Just got awakened by a massive shindo 3/magnitude 5.3 earthquake.

<k​lausschwab:monero.social> GHPYI0DWUAAecZ9.jpg

<s​nex:matrix.xens.org> hey just because 98% of podcasts are shit doesnt mean his buttcoin one is

<s​nex:matrix.xens.org> did i mention i have one? gonna be discussing monero in 2 weeks

I don't listen to podcasts, they always take hours.

<s​nex:matrix.xens.org> ours is 1 hr or less

<d​ave.jp:matrix.org> 1hr of hissing 🐍

<s​nex:matrix.xens.org> u wot

<d​ave.jp:matrix.org> Link to your podcast? So I can listen

<s​nex:matrix.xens.org> thecanaryinthecage.com

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> Canary in the coal mine

<h​anshan:monero.social> Recently compiled version of monerod is throwing exceptions every minute or two?

<h​anshan:monero.social> stack_trace.cpp:133 Exception: std::bad_alloc

<h​anshan:monero.social> and then 22 lines of unwinding the stack.

<h​anshan:monero.social> but seems to have synced fine and running normally otherwise afaict?

<h​anshan:monero.social> thoughts?

<s​nex:matrix.xens.org> its always done that

<h​anshan:monero.social> for real??

<s​nex:matrix.xens.org> yes

AmericanScream inspired me to pay for grosseries with Monero this time, like a good, law abiding criminal.

<a​mericanscream:matrix.org> It's fine! Doxxing, personal threats and attacks are things I've already experienced after debating against Bitcoiners for years. This is why I discuss via DM, as group discussions tend to devolve into name-calling. It's normal as all communities are echo chambers really, and it can be scary facing the truth sometimes.

I thought you said bye to everyone and promised not to return. You should think why discussions with you always devolve. Maybe because of your mentoring style, instead of a real discussion?

<a​mericanscream:matrix.org> My matrix instance might be bugging out but I came back here to find someone I can debate on Monerotopia. I mentioned this yesterday. Anyways, I'm not doing going forward with this debate as I fear for my safety. I've received private messages threatening to post all my private information including my face, address and all. I tried to play nice but this community is being crimina<clipped message>

<a​mericanscream:matrix.org> l, literally criminal!

<e​ndor00:matrix.org> americanscream: nobody wants to "debate" with you because you're not really looking for a debate - you just want to confirm your existing beliefs and have been ignoring anything else. You have not "tried to play nice", you have been hostile from the moment you joined the room. Granted, this doesn't justify the response of some other people in here - but it doesn't represent the Mo<clipped message>

<e​ndor00:matrix.org> nero community either

<a​mericanscream:matrix.org> On the contrary, debates in my DM went smoothly with active community members. I won't name them but they're pretty big around here and I even admitted they were right in most cases. I was hostile because certain members harassed me. I didn't ignore anything as all my attempts to debate were met with attacks against my personal character.

wow is there a drama her

*here

<a​mericanscream:matrix.org> How would you feel if you've spent weeks researching a debate and the first thing that happens when you join a chat is someone calling you a communist and threatening to dox?

<a​mericanscream:matrix.org> How would you feel if you've spent weeks researching for a doc and the first thing that happens when you join a chat is someone calling you a communist and threatening to dox?

americanscream: what are you trying to debate?

<a​mericanscream:matrix.org> I'm not going to continue debating anything related to Monero anymore as I fear for my safety now. I find it so ironic this is happening.

<a​mericanscream:matrix.org> @xmrscott:monero.social or @plowsof:matrix.org please read my DM. Thank you.

i mean as long as you are behind a VPN or tor and don't share any PII you should be fine

even if you aren't behind a vpn

this is internet. It's easy to type 'i am going to bla bla bla rip this planet in half and have you become annoyed by that' but will anyone actually do that?

also how do i read those links? i'm not on matrix im on IRC

<a​mericanscream:matrix.org> Someone here has message me my full address, spammed emails to my company email address, has photos of my family and is threatening to post them unless I meet certain demands.

<a​mericanscream:matrix.org> messaged*

<e​ndor00:matrix.org> Don't forget the part where you stated that you want to make a documentary, then asked the same old trite questions that everyone in here has seen a thousand times, ignored or dismissed all their replies, and called everyone a criminal a priori :)

<a​mericanscream:matrix.org> I really don't care anymore. This is an issue regarding my safety now. The least I care about is Monero.

<a​mericanscream:matrix.org> I'll still publish the doc eventually no matter what.

<o​cean:matrix.thisisjoes.site> this guy is a troll

<a​mericanscream:matrix.org> Are there any other mods here? I've got an urgent request.

I'm still waiting for reply regarding Canadian truckers and how they would be happy using bank transfers

So, 1) AmericanScream is still here, again. 2) he's still as ignorant and hypocrite as he was from the beginning.

<e​ndor00:matrix.org> Here's what I don't get though: if I were under this much threat from something "I care the least" about, the last thing I'd be doing is keep hanging out here complaining how everyone is mean to me. I would have actually left a long while ago

<e​ndor00:matrix.org> That was a given :)

<a​mericanscream:matrix.org> *Sigh*. Please read one of the messages I posted above. I need to do something here before I can leave and need the help of mods.

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> wb

<a​mericanscream:matrix.org> @plowsof:matrix.org and @xmrscott:monero.social I trust that you'll eventually read my messages. Please respond when you can. Thanks.

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> lol

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> opensource we ask questions here and not hide behind dms

He muted me because I hurt his holy feelings, lol. But I do suspect he's still desperately trying to bribe the mods to ban me.

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> cu in 5mins

<k​lausschwab:monero.social> <a data-mention-type="user" href="matrix.to/#/@123bob123:matrix.org" contenteditable="false">@Dan 🤐 | alderman (Is not the man & Braxman Tomsparks Advocate )</a> Wanna place a bet on how long it'll be before he comes back?

Meanwhile, still no answer to the Canadian trucker questions.

<k​lausschwab:monero.social> remiliascarlet Y'know exactly why he won't answer that

Yes.

The_Blode: see what i mean?

Good morning all...I'm here but I don't quite know why I clicked the link

<k​lausschwab:monero.social> And even more hilarious is a REDDIT MOD complaining about "MUH ECHO CHAMBERS"

klausschwab, that guy is a textbook example of an SJW, must have suffered brain damage from being a Reddit mod.

"I literally came to a community about something I hate, just to lecture everyone how criminal they are for using something I don't like."

No wonder nobody likes him then!

<o​cean:matrix.thisisjoes.site> just use paypal bro

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> cause they dont sanction on paypal

<k​lausschwab:monero.social> Guys, new drinking game:

<k​lausschwab:monero.social> Take a shot everytime americanscream....

<k​lausschwab:monero.social> Calls someone a criminal

<k​lausschwab:monero.social> Says "Imma leave" then comes back

<k​lausschwab:monero.social> Screeches "OH WOE IS ME"

<k​lausschwab:monero.social> Plays the victim card

Worries about people name-calling him in public chat, name-calls all of us "criminals".

In public chat.

Doesn't like we don't answer any of his teachings that he calls "questions", completely ignores questions that are uncomfortable to him.

Thinks I'm attacking him because I'm calling out his true intend, then attacks me.

<b​asses:matrix.org> <del>based</del>

<b​asses:matrix.org> wasted your time

<b​asses:matrix.org> what certain demands? lol. Pay in Monero? lol

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> Dont bother, just a shit stirrer

<s​iren:kernal.eu> FYI nobody asked and I didn't send anyone anything. So nobody cares he's just lying.

<f​r33_yourself:monero.social> If my understanding is correct, because the flooder hasn't been flooding for all that long, then the Long Term Median hasn't risen yet correct? He would have to continue to flood for another month or month and a half or so right?

<f​r33_yourself:monero.social> If the flooder continues flooding and the Long Term Median goes up after some time elapses then the block size will go up 1.7x. If the attacker is paying around 3 XMR per day in fees currently then he will be paying 5.1 XMR per day in fees after the expansion assuming fees per transaction in XMR don't go down. Still a pretty cheap attack. Let's see how long they keep this up

<p​cre:matrix.org> ibb.co/Lt7bQSB

<p​cre:matrix.org> TX /day from 2019-Today

<p​cre:matrix.org> Using monero-blochain-stats. Regards to hyc

<p​cre:matrix.org> ibb.co/dQygkgp

<r​ucknium:monero.social> pcre: What plotting software is that? It looks like R's ggplot, but the grid lines are a little. Maybe different software, but ggplot-inspired.

<p​cre:matrix.org> I did'nt filter the outliers.

<p​cre:matrix.org> ibb.co/YkFq10m

<p​cre:matrix.org> If you like very low fees. Try sending on the weekend.

<r​ucknium:monero.social> That one is definitely base R :)

<r​ucknium:monero.social> pcre probably still can't hear me because of cross-server Matrix problems 😢

:(

<p​cre:matrix.org> ibb.co/kX7h3YM

<p​cre:matrix.org> The outlier (attack)!?

<p​cre:matrix.org> ^-2024

<b​asses:matrix.org> gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/applications/tor-browser/-/issues/42283

<b​asses:matrix.org> > why is Blockchair even in Tor Browser...? Block explorers are useful as a debugging tool, but I don't think Tor Browser ships any other debugging tools as search engines. There are plenty of documented cases of bad actors running block explorers, either to do surveillance or to defraud people.

<b​asses:matrix.org> Are Monero blockchain explorers susceptible to surveillance?

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Personally I don't trust them

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> I self host my own local monero onion explorer and mempool.space

<p​cre:matrix.org> ibb.co/WKNSRbn

<p​cre:matrix.org> Outliers from 2019-Today. Looks fine.

<j​bl_byd:matrix.org> guys if i use a monero wallet to recive monero

<j​bl_byd:matrix.org> will my ISP know i recived it ?

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> The isp will know that you connected to a monero node

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> they won't know if you receive monero

You can connect to the node via tor.

"Are Monero blockchain explorers susceptible to surveillance?" I wouldn't be surprised if they at least tried.

<p​cre:matrix.org> I would say. yes. it might depend on the wallet you are using.

Even though you can't actually trace transactions back to a specific identity, where are possibly people who mess up, and if they do, it'll stick out as a sore thumb yelling "please inspect my ass" as loudly as possible.

s/where/there

<p​cre:matrix.org> If you don't check the txpool for any tx-ids

<p​cre:matrix.org> But i am a nobody. Maybe someone knows better.

Block explorers can log IP address for each viewed transaction, but you can access them via Tor

Yeah, if you use tor it's fine. But if you use your IP they can easily know that your IP viewed X transaction (probably something you sent or received... Or you are doing some study about TX or something)

"But i am a nobody. Maybe someone knows better." Well, according to a certain personality who was/is/left/cameback here a couple times, we are all criminals. Guess at least somebody knows better, yeah.

My strategy is to simply view the transaction in my wallet, and as soon as the first confirmation comes, I know I no longer need to worry.

<p​cre:matrix.org> paste.debian.net/1311499

<p​cre:matrix.org> The GnuR script to plot the outliers

<s​nex:matrix.xens.org> why not just run your own node? hard drives are cheap

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Yeah, run your node, run your explorer(s).

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> That way you can query as much as you want without providing any intel

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> That's the only reason I also run a Bitcoin node

How big that is?

<s​nex:matrix.xens.org> 170G or so

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Monero ~200GB

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Bitcorn ~500GB

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> give some loose so it can grow :)

A hard drive of this size is a few doz3en dollars... Unless you are in danger or have a big sums there - that's quite expensive.

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…ero.social/ezkEszCiasCzOPTjFjOmTUPR

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Monero one is 192.5GB right now

I remember having run a node before, but I was unable to get it working with the Monero wallet, so I gave up on it.

<s​nex:matrix.xens.org> use gupax

Btw I don't know if it is the right place to ask - does someone know a domain registrar that is affordable and accepts Monero?

I know Njalla and 1984, but Njalla is not "proper" registration and 1984 is not suitable for me for certain reasons.

Imo the best option for registar is namesilo, they accept many corn flavor but no monero. Njalla is meh, I would not use it, they wont even let me transfer my domain out. I did not try 1984 so can't say

They don't let you transfer? Didn't know that. I know some that accept BTC, but didn't want to deal with fees, heard they're fairly large.

BlueyHealer: I'm sure you'll find some here: monerica.com

namesilo have "BTC" and "Bitpay or something like that" so you can use tron, ltc and other scams

wtf is this

You mean Monerica? It's a collection of merchents where you can pay with Monero, includes domain registrars.

No, that was not in response to you, rather to the person below. Missed Monerica, would take a look.

Looked it up and seems thag Bitpay has kyc? What is the point then??

sketchy

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> you don't need KYC to pay on name silo

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> if the payment processor ask information, you can just fill it with random

KYC is probably only for the merchent, not for customers.

ah

But namesilo don't care. You do have to put domain contact information but they can be kinda random, you are going to enable domain privacy mode anyway right

I also don't really mind swapping to another crypto as long as the fees are small like in Monero.

Yeah, use anything except bitcoin and meth

When fixedfloat will be back properly alive, the faster option is to use it to pay with BTC LN using Monero (so you only wait for the two monero confirmation then you get instant payment using BTC LN)

One low-fees, high-acceptance option I like to use instead of Bitcoin is Litecoin.

Litecoin, Tron

Tron is faster

Doge is also widely accepted but no, it have higher fees and it's slow

But is Tron accepted in all the places you can pay with crypto?

Yeah, I think Tron is accept everywhere

or almost everywhere

And we are going to get Tron in Basicswap afaik

Isn't Doge a meme anyway?

Doge is a meme coin, so as a side effect, it goes up an down in value like an idiot, so by the time you make the transaction, you either send too little or too much.

This chat is the first place I heard of Tron, never seen a place accepting it yet.

And the fee for doge, sometime it's over one USD lol

Are LN fees also low btw?

Same, I never heard of Tron. Either that, or I didn't notice?

Usually LN fees are low, but best used with a swapper. If you want to deal with LN yourself you are going to pay fees

You just did not notice, Tron is widely accepted

Had this GTA effect before with Solana. One guy mentioned Solana to me for the first time, and I was very unaware of its existence. From the next day, all of the sudden I started seeing it everywhere.

And it's instant... kinda

And tron is kinda Stablecoin too, it kind of have the same pattern as Monero for some reason

<b​asses:matrix.org> news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34637568

<b​asses:matrix.org> >The feds will simply sanction any institution which allows XMR to be converted to fiat. The US government has ultimate control over global finance for now, although that iron grip is being weakened with Russia/China's alternative to SWIFT/etc. However, China has already banned XMR domestically.

Yea, sanctions are the only reason I am not using a debit card right now. Also I find it hard to believe they can actually ban XMR - at most I can believe an example being made of some people.

Like, what can they do for that?

They can't ban XMR. Sanctionning thing that swap XMR would just make use using other thing that don't care about the sanctions

Or just swapping to other cryptos on non-sanctionable online exchanges to then use an "official" one.

And the more the US use USD as a weapon, the less USD will be relevant (that already began to execute) So please USSA, use USD more as a weapon pleeeaaase!!

<s​up_bruh:matrix.org> do atomic swaps circumvent this?

Japan has made lots of cryptophobic legislations over the past few years. While it's still possible to get crypto, it's either a Japanese exchange that can take months to get you verified and seconds to ban for any reason, and on top of that you have to walk on egg shells whenever you transfer out of the exchange, or go to Bisq and try your luck getting anyone willing to trade with you.

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Of course

Exchanges are all KYC anyway. Imagine submitting your passport there and then the thing gets breached. EWWW.

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> but if you atomic swap to BTC, you don't know how tainted the btc you are going to get when be sure to do in different wallet instead so it does not taint your other coins

Not all exchange are KYC, there plenty of no kyc options out there

Except for TradeOgre, but they don't take any fiat anyway.

but most of them block USA and some of there vassals.

YEah, if you want to exchange to fiat, there not much option indeed.

Bisq? The one that requires you to own BTC first?

Localmonero :D And maybe Haveno one day. Bisq also work but you have to take an extra step and go by the BTC first

Yea, what is the point then.

In fact, me sending Litecoins to my TradeOgre account is what got me banned from a Japanese exchange. Even though they allowed me to do so, they didn't consider it a "valid" address for the laws they were about to implement a few days later.

How they know its a tradeogre account? They use different address for each traders (but the address dont change)

RavFX: You can use one of those coin card services to exchange Monero for Amazon Gift Cards. Worked wonders.

Yeah, you can use things like coincards or coinsbee.

for Amazon cards

They didn't know, when I said the "TradeOgre" over the phone, they had no idea what they even meant.

if what you want are amazon cards

s/they/that

And what do you do with Amazon cards? Can you cash them out without buying things on Amazon?

No need to wait on Haveno, been waiting for years, then they got an internal civil war with a stable coin they used to pair with, and have never come true with their promises ever since.

No, you can't.

An alternative would be to get something like Rakuten gift cards, which you can redeem on your Rakuten Edy, and use that card in real life stores.

Idk if that would eve work here.

gift cards for real life store is a no go except if you live in select first world countries

It's Japan specific, but maybe an equivelant to what exists in your country?

I also kinda wish there were universal gift cards around. Seen them in one bank, but they're only purchaseable with another card, not cash.

like for my country, only real live store gift card I can get is for starbucks and they dont even have one in my city

Rakuten Edy isn't a gift card, it's a rechargeable wireless payment card.

Oh, it's a Japanese thing.

I have seen specific store ones - the grocery shop downstairs offers these.

Would be nicer if you could do the same with a SUICA, since you can get these cards anonymously.

my country is cash, plastic only accepted at bigger chain store

So do a lot of other stores. But not a universal one that can be used like a regular bank card.

Yeah, that makes things harder.

remiliascarlet, idk if that would be accepted here.

I wonder if people sell and buy these cards on online marketplaces. That would be a decent cashout option.

if that rakuten thing is CIRRUS compatible it should be accept mostly everywhere (that accept plastic)

Another trend that exploded over here for a while was QR code payments, which too can be charged with gift cards. But in the end, the market settled with PayPay for us Japs, and Alipay for the Chinks.

Sanctions can affect this like regular international payment systems?

I mean cirrus

RavFX: I doubt that, the wireless cards over here are using a FeliCa chip, which only exists in Japan.

Yeah, cirrus is owned by mastercard so if the admin want X user to be cut, they can do it

here I just localmonero -> cash flowing from random bank ATM

then just use cash, even to buy stuff on aliexpress lol

The FeliCa chipped cards are payment processor independent fortunately.

Many don't even trust Mastercard. Visa and JCB are generally preferred here.

imo there the same. They scam the same and obey the same scammers

Especially the otaku (the big anime/manga/game geeks) don't trust Mastercard at all.

Flowing from random bank atm? And do you just have funds added to your own card? I would be afraid of that, this is sus.

Card? what card? I don't even have a bank account

Good thins I have only small payments and don't have to cash out, only in.

"cash flowing from random bank atm"

Yeah, localmonero contact give me a code, I go to random atm and choose "withdraw without card" then punch the code.. the money flow

Ah, you mean for buying. At least my bank doesn't allow transfers without identifying yourself, but not checked other ones.

I have never seen such an option here, RavFX.

For buying I do the opposide, I deposit into random people bank account... From random convenient store (they all allow depositing into banks account)

Most of Latam can do that, and I think Russia can do too

but yeah, most "first world countries" don't allow that

Depositing might be possible here, ye.

I am not in first world at all.

I mean, all "first world" dont allow that afaik. But not all "not a first world country" allow that

Also depositing can be done to the random wallet systems, like our analogs to Paypal. Some terminals want you to identify yourself by phome number first, but some apparently do not. Haven't tried fully though.

I'm first world sandwiched between the 2nd biggest economy that's a third world country pretending to be first world, and the 1st biggest economy that's a first world country trying to become third world.

Trying to guess. Canada is trying to become third world.. But is Mexico 2nd biggest economy?

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Please fix your "reversed stereo"

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> The guy on the left talk in my right ear

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> The guy on the right talk in my left ear

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> that's weird

<s​nex:matrix.xens.org> thx for the input, i will bring that up today in filming. we have no idea what we are doing from the technical aspect of recording

Snipa_, around? xmrchain might need open file limits fiddled with. i thought i had it good, but error logs in .bitmonero folder claim otherwise

and i can't do it immediately. +5-7 hrs

<j​ack_ma_blabla:matrix.org> when does monerod starts dropping tx from mempool ? whats the default mempool size ?

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> 300MB / 3 DAYS

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> non, i'm wrong

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> 600MB / 3 DAYS

currently no of txs: 216, size: 373.24 kB

<s​up_bruh:matrix.org> man even just the phrase tainted btc make me so happy that monero is a thing

<s​up_bruh:matrix.org> what's happening to bitcoin is the complete antithesis to how it started

<s​nex:matrix.xens.org> bitcoin project was taken over by the cia

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Yep

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> for me BTC died in ~2017

<s​nex:matrix.xens.org> bitcoin/bitcoin #6568 - this is all you need to know lol

<b​asses:matrix.org> Localmonero?

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Yep, if you don't want to go thru BTC, it's like the only option (for now)

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> It's why I say we need Haveno ready for last year

<s​up_bruh:matrix.org> Hahaha "Privacy and fungibility are crucial, ongoing goals of the project" in 2023

New haveno version 0.0.20 is out

Soon :D