<r​ami04:matrix.org> 🙄

<k​ufecure:xmr.se> what is the current hash rate of QUBIC

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> 0 H/s

<t​esttank:matrix.org> Correct im wrong but i think that after the underling tech the most important thing about Monero it’s the price, we as a community should stop saying we dont care about price.

<t​esttank:matrix.org> THE HIGHER THE PRICE THE BIGGER THE HASRATE

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> I normally don't care much about the price but it's true

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> > price, > hr

<t​esttank:matrix.org> !!!!!

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> I normally don't care much about the price but it's true

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> higher price, higher hr

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> fking mutrix markup

<t​esttank:matrix.org> We shouldn’t have to worry about a fucking shitcoin wanting to take over Xmr, i truely believe Monero has the potential to be the most important asset of our age, but that can’t be true unless we are safe from 51% attacks. (Not quibic but state level attacks)

<t​esttank:matrix.org> I wish Dr Daniel Kim could be our Saylor

anyone use monero-gui on arch linux?

<f​ijxu:nadeko.net> why?

i'm just wondering if anyone is having any issues with it

I'm using a hardened kernel but it runs fine but visually isn't responding well.

i'm switching to feather wallet now

<k​ufecure:xmr.se> Higher price higher hash rate

where can someone pay to have a protonmail account registered it wont let me and its pissing me off lol

<3​21bob321:monero.social> wdym

<3​21bob321:monero.social> with monero?

preferably yeah

i cant register an account without having to use another email address and that seems really stupid when its supposed to be a privacy based email account

might be my connection or browser but dont care just wannt pay someone $5 or something to do it lol

<s​bt:nope.chat> That's weird. I registered an account over Tor without any email or phone verification.

<s​bt:nope.chat> You can buy a temp number from kycnot.me, that will definitely work.

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> Me too.

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> If I remember it have like a few day timer on where you have to wait to use the service, except if you pay. Maybe that have changed.

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> Also registred from tor

Last time I tried a month or two ago, I couldn't register on Tor either. Maybe it's luck?

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> Well, we are talking about many years ago. Maybe they changed there policy

This would suck.

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> They can detect tor so I dont thing they would treat x tor user differently for y tor user

<1​7lifers:matrix.org> no. its either, wait, add an older proton acc as recovery email, or pay

<1​7lifers:matrix.org> to discourage spam from new accounts and proton getting blacklisted

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> Yeah, thats what I remember

I thought more about time being the difference rather than an exit node. Also, once in a while you do get very lucky and get an exit node that wasn't yet marked by sites as such.

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> Same for tutanota afaik

Wouldn't any non-Proton work as a recovery email?

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> Good question

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> Disposables might work or no (if it have a newish domain name)

And if it's a disposable, can you delete it later so that it doesn't stay as a backdoor to your account?

<1​7lifers:matrix.org> you all trying to game the system ._.

No, we're just using the Internet.

Okay, just tried it, and if you access it via Tor, the registration just errors out, not sure it behaves like this all the time.

<m​odul8:matrix.org> i would be happy to pay for a email provider that you can pay per email and have multiple sub-emails. and dont tie phone or other email to it. but it has to be reasonable.

<1​7lifers:matrix.org> i have bulletproof email on the .su domain

<1​7lifers:matrix.org> lel

Don't .ru/.su need KYC for registration? Or there are resellers?

<s​vntr:matrix.org> Good morning! I have Element installed on Linux mint, and it seems to be working. When I go to the Matrix HQ room, I can not send messages. It says something like "some of your messages have not been sent. retry or delete?" When I retry it does the same thing, and when I delete the message disappears. Can anyone tell me what is going on?

Tried Element recently, seen the CPU usage, deleted.

<s​vntr:matrix.org> m-relay Is there anything that works better?

<1​7lifers:matrix.org> neochat and nheko are good desktop clients

<b​asses:matrix.org> please continue in #monero-offtopic:monero.social

<s​vntr:matrix.org> Thanks Rando!

<s​tfstf:matrix.org> hi,

<s​tfstf:matrix.org> are there any foss monero wallets for android?

<1​7lifers:matrix.org> cake wallet

<1​7lifers:matrix.org> available from github

I wonder why they removed their F-Droid repo, even though they had one? They are on Accrescent, though.

Tried Accrescent recently and deleted it. Not only is it way too minimal, not even listing basic info like the app's website or git repo, but they don't even distinguish proprietary apps from open ones! Why isn't there any warning??

<1​7lifers:matrix.org> whys everyone saying f-droid repo removed

<1​7lifers:matrix.org> they didnt!

<1​7lifers:matrix.org> fdroid.cakelabs.com

<1​7lifers:matrix.org> still online!

<1​7lifers:matrix.org> add to your fdoid and see latest version of cakewallet!

Huh, must've missed it.

Looked at it now and it's just not listed on their website's main page. Weird.

<1​7lifers:matrix.org> they dont want us to know about the secret repo :3

<1​7lifers:matrix.org> xd

That's just odd!

<1​7lifers:matrix.org> it's insider knowledge(tm)

So, Cakelabs.com is indeed something that's linked on the wallet's main page, but it doesn't list F-Droid either.

<1​7lifers:matrix.org> cakelabs are behind cakewallet

Yeah.

<s​bt:nope.chat> Fdroid sucks. Poor security practices. I would rather use Aurora or Obtanium.

I am aware of F-Droid's shortcomings, but still prefer it. Like, if I got Simple Mobile Tools from Aurora, I'd have got the dreaded update that enshittified them.

<1​7lifers:matrix.org> ausorastore = play store

Also some apps only release there, and some that are paid on Play Store (Osmand full version, Conversations) are free on F-Droid.

<1​7lifers:matrix.org> aurorastore = play store

<1​7lifers:matrix.org> only use if not available on github or fdroid

Same.

<1​7lifers:matrix.org> 🫂

Also, while it's not a big deal since I don't use it for much, Aurora can randomly deny your login because the shared accounts they used got rate-limited.

<1​7lifers:matrix.org> never happens to me xd

So if not F-Droid, I'd go for Obtainium, and Aurora is only for a couple apps that are on neither.

<1​7lifers:matrix.org> 99/100 cases it works in a single launch

17lifers, I just went to check whether Aurora lists whether the app is proprietary, I was not let in for this reason XD

<s​bt:nope.chat> Get pwned then. Their build infra is so outdated, numerous vulns in code signing software and prob way too many other things. Wireguard creator himself doesn't trust fdroid, whose IQ level is higher than all of us.

Accrescent is also weird - not only does it allow proprietary apps, but they don't mark them AT ALL.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Accrescrnt is trash

<s​bt:nope.chat> Daniel micay also advises against fdroid. Ask any real security researcher. They'll tell you the same.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> micay is a cuck

<s​bt:nope.chat> Far from it. Your argument is trash. Giving me a thumbs down just shows you are full of shit

<s​bt:nope.chat> Fuck off.

He and GOS in particular have some... absolutist views. So while I love GOS, I disagree with some of their philosophy.

<s​bt:nope.chat> Of course you do. Imagine neglecting actual experts and being so ignorant.

<s​bt:nope.chat> You are just showing how stupid you are.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Accrescent is trash. Bluey already explained some of the shirtcomings - like listing proprietary versions (w/ no indication), having no app description, even dead apps like rimusic. And accrescent uses a different signing key, so even for proprietary trash, the apks incompatible with standard release channels.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> its only promoted because micuck doesnt get along with fdroid devs

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Would rather push proprietary trash on ppl than to stop acting like a 4 year old

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Funny. It wasnt even 24hrs ago that you did this, here in this channel

I mean, I know F-Droid has its shortcomings, but I like what it provides. The bar for their warnings is a bit too low imo (like being dependent on a single service), but it is explained so you can judge whether it's actually a bad thing or not.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> While it leaves some to be desired, its still higher than obtainium, accrescent, aurora, (who all provide no info)

<s​bt:nope.chat> You are not even responding to the actual stuff that matters. Remind me, when did I recommend Accrescent?

I like Obtainium at least.

<s​bt:nope.chat> Also you are the one being childish. Calling someone a cuck just because you disagree is pathetic. Have some decency.

The "no info" part doesn't bother me because you go there from the apps' repos in the first place anyway, you don't discover appps through there directly.

<s​bt:nope.chat> Learn to speak before you give out any pretentious advice.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> ^

<s​bt:nope.chat> Yes, you are still not responding to this.

<b​asses:matrix.org> ???

<b​asses:matrix.org> it is literally in alpha

<s​bt:nope.chat> Ban him please. This kind of behavior shouldn't be tolerated.

<b​asses:matrix.org> im not a mod lol

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Bro wanted to attack moo, and defend micuck

<s​bt:nope.chat> Whoever is, should do it.

I only mentioned Accrescent as an aside notice, and because I mentioned it before.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Reads 3 year old reports about fdroid and thinks he's a genius now

<b​asses:matrix.org> stop

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> No

<s​bt:nope.chat> Lmao. You are the definition of stupidity. No wonder you are disrespecting people.

what the hell is going on

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> (Bluey, rando was talking to me btw)

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> basses* was talking to me

<s​bt:nope.chat> Go to hell. You deserve to get pwned.

maybe this will help pbs.twimg.com/media/GxMGrYXXMAABnys?format=jpg&name=large

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Yeah, going to get pwned running proprietary stuff from accrescent and avoiding floss software from fdroid

<s​bt:nope.chat> Typical freedumb.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Example: invizible pro is only fully free from fdroid. Unstopable wallet as well. Keepass dx is another

<s​bt:nope.chat> So your only argument is stuff is free? LMAO

Free as in cost versions compared to the "main" ones, or free as in freedom? F-Droid has examples of both.

<s​bt:nope.chat> Bro you are a leecher. You want people working for free? Devs don't deserve to get paid?

<k​ufecure:xmr.se> i am updating Cake wallet from Acrescent. Is it safe?

sbt, no, wouldn't mind donating to some devs (and have done so).

<s​bt:nope.chat> It is. I personally use aurora store because it's been around for a while.

<1​7lifers:matrix.org> bug reports are valid contributions yk

But now it's a bit hard to pay directly and the income is not what it used to be.

17lifers, code contributions too

<s​bt:nope.chat> That depends. Most are not even detailed and do not follow-up.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> no, its that they cant slip in google libs for payment channels

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> bluey: as in freedom (which also often comes as cost because you cant add proprietery payment channels to the apps)

<b​asses:matrix.org> he means free as free software (libre etc)

<s​bt:nope.chat> You all are delusional.

basses, ye, got it - it's just that there were examples of both.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Aurora is just google play store.

<b​asses:matrix.org> also not all f-droid apps are "free" some contain non-free assets, libraries, service f-droid.org/en/docs/Anti-Features

<1​7lifers:matrix.org> anyone can make their own fdroid repo, good way of app distribution

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> accrescents cake has lagged behing many versions recently, and cant be updated any other way because of the signing key

<b​asses:matrix.org> ik some stuff about f-droid, they are not perfect

17lifers, yeah, and it's convenient to have your apps updated in one place.

basses, I don't mind some of the "anti-features", but it's always listed so you can decide for yourself.

<k​ufecure:xmr.se> Thanks. So, I should use f-droid to update cake?

<s​bt:nope.chat> No. Don't use it.

<b​asses:matrix.org> as I said, accrescent is in alpha stage, comparing it to f-droid doesn't make sense

<s​bt:nope.chat> He's stupid. Don't listen to him.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> You'd have to uninstall the accrescent version if you want to update from fdroid, obtainium, or aurora/play store

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Fdroid, obtainium, and aurora are all the same signing key

<s​bt:nope.chat> Use aurora store over Tor or VPN. It has no problems.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Its google play store.

<b​asses:matrix.org> he can, no mobile monero wallet is reproducible afaik, so it doesn't matter that much tbh.

<s​bt:nope.chat> Go ahead. Listen to these dumbfucks.

<b​asses:matrix.org> I wish someone develops a modern secure android monero wallet

sbt, it has a problem of still being the Play Store.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> cake's fdroid repo is self-hosted, and doesnt rewuire google play to approve their updates.

<s​bt:nope.chat> They already distribute apk from site, get it from there.

Also the fact that if I wanted to install something, I would not have been able to because Google sent Aurora's accounts to timeout.

<s​bt:nope.chat> Or use obtanium.

<b​asses:matrix.org> aurora is crappy, I would use obtanium if possible

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Obtainium relies on github (microsoft) or fdroid 😂

<s​bt:nope.chat> How about listing what's crappy instead of giving your opinion?

Your choice of words in this conversations makes me suspect you're a troll.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Its google play store. Requires google's approval

<s​bt:nope.chat> Microsoft is major funding for Linux foundation too.

<s​bt:nope.chat> Remove your tinfoil hat.

<b​asses:matrix.org> if you used it, you would know, (the anonymous mod)

What?

<s​bt:nope.chat> Shut the fuck up. I am done anyway.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> my point is, why would i download frok microsoft or google, if i can download directly from cake??

<b​asses:matrix.org> multiple other sources too, idk what you are trying to say

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> That obtainium isnt hosting anything

<1​7lifers:matrix.org> based

has there ever been a genuine account from nope dot chat?

<1​7lifers:matrix.org> everyone go celebrate

<1​7lifers:matrix.org> eeeee

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Just like fdroid (for cake) isnt hosting anything

<1​7lifers:matrix.org> genuine? do you consider bro a bot

<1​7lifers:matrix.org> lol

genuine in intent

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> imagine insulting moo, defending micay, and not bringing your flame suit 🙃

*mooo

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I didnt want to ping

<e​ddie:oblak.be> Are we 51% attacked yet?

<e​ddie:oblak.be> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…d/oblak.be/dKNJlSCCymYmOIsUZbZLqxfM

<e​ddie:oblak.be> Lol, anticlimax

attacked? The network HR hasn't moved :)

I started up my winter heaters for this?

<g​ingeropolous:monero.social> lol how are they being ddosd?

<b​asses:matrix.org> cope?

<b​asses:matrix.org> they just gave more users a sale temporary

Gave more users a sale? What do you mean? What exactly were they doing?

Lower XMR price? But it's not them, the whole market is down

<j​ack_ma_blabla:matrix.org> fud articles everywhere did help

<l​ordx3nu:matrix.org> I think the tornado cash case has an impact too

<l​ordx3nu:matrix.org> Regarding price.

<e​ddie:oblak.be> In what sense?

Just highlighted the importance of privacy of transactions?

<l​ordx3nu:matrix.org> The ruling I think could lead to short term price action. Either positive or negative depending on the verdict.

<l​ordx3nu:matrix.org> Holders could be seeing the possibility of a negative ruling and hedging against that.

<e​ddie:oblak.be> That Cfb is such a fraud

<e​ddie:oblak.be> They were like "we're going to have 51% on August 2".

<e​ddie:oblak.be> We'll it's august 2 and he hardly has 20%.

<e​ddie:oblak.be> Now he tweets "let's see what we can have by 31st" 🙄

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> 2 more weeks

<e​ddie:oblak.be> Making bold claims and then not delivering, that's what I call a fraud.

<d​uggavo:matrix.org> Trying to attack another coin just to attract investors, that's what I call a scam.

<l​ordx3nu:matrix.org> All hail qubic 🧎‍♂️

<p​reland:monero.social> 4 hours in they have 27%; they tend to have their hr drop throughout the day but then increase until it is above the old high water mark; my guess is that they reach somewhere between 30 and 35% by next noon UTC

<b​asses:matrix.org> he already failed lmao, killed any trust into his any other ~~scams~~ projects

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> Oh, nothing append, what a surprise.

<e​longated:matrix.org> They changed it to 2nd-31st August 🤣

To be fair, they said this already earlier. It's not that they extended *today* because their hashrate only hoovers around 30% or so right now.

hello people

preland they are currently around 25%, judging by the blocks they found

50/199 blocks since 12:00 UTC, which is ~25.1%

now 50/200 blocks, exactly 25%

<p​reland:monero.social> My guess is it’ll drop to below 20% in the next couple hours before rising up again

I can't get protonmail to register a free account for me with a VPN or Tor, soooo aggravating. Any of you guys that says you're able to register one on vpn or tor wanna make $5 registering me one?

I tried it on Tor just today, it just endlessly errored out after I chose a plan.

yeah its driving me nuts. after a few hours i got to where it accepted my account details and then when i put in a secondary email it said abuse detected BS.

I wonder if this is going to go away after some wait?..

i don't care how its registered if someone wants to make a quick $5 lol. i just want an email address that i can access over tor or vpn.

I have VPN on all the time on my router so im cooked lol

<b​asses:matrix.org> cmon guys, how is that relevant to Monero 🤦

I'm paying monero.

And Proton may be accepting monero soon.

I've heard they don't do it because it's harder in terms of compliance and they'd rather not bother.

This was very recent, so I'm hanging onto hope haha.

Would be nice.

Would be interesting to see!

<1​7lifers:matrix.org> tgey say in the summer roadmap, but summer's ending soon

<1​7lifers:matrix.org> they say in the summer roadmap, but summer's ending soon

Didn't know that!

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> [#monero-offtopic:monero.social](https://matrix.to/#/%23monero-offtopic:monero.social) for the registration talk

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> p2pool, is there is a way to stop the thing to ban my workers?

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> my high hash rate workers keep getting banned for some reason

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> I only see that parameter about bans -> --stratum-ban-time N

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> I don't want to restart the p2pool thing 32 time to figure it out considering it's going to nuke 6Mh/s

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> I am going to redirect the stuff that get banned constantly to supportxmr then :D

<e​ddie:oblak.be> use moneroocean or pool.xmr.pt or smth, spread the hashrate a bit 😅

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> Fine, I try moneroocean

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> Seam to hold with a test load. No idea why p2pool don't like high Hash rate

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…oad/xmr.mx/vACiuZGkoKBFwBYtpqqrmCyd

<e​ddie:oblak.be> there's p2pool and p2pool mini right?

If p2pool bans your workers, it means they submit invalid shares. Or something else happens, you should check logs - p2pool prints ban reason in logs

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> Like that : WARNING 2025-08-02 21:17:54.1351 StratumServer peer 10.x.x.x:12264 banned for 600 seconds?

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> I probably have to restart it to change the log level.

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> Moneroocean don't complain about the shares

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> Number go up and it just work.

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> While p2pool almost insta ban

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…oad/xmr.mx/EKpwtUdIcxDxlkbefpEFuxQt

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> 232/0 so far

you can change the log level in the console, no need to restart

"loglevel 4" is the command

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> checking

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> sech1 : invalid JSON request (unknown method)

that's weird

do you use xmrig-mo?

don't use it with p2pool

it's not compatible

xmrig-mo sends too loooooong login request, and p2pool doesn't like it

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> I see

<s​tonekell:matrix.org> Hello all! I am brand new to crypto. Starting with Monero. I am trying to verify hashes before downloading the Monero GUI wallet. I have run into a snag while following the verification instructions posted on the wallet dwnld page. is there anyone willing to help me troubleshoot?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> maybe xmrig-proxy?

stonekell we had someone the other day with this problem - they where comparing hashes of an old version. the current is 0.18.4.1, are you comparing the correct hashes / versions?

xmrig-mo -> xmrig-proxy -> p2pool should work, but you can just use a regular xmrig with p2pool

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> I will look to setup xmrig-proxy, thanks

<s​tonekell:matrix.org> i am simply following the posted instructions... i am not code / terminal /crypto savvy...

<s​tonekell:matrix.org> it has to do with the "wget -O binaryfate.asc" command line as posted in the instructions... I get a "missing URL" and a "No such file or directory" bash reply in terminal...

<e​ddie:oblak.be> can you link the page where you found that instruction?

because there is no URL in "wget -O binaryfate.asc"???

<s​tonekell:matrix.org> getmonero.org/resources/user-guides/verification-allos-advanced.html

<e​ddie:oblak.be> oh I see

<e​ddie:oblak.be> ```

<e​ddie:oblak.be> wget -O binaryfate.asc

wget -O binaryfate.asc raw.githubusercontent.com/monero-pr…aster/utils/gpg_keys/binaryfate.asc

<e​ddie:oblak.be> raw.githubusercontent.com/monero-pr…aster/utils/gpg_keys/binaryfate.asc

it's one long line

<e​ddie:oblak.be> you need to treat the 3 lines as 1 full command

probably page formatting broke it

<e​ddie:oblak.be> ```

<e​ddie:oblak.be> wget -O binaryfate.asc raw.githubusercontent.com/monero-pr…aster/utils/gpg_keys/binaryfate.asc

<e​ddie:oblak.be> ```

<s​tonekell:matrix.org> eddie: i am copying and pasting the provided info as a single command line... again, I am not terminal / crypto savvy here, I am green behind the ears and all thumbs... your patience please...

<s​tonekell:matrix.org> I have terminal open and ready...

<e​ddie:oblak.be> don't worry, sech1 was saying the same thing

<e​ddie:oblak.be> this doesn't work?

<s​tonekell:matrix.org> i am running a system 76 Linux... Ubuntu based

<e​ddie:oblak.be> that shouldn't matter to much

<s​tonekell:matrix.org> no that did not work, as it was posted in the instructions. is there a dash missing / off ?

<s​tonekell:matrix.org> here is the total of my terminal window:

<s​tonekell:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/iOQIQjRDsvFnslqolZbsJwTT

<e​ddie:oblak.be> ok , I think you have carriage returns (enters) which break the command

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> Yep, that's the problem

<e​ddie:oblak.be> ```

<e​ddie:oblak.be> wget -O binaryfate.asc raw.githubusercontent.com/monero-pr…aster/utils/gpg_keys/binaryfate.asc

<e​ddie:oblak.be> copy this line and try again

<s​tonekell:matrix.org> YES!!!!!!!!! That worked.

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> do you really need the -O parameter considering it's exactly the same name you pull?

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> wget raw.githubusercontent.com/monero-pr…aster/utils/gpg_keys/binaryfate.asc

<s​tonekell:matrix.org> ok, I am going to continue with these instructions having learned that much. I will check in if i need assitance from here. THANK YOU!

<s​tonekell:matrix.org> ok question... verifying signing keys DID match, then proceed to Import signing key, I get a msg: no ultimately trusted keys found. is it ok to continue?

<s​tonekell:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/KmXvrnMerPBZSgFsHSuLyxuF

<e​ddie:oblak.be> Better double check it on the internet, but I think it's fine

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> I think you can "ultimately trust it" with your own keys

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> To make it simple, you don't know if that key is the good key, you just download it on the monero-project git but there is no way for gpg to know if someone swapped it for another one.

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> So you can then "trust the key" using your key, to tell the thing that yes, it's a trusted key

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> but you don't have to do that do do simple verifications

<s​tonekell:matrix.org> so, i should just continue with following the instructions from here? I don't know how to use / get my own keys...

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> yes

<s​tonekell:matrix.org> thnx!

<s​tonekell:matrix.org> Question, If I want to use Gupax to mine Monero, Should I just set up my wallet in simple Mode? do I need a lot of processing power for advanced mode?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> You have to set the key as trusted manually

<s​tonekell:matrix.org> 👍️

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> gpg --edit-key '81AC591FE9C4B65C5806AFC3F0AF4D462A0BDF92'

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Then `trust` and set a trust level. Recommended in docs is `4`

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> docs.getmonero.org/interacting/veri…s/#1-import-lead-maintainer-pgp-key

<s​tonekell:matrix.org> Can I use a separate program like Gupax to P2P pool mine Monero, if my Monero wallet is set up in advanced mode / solo miner already?