<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…oad/xmr.mx/ffCeOOzoyLsChclZcLdcLBsz

I bought a vps, some coffee grounds(delicious) and tons of attire/stickers. Have you seen monerica williamfargo?

only thing you really can't buy is rent/real estate/utilities--most essentials require sticking with fiat cash

just as intended sadly....

<m​ark:chat.nicecrew.digital> I like to buy silly stuff from MoneroMarket and XMRbazaar.

<i​amthelizard:matrix.org> anyone here read "Hijacking Bitcoin" by Roger Ver? highly recommend... is not strictly related to xmr but if you're already familiar with monero you'll see how it connects

<i​amthelizard:matrix.org> prepaid cards, vpn subscription, and liquidate into fiat through non-kyc otc if I need to use it purchase everyday goods and services

hello

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Tried to donate to a project this morning. Bro had no idea how crypto works. Someone told him to use Revolut bitcoin integration. Send donation, 20 minute later Revolut account got locked down

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> This is the future.

LOOOL

hello, joe biden here, i have nothing to sell, just bragging

syntheticbird: this is what you get for trusting banks to manage cryptocurrencies

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Cindy: I don't trust them, unfortunately the guy i wanted to donate did and I don't blame him. He is broke and don't have time to go understand what cryptocurrency are nor how they work. Bro copy pasted his BTC address and asked "what is that?"

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> we have a long way ahead of adoption

i had to learn how cryptocurrencies work because banks here were so dysfunctional

<b​asses:matrix.org> same with PayPAl

i couldn't put my money in without them getting hacked and it disappearing like a sick magic trick

while they tell me they won't do shit about it

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Seems ready for mainstream use

syntheticbird Did he unlock the account? Revolut is trigger happy for crypto scammers, maybe they thought your bro was a victim of some scam

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> sech1 he can't do anything and have to wait a few hours for it to be unlocked upon review

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> update: Revolut decided it wasn't good and it would need further details from owner. Process is within 1 to 4 business days

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Yes ladies and gentlemen you heard me right. Sent a btc transaction to someone t oget his bank account frozen for 4 days

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Based

<b​asses:matrix.org> what happens if I sent XMR?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> they don't receive xmr unfortunately

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Sounds like a "them" problem

<s​gp_:monero.social> Where'd your BTC come from

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> ofrnxmr (jk)

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> swap provider (won't say which one but they aren't giving tainted btc)

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> U sure?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> If its not like, changenow or fixedfloat, or is some self custodial one like exch, wizard etc, good chance that they are giving gained btc

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Tainted

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Tainted can just mean "not from regulated cex" like, bisq coins

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> its one on the list

exch 100% gives tainted btc/ltc. I had problems with them and I don't use exch anynmore

<b​asses:matrix.org> any exchange that prioritize privacy (for real) have tainted coins

maybe send to a non custodial wallet and then send from there?

.shrug

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Send to burn addr 🔥 /s

usually you'd have a mixer for shit like this

but mixers have been too inefficient

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Mixers == instantly tainted

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> If i piss in your lemonade, is it still lemonade? Nope

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> very elegant

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> very elegant

<s​iren:kernal.eu> #monero-scat

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> OH NO

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I DIDNT SAW IT

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> You called?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> ❤️ siren

i'm done

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Hi cindy

I was trying to write a very elaborate joke ofrnxmr and you just cut me

congratulations

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> update: Got the frozen guy to install Stack Wallet

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> good ending

can I use stack to send montero to my bank account?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> nioc only to Stack Bank LTC accounits

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> nioc only to Stack Bank LTC bank accounts

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I meant Ltd

damn, just bought LTC :(

<s​iren:kernal.eu> Is the name "Metronero" stupid?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I think its a lot better than like.. everything else

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> and i'm not just dickriding, i honestly think its one of the better names out of crypto services

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> x.com/Serpent_OS/status/1886844564176056470

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> SerpentOS now accept XMR

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> (It's a super upcoming linux distribution)

<u​ser9219:matrix.org> hello

<u​ser9219:matrix.org> Im using feather wallet but just download the full blockchain on monero GUI for using my own node, trying to manually connect to this node, how does it work ?

<u​ser9219:matrix.org> its just the IP address:18081 ?

<u​ser9219:matrix.org> it say user:password(of the full node?)@IPaddress:18081

<u​ser9219:matrix.org> But all the list of node to connect showing what it seem monero address in tor

<u​ser9219:matrix.org> It doesnt work doing what it say

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> 127.0.0.1

<u​ser9219:matrix.org> thanks lemme retry

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Yes, if you have a oassword on the node (not wallet) then you'd enter it as `user:password⊙10:18081`

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> If you dong have a user/pass (probably dont), then its just `127.0.0.1:18081`

<u​ser9219:matrix.org> ohhh appreciate !

<u​ser9219:matrix.org> it work !!!!!!!!

<u​ser9219:matrix.org> thanks :)

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Np

<t​:we2.ee> what is the consensus on cake wallet these days?

<x​mrpilled:matrix.org> i use it and like it, idk its pretty good.

<p​reland:monero.social> I use it and I see some issues with it, but I use it anyways

<b​asses:matrix.org> No perfect xmr wallet on mobile, need some competent dev to develop one that is secure, private and with no bloat.

<p​reland:monero.social> Tbh if cake removed the reliance on internal servers for connection to Monero, I’d be more fine with it

<t​:we2.ee> I guess. Have tried monerujo before

<p​reland:monero.social> I remember around a year ago their servers kept dying for days at a time and I couldn’t access my funds without using the command line on a computer. Thank goodness I had another device (and my livelihood wasn’t reliant on immediate access to my address)

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> mind defining "reliance on internal servers for connection to Monero"

<p​reland:monero.social> I haven’t; I don’t remember if they have an iOS app

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Yeah i mean, just use a different node. Cake wallet nodes are default but optional. (tho tbf even your node would have been dying due to spam)

<p​reland:monero.social> They had some internal servers at Cake that were required to be up for the wallet to access nodes (you can manually set nodes, but these servers weren’t user changeable or viewable). I don’t think they ever changed this, though they could’ve (since again, this isn’t exactly shown to users afaik)

<p​reland:monero.social> The internal servers went down (maybe it was during the spam attack? I think it happened before/after it too though)

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> > They had some internal servers at Cake that were required to be up for the wallet to access nodes

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Never heard of it, and honestly sounds sus af. cc ofrnxmr

<p​reland:monero.social> Yeah it was very sus.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> > They had some internal servers at Cake that were required to be up for the wallet to access nodes

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Never heard of it, and honestly sounds weird af. cc ofrnxmr

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> weird*

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> like i struggle to believe it

<p​reland:monero.social> I think I had asked about it back then and I wasn’t given a response other than “yeah it exists, we are working to get them back online 👍”

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> im sure they talked about the nodes

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> anyway if you say so, if someone else told me the same i know you were right

<p​reland:monero.social> Let me see if I can find anything about it

<p​reland:monero.social> Yeah that’s fair

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Its wrong

<s​gp_:monero.social> If anyone uses TrueNAS Scale 24.10+ and wants to help test a Monero app (currently just with monerod), please let me know!

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Preland, cakes "servers" are 1. Fiat api 2. Nodes 3. Cakepay 4. Bullshit service bulletin

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> None of these 4 are required to use cake

<p​reland:monero.social> They shouldn’t be; but it had caused downtime

<p​reland:monero.social> Heck let me see if I can find a screenshot

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Literally didnt

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Literally ofrnxmr said literally

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> The only downtime is with those services. Your own node will always work

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> literally literal

<s​gp_:monero.social> I'm not aware of any time using your own node with Cake wouldn't work

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> You can disable all of those. You can delete cake node, disable fiat api, disable cakepay, disable service bulletin

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Cake having disruption to their own infra has 0 bearing on using your own node

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> cuprate node*

<s​gp_:monero.social> Sure you wouldn't see fiat prices but everything else should work just fine

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> edge wallet on the other hand.. won't connect to your lws if edge is down

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> **preland is typing...**

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Blocking connections to edge stops edge from functioning

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> bro it's been 4 minutes, calm down

<s​gp_:monero.social> btw, lws and onion-explorer are planned for this as well, among other things

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> preland types slow. Need to do rapid, annoying msgs like ofrn

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Poor sgp can't have beta tester because of you

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> shame

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> shame on you ofrn

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Floooodd

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> @sgp post in Monero Community Dev

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> hopefully #monero-community:monero.social will also be enough

<p​reland:monero.social> Ok I’m going to describe exactly what happened.

<p​reland:monero.social> I opened up Cake Wallet. The upper right bell icon had a dot on it. Clicking on it revealed a notification that said something along the lines of “due to network congestion, we are currently seeing issues with our internal servers for Monero. Until this is resolved, you may have momentary connection issues with Monero nodes.” This message was changed at least 3 separate times,<clipped message>

<p​reland:monero.social> effectively saying the same thing. The upper bar that shows connection status would say “connecting”. It would never fix this. Changing the nodes would not fix this. Additionally, the nodes I tested (including Cake’s own node) *were usable by monero-wallet-cli on a separate computer*. I was confused by this and asked why this was happening, thinking that I needed to reinsta<clipped message>

<p​reland:monero.social> ll Cake or smth. I was told (maybe by Vik? I was pretty new to the community so I don’t remember who) that they used internal servers as intermediaries between the mobile phone and the node, and those servers had went down, but would be up “very soon”. That was all I was told. After around two weeks the issue was resolved and no other issues like that have occurred since afa<clipped message>

<p​reland:monero.social> ik

<p​reland:monero.social> Upper left* if you care

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> The bell icon is fuckin stupid

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> you are stupid

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> now seethe

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> The last time i got into a mud slinging match with cake was over that stupid ass icon

<p​reland:monero.social> That was just an indicator. I couldn’t access my Monero (albeit only abt 40$ worth at the time)

<p​reland:monero.social> Lol

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> It was added during the spam, and it called hone at launch, no way to opt out

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I remember cake wallet implementing this

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I also remember ofrnxmr throwing tantrum on a github issue

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I also remember yasabi vs ofrnxmr war drama

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> its just a glorified rss feed so cake can send status messages to users about the state of their infrs

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> so much nostalgia

<p​reland:monero.social> I mean, if it’s gone now then it’s all good

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Its not gone now

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Its opt-out now

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> > maybe by Vik? I was pretty new to the community so I don’t remember who) that they used internal servers as intermediaries between the mobile phone and the node, and those servers had went down

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> cringe

<s​gp_:monero.social> I don't think the description of the "intermediary" servers was accurate. I think they were referring to the nodes still

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Vik don't understand how monero work

<p​reland:monero.social> Ikr; the first time I ever saw a message by ofrnxmr and rottenwheel was them going localized nuclear on some random CCS proposal on the git 😂

<p​reland:monero.social> I would’ve thought that, except their actual node still worked at the time (somehow)

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Intermediary servers are just the global node proxies

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> aka Load balancer

<p​reland:monero.social> I would know; I used their node to make a transaction while the mobile wallet wasn’t working

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> The bell was 100% about cake infra. Nothing to do with personal infra(nodes)

<p​reland:monero.social> That’s what I was thinking—still sketchy that it wasn’t mentioned though

<s​gp_:monero.social> Cake's node isn't a single node. There are at least 6 behind the same IP, geo-balanced and then load-balanced

<s​gp_:monero.social> at the time of the stress, there were probably issues with routing. So maybe some connections got through while others didn't

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> The bell was just a manually typed rss feed bs

<p​reland:monero.social> Cake also couldn’t use other unrelated nodes—they could be used by Monero-wallet-cli as well

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> It was issues with rpc eating resources

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Native cluster support in cuprate before end of 2025. Dropping the promise here

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> say goodbye to load balancer

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Cake ddosed themselves with background sync causing resyncs repeatedly

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Add that to the p2p flood and cake node couldnt keep ip with demand

<s​gp_:monero.social> I can't fully explain that but I think a restart, or a retry, or waiting, could have fixed that. But it's hard to speak hypothetically about an old issue :/

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> user error

<p​reland:monero.social> Lol

<s​gp_:monero.social> the mempool flood was what really exposed the ssd limitations

<s​gp_:monero.social> not the background sync, that was ultimately minor afaik

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I used my own node throughout the flood w/o issue. The only issue i had was noticing my ip leaks to cake servers bcuz of the stupid bell

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Background sync is minor when there is no massive txpool

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> When txpool and blocks are big, rpc uaes a LOT of resources

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Rust inbound

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> And big blocks caused bgsync to fail more often

<p​reland:monero.social> Memory safe ddosing

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> S/fail/corrupt wallet

<s​gp_:monero.social> yeah but that's not specific to background sync, the traffic wouldn't have handled the foreground sync either with the mempool

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> bg sync caused resyncing from scratch at a very high rate

<p​reland:monero.social> Yeah to be clear I’m not claiming that Cake took down their stuff as a sort of sting operation or anything—it was probably just targeted

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Like... a 50% chance of resyncing everyday

<s​gp_:monero.social> afaik background sync wasn't even working that well at the time. It was spotty at best

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Yea. It corrupted wallets like 80% of the time

<p​reland:monero.social> That time when Monero users collectively got a severe case of Alzheimer’s

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> It was very reliable in makibg me sync 30gb everyday

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Time to buy read centric ssd and 1tb ram ?

<p​reland:monero.social> I think I made the stupid mistake of trying to sync a full node from scratch during that time

<p​reland:monero.social> Bandwidth limit reached in less than 18 hours lol

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Sgp, what cake ultimatelt did was was use master and slave nodes. The slave nodes dont maintain high peer counts, and only sync ftom thr master node

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> The slave nodes serve rpc, the master does not

<3​21bob321:monero.social> K8s when ?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> This prevents rpc from killing the masters ability to sync

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Ccs is closed

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Rip

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Cake should look at that

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/utxobr-monero-k8s-operator.html

<s​gp_:monero.social> Monero node peers? I thought they already kept those quite low. Maybe they further tweaked that

<s​gp_:monero.social> the emergency solution at the time was best summed as "more ram"

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> that was part 1

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Clear cache

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I worked w tanner for part 2

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> (while throwing 💩 at tux for the service bulletin)

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> #multitasking

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Moneroworld had no issue !

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I frfr didnt appreciate the service bulletin calling home on my local-only wallet, added after an update

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…ero.social/KSXoeGpvTHATaGtGyuyjcexn

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> retrieved this artifact from twitter

<s​gp_:monero.social> kovri is coming any day now

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> TIL hyc worked on NASA space shuttle

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> i2pd hated us

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Soon ™️

<b​asses:matrix.org> very outdated

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> yes, that's why i said "artifact"

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Went to space and came back older

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Im still shocked by the zeromq argument

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> there are broker protocol that are so much better

<s​gp_:monero.social> I think one of the Monero devs at the time really liked that and was outspoken about it. I don't know who actually wanted to use it

<p​reland:monero.social> Truth; can’t wait to integrate it into Monero-wallet-gui

<p​reland:monero.social> My goodness did I not know what I was getting into with that bounty

<p​reland:monero.social> Thankfully I’m almost done with it

<s​gp_:monero.social> Very cool

<s​gp_:monero.social> I'm excited to see that

<p​reland:monero.social> Ngl I’m excited too

<s​gp_:monero.social> I recall making some UIs for that _years_ ago (totally outdated by now)

<p​reland:monero.social> For the first time in history, it will be *easier* to connect to I2P for a service than it is for Tor (probably won’t last like that but oh well 🤷‍♂️)

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> "exchange traded"

<p​reland:monero.social> At least I think it would be the first time

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> "quote"

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I dont think so. Gui and i2p havent changed much

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Poor GUI and Cli just fucking ask for polyseed support

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> is that so muchto ask

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> is that so much to ask

<p​reland:monero.social> You’d be surprised how the little changes have cascading effects

<s​gp_:monero.social> monero-project/monero-gui #2274

<p​reland:monero.social> Nice; can’t wait to look into it

<s​gp_:monero.social> hopefully it looks better than this :) That was meant to be a first take

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Not for hiw to turn something on or off

<p​reland:monero.social> I’m pretty locked down on my current design, but I’ll look at it and see what obvious feature I *still* failed to remember after a year of on and off work 😂

<p​reland:monero.social> For the user facing side yeah, it wouldn’t change

<p​reland:monero.social> Question: was this just a simulated markup or was it an actual modification? (Just referring to the UI, not the functionality ofc)

<s​gp_:monero.social> Simulated

<p​reland:monero.social> Ok, that’s what I thought, but I was just making sure

<p​reland:monero.social> To be honest it looks pretty nice

can i ask about p2pool here

<p​reland:monero.social> Probably (I know very little about p2pool)

all network freeze because of p2pool

i have only 4 peers but still freeze!

i have good internet speed so is not my problem

optic line

<p​reland:monero.social> Can you tell how much bandwidth p2pool is taking up?

<p​reland:monero.social> It could also be a regional issue, though I wouldn’t know how that would affect things either

i cant measure because all network freeze and i just kill process

i cant log after and i kill from server admin tools

anyone else

i'm frustrated

<p​reland:monero.social> You can look around online, though I assume you’ve already done that. If I were in your position I would try to figure out a way to manually throttle the networking of p2pool (don’t know how to do that off the top of my head; you’d have to look that one up) and see what happens to p2pool when you give it a sane bandwidth limit. While you are trying that, you can wait for som<clipped message>

<p​reland:monero.social> eone who may actually know what’s going on to give you some more specific help

how to throttle?

i have a second interface but i dont know how to force p2pool to work only with the 2 interface

hi