]
No
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mlcboss[m]
merope: yeah i guess your right xmr doesn't need layer 2 similar to btc / eth
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ofrnxmr[m]
Imaging putting all eggs ON one basket
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DanIsnotthemanBr
There is heaps that use xmr for payment
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ofrnxmr[m]
Xmr is money supply... using it to build on --- thats btc
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DanIsnotthemanBr
LNxmr when¿
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ofrnxmr[m]
Thats why btc and eth dont even know what they are anymore
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ofrnxmr[m]
Just gas to fuel the dapps
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DanIsnotthemanBr
ofrnxmr[m]: DigitalgoldlasereyesfckLn
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DanIsnotthemanBr
Pewpew
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ofrnxmr[m]
HFSB
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ofrnxmr[m]
Youre not SUPPOSED to spend btc #2023
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DanIsnotthemanBr
Hold never sodl
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DanIsnotthemanBr
* Hodl never sodl
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ofrnxmr[m]
Diamond hands. This is theHARDEST money (to use)
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merope
DanIsnotthemanBr: Use > hodl
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merope
If money doesn't flow, it's worthless
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ofrnxmr[m]
Eth is like.. if you want that junk, thats how you get eth
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ofrnxmr[m]
merope: Btc? Ya rite
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mlcboss[m]
xmr fees are way cheaper , eth was used for decentralized system before until they realized the fees is too ridiculous
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mlcboss[m]
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merope
No, Monero. We need applications that use xmr for payment
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ofrnxmr[m]
Money flow straight to miners at those rates
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DanIsnotthemanBr
Eth is for monkey pics
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ofrnxmr[m]
Talk about a "tax"
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ofrnxmr[m]
mlcboss[m]: > <@mlcboss:matrix.org> xmr fees are way cheaper , eth was used for decentralized system before until they realized the fees is too ridiculous
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ofrnxmr[m]
>
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ofrnxmr[m]
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ofrnxmr[m]
I wonder why the fees arent conduvtive to using eth as money
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merope
Which does not imply storing code or data on-chain
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ofrnxmr[m]
Oh yeah, its becayse eth use asmoney is not a priorit(i mention movie because the milestones were misleading - youre not paying for what was advertised - just like haveno's.)
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ofrnxmr[m]
Fkn copy paste
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ofrnxmr[m]
At least it wasnt my seed
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DanIsnotthemanBr
Master plowsof is xmr sdk ready for big brains to look at?
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ofrnxmr[m]
* Oh yeah, its because eth n btc use as money is not a priority that tx fees are allowed to creep to enterpruse leveks
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ofrnxmr[m]
Xnr fees are cheap because there arent 500 shitscamthings using our blockchain
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DanIsnotthemanBr
Xmrc-20
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ShaneonConduitrs
<ofrnxmr[m]> "Youre not SUPPOSED to spend btc..." <- that's the worst advice i ever saw.. #murderBTC
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ShaneonConduitrs
sears that thing
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susman1[m]
i've asked this before but how risky is it to have a very small monero saving acct?
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susman1[m]
bascially I am concerned with how volatile XMR is or isn't
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ofrnxmr[m]
Hi. My name is "chart"
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ofrnxmr[m]
xmr has been a as good or better SOV than btc since it was listed
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ofrnxmr[m]
Also. Again, this isnt r/eth/notmoney
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ofrnxmr[m]
Monero gets treated like money
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ofrnxmr[m]
If you arent holding some, just what are you doing?
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susman1[m]
<ofrnxmr[m]> "Xnr fees are cheap because there..." <- the fees will rise and become unsustainable no?
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ofrnxmr[m]
do you just stay broke 24/7 and only hold bananas?
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ofrnxmr[m]
Sell some bananas when you need usd?
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ofrnxmr[m]
No. You hold money
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ofrnxmr[m]
susman1[m]: No
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ofrnxmr[m]
thats r/btc
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ofrnxmr[m]
Monero fees ramp up from 0.5c > 2c when blocks need to grow
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ofrnxmr[m]
Aftrr they grow, fees come back down
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ofrnxmr[m]
This isnt "bid to kick people out of the mempool"
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ofrnxmr[m]
Or "pay to cut in line"
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DanIsnotthemanBr
Capitalist mempool
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ofrnxmr[m]
Its "pay for another cashier to open a second til to more people"
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ofrnxmr[m]
"if the lines stay long, the second cashier will be a permant role and peopke dont need to pay extra anymore. Add a third too if necessary"
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susman1[m]
Dan (Is not the man & Braxman Tomsparks Advocate): isn't crypto capitalist in nature?
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ofrnxmr[m]
No
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ofrnxmr[m]
Most crypto is just scammy
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ofrnxmr[m]
How many gpu mining software are foss?
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ofrnxmr[m]
Bunch joke projects and windows users getting taken for a dogwalk
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ofrnxmr[m]
btc isnt capitalist, its almostt like bank run rugrpull
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susman1[m]
well it is currency
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ofrnxmr[m]
Xmr is
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ofrnxmr[m]
Btc isnt
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ofrnxmr[m]
Lol
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susman1[m]
monero would be capitalist too tho as it is a currency
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ofrnxmr[m]
Btc folks cant even tell you what btc is aside from a dream
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ofrnxmr[m]
susman1[m]: No
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ofrnxmr[m]
Monero is freedom money
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ofrnxmr[m]
Its whatever you want it to be
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susman1[m]
it is libertarian
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susman1[m]
which is kinda needed for capitalism
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ofrnxmr[m]
monero aka money doesnt have politics.
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ofrnxmr[m]
its just a MOE
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ofrnxmr[m]
is a communist country wanted to use xmr, they could
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ofrnxmr[m]
If socialist wantd to, they can
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ofrnxmr[m]
Monero is just money. And can be used or controlled however someone wants
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ofrnxmr[m]
Example bbeing "btc in elsalvador"
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ceetee[m]
susman1[m]: currencies have existed pong before the concept of capitalism and communism. dont mix up the details
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ofrnxmr[m]
Which is just what, custodial ln? strike?
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ceetee[m]
* currencies have existed long before the concept of capitalism and communism. dont mix up the details
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DanIsnotthemanBr
I think michael saylor doesn’t have control of his coins. I think its in custodial cold wallet
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ofrnxmr[m]
Maxis preaching "use custodial ln" = layers allow centralization of base layer assets
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ofrnxmr[m]
Base layer assets = the actual xmr, btc etc
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ceetee[m]
Maxis also say dont spend your BTC, but rather use it as a collateral for a loan, which implies custodial wallet
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DanIsnotthemanBr
Fix your e2ee k thanks bye
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DanIsnotthemanBr
ofrnxmr:
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ofrnxmr[m]
its not mine
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ofrnxmr[m]
Says your client isnt sending the keys
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DanIsnotthemanBr
High security
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DanIsnotthemanBr
Use my view key
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ofrnxmr[m]
Im going to send a verification request
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ofrnxmr[m]
accept and hopefuly that works
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DanIsnotthemanBr
Go offtopic
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DanIsnotthemanBr
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DanIsnotthemanBr
Samurai watch out
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DanIsnotthemanBr
Also nodo means something else here
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jamss[m]
<DanIsnotthemanBr> "
moneronodo.com..." <- > <@123bob123:matrix.org>
moneronodo.com
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jamss[m]
>
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jamss[m]
> Samurai watch out
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jamss[m]
Your project?
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k4r4b3y[m]1
<DanIsnotthemanBr> "
moneronodo.com..." <- > <@123bob123:matrix.org>
moneronodo.com
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k4r4b3y[m]1
>
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k4r4b3y[m]1
> Samurai watch out
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k4r4b3y[m]1
Not tor browser friendly
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DanIsnotthemanBr
<jamss[m]> "> <@123bob123:matrix.org>
https:..." <- Neg
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DanIsnotthemanBr
Saw in monerotopia room
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bridgerton[m]
<Nitro> Who is the guy in your pfp? He kinda weirds me out for some reason
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DanIsnotthemanBr
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ofrnxmr[m]
Its me