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<a​nnwyn:matrix.org> hi guys! anyone know what happened to Monerujo room? it glitched and started showing twice on my rooms list, i tried to leave and re-join, but now that i left i can't find it on matrix

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Not sure, you left the room.

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> Rq

<a​nnwyn:matrix.org> which one?

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Monerujo

<a​nnwyn:matrix.org> ah, yes, i did. the question is how to join it again?

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> #monerujo:monero.social annwyn

<a​nnwyn:matrix.org> Thanks a million!

<t​rasherdk:monero.social> Don't tell your mom.

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> Zero knowledge proofs

<a​js_:matrix.org> MoneroKon submission deadline is 15th March - x.com/monerokon/status/1758780130413904191?s=61

<a​js_:matrix.org> Want to do a talk or host a workshop, send proposals here: apply.monerokon.org

<f​loatingbear:matrix.org> :-D

<b​asses:matrix.org> that's still a loss

<b​asses:matrix.org> I'm here to make profit

<t​rasherdk:monero.social> So, find free electricity elsewhere 😬

<b​asses:matrix.org> Solar panels

<t​rasherdk:monero.social> They are not exactly free either.

<b​asses:matrix.org> Taxes for sun?

<t​rasherdk:monero.social> Solar panels are not free. Where did the tax part come from?

<b​asses:matrix.org> Not the the initial cost

<t​rasherdk:monero.social> You got the numbers and can calculate your ROI.

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> I consider solar panel free

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Considered I'm normally on the exponential pricing bracket for the utility, they paid themself back after only two years.

<b​asses:matrix.org> probably going to be the best investment ever

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Yeah for sure

monero is only used for drugs

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> I'm sure you have the data to back that claim

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> please post it

<b​asses:matrix.org> lmao

sdfgsdfg: nothing wrong with drugs

they make the world go 'round

<b​asses:matrix.org> bad

<d​ezinfik:matrix.org> i get my salary in xmr

<d​ezinfik:matrix.org> not drugs related

<d​ezinfik:matrix.org> :D

<d​ezinfik:matrix.org> for last 5 years

<d​ezinfik:matrix.org> client wanted to pay me in btc, i requested xmr

uncle_rae that's my man

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Same actually.

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> It's just money

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> No XMR? no code

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Easy

<d​ezinfik:matrix.org> funny thing is that drug dealers are using more usdt and btc than xmr

<d​ezinfik:matrix.org> converting to cash

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Not going to pay btc scamfee everytime I want to pay a bill or something

<d​ezinfik:matrix.org> or moving cash to btc/usdt to move around the money

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> talking of btc scamfee, anyone noticed BTC scamfee since the pump?

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> It's extremely low (Usually when it's bullish it's over 5$ full time)

<d​ezinfik:matrix.org> so anyone who's talking shit about xmr, they are just kiddos who read gov news :D good luck when they get cdbc and track your money

<d​ezinfik:matrix.org> and define how much u can spend

<d​ezinfik:matrix.org> they done that already in EU, when they introduced ATM withdrawal limits

<d​ezinfik:matrix.org> or when you deposit 10k in the bank and try to withdraw, they ask you "why do u need 10k?"

<d​ezinfik:matrix.org> gtfo that's my money

<d​ezinfik:matrix.org> so that's monero <3

<d​ezinfik:matrix.org> my main currency

<b​asses:matrix.org> discuss.privacyguides.net/t/suggest…elaborate-how-to-get-monero/16817/4

<b​asses:matrix.org> do you guys agree with that reply?

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> not really.

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Just buy them on Localmonero using using local payment methods (stay away from crap maker that sell the XMR in exchange of Western Union, Scampal or other "international" payment method).

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Or use Haveno (soon™️) and local payment method.

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> If you are in a free country, you likely are able to buy XMR in random convenient store. Cash by mail seam to be only viable option is scammy dystopia land.

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Option 4 is for "first world" dystopia mostly, imo

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Note that it's untrue that there is more fee. Yes fees can be higher, but if you are in a region with a very low amount of participants on Localmonero or Haveno, then buying LTC then converting to XMR will be cheaper than buying on Localmonero/Haveno.

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> In a region well deserved by makers on LM, you can get monero at spot price

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> UK is a dystopia, as Canada, USA... EU less bad so far bit it's getting scary too

<b​asses:matrix.org> >stay away from crap maker that sell the XMR in exchange of Western Union, Scampal or other "international" payment method).

<b​asses:matrix.org> lmao that's only the option available

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Yeah, in dystopia it's the only option available :p

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> I buy myt monero at the convenient store

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> And when I dump, money flow from random bank atm of my choice...

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> That's on localmonero, usually less than 5-10 for the contact to do his thing.

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> But I live in the "third world"

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> I buy my monero at the convenient store

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> And when I dump, money flow from random bank atm of my choice...

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> That's on localmonero, usually less than 5-10 for the contact to do his thing.

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> But I live in the "third world"

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> I buy my monero at the convenient store

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> And when I dump, money flow from random bank atm of my choice...

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> That's on localmonero, usually less than 5-10 min (average, sometime they are slower) for the contact to do his thing.

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> But I live in the "third world"

<b​asses:matrix.org> interesting that you could buy monero in a ""third world" store

<t​rasherdk:monero.social> Paying 20% markup on localmonero is a joke.

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Just choose "bank deposit" on LM then go deposit cash in a random convenient store

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> paying less than 1% markup yeah

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> worst rate is the cash at ATM option, it's like 2%

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> paying less than 1% markup yeah

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> worst rate is the cash at ATM option, it's like 2-5%

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> 20% on local monero is because of the lack of market participants so the few makers are just milking the takers

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> I do the same on unstoppable swap when I'm the only maker 😂

<b​asses:matrix.org> found the griefer

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Hey, I just do what a normal maker do when he is alone

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> It's why you want more market participants... And why LM become more like real spot price when there competition between the makers

<b​asses:matrix.org> isn't that KYC?

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> non, I just go to the convenient store, give a pile of cash and give other dude card number

<b​asses:matrix.org> is that the guide you follow? archive.org/details/how-to-buy-non-kyc-monero

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> for the cash at random bank atm.

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Contact just give me a code, you go to atm, choose operation without card, type the code... Then cash flow

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> I don't use crypto ATM, normal bank atm, no kyc needed

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> crypto ATM don't exist here lol

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> It was up to you guys to lobby for agoradesk when localbitcoins failed.

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> It was the perfect trojan horse... Once they try agoradesk they notice that people trading XMR have there reputation number go up faster so most endup doing the monero too.

<b​asses:matrix.org> is github.com/mymonero still actively developed? last commit was 2 year ago

<a​zalty:matrix.org> Sadly it's pretty much impossible to buy XMR with no KYC at market price. Yea crypto swaps exist but you still have to eat a small percentage

<a​zalty:matrix.org> But hey, that's how the world is.

its impossible to buy basically any asset at "market price"

i have a next gen version coming in a sec basses

i am the former director

well

technically still am ;)

anyway it sucks compared to my new hotness

and obstacles are nearly cleared now

it will include major improvements to the clientside and server

people need to know about them so i'm delivering a disclosure of the developments and discoveries as well

<b​asses:matrix.org> hmm, ok

<b​asses:matrix.org> github.com/mymonero/mymonero-app-js/pulls

?

<b​asses:matrix.org> There are many security vulnerabilities not patched

<b​asses:matrix.org> dependencies

<b​asses:matrix.org> and packages

probably, yeah

there's a long story behind that project

let's just say it was supposed to be way more than it was allowed to be

and it used to be so much more important as a tech contributor to monero

ho hum greed breeds disaster

<j​effro256:monero.social> Would anyone be interested in such a talk: cfp.monerokon.org/2024/talk/review/GVXFYUJXZFZAK9R7C8S9CXYLF9D3QKCV?. Or this too niche..

<j​effro256:monero.social> What greed was involved with MyMonero since it was a free service?

lol

ifi told you i'd be in danger

i'm not referring to anything pertaining to the vkeys fwiw

for starters, mymonero was not allowed to be what it was sold as

a free , open, and community first project

by "core devs" lol

<j​effro256:monero.social> by whom?

are you just unaware or are you attempting to rewrite history?

<j​effro256:monero.social> i havent been around that long i have no idea what you're referring to

gotcha

yeah, it's gonna be tough for you to know everything unless I can actually tell you freely which I don't plan on doing

I just don't want people to think that I am aware of any sort of intentional privacy violations because I would've told everybody by now

i'm more talking about contributors lives being ruined and projects being co opted and disrupted for other motives

I have been massively, defamed and disrupted and stolen from, and that's just the beginning

What people don't realize is that the monero project has too

what's more important is the actual work so that's what I'm focusing on right now

it should be known that I left MyMonero before the story that I was fired, was circulated. The facts are obvious in that regard or it never would've happened in the first place.

maybe I can share more at some point but at the moment I don't have any plans to do anything like that

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> Anti climatic

... parasite?

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> We will find out in the next episode ?

anyway, an anti-climax is better than the monero project having failed

Who is this Bob character anyway?

Is there something you'd like to share with the class?

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> Eves friend

let's keep it that way

<j​effro256:monero.social> Any general advice that could be applicable for Monero dev going forwrd?

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> Curious you seem to say i have this and i have that and i’ll show it soon

jeffro how so?

the more concrete or substantial the more i can get a sense of the q to give a better response

general advice hm

dont tell a lie

present something good to yourself

love yourself?

understand the roots of the project

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> Been smoking something?

yeah suckers like you

learn to be contributive

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> don't ask for tasks, look at open issues / pull requests and get to work

"the answers are in the problems"

ok one thing

anyone remember how we used to talk about the c4?

The idea was that if we could decide that somebody was a bad actor, then we should expel them

<e​laryan:hackliberty.org> Can't do that.

<e​laryan:hackliberty.org> Permissionless culture, buddy.

<e​laryan:hackliberty.org> Learn to deal with the kind.

it wasn't my idea

and I suppose you're unfamiliar with the history of this project

and the problem is that there is a certain kind that one cannot deal with except by expulsion

<e​laryan:hackliberty.org> All projects are the same, they're all made by humans.

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> forked from a scam no less!

no, some people do not actually behave like they have human nature

it requires a functioning conscience

The problem is that people can't always tell the difference between those people

they seem to look like humans

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> Or it’s not a project problem, but internet problem

we don't want to believe that some people are capable of being predatory

because we want to look to strong people as leaders

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> Yep 🚬

that's one reason anyway

anyway, I submit an obvious example for your consideration

loser

people who don't love themselves get triggered by someone who loves them :)

where's that .bbl thing?

ppl who repress lack of self love *

this is the kind of knowledge that the community needs to prevent itself from social attack

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> 🍻

it's not a new warning and I'm not the one who came up with this stuff in the first place

it's just it seems people have forgotten the conversations had by the people who were most closely involved in the development of the project

I imagine a large amount of that stuff is recorded on the Internet, but who on earth is going to go back and really understand it unless they lived it

The C4 thing is not my idea, but it was told by a core team member years ago

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> Its hard to decide 🍻or 🚬

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> cc nioCat "where is the .bbl thing"

.bbl

wen gpt

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> i hope people here, reading this right now realise that they are witnessing peak #monero

dont say that lol

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> :D

you guys are going to flip at what I've been working on

I promise

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> There it is

<b​asses:matrix.org> pics?

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> Got the munches

<b​asses:matrix.org> We should start a petition to change this group name to "Monero soon™️"

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> Thats nioc ©️ phrase…. You have to pay royalties to use it

<b​asses:matrix.org> twitter.com/anoneroio/status/1757595012143943835

<b​asses:matrix.org> Monero projects keeps getting sabotaged

<e​laryan:hackliberty.org> pics-or-it-didnt-happen.jpg

<e​laryan:hackliberty.org> Self-sabotage, paranoia.

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> nothing to see here

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<e​laryan:hackliberty.org> you need a website, pal, telegram sucks

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<e​laryan:hackliberty.org> it's the only way forward Im afraid