<n​ihilist:m.datura.network> monero.fail is still not fixed ;c

<n​ihilist:m.datura.network> does anyone have a list of public monero nodes pls ?

<b​asses:matrix.org> "this ain't me"

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> I got a random dm from a similar name

Nihilist xmr.ditatompel.com/remote-nodes

Not sure how to add nodes here^ but there looks to be enough tor/clearnet to choose from

<n​ihilist:m.datura.network> Neat, thx

<n​ihilist:m.datura.network> I'll run my own monero.fail instance too

<n​ihilist:m.datura.network> That way there's multiple places to get the list of monero nodes

<n​ihilist:m.datura.network> there xmr.datura.network

<n​ihilist:m.datura.network> feel free to list your monero node there

<n​ihilist:m.datura.network> feel free to list your monero node there if monero.fail isnt back online

<b​asses:matrix.org> donate url broken

<b​asses:matrix.org> you copy donate word

<b​asses:matrix.org> donate address broken

<n​ihilist:m.datura.network> not sure what you mean, the address should be fine

<n​ihilist:m.datura.network> ah nvm i get what u mean, will fix that

<s​urstroeming:matrix.org> Have any of you successfully run HAVENO on Qubes?

<s​urstroeming:matrix.org> Can anyone give or provide good instructions?

<s​urstroeming:matrix.org> Or does anyone besides BISQ have an address to buy P2P XMR?

<n​ihilist:m.datura.network> Apparently its easy to run on whonix

<n​ihilist:m.datura.network> Didnt try but someone told me he had just followed the same steps as on debian

<n​ihilist:m.datura.network> So I guess you could try to run it in whonix in your qubes setup

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Yes, it works.

<s​urstroeming:matrix.org> 😳😲 in Qubes??!!!

<s​urstroeming:matrix.org> Oh please, how do You do it?

<j​ohnfoss68:matrix.org> themoneromoon.com/p/the-monero-moon-issue-69

<0​xfffc:monero.social> SyntheticBird SyntheticBird (Matrix.org) : ping

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> sorry I was taking breakfast

<0​xfffc:monero.social> no worries at all, thanks for reply. sent you DM

<r​akotako:matrix.org> Hi all, how profitable is it to mine monero?

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> Not really profitable

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> I recommend that you research online before asking: minerstat.com/coin/XMR/profitability

<r​akotako:matrix.org> oh thanks

rakotako:matrix.org: Depends on how much fiat you're willing to throw away on electricity bills.

In my case, 1 month of nonstop mining gave me a grand total of 0.02 XMR, and an electricity bill of 22,000 yen (which at the time was a 13,000 yen increase from the norm).

Normally I would pay 9,000 yen a month, which includes both electricity and gas.

not sure if this is the right place to ask. But anyway, I want to buy monero from the UK, but of course, kraken etc don't allow buying XMR with fiat currency, so instead I need to buy an intermediate coin like BTC, ETH, LTC, etc, and then swap that with something like changenow (right?). What I'm wondering is, is there a reason to prefer one intermediate coin over another, for example, would the fees be less for LTC than BTC, for example? What intermediate

coins do you lot use for this purpose?

<h​ackerg:monero.social> Is woodster here?

<c​t:xmr.mx> bdax use LTC on haveno or on trocador

<c​t:xmr.mx> LTC because high liquidity, wide acceptance, low transaction fees

<c​t:xmr.mx> hackerg just what you want to ask. If its about haveno, maybe ask in the haveno room instead

<h​ackerg:monero.social> Ahhh ok that makes sense

<h​ackerg:monero.social> Hold on I don't see a "haveno" chat in "matrix.monero.social"

<h​ackerg:monero.social> only in matrix.org. Is that the one you are talking about?

<b​asses:matrix.org> no but at #haveno:monero.social

<c​t:xmr.mx> you already asked in the correct haveno room hackerg

thank you ct, I'll have a look at those

<h​ackerg:monero.social> Someone told me to come over to this server. But let me check what rando mentioned. Thanks

<h​ackerg:monero.social> Ok I am confused now 😀

<system> file MoneroListe.png too big to download (8246724 > allowed size: 1000000)

<p​cre:monero.social> MoneroListe.png

<h​ackerg:monero.social> So there must be a "haveno:monero.org" and then a "haveno:monero.social" and one cannot see the messages from the other or something like that?

<c​t:xmr.mx> All users can access all servers. However if you have created a user account on matrix.org, you will receive messages much later (matrix.org issue)

<p​cre:monero.social> Maybe i will do the same list with privacy features. The images are generated by venice_ai

<p​cre:monero.social> e.G. The Slave. Each of your transactions is monitored. Your money can be frozen at any time.

<p​cre:monero.social> Emperor "Absolut freedom"

bdax: For an intermediate coin, use LTC. The simple reason is that you'll save up on fees by a significant amount. Transfering or even converting BTC is fucking expensive.

ETH is worse in that regard.

I wonder just how bad a $5 ETH transaction would be lol

BTW now my domain is about to expire and thus deciding between going to Njalla again or transferring to a "proper" registrar... On one hand, I do want "proper" registration somewhat, on the other - I don't want to be left with LTC "change" in the wallet (and idk how to exchange exactly), and kind of afraid of the registrar realizing the details is fake and taking the domain.

<c​t:xmr.mx> trocador has a payment mode. That type of swap has slightly higher fees, but guarantees that the exact specified amount arrives at the receiver

Oh, nice. Tried it?

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> I've tried it, works as expected

<c​t:xmr.mx> yeah using it whenever I have to pay in btc

I would want to pay in LTC, BTC would probably have too big of a fee for $15

<c​t:xmr.mx> Ltc should support that type of swap as well

Nice.

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Is there a chat here for peer to peer trading XMR?

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Haveno isn’t really working for me yet…

<n​t:4d2.org> bisq iirc

That's BTC-only, no?

and requires you to have BTC already

<n​t:4d2.org> im looking at the bisq wiki atm and it says you can trade monero

Wait, they sell it for fiat too?

<n​ihilist:m.datura.network> random thought: need a P2P general-use marketplace (like xmrbazaar) but as a decentralised service, rather than as a centralised service

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> This is being worked on

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> Let me get the repository

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> github.com/layters/testshop

<n​t:4d2.org> ooh this is neat

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> Last time I checked, main issues are I2P and NAT traversal

<i​ujnjihuhij:nope.chat> HOW TO SET UP MONERO WALLET GUI FOR BEGINNERS 2024 FREE: 45.135.180.23/articles/monero.html

<n​ihilist:m.datura.network> now that is a based project i will follow just like haveno

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> Do not click this link, lol

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> plowsof:

<n​t:4d2.org> get a domain name 😭

<n​ihilist:m.datura.network> thx for sharing :)

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> Actually, it is a guide, probably just attempting to grab IPs

<i​ujnjihuhij:nope.chat> grab ips??? just use a vpn if you don't trust lmao

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> I understand, but I would say that most people aren't apt enough to do that

how dare you not pay for a domain name !!!!!!!

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> This can be considered spam, posting it randomly with no context

<n​t:4d2.org> they're literally 5$ a year lol

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> Or use tor, it is free

<n​t:4d2.org> its cheaper than buying a vps just for a site

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> Yeah, it is from servers.guru

<n​t:4d2.org> dont they jus resell digitalocean/vultr? or is that sporestack

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> I wouldn't know

<n​ihilist:m.datura.network> u can get a domain name with no kyc with nicevps.net btw kycnot.me/service/nicevps

<n​ihilist:m.datura.network> u can get a domain name for monero with no kyc with nicevps.net btw kycnot.me/service/nicevps

<n​t:4d2.org> incognet.io is my preferred

<m​mgen:monero.social> Impreza also sells domain names for XMR

<n​t:4d2.org> yeah but don't they have kyc?

<m​mgen:monero.social> No

<n​ihilist:m.datura.network> i was at incognet before, but they are kinda victims of their own success, ticket support quality went a bit downhill

<m​mgen:monero.social> At least not when I registered mine

<n​ihilist:m.datura.network> but for non-complex services yea they're fine

<n​ihilist:m.datura.network> i see theres mynymbox too but i didnt try them out kycnot.me/service/mynymbox

need to update our home server trolls. so far we have bitcoinist dot org (our favourite) and now we have "nope dot chat" who posts random guides with "free" in the title libera.monerologs.net/monero/20240612#c385406

<i​ujnjihuhij:nope.chat> Thank you I was looking for a place to get a domain name with monero with no KYC, thank you

<n​t:4d2.org> i'd also recommend orangewebsite too

<n​t:4d2.org> nicevps is good but they're quite expensive

<n​ihilist:m.datura.network> yeah i checked orangewebsite, they dont accept monero

<n​ihilist:m.datura.network> yeah i checked orangewebsite, they dont accept monero, no go for me

<n​ihilist:m.datura.network> yeah i checked orangewebsite, they dont accept monero last time i checked, no go for me

<n​ihilist:m.datura.network> oh yeah and all the KYC

<n​ihilist:m.datura.network> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…ra.network/TulerxJlfYcVXXodLTqCxdbw

<m​mgen:monero.social> Impreza for domain name, 1984 for hosting, both XMR with no KYC

<n​t:4d2.org> click on the crypto option

<n​t:4d2.org> they have kyc for credit card payments but they dont for crypto

<n​t:4d2.org> wait what the fuck

<n​t:4d2.org> did they get rid of anonymous domain registration?

<n​t:4d2.org> omg i think they did lol

<n​t:4d2.org> that's retarded

<n​ihilist:m.datura.network> yea i was about to say

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> Ok, if it seems so hard-- maybe I should create a domain registrar proxy

<n​ihilist:m.datura.network> they force you to put a phone number

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> Where I accept Monero then give you the domain? Not sure if it works like that, I'd have to read

<n​ihilist:m.datura.network> they force you to put a phone number, even when u select crypto paymetns

<n​ihilist:m.datura.network> they force you to put a phone number, even when u select crypto payments

<n​ihilist:m.datura.network> sorry but impreza goes ham on the kyc too

<n​ihilist:m.datura.network> image.png

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> Ouch. All of the address/name stuff is for ICANN and can be fake, but phone number, probably not

<m​mgen:monero.social> Nihilist: well that's something new then. When I renewed my domain name in January there was no KYC

<m​mgen:monero.social> recanman: phone # can be fake

<n​t:4d2.org> it's really easy but have fun dealing with abuse reports 😭

<n​ihilist:m.datura.network> make no mistake it's getting harder and harder to get non-KYC domains, thats why i'm keeping track of them on kycnot.me

<m​mgen:monero.social> just select a valid number for the location

<n​t:4d2.org> i mean there will always be njalla but they SUCK

<n​ihilist:m.datura.network> apparently they steal domains, some others love njalla, i didnt try to host something permanent there so i cant really say if they're reliable

<n​ihilist:m.datura.network> i ran some tor exit nodes at njalla at some point to test them

<n​t:4d2.org> yeah they steal domains, their support is childish at best and they're overpriced as shit

<m​mgen:monero.social> Nihilist: phone# can be fake

<n​t:4d2.org> could just use a phone num from quackr.io or something

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> I meant if it seems so hard to register domain without KYC

<n​ihilist:m.datura.network> sorry, but i have no sympathy for services that force their users to put a phone number ( blog.nihilism.network/servers/phonenumbers/index.html )

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> Agreed

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> It discriminates people like me who choose not to have one, especially for places that need it for 2fa

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> It discriminates against people (like me) who choose not to have one, especially for places that need it for 2fa

<m​mgen:monero.social> Nihilist: try finding one that doesn't

<n​ihilist:m.datura.network> yes, it's possible to get a remote phone number, anonymously. but it's VERY scarce. meaning if you're forced to put a phone number, the service is hostile against your anonymity

BTW has anyone had issues with Njalla? I have my domain there for now and don't know whether to renew for the next year.

<n​t:4d2.org> ooh cool blog, is there rss

<b​asses:matrix.org> nicevps got seized bt fbi to take down breachforums

<n​t:4d2.org> oh there is nice

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> If you need a phone number + cellular data, use silent.link, it works well

<n​t:4d2.org> yes they steal domain names

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> I think njalla is fine blueyhealer, but they have taken away someone's domain in the past

Oh nvm I did see scrollback

<n​ihilist:m.datura.network> for domains i know nicevps.net and incognet.io that allow to register domains anonymously

<b​asses:matrix.org> heard they charge 3x for renewal

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> I think for what was on the website

<n​t:4d2.org> no they dont

Yea, I did hear about them doing that, 100% - just don't know how prevalent this is.

<n​t:4d2.org> they resell namecheap so their renewal is based on namecheap's

<n​ihilist:m.datura.network> just to be clear, i'm all for anonymous, non-KYC services, but dont try to do some illegal stuff with it, because the cloud / registrar provider is getting the headache afterward

<n​ihilist:m.datura.network> just to be clear, i'm all for anonymous, non-KYC services, but dont try to do some illegal stuff with it, because the cloud / registrar provider is getting the headache afterward, not cool for them imo

<recanman:kernal.eu> If you need a phone number + cellular data, use silent.link, it works well <- that is only for esim-capable phones though.

<n​t:4d2.org> oh there's also hostcay.com but idk how good they are

<n​ihilist:m.datura.network> a phone number that you use locally is not an anonymous phone number, eSIMs are no exception

<n​t:4d2.org> they **heavily** market as "offshore" hosting and they resell namesilo

As for Njalla - I don't have anything even remotely questionable there, so wonder what my chances of losing a domain are.

<n​ihilist:m.datura.network> in any case, if you guys find non-KYC service providers that accept monero, submit them over at kycnot.me, you'll do everyone a favor by doing that :)

<n​t:4d2.org> ill request hostcay

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> If they don't like it, they'll take it away. Against their political opinions BlueyHealer

Ye, that I get. I just wondered about what is considered "disliked" by them.

And what they pay attention to.

That

<n​t:4d2.org> crippled.media/free-speech-vps-providers-put-to-the-test#Njalla

I have some messaging servers, a proxy and a personal blog.

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> Yes, that is the post I was referencing to. I forgot about it

Thanks!

<n​ihilist:m.datura.network> ok hostcay dont seem to have any kyc for domain registration, checking if they have monero payment options

<n​ihilist:m.datura.network> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…ra.network/lOWRNRLWNOngGgDZqtthuiaP

<b​asses:matrix.org> nt u renewed a domain from incognet?

<n​t:4d2.org> yes i have domains with them

<n​ihilist:m.datura.network> nvm

<n​ihilist:m.datura.network> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…ra.network/dNXuVWYtZHdJWUtIMGfCWERt

nihilist, read the location as "Burgerland" lol

<n​ihilist:m.datura.network> hostcay is heavy on the kyc just like the others

<n​t:4d2.org> WTF THEY LITERALLY ADVERTISE NO KYC

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> Hmm

I think about picking a real address in the country where my VPS is.

<n​ihilist:m.datura.network> welp, there you go

And a real-sounding name from said country.

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> It is a requirement by ICANN, they usually do not care

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> Same with having an email

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> ICANN requires that as well

<b​asses:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/scaEHjAuXFnWOocqlCkZdDnd

<b​asses:matrix.org> nt

<c​t:xmr.mx> particle marketplace is also a possible option in the future

<m​mgen:monero.social> m-relay: VPS country is irrelevant to domain name country, afaik

<b​asses:matrix.org> seems like it depends on the TLD u choose

Do some registrars check the phone number by sms?

<n​t:4d2.org> as stated before they base their renewal off of namecheap's and it's not 3x

<b​asses:matrix.org> .io is expensive as asf for renewal, it is even a controversial TLD

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> Probably yes

I don't actually mind having it tied there, I am just afraid they'd pay attention to the country code and this could cause complications later.

<n​t:4d2.org> i have two .me domains

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> ceetee it is unfortunate as it is a cctld, so the country usually has full control

<mmgen:monero.social> m-relay: VPS country is irrelevant to domain name country, afaik <- I meant accessing it through the proxy anyway, just to at least try to not give out my real place.

<n​t:4d2.org> cctld's don't really affect much

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> For random people, no

<m​mgen:monero.social> m-relay: of course, access everything via Tor, that's a given

<n​t:4d2.org> even if it is a cctld typically used for less than legal reasons (.sx or .to) registrars dont care

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> thehackerblog.com/the-io-error-taki…-a-targeted-registration/index.html

<m​mgen:monero.social> m-relay: or I2P

<n​ihilist:m.datura.network> in the future we'll all return to monkey and just use the IP addresses directly because we wont be able to register domains anonymously anymore lol

nihilist, that or there is I2P.

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> Namecoin/i2p/Tor hidden services

<m​mgen:monero.social> Nihilist: or just move to the darknet

Namecoin? Sounds like a shitcoin lol

<n​ihilist:m.datura.network> yea or using .onion / i2p domains yea

<n​t:4d2.org> this is why lokinet/i2p/tor are so important

<b​asses:matrix.org> They charge you more, that's their business model, they resell VPS and proxy register domains

I am kinda tempted to make my service I2P, but kind of afraid in the current situation, I am paranoid so rather have peace of mind.

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> Listen to the namecoin talks at MoneroKon

<b​asses:matrix.org> fir VPS their upstream chrunbits is a lot cheaper

Lokinet?

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> Should be available soon

<b​asses:matrix.org> and no kyc + accept monero

They restrict creating nodes to the cryptobros, companies or governments!

<n​t:4d2.org> i <3 lokinet

recanman, but yea, now would listen.

<5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> i am implementing lokinet on my whole infra instead of tor atm

<b​asses:matrix.org> so doesn't have to be 1:1 price tag based off namecheap

nt, hosting a node costs a fortune!

<m​mgen:monero.social> m-relay: what's the fear with I2P? My site is hosted on clearnet, onion, and i2p simultaneously

<n​t:4d2.org> true lol but lokinet is *speedy*

<i​ujnjihuhij:nope.chat> is porkbun.com good

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> i2p has a steeper learning curve/is not as well-known

<b​asses:matrix.org> j3s.sh/thought/.io-domains-considered-harmful.html

<n​t:4d2.org> there is kyc but if you don't care yes they are good

Sure, you could theoretically assemble some people so that every one pays a small amount. But the same people could have been paying for a Tor node each, helping the network much more!

<n​ihilist:m.datura.network> well, i do care lol

<i​ujnjihuhij:nope.chat> hey

<i​ujnjihuhij:nope.chat> nilhism is porkbun.com good for no KYC domain

<i​ujnjihuhij:nope.chat> oh I thoguht they didn't require KYC

<mmgen:monero.social> m-relay: what's the fear with I2P? My site is hosted on clearnet, onion, and i2p simultaneously <- I am just afraid to make any remotely risky move in the current political situation. Realistically, having an eepsite is not that risky, but still I would be eaten by anxiety.

<n​t:4d2.org> i used to have some domains with them and i used a fake person generator, caused 0 issues

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> I'll say that it is fine, I like namecheap more though

<m​mgen:monero.social> recanman: apt install i2pd and RTFM

<nt:4d2.org> i used to have some domains with them and i used a fake person generator, caused 0 issues <- with Porkbun?

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> I understand, but (most) people don't understand the advantage of I2P. They also want a simple-to-use GUI

I have a separate VM for i2p.

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> Most people aren't willing to RTFM

<n​ihilist:m.datura.network> obtaining a server / domain without any KYC and using them anonymously is like sipping on champagne amongst the people drinking water, IRREPLACEABLE

<n​t:4d2.org> yep

recanman, I2PD DOES have a GUI! The control panel in the browser!

the java client isn't so bad

for java

it's good for n00bs

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> Yes, you're right BlueyHealer. But it is not as well-known

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> Could be other reasons

I mean this GUI is pretty user-friendly.

Oh, that just reminded me! I have recovered the drive I stored the i2p machine's image on! LEZGOOO

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> I see it this way: Root zone servers are controlled by centralized authorities, so they have the right to censor whatever they want

I wish I could host an i2p or tor node but afraid.

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> Host snowflake or a bridge BlueyHealer.

The whole domain system, as well as cert system, is so rotten to the core. Yet I have no choice but to interact with it because I want my messaging to work...

recanman, still afraid.

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> I ran a bridge for about a year and a half and switched to a normal tor relay

Also doesn't Snowflake require Tor to be unblocked from your home in the forst place? I do need a bridge myself lol

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> Yes, you're right. It has inherent trust on the authorities

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> Not sure

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> Anyway, this is why they are called certificate AUTHORITIES

I will 100% run a Tor relay or two (although idk how useful that would be on a VPS) once it's not as dangerous. Now I am afraid of attracting attention by ANYTHING. I am an ingenue, I cannot risk scarring myself.

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> It isn't dangerous to run a bridge or even a node

<n​ihilist:m.datura.network> yeah it's centralised and subject to laws, let's enjoy the lack of regulation while it lasts lol, it wont last forever unfortunately

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> Only exit operators have ever received attention

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> Note that when running a node, your IP will be displayed on the website. If you are running it from home, you may occasionally get blocked from some websites that don't like tor

Depending on where and when you are, recanman. Here and now they can nitpick on anything. I am already afraid enough using Monero...

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> Sure, but unless obfs4 is broken, it isn't really possible to know

Yea, but still. I would rather play it safe, I am eaten away by anxiety as is.

Also, could a node ran on a VPS rather than your home still be useful?

<n​ihilist:m.datura.network> as long as it can handle the node, yeah i dont see why not

<n​ihilist:m.datura.network> meaning disk space, cpu usage, bandwidth

I mean in terms of diversity the network needs.

<m​mgen:monero.social> Even the cheapest VPSs can handle a Tor or I2P node

<m​mgen:monero.social> 1GB RAM is enough

<m​mgen:monero.social> Bandwidth is not a problem

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> BlueyHealer ultimately yes, but if they are ran on one provider like Hetzner, it contributes to centralization

Revuo Monero Issue 199: June 6 - 13, 2024. revuo-xmr.com/issue-199.html

mmgen, Yea, that I know

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> My node uses about 10MiB/s (that is mebibytes, not megabits)

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> My bridge was using 250Kbps

Looked at Porkbun's website: "We accept payments for products using cryptocurrency. We have migrated our crypto payments over to Coinbase's onchain payment protocol. Payments using crypto will no longer incur an additional fee and can now be processed in the same flow as other payment methods." Does that change the experience for the buyer? Would there be KYC?

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> I don't think coinbase payments need KYC

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> try going through the payment flow

I just am not yet committing and just seeing if this option fits.

Probably would end up transferring there if you can just pay normally from your wallet.

Biggest fear is phone number verification. Email would be real, that's for sure.

Coinbase commerce requires no verification they might blacklist explicitly sanctioned wallets but nothing else

At least from the customer end

Sanctioning wallets is so weird, as if you can't generate them on a whim. Do they sanction any wallet that receives a transaction from the person of interest too?

Not automatically. Exchanges using even the most rudimentary blockchain analysis will freeze the money probably. Or Metamask "won't work" with certain blacklisted addresses but I think there's probably like five lines of code you have to change to make it work

<l​ugz5gqbo:matrix.org> hello is this the right place to ask for help restoring an old wallet from seed?

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> Sure

<l​ugz5gqbo:matrix.org> i have a few old cold wallets that i'm verifying. i have been to recreate ~2014 era wallets in the gui, using the 24 word mnemonic. i have a few other seeds that are probably ~2017-2019 that i'm having trouble with. i have 25 word seeds for them, but they use the english list, not the english-old list. when i type them in the gui i get an error that electrum-style velidation failed.

<l​ugz5gqbo:matrix.org> so the 2014 seeds have words like "follow" "led" "smooth" and the 2017-2019 ones have words like "nitrogen" "apology" "theatrics"

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> github.com/monero-integrations/mone…ter/src/wordsets/english_old.ws.php

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> Here's the old english wordset

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> I'll write a program that will translate it, give me some time

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> from 1 wordset to another

<l​ugz5gqbo:matrix.org> is there no way to specify "use the new english wordset" to either the gui or cli?

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> I don't believe so

<l​ugz5gqbo:matrix.org> i'm curious how i ended up with the new wordset then

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> Did you find your balance?

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> It might automatically translate it, I have no idea

<l​ugz5gqbo:matrix.org> no i cannot recreate the wallet from seed for the seeds with the new wordset

<l​ugz5gqbo:matrix.org> i don't remember how i created them

<l​ugz5gqbo:matrix.org> the old seeds worked flawlessly

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> Here

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> Do you have php installde?

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> Do you have php installed?

<l​ugz5gqbo:matrix.org> i don't, but i can try to translate to python or something

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> That's fine, I can write it in python then

<l​ugz5gqbo:matrix.org> appreciate it!

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> This is using monero-python, but it doesn't have the old wordlist, I'll add it momentarily: paste.debian.net/hidden/80685e5d

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> github.com/monero-ecosystem/monero-python

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> As always, please read the code before blindly running it.

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> That should work, I included a test there as well.

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> You'll have to make a change to the monero-python code, let me write some instructions

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> Ah, debian pastezone says it is spam, I'll upload it somewhere else

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> github.com/recanman/docs/blob/main/…monero-convert-between-wordlists.md

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> lugz5gqbo: