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lesoto
is possible to mine with xeon phi ?
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Inge
Monero? not profitably if you pay for electricity
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m-relay
<basses:matrix.org> how I can steal electricity?
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m-relay
<jordan_sanchez:matrix.org> video_5856113.mp4
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plowsof
Steal it from the sun with a solar panel
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m-relay
<jordan_sanchez:matrix.org> video_27590d4.mp4
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m-relay
<jordan_sanchez:matrix.org> Or get yourself some glowing power rocks, and boil water with them 😈.
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m-relay
<jordan_sanchez:matrix.org> video_5035769.mp4
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m-relay
<jordan_sanchez:matrix.org> Just remembered the sun is essentially a giant nuclear reactor :/
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lesoto
any quality link that have maths about solar panel cost,performance etc
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m-relay
<jordan_sanchez:matrix.org> Some say it’s cheap, and affordable, others say $20,000 at minimum cost.
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m-relay
<jordan_sanchez:matrix.org> It’s possibly viable but not scalable for consistent returns.
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m-relay
<jordan_sanchez:matrix.org> Just depends on the hardware used, and the algorithm mined.
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m-relay
<jordan_sanchez:matrix.org> I’m basing this off of BTC mining however though since most articles I read talk about BTC.
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m-relay
<jordan_sanchez:matrix.org> I think a small setup with a jackery, and panel is probably cheaper but won’t get you a profit.
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m-relay
<jordan_sanchez:matrix.org> Whereas a full scale operation is definitely profitable but it takes a lot of dedication, and resources to get there.
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lesoto
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m-relay
<jordan_sanchez:matrix.org> That’s interesting, would be cool to see where that could go.
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lesoto
no one answered if worth to mine xeon phi co-processor
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sech1
define "worth"
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m-relay
<van-stab-holme:matrix.org> I just realized I could've pool mined instead of downloading the blockchain for 4 days straight. Got that RTFM treatment👌
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lesoto
ROI
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lesoto
do ROI exist for some used xeon phi on ebay
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lesoto
eBay-Artikelnr.:186174567640
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lesoto
a simple example
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ofrnxmr
@jordan, know what i hate? When ppl speculate about facts
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sech1
If you don't pay for electricity, you can probably ROI it in 10 years
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sech1
77 euro? Probably faster than in 10 years
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lesoto
why so big difference with real cpu
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rbrunner
Chance has it that it seems that was discussed a bit just yesterday here. See the log:
libera.monerologs.net/monero/20240215#c332386
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sech1
It can mine 7 kh/s, so it will mine 80 euro in less than a year
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sech1
but if you pay for electricity, you'll pay much more than that
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sech1
I didn't realize they're so cheap now
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lesoto
they have ROI in < one year !
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lesoto
this is very interesting
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m-relay
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lesoto
howto measure before buying their hashrate
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lesoto
on benchmark monero there is now xeon phi example
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m-relay
<ofrnxmr:agoradesk.com> You buy one, then submit the first benchmark
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sech1
they have ROI only if you don't pay for electricity
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sech1
and also manage to run XMRig on it
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lesoto
i have 4 E7- 4870 and they produce 10.2 kh/s so xeon phi is definitely better
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m-relay
<jordan_sanchez:matrix.org> @ ofrnxmr I’m not speculating, it’s just hard to make a concrete estimation based off of inconclusive data, & multiple variables.
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m-relay
<jordan_sanchez:matrix.org> Crypto mining can be profitable but for most people it’s not.
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m-relay
<jordan_sanchez:matrix.org> Solar just adds another uncertain variable since you can get tax write-offs, etc. but the panels can be costly, & might not work to fill capacity.
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m-relay
<jordan_sanchez:matrix.org> So, I was responding with what I skimmed.
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ofrnxmr
"That’s interesting, would be cool to see where that could go." << we know where
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m-relay
<jordan_sanchez:matrix.org> It seems like an interesting idea, that is what I’m saying.
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m-relay
<ofrnxmr:agoradesk.com> An idea that a few people are already running in production
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m-relay
<jordan_sanchez:matrix.org> Lesoto had said “this one has stopped”, and reading briefly the GitHub of the programmer it had seemed to me as if there was a funding issue which could cause it to become defunct.
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m-relay
<jordan_sanchez:matrix.org> It’s a cool idea, and I hope that it stays alive.
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m-relay
<ofrnxmr:agoradesk.com> Mj-xmr is a scammer
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m-relay
<ofrnxmr:agoradesk.com> And endor00 is sick
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m-relay
<endor00:matrix.org> You might want to refrain from speaking of things you have no knowledge about
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m-relay
<ofrnxmr:agoradesk.com> You claimed to be sick
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m-relay
<ofrnxmr:agoradesk.com> The finer details of your sickness arent important. Thats the reason given for why the ccs is not completed, is it not?
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m-relay
<jordan_sanchez:matrix.org> He has been healed 😮!
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m-relay
<jordan_sanchez:matrix.org> (I’m making a joke to bring some light humor)
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great_taste
I wish bisq was a monero wallet
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plowsof
You wish it wasnt peer to peer xD
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snex
why do you wish bisq was a monero wallet
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plowsof
Does it not have monero wallet rpc integration like basocswapdex cc ofrnxmr
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plowsof
Basicswapdex*
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snex
it can take a view key and monitor for incoming tx
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great_taste
so I could store xmr in it
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snex
you can code it and write a pull request
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RavFX
Eventually Haveno.. Would be nice indeed to have an alternative to localmonero to be able to convert XMR to local toilet paper without having to convert to BTC first (and pay the btc scamfee)
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snex
eventually when? its vaporware
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RavFX
soon(tm)
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nioCat
noun 1) New software that has been announced or marketed but has not been produced. 2) An advertised product, often computer software, whose launch has not happened yet and might or might not ever happen.
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nioCat
doesn't seem to fit the definition
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RavFX
Yeah, Haveno definitively there.. Tested the beta many time.
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snex
then why isnt it available yet
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snex
whats the excuse
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RavFX
I think it's (very soon)...
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snex
theres literally zero news updates on the website since ErCommie "left"
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snex
and that was over a year ago
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nioCat
and yet there has been news in other places
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plowsof
github.com/haveno-dex/haveno releases/commits say otherwise
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plowsof
Living under a rock snex?
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snex
nope. living in reality. this project is a shitshow
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plowsof
In your reality nothing has happened for a year
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snex
they created a bunch of hype and then instead of releasing an mvp quickly theyve been just doing jack shit
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snex
last commit "update translations for sell limits" gime a fuckin break why are you spending time on this when theres no mvp yet
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plowsof
If you are not satisfied with progress follow your own advice and make a pull request
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snex
nah i know when to spot vaporware and give up on it
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plowsof
So 1 year ago when you thought it wasnt vaporware, dod you make a pull request?
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plowsof
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snex
i barely heard about it then
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plowsof
You said they created hype
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snex
uh yeah? they created hype around that time
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plowsof
Barely heard about it now?
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snex
which caused me to hear about it
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snex
and then i saw zero progress
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snex
but lots of begging
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snex
classic red flag for vaporware
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plowsof
Did you make an issue about the lack of progress you seen?
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m-relay
<someoneelse495495:matrix.org> alright grandpa it's med time
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snex
why would i make an issue? if people want to chase dreams thats their problem
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m-relay
<someoneelse495495:matrix.org> that's it good snex. You are more clever than the community. That's it good boy
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plowsof
Progress can be followed in #haveno #haveno-dev (irc side)
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m-relay
<van-stab-holme:matrix.org> Is there any benefit to having root on an android device when mining with XMRig?
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m-relay
<van-stab-holme:matrix.org> Is there any benefit to having root on an android device when mining with XMRig in Termux?
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m-relay
<123bob123:matrix.org> Privilege escalation ?
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m-relay
<intr:envs.net> Regarding syncing the blockchain as quickly as possible, is there any real benefit to tweaking `block-sync-size`? The default is "adaptive" but that doesn't say much about performance
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ofrnxmr
Snex must not have heard the news
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ofrnxmr
Haveno is moving to mainnet testing before binance delists, right woodser 🙃