synthticbird: I am wondering where I can do them, aka, what site can I use to do some? Or even just documentation in general.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> github.com/nahuhh/basicswap-bash

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> rojiro ^

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> If you specifically want to swap btc, theres unstoppableswaps

Thank you! What is basicswapdex? There is no link in the readme on that github and very little context

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Its an atomic swap dex

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Basicswapdex.com

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> ROJIRO OFRNXMR ALT CONFIRMED

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> The shilling hasn't started yet

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Rather suspicious that he asked "syntheticbird" to reply, but the response came from "ofrnxmr"!

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> its public knowledge that i am myself

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Please verify

Anyone have a running tally of all the confirmed ofrn alts? I've been lurking for half a year and it's already a looong tuple

<u​nderline:digitalprivacy.diy> Why

<u​nderline:digitalprivacy.diy> wired.com/story/trump-frees-silk-ro…s-ulbricht-after-11-years-in-prison

<c​rispycat:calitabby.net> the one trump order i stand behind

the following are the conformed alts of ofrn......

ha - I would have bet a substantial amount of money on the orange monkey never pardoning ulbricht.

<u​mask777:decred.org> oh shit donny followed through

<u​mask777:decred.org> glad Ross is out

<u​nderline:digitalprivacy.diy> Yea

<u​mask777:decred.org> hope he squirreled something away for a rainy day

<c​rispycat:calitabby.net> will he pardon snowden though

<p​reland:monero.social> I doubt Snowden will ever get a pardon

<p​reland:monero.social> It’ll be interesting to see what Ross does now that he is free

<p​reland:monero.social> I predict there is going to be some actually fire documentary series coming out in the next couple of years

<c​rispycat:calitabby.net> upgrade his opsec to start

<p​reland:monero.social> Lol

<p​reland:monero.social> Hey now he gets to see all of the tech people that have clowned on him the past decade 😂💀

<u​mask777:decred.org> probably sell his BTC stash on Haveno 🤑

<p​reland:monero.social> Well….if we suddenly see all Monero liquidity dry up….on a *Monero* platform…we probably know what happened

<p​reland:monero.social> I doubt that he does anything like that

<p​reland:monero.social> At least not in this decade

<u​mask777:decred.org> yeah i'm just shitposting

<i​mprevisto:matrix.org> fucking hilarious

<u​nderline:digitalprivacy.diy> Podcasts

<g​rop3r:matrix.org> Streams

<i​mprevisto:matrix.org> cdrom

<l​ucidlynx:envs.net> Podcasts sponsored by VPN providers

<a​riel74:matrix.org> I need help, can someone tell me the algorithm to mine monero

RandomX

<q​uebous_pringleton-699420:matrix.org> Monero is RAD!

<wearethelifersyetagain> as they say, monero is the only cryptocurrency

<u​nderline:digitalprivacy.diy> Pluuug

<u​nderline:digitalprivacy.diy> reddit.com/r/pics/comments/1i7aadn/…ounder_ross_ulbricht_leaving_prison

<l​za_menace:monero.social> that website is fucking cancer

<l​za_menace:monero.social> but yeah, lfg, crime is legal again boys, ross is free

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> $TRUMP to the 🌜️

<l​za_menace:monero.social> this feels like the mother of all bull runs starting

<p​laiwanone:matrix.org> Gday

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> hi

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Hi

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> cryptography is a hoax

<p​laiwanone:matrix.org> summon her

"bull runs"?

what is this, cryptobro general?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I prefer horseruns

note that i use cryptobro as a derogatory for people who see cryptocurrencies as stocks or something like that to bet on

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Whats a cryptosis?

female version of that

<wearethelifersyetagain> um, you would be happy if graph go up right

<wearethelifersyetagain> xd

It's fine if it's slightly deflationary, but a "rollercoaster with extreme airtime" would be concerning because this disincentivises using it as a currency.

^

i don't know who you are Cindy but will you marry me?

i don't know who you are

<h​ardhatter:monero.social> But she will find you

we have our whole lives to learn!

<h​ardhatter:monero.social> Sounds more like a disease

let me guess

you're doing this for tax benefits?

citizenship?

what are "taxes"?

<h​ardhatter:monero.social> Oh he’s a keeper

not a he but thx bby :*

then who are you?

i ask myself the same question every day

<h​ardhatter:monero.social> Do you get a different answer back every day? 😵‍💫

ita_metes: how can i marry you if i don't even know your gender

<wearethelifersyetagain> i installed arch linux, so i'm definitely atleast not straight as an arrow lmao

every "girl" on irc is a tranny

<wearethelifersyetagain> .

<wearethelifersyetagain> >.<

<h​ardhatter:monero.social> Shit I guess I’m gay now

<wearethelifersyetagain> not like thats bad or anything xd

it is bad

<h​ardhatter:monero.social> Yea arch is cool

<u​mask777:decred.org> great_taste loves checking genitals at the door lol

papers please

except pull down your fucking pants

you see, there's no way a girl is interested in monero and shit

it's probably just a guy LARPing

<h​ardhatter:monero.social> Sigh

<h​ardhatter:monero.social> *unzips*

<u​mask777:decred.org> you got a license for that thing? ;)

<h​ardhatter:monero.social> Shit am I being watched??

<h​ardhatter:monero.social> I knew the cia was monitoring my genitals for evidence of WMDs on my property

defending the 'rights' of trannies is a favorite sport at the company

<u​mask777:decred.org> ah yes, the CIA is well known as a defender of human rights

yes

waterboarding? torture?

they are just trying to defend your rights

of course the 'rights' of trannies are not human rights at all - that's the point

as2333: what are the rights of those you call "trannies"?

that you disagree with?

human righs, life, liberty, property. Tranny 'rights' don't belong in that category.

again, can you like

explain what are "tranny rights"

i really am confused what it includes

ask the tranny nutcases, not me

you don't know what it includes?

and yet you find disagreement with it?

<h​ardhatter:monero.social> The right to bear cocks

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> "tranny" word detected

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> its offensive you must comply to the law

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> its le bad

<h​ardhatter:monero.social> Or maybe that’s beastiality rights

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> (it's really pejorative for nothing pls avoid)

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Cindy, fwiw I'm also confused about wtf trans rights are human rights really means? They don't have any more rights than any other humans

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> this make no sense

well, maybe i'd like to think they mean like

right to have meds?

or something

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> OOooooh

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> maybe

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> if that's the case then lmao it will never happen

like being able to buy and have meds

without intervention

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> sounds like a good idea with zero side effects whatsoever

you say this and like

you know that the majority of monero users probably use it to buy illegal drugs

lol

i'm cool with it tbh

i don't give much of a fuck

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Cindy im part of the people who believe government and tyrannical organization, that drugs are bad and that Monero shouldn't be represented by its illegal use

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Cindy im part of the people who believe government are not tyrannical organization, that drugs are bad and that Monero shouldn't be represented by its illegal use

yes

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> sorry i just killed you with the audit

monero shouldn't be represented by its illegal use

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> edit*

<h​ardhatter:monero.social> 🤭

but i was joking with that lol

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> haha

like holy shit, if trans people wanna buy meds, who am i to judge them

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Trans wouldn't receive so much hate if their activism wasn't about kids

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> if you talk about kids, parents shows up

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> buy meds if you want but don't make it so that my kid think he should take at any doubt he might have

hmmm i guess

<u​mask777:decred.org> what tf

<b​asses:matrix.org> off topic

yeah off topic

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> moderators once said that #monero is just another offtopic channel

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> multi-threaded

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> but yeah i'll stop

<h​ardhatter:monero.social> Choosing to do something that compromises your health, especially if you’re young, because of psychological discomfort or issues is sad though

<b​asses:matrix.org> agree

<b​asses:matrix.org> but I always hear good use of Monero

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> well from their pov it's sad that they are accused of doing such. And from hater pov, they are just putting themselves into the victim blanket to fill like they are worth something.

<u​mask777:decred.org> this whole convo reads like one channer talking to themselves

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> duality of man

<b​asses:matrix.org> so idk

basses: yes good use of monero

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I miss the r/monero kebab posts

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> it was so great

let me tell you, if we could like

<u​mask777:decred.org> the only people making shit about kids are the ones legislating genital checks in schools

make those online pharmacy sites accept monero

<u​mask777:decred.org> how very libertarian

we would be seeing more usage from these people

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> umask777: lmao what's that

umask777: exactly

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> i've already see na bunch of meme tell me its not true

<h​ardhatter:monero.social> Hell yeah brother

<u​mask777:decred.org> "i support freedom and that's why every highschool girl needs to be groped by the gym teacher"

<h​ardhatter:monero.social> Well hold on now

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I can't i'm being groped by the gym teacher

i don't get why libertarians are the ones limiting others' freedoms because of the "kids"

or "trannies"

<h​ardhatter:monero.social> He’s holding on apparently

it feels very ironic

<h​ardhatter:monero.social> Where are libertarians doing that?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> yeah needs to be more precise

<h​ardhatter:monero.social> You’re probably thinking of what Americans think libertarians are

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> yup

<h​ardhatter:monero.social> Aka conservatives who don’t know what they believe in

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> MAGA vision

trump feels ironic

<h​ardhatter:monero.social> The Classic case of everyone conflating authoritarians with libertarians

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> hot take: trump is a criminal

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> i know i know

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> very controversial indeed

"i support freedoms, so i'm gonna ban those transgender people from serving in the military yet again"

because of what?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> but

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> thats republican

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> not libertarian sir

hm

wasn't trump in some event with libertarians?

that's why he pardoned ross?

i like to assume he is, in addition to being republican

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> no

ah

well i stand corrected

<u​mask777:decred.org> donny's a salesman, he'll tell whomever what they want to hear

<u​mask777:decred.org> in true american fashion

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> np Cindy. I once thought watermelon was a brand

remember when donny was a democrat

<u​mask777:decred.org> remember when he said twenty years ago if he ran he'd do so as republican because they're rubes lol

'serving in the military', means murdering children for wallstreet profit. No doubt trannies have the 'right' to do that.

<u​mask777:decred.org> taking bets on the primary genre of porn on as2333's computer

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> as2333 where do you come from ?

<m​ark:chat.nicecrew.digital> It's just like any other drug use or auto destructive behavior, I believe most Monero people are libertarians at heart and do find it sad but wouldn't prevent people from doing what they choose.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> my brain need to do pattern association

what do you mean, where do I come from

as2333: do you like

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> as2333 what continent/country?

<h​ardhatter:monero.social> Ah yes, the freedom to join a nation states’s military

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> if you wanna say

I was born and live in argentina. What about you

i don'teven know how you manage to figure out a way to bash on "trannies"

because "murdering children for wallstreet profit" is what many people did

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> as2333 born and live in europe

mark: holy shit, that's RIGHT!

that's the point of monero, freedom!

and privacy

<b​asses:matrix.org> enought

<b​asses:matrix.org> wtf

yes, enough

love how many people in the privacy coin channel demand identifying information from other users

def not glowie behavior

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> ita_metes I've always assumed to be a CIA agent back in 2023 when I explained to people on r/monero that intel ME was just a conspiracy

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I'm proud to spy on monero users

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> and will continue to do so

" intel ME was just a conspiracy"

lawl

that's a whole new level of idiocy

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Monero Offtopic

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> If you paid attn, youd know the genre already

backdoored hardware is at least more on topic than trannies

<h​ardhatter:monero.social> Yea that’s pretty much what I think. Except a lot of people also just don’t understand the biochemistry well enough. Plus side effects in general across pharmaceuticals are undermined. So relatively to “safe” medicine it seems insignificant to people. Although even relatively to most drugs under similar urgency of care I’d say it’s not safe for young people

so how do monero users deals with backdoored hardware?

deal*

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> By not trusting the hardware

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> Use hardware wallet so an attacker will need to use more than one backdoors?

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> Or use airgapped wallets

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> Get AMD hardware and pay people to reverse engineer PSP (it's a lot easier than intel ME to do, and it already did get mostly done for Zen1)

<u​mask777:decred.org> i thought anything goes here or is that just when talking about da jooz?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I remember a post on r/gamingcirclejerk turning into war because members of the subreddit were claiming that hormone blockers had zero side effects. Many have explain in comments that it was both completely stupid and wrong, at best naive and at worst purposeful disinformation.

hello is this the krusty crab?

couldn't a hardware/airgapped wallet generate preprogrammed private keys?

ravfx can psp be disabled?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Here as in #monero? No, only monero topics

<h​ardhatter:monero.social> Nah it’s supposed to be mostly directly related to xmr on this channel

<u​mask777:decred.org> funny

<m​onero.arbo:matrix.org> good lord, do any of you actually know a trans person?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> #monero-offtopic for non-monero related goodies. Still has to follow libera CoC

monero.arbo: i do!

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> thx ofrnxmr

<u​mask777:decred.org> nah they'd need to leave their basements

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> So no tranny, joo whatever stuff is allowed there either

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> can discuss trans just don't say the bad words

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> nor scream for their death

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> you aren't retarded are you

so 'libera' has a 'CoC' dictated by the CIA - what a surprise

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> as2333 Yes I wrote it

monero became /pol/ in one big fucking topic shift

<b​asses:matrix.org> LOOOL

can we like

stop

<u​mask777:decred.org> "became"? it's always been like this...

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> move to offtopic folks

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> what are you guys going to do when fcmp++ testnet go live

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> for Zen1, if you run old uefi, you can fsck the keys after boot to render psp unusable (prevent the OS to talk to PSP).

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> Only thinkg Zen1 PSP seam to do is to take the system on (do the memory training and that shit then bring up the cores) so that part still have to run. But then it only have facility for security stuff (encryption things, RND, etc etc). So by preventing the OS to communicate with PSP, you just won't have access to these features.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> gonna test ?

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Run

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> thx rav

or better yet

use RISC-V!

you don't have to worry about some bullshit

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> Good thing with PSP is that's a ARM core inside the ryzen

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> So one can extract the relevents bit from the ROM easily (look for arm opcodes)

<u​mask777:decred.org> quick everyone post large blocktext with acronyms to bury the fact

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> and reverse engineer it

rav: this is the dumbest thing i've seen AMD do

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> RavFX, known attempt yet? Do we know if PSP is devil?

so thy spent money on not just the x86 license

but the ARM license

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Cindy: at this point i'm inclined to believe amd engineers made it on purpose

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> From Zen1 reverse engineering of PSP, it is not malicious.

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> At least again, for Zen1

i came here to talk about the technical aspects of monero

but ended up staying for the political off-topic talk

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Good job Cindy

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I reassure you its pretty rare to talk about political stuff

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> for more often technical discussion i invite you to go over #monero-dev #monero-research and #monero-community

well i'd like to talk about how to use the multisig APIs

i guess i will

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> Synbhebird (no paper, maybe too hard for a cat)

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> youtube.com/watch?v=bKH5nGLgi08

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> [36C3 - Uncover, Understand, Own - Regaining Control Over Your AMD CPU ]

y'know i've mostly learnt how it works from haveno's source code

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> thx

i'll be making something new with this :3

ravfx do you have a source for reverse engineering of psp and it not being malicious?

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> The 36C3 video I linked

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> I think you can find the papers some programs to mess with it too

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> * papers and some

oops sorry I missed it my bad

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> github.com/PSPReverse/PSPTool

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> PSPReverse also contain a few other interresting things

thanks!

ravfx I'm halfway through the talk - so apparently the psp firmware isn't encrypted, and further, they somehow have code execution on the psp? The psp runs unsigned code or what?

ok, the thing is 'hacked'...

<b​asses:matrix.org> when ross will tweet Monero XMR ?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Never

hey, this is joe biden here

nothing to sell, just bragging

hello people of #monero!

<wearethelifersyetagain> meow 🐱

meow

meow

<u​nderline:digitalprivacy.diy> Hi

hallo

<wearethelifersyetagain> hey :)

whatsup gamers

<wearethelifersyetagain> all goes well

nice