hello friends! for the longest time i've been using the transfer command by "transfer <address> <amount>" and nothing else, how do I specify the indexes in my addressbook and priorities in a proper syntax through the monero-wallet-cli? thanks!

Type the command “help transfer”

right right, it shows how to do it but im very dumb. would it be 'transfer index=2 priority=2 <amount>'? how to specify is messing me up, if you could show me an example that would be cool

like for example 'transfer 3 2 0.01' tells me "Error: ring size 3 is too small, minimum is 16". im clearly messing something up, i dont know how it knows what parameters I mean, does this imply I have to fill every paremeter and cannot omit?

again sorry to pollute with nooby questions

in my intention: 3 being the index, 2 being the priority and 0.01 being the amount.

What is the name of 2?

Priority 2*

ofrnxmr[m]: normal I believe

<aberration> "right right, it shows how to..." <- Yeah, you have to put the argument name plus equals sign before the argument, so if you wanna pass index of 2, you type “index=2”

And the order sometimes matters so just do it in the order that you see on the help screen

And prioritt is

unimportant, normal, elevated, priority

priority=elevated

* priority=elevated

nvm

just

`elevated`

jeffro256[m]: it seems like that works I think, it's moving on to a different error message so I assume so xD. when I do 'transfer index=2 normal 16 0.005' (16 being rings, 0.005 being amount), now it says 'Invalid last argument: 0.005' v-v

Which get you into the following blocks, respectively: the next one, the next one, the next one, and the next one

Something like

transfer index=2 elevated address

* elevated address amount

aberration: You need an address

Gotchayeah that's what I would assume mylsef, I guess I got confused being im used to commandline args being able to be omitted just as one would if they had simple done 'transfer <address> <amount>'

jeffro256[m]: wouldn't the index=2 be the address from my address_book?

Address comes before amount

Everything else before address

The TO address

ahh shoot I guess I misunderstood, I had assumed the index was referring to an address in my address_book, I guess I have to write the literal address anyway then

* You need a TO address

okay okay that makes sense then

Index is referring to where to pull the funds from

No the index allows you to specify which sub addresses fund the transaction from

oh im so duimb

I need to read, yeah that makes sense. thanks for your help guys

`help <command>`

ofrnxmr[m]: I will try to experiment more next time :'D, I guess when it comes to something with money involved I don't let myself do so unlike other software

Of course

hi

I have questions about monero and crypto

I don't know who to ask

i know monero is never tainted due to analysis, but other cryptos are. does that mean if I buy another crypto from a decentralized exchange without kyc it is likely tainted and could blacklist me at an exchange?

i know monero isn't ever taintable because the blockchain is not tracable.

traceable.

does that mean if i buy bitcoins on P2P they are likely tainted?

sorry if this is a stupid question

I am trying to learn about bisq

i am using tainted as a word for blacklisted

i don't really believe crypto should be tainted somehow

ok i guess bad question, no answer by anyone

<psgr7791[m]> "does that mean if i buy bitcoins..." <- This is a risk. I don't know how big of a risk it is though. There might be ways to risk assess Bitcoin UTXO's via websites or services that are publicly accessible though.

ok

<psgr7791[m]> "I am trying to learn about bisq" <- buying bitcoin with digital national currency is a bad idea. not only because you cant trust the bitcoin will get you in trouble or confiscated but what if the bank account is hacked or from shady charcter. make sure you have accounts with a couple banks in case you lose access to one when being investigated or close it on you.

Chan

<psgr7791[m]> "does that mean if i buy bitcoins..." <- chainalysis.com/chainalysis-kyt

There are different levels of taint.

Virgin freshly mined bitcoins are seen as best.

Buy Monero p2p then use an exchange to get it turned to bitcoin

Bitcoins from hacks are seen as worst.

There are places that will swap one crypto for another for low fees, if you’re worried about tainted coin just get it like that

bike: can I chat with you privately?

bike: I need advice and don't know what to do

bike[m]: Which exchange do you suggest?

psgr7791 dm me

There’s this one I know is good for using, I’m gonna look for the name and get back to you

bike: ok dmed u just reply when u can

iirc changenow.io is a pretty good one

If u want to use another one check reviews first because some like to scam more often than others

Bisq trading itself leaves a trace on the block chain, however depending on the source of the BTC the taint lower or higher.

Bisq leaves a trace?

What exactly is “Bisq” if I may ask

psgr7791[m]: Yes, the fees go to Bisq DAO, time lock, safety deposit.

I made a video about it, but in German

But since I show the memepool space explorer you could get the rough picture

How to check the origin of Bisq BTC

<bike[m]> "What exactly is “Bisq” if I..." <- Bisq is the biggest P2P bitcoin exchange.

You don't need hosting like localbitcoin

Every participant runs a software

I run Bisq in a Whonix virtual machine on the operating system Qubes.

Since Bisq software runs P2P less risk of shut down

You can also trade BTC XMR on Bisq

You can't buy XMR vs fiat

Monero community wanted to replicate Bisq

To allow for P2P XMR fiat exchanges

This would have been an improvement over localmonero, which relies on centralised servers.

how can I get Transacation Key in cake wallet I can only find Tx HASH

deflation.earwig: Haveno (Bisq but with Monero as base currency) has a test network now: reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/13ot1f…network_is_now_live_with_installers

Capybara[m]: > <@capybara:projectsegfau.lt>

> how can I get Transacation Key in cake wallet I can only find Tx HASH

can anyone help?

Rucknium[m]: So happy to hear, great news

I worried havenos run out of money for developers

#haveno:haveno.network and #haveno-dev:haveno.network for updates

<bike[m]> "iirc changenow.io is a pretty..." <- What would you guys do with tainted BTC bought P2P?

surrender it to the government :P

they're going to seize it anyway

Change into monero would be one option.

or wash through samourai

deflationearwig[: the place where you do it is still a chokepoint, they could freeze your funds

deflationearwig[: Nothing. I don't touch BTC anymore, fix all issue.

Payment option in trocador work just fine if you really need to use BTC for some reason

Coin join origin will be better than scam or hack origin, however Chain analysis won't like coin joins either.

yeah best you can do is make it less tainted

Some places already confiscate coinjointed coin (or they bark to you and ask for ID p0rn)

maybe buy into one of those brc-20 tokens

"officer I was just buying the next pepe"

For now you can add some extra hoops, I headed since exchanges only check a couple of hops back.

Coin join works, if it will become market standard in the future, but privacy is a minority position in the BTC community

<Capybara[m]> "> <@capybara:projectsegfau.lt>..." <- any?

94% of BCH is "tainted" by "coinjoins" cashfusion so its less sus rucknium.me/posts/cashfusion-descendants , now how do i make this BCH shill on-topic , erm, let me try - so stack wallet (a monero wallet, has a fundraiser to add cashfusion to its bch wallet) - am i forgiven?

Capybara: Contact Cake support: reddit.com/r/cakewallet/comments/wv…t_post_here_for_support_please_read

<plowsof11> "94% of BCH is "tainted" by "..." <- Interesting article.

I guess the will make a cut of point for tainted and the raise it over time to slowly boil the frog.

A transaction passing through a big regulated exchange of through government is defined as good again.

Some sad news today: cakelabs.com/news/shutting-down-cake-pay-web

I confirm, using the old deprecated payment rails is annoying as fsck (except if it's cash, that is fine)

<deflationearwig[> "Interesting article." <- Thanks ;)

<uiiiiiiiiiiiiiii> "Can I get the app or is it a..." <- getmonero.org

<uiiiiiiiiiiiiiii> "I need to use Algo on coinbase..." <- trocador.app

uiiiiiiiiiiiiiii: keep you're Monero out of centralized exchange

How do I get a monero address?

uiiiiiiiiiiiiiii: Go to the bank

get monero wallet if win monero gui

<uiiiiiiiiiiiiiii> "How do I get a monero address?" <- getmonero.org

How? I install the app? Monero.com or monerujo? Does this work?

oh someone linked above

In monero everything works u just need to learn how

Cool thanks

<uiiiiiiiiiiiiiii> "Can I get the app or is it a..." <- Wallet apps communicate with the network and tell it the stuff you want to do, and the network tells your app what it can do based on state

Have fun with your new financial freedom

who is creator of monero

CryptoNote

<uiiiiiiiiiiiiiii> "How? I install the app? Monero...." <- If you want monerujo f-droid.monerujo.io

Using github.com/Iamlooker/Droid-ify or github.com/NeoApplications/Neo-Store

idkrn[m], where you wanna install

What

you wanna install monero on android?

I already have

I got uphold but it doesn't let me exchange Algo into xmr again so don't know why I follow it up

Is trocador going to send it over

?

uphold is custodial right, it's a website?!

use a real wallet

?

then yes, use trocador to swap from algo to xmr

What is a real wallet?

any of the one listed at getmonero.org

an application you install on the PC or phone

You don't own anything if it's a "website wallet"

that's not true

cryptogrampy[m]: It's easier to rug a website or put it behind a KYC wall than rugging you're coin when you own the key

plus uphold do require KYC from what I understand

Why it was #1 in the site CRYPTO linked, I don't know.

But I would not touch to that even with a 1 parsec stick

If you use a PC, get getmonero.org official wallet (official monero wallet)

Or get featherwallet if you like more power user features (that you probably don't need)

I am using an android and for all app wallets seam not legit according to u

if you have a phone, go for Monejuro, cake wallet, or stack wallet

How the link or the app none seam to work

Can I just keep it where it is and use uphold

I already have it there

If I keep doing this I lose money

You can continue to use uphold but keep in mind that you technically don't own you're coin as you don't own the keys

Strange to me but okat

Site could go offline tomorrow morning and good luck getting you're coins.

Really so didn't cake wallet was down for some reason, also?

I can't find the app

non, cake wallet is not down.

And if there node is down you can change the node settings.

Also with cake wallet, you own the keys ( and you create a backup seed phrase).

nothing prevent you from taking that backup seed from cake wallet and import it into featherwallet or stack...

I linked it

cake wallet is in play store

Stack wallet is in play store

monerujo is in play store

Yes I was thinking about before you link it

Now I am going to use it I guess

there is also the monero.com wallet (cake wallet version that only do monero).

while cake wallet also do BTC and a few others I think

It's all confusing and everytimey I switched it it seems to keep losing money

Stack is similar, it can create wallet for a few coins beside monero and they have Stack Duo that only do XMR and BTC

if you withdraw XMR from online services you are likely to pay higher fees compared to using a real monero wallet.

Okay that helps

normal Monero TX fee is less than a cent I think

Monero tx?

Is it a app

when you send monero

monero transaction (tx)

Ok

all monero compatible app will use the default fee afaik

with is really small

as opposite to online exchanges / custodal who will easily charge 10 to 100x more

I still have to use uphold to send it

yeah, because it's in uphold and you don't have the key (that would allow you to import the wallet data to another app)

Right

How do I actually use uphold to send it on trocador to the cake wallet?

you have monero or algo in uphold?

Any idea

Algo

ok, so then :

1 - install a wallet of you're choice on you're phone... (full message at <libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/do…e41ffdf6b06f7da37adb4f94b2ec3a8f65f>)

after that, trocador will tell you where to send your algo, so you go in uphold, you do withdraw

and you withdraw to the address trocador give you

then after a while you will receive the Monero in you're wallet

Cool just checking is not another dead end before I put the plan to action

Revuo Monero Issue 173: May 25 - June 1, 2023. revuo-xmr.com/issue-173.html

I wonder what is the smallest laptop a could get for monero wallet & localmonero usage.

Something that fit in a pocket but is not a cripple device (commonly called phones)

Stnby: 👆️

Tried to login on localmonero 4 time so far, I will have to disable 2FA to be able to login I think

RavFX[m]: > <@gfdshygti53:monero.social> I wonder what is the smallest laptop a could get for monero wallet & localmonero usage.

> Something that fit in a pocket but is not a cripple device (commonly called phones)

steam deck.

or alternatively you could turn a raspberry pi into a computer

bike[m]: not that cheap for the usecase lol

bike[m]: ^^

i've seen/heard of raspberry pi desktops b4

something like this would be awesome

not sure if other manu's make these compute module form factors though

because rpi is terrible

<RavFX[m]> "I wonder what is the smallest..." <- > <@gfdshygti53:monero.social> I wonder what is the smallest laptop a could get for monero wallet & localmonero usage.

> Something that fit in a pocket but is not a cripple device (commonly called phones)

Probably that ^

Stnby[m]: look like what I would need. What is that one?

Stnby[m]: Based and public transit monero node pilled

RavFX[m]: GPD Pocket 3

cryptogrampy[m]: hackaday.com/tag/cyberdeck

Stnby[m]: looks awesome

Pricy, but market for UPMCs is small

imagine popping that in a diy handheld

Also

Siren[m]1: > <@siren:kernal.eu> Also

> clockworkpi.com

> shop.mntre.com/products/mnt-reform

Wow

Stnby[m]: Everyone at digilol.net must have one. One without this aint sysadmin

no aes support on rpi though 🥲

I wonder if clockwork could take a radxa module 🤔

I think it has same specs as Rock 5B

I have one, amazing board

Clockwork look nice assume it can run linux

it's just a rpi wrapper

so it can run armbians and friends

But best of all VisionFive 2 xD

I want this small computer now even though I have no use for it, lol

sgp[m]: Get one so you can throw the big one away :D

this might have better specs than my normal laptop

Replacing the phone with a competent device is a great use for these computers

s/with/for/

sgp[m]: has thunderbolt port you can probably connect a nice GPU to it

Did they ever address the issue with malicious remote nodes?

RavFX[m]: Just like that github.com/zhujunsan/p3-lte

I think i'm going to go for the uConsole A-06 maybe.

Once it's available

Should run the needed things fine

Way cheaper than the GPD Pocket 3 (which is also nice but overkill for what I want it for)

<drewski[m]> "Did they ever address the..." <- Use your own node

<drewski[m]> "Did they ever address the..." <- > <@drewski:matrix.org> Did they ever address the issue with malicious remote nodes?

all they can do is make you pay high-fees to miners.

you can double check the current fee per byte amount on xmrchain.net and compare with what the malicious node reports you

having said that, during my time of monero use, I have never bumped into such a malicious node yet

I just use my own nodes

How bad is it to run a monero node on th clearnet. Can the ebil gobberment see my le hacker money use?

I miss kovri ngl

is the monero.social matrix server working ok? It doesn't seem to send emails even though it says it did.

<uiiiiiiiiiiiiiii> "I am using an android and for..." <- Time for me to shill grapheneos.org

Sus

It's based

Isn't the lead dev stepping down?

jamss[m]: Yes but it's not going to hurt the project

RavFX[m]: ?

I hope not. It's the best rom

idkrn[m]: The main DEV pissed up Louis Rossmann 😂

jamss[m]: It is the best OS 😎

RavFX[m]: ?

But pixels are sus regardless

jamss[m]: False

idkrn[m]: forget it lol

idkrn[m]: >Google hardware isn't sus

I trust GrapheneOS with everything so I will continue to trust them lol

jamss[m]: Yes, it is not sus

Glad we got that cleared up

jamss[m]: How

Idkrn is sus

<idkrn[m]> "How" <- They were the first phones to just shazam 24/7 I always figured they were the most compromised

who invented monero

Scaling and anonymizing Bitcoin at layer 1 with client-side validation github.com/LNP-BP/layer1

cool wit hme

* cool with me

<suitslie[m]> "gh.cleaned.png" <- You are the dopest memewizard

<ajs_[m]> "Scaling and anonymizing Bitcoin..." <- stupid

<ajs_[m]> "Scaling and anonymizing Bitcoin..." <- Just switch everything to a new layer we made, bro

Layer one security and you dont have too soft fork…..

Pretty sure they need hard fork…

Alex | LocalMonero | AgoraDesk: Yo is the localmonero website source code somewhere available?