anyone here?

<m​mxxx:monero.social> no.

<g​abe0776:matrix.org> I am only a fragment of your imagination

<3​21bob321:monero.social> I am 1 of 16 decoys

Imagine someone getting arrested because their transaction became a decoy connected to someone wanted lol. "We don't care it is a decoy, it happened from you".

How can I place an offer to buy XMR with fiat on haveno-reto, if I don't have XMR in the first place?

you have to have some monero (dont shoot the messenger)

how do I start without any monero?

<n​ihilist:nowhere.moe> you don't

<n​ihilist:nowhere.moe> you need some monero to use haveno

<n​ihilist:nowhere.moe> but yea once you have that initial 0.11 XMR you can buy more monero on haveno and you wont have that problem anymore

BTW looked at xmrbazaar you mentioned and there are no offers for fiat in my area... Kinda wish I could give one, but too fearful)

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Take a risk for all of us

No, I am too young and too fearful. I am too horrified of a potential arrest. There are either brave or stupid people more suited for risks than me - fully aware and afraid of losing my best years or bringing financial ruin to my family...

<3​21bob321:monero.social> yolo

<n​ihilist:nowhere.moe> another way is to buy some crypto (like btc) wherever, and then just swap it for monero

<n​ihilist:nowhere.moe> i should write a tutorial on how to get your first monero

<n​ihilist:nowhere.moe> it's a recurrent problem people face

nihilist, true!

<3​21bob321:monero.social> 1. hack a windows computer

<3​21bob321:monero.social> 2. setup botnet

<3​21bob321:monero.social> 3. wait for moniez

I wish Haveno had a section of "my first XMR"!

321bob321, exactly! And thus I am not ruining my life or traumatizing myself. I know that mist likely everything is going to be fine. But in the dangerous overall situation in the country is still a bit of a risk.

This makes a serious chicken and egg problem

<n​ihilist:nowhere.moe> that chicken and egg problem got inherited from bisq

<n​ihilist:nowhere.moe> (since haveno is a fork of bisq)

Yeah, that was the point.

so what are my options for buying monero if I don't know anyone in person? CEX with KYC?

AFAIK Bisq tried to address it in some upgrade?

I avoid KYC due to fear of leaks, ew. I think it may be enough info there to get a microloan in my name...

<3​21bob321:monero.social> ltc to xmr

<n​ihilist:nowhere.moe> just remain aware of what using a CEX implies. potentially chainalysis is aware that you bought 20 euros worth of monero

<n​ihilist:nowhere.moe> but from there, nothing, they can't know that you plan to buy 500 bucks off of haveno

<n​ihilist:nowhere.moe> but from there, nothing, they can't know that you plan to buy 500 bucks worth of monero off of haveno

Yeah, and in case of a Monero crackdown, you are an easier target. Also if someone needs to nitpick on you, it can be an easy excuse.

(that but my main fear are leaks lol)

Eventualities aside, I dislike the process

<n​ihilist:nowhere.moe> if you need deniability, follow this tutorial of mine (disclaimer i need to rewrite it) blog.nowhere.moe/opsec/anonymity/index.html

<n​ihilist:nowhere.moe> but in short you need deniable encryption, into which you put a VM for all sensitive activities, which can include a monero wallet

<n​ihilist:nowhere.moe> that way you can literally give your pc to an adversary and he can't prove that your sensitive encrypted volume (containing a whonix VM, with your hidden monero wallet let's say) exists

<n​ihilist:nowhere.moe> if you need deniability (in case of a monero crackdown, like you've mentionned), follow this tutorial of mine (disclaimer i need to rewrite it) blog.nowhere.moe/opsec/anonymity/index.html

Lol, that is definitely something not for my threat model)

The fears are not THAT big. But I understand how they can be)

do you have access to a kyc cex?

note: buying crypto from an atm or single use service, like cake wallet, might be more expensive, but if youre selling on haveno, the street price is about the same. so youre not taking any real losses

aka, xmr is really trading at 195, not 170

ofrnxmr, me?

goddamn. i guess no one reads reddit. i still have 78 connections

oh well. see-ya.....

I have not "read" Reddit actively since they shadowbanned me, lol.

78 connections to what? The proxy?

Probably all chainalysis lol

No one reads anything anymore :P

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Tldr?

naw to my node

i don't know how to measure the number hitting node.moneroworld in total

welp, the dns record is dead. these either must be previous connections or people harvested the IP at some point

<f​lidgrix:matrix.org> hello guys im developing a PoW tool by mining Monero

<f​lidgrix:matrix.org> to prevent ddos attacks and abuse of my irc server

<f​lidgrix:matrix.org> this way i both gain income to maintain my server and prevent ddos attacks

<f​lidgrix:matrix.org> my question is i made the code but can i integrate this to irc??

<f​lidgrix:matrix.org> if so how?

<f​lidgrix:matrix.org> my question is i made the tool but can i integrate this to irc??

<f​lidgrix:matrix.org> clients must mine specific amount of monero to join my irc server

how does one mine a specific amount of monero

Pool? P2pool? Or do you mean hashes

<f​lidgrix:matrix.org> yeah it uses nanopool

Terrible

<f​lidgrix:matrix.org> why

Because its the biggest pool

<f​lidgrix:matrix.org> this is just a proof of concept

<f​lidgrix:matrix.org> i mean can i integrate this abuse prevention system to irc

<f​lidgrix:matrix.org> it also generates income to sustain the server

Youll want a PPS pool if you want consistent pay

PPLNS requires/benefits from consistent mining

If you just want hashes and potential full blocks (ideal), setup xmrig-proxy with a custom difficulty

<f​lidgrix:matrix.org> i will fix the monero side, this is just a proof of concept

<f​lidgrix:matrix.org> im asking is integrating this to irc as a plugin possible

And allow connections from ips that submit enough valid shares

<f​lidgrix:matrix.org> if so how??

There is repo.getmonero.org/selene/primo which is designed for such things. Currently only implememted for web servers.

primo works w/o rpcpay?

I do not understand the question.

doesnt primo require the rpc-pay feature?

It requires node RPC, if that's what you're saying.

<f​lidgrix:matrix.org> I want an irc plugin that only allows access to server after specific amount of monero mining using a pool

nono, i mean the pay-for-rpc feature

It uses the same RPC, yes.

<f​lidgrix:matrix.org> so is it possible to add an extension this way to irc guys?

Says it requires monero-project/monero #5357

But 5357 was removed

Then maybe it doesn't work anymore.

That'd be a shame, it's the type of thing that was ahead of its time I think.

Thats what i was saying a month ago

Onion POW is nice, but monero POW for ddos is better

Idk why we removed it

Hmm, looks like it's still around in TF at least, and I merged the most recent monero release.

Hm

I think only the code that uses it in the wallet got removed, but the micropayment system is still there.

Mooo :P ^

Yeah. So true.

So, it should be feasible to hack the login plugin to use the primo system. It'd need a similar primo plugin to the web server one, but for the IRC server of choice.

We should revive primo asap

Then clients would be able to use the miner to mine to the IRC server, and would b eable to login once they mined enough.

<s​tarlingfarchecker:monero.social> What are your thoughts on this

<s​tarlingfarchecker:monero.social> dessalines.github.io/essays/why_not_signal.html

<b​asses:matrix.org> off topic

#monero-offtopic:monero.social

<b​asses:matrix.org> can someone invite me to offtopic room, thx

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> done

<c​rispycat:matrix.calitabby.com> what's the best way currently to get monero for cash?

<b​asses:matrix.org> haveno-reto.com

<x​apat1st4:hackliberty.org> i think it requires monero to even make an initial trade, for a deposit or something, no?

Yes.

<p​reland:monero.social> Question: does the --proxy monerod make *all* network connections for monerod go through the proxy, or only some/most?

<p​reland:monero.social> I’m seeing some conflicting information

just some

doesnt effect rpc, tx proxy, anonymous-inbound

not sure about dns stuff like --enable-dns-blocklist or checkpoints

or --check-updates

<n​ononynous:monero.social> P2P traffic from what I seen

<x​apat1st4:hackliberty.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…iberty.org/ayDiycGNRXjbyMynfpRmaeiw