<plaiwanone:matrix.org> GM

Hello!

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anyone else mining?

sure

sweet, good talk.

anyone here have thoughts on qubic?

in the end it will make us stronger

How so? Finality layer? change of algo?

i mean the network is still just about as centralized as it was. and as for making us stronger....

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are you showing me in the end

they are orphaning blocks, stealing honest miners emissions, delaying transactions. if we just stay put and odn't do anything, i don't see how we will come out stronger.

what? showing you the end?

you are showing me what is happening now

I am saying that people are working to be stronger against this

I am not saying what the solution will be

yes, in the last 720 blocks that is how many have been orphaned. source: moneroconsensus.info

i don't think blind faith is going to help.

you are showing me what is happening now

people are working, not blind faith

you still haven't told me how they are working.

mining for 8 minutes, nice

i had to reboot. i don't wanna share my share my mining wallet but i can assure i've been mining for quite sometime.

ty

have you been following the channels and reading the discussions?

not the noise but the signal

i just got back into IRC, been following along on reddit trying to avoid anything from the bigger crypto sites.

I don't follow reddit

#monero-research-lab is a place to read but not talk

i'll check that channel out. i'm honestly pretty stupid when it comes to the finer details and subtleties of XMR and crypto in general.

talking there is for the serious / knowledgeable people

#monero-reseach-lounge has recently been active with both signal and noise

is qubic still happening?

meetings are held in -lab every Wed 1700 UTC

oh ok

agent314: they haven't gone away.

this is a quiet time for activity here

what is the real danger of cubic? like have there been cases of a coin like this just losing all its value?

i'm assuming if someone holds >50% control they can just give themselves money essentially

and that means xmr becomes worthless

not quite, they will get all the emissions, would be able to censor transactions, etc

nioc: sorry, what's going on? quiet time?

here on irc / matrix

this time of day

Cat is enjoying the heat from the mining rigs

how many kh/s are you pulling if i can ask?

is there a link abouto quiet time so i can see what it means and when it's happening?

i'm thoroughly confused

I mean many people are sleeping rn :)

you can still talk here lOL

I usually sleeping at this time

what q is doing is selfish mining 3x/week not constantly

that is where the orphans come from and this time 1/2 the time they were the ones being orphaned

they try new strategies

all that hashpower is expensive to rent tho.

i wonder how much of it they actually control vs rent.

they get people to mine for them by paying extra and they boost the HR which also costs

they have $ from prior scams

and probably some investors for this one

whats the end goal tho? if they drive the price into the ground, collecting the emissions isn't going to be profitable unless it is legit a slash and burn squeeze everything we can from it while it dies kind of situation

some say publicity for their coin, it's at least a part of it

Cat is willing to give up her rigs for me :D

time for bed

this is not the first time that there has been an attack on monero but this is a more serious one

short term solution is being tested rn which will give time for a long term solution

i need to read more about the finality layer that has been propsed

supposed to use POS in some way shape or form.

short term includes some centralization which is why it is not a long term solution

GN

good night

i know i could get about 1.4 more kh/s out of my desktop if i stopped using it, turned offf the lights, and pretty background and shut down my containers.... but i don't want to lOL

hahah mycotrip

did you tune everything to the max?

i usually build xmrig from scratch on the system to get the most out of it

ill talk about it more i g2g

yea i get the full 8.5 kh/s out of my i7-12700 but its also my main rig. with everything running and me using it still pull 7 kh/s

mycotrip: do you have a videocard?

i found that i can squeeze a few kilohashes by getting the card to mine as well?

I do. a 5070 actually. i haven't tried mining with it tho as i have always heard it wasn't really worth it.

it's not gonna be as dramatic of an increase in efficiency as going from BTC CPU to BTC GPU but it is a computational device and it can be used to give a little bit of a boost

<17lifers:matrix.org> y'all seen dis? decrypt.co/335594/crypto-influencer…ailed-for-3-5m-cryptojacking-scheme

mycotrip: you might get like 4-5 kilohashes out of it

maybe 3-5

you'll need to build an xmrig cuda plugin

let me see if i can find it, i had a full install and build script from complete zero to xmrig and xmrig cuda somewere

i've rented a bit of a hash power lately, convinced my self i was doing my part for the cause LOL

yeah i did similar thing with lots of rented machines

its late here. i'm gunna rest. gn

kk ttyl

ill trry to find that setup script

(because i need it too lol)

sick, you can PM it to me.

thanks!

sure

<danny:sutcliffe.xyz> will monero-chan show up irl if I start mining monero?

<explodius:matrix.org> theres a chance

<explodius:matrix.org> only if you find a block solo mining

<danny:sutcliffe.xyz> ah ight thanks, will get to it

<17lifers:matrix.org> @danny:sutcliffe.xyz: i hope 😭

<17lifers:matrix.org> +1 bucket list item ._.

<alexandre:uii.pt> what is this POS everyone keeps talking about, already searched but didn't fully understand it. How is it better than POW?

<marioob:matrix.org> Hi ppl. I was thinking to give more hashing power to home miners rather than server CPU owners.

<marioob:matrix.org> Can RandomX be reimplemented to use only 1MB L3 cache per thread instead of 2MB?

<marioob:matrix.org> There are lots of CPUs with 1MB L3 cache per thread which mine with half the power the CPU is able to deliver. E.g: All the APUs from AMD.

<17lifers:matrix.org> @alexandre:uii.pt: its less violent

There is pos and pos based finality layers.

pos is basically similar to pow (/me dodges angry people) except the probability to get a block is in relation to the amount of monero you have instead of the amount of hash rate you have.

<elongated:matrix.org> x.com/c___f___b/status/1961714271433150954 can someone put a bounty , unnecessarily creating rifts

pos is being also talked about as a building block for a finality layer, but aiui it's not an inherent requirement for one.

<17lifers:matrix.org> without pow, u cant xmrig

There are variations, but this is the basic idea.

It's also possible to have a pow and pos hybrid.

pros and cons include;

pow is more accessible: anyone with a computer can start mining, though they'll get very little monero to show for it, and most likely at a loss.

pos means an attacker will lose more by attacking, assuming the value of a coin will go down due to the attack

<17lifers:matrix.org> nobody mines for dirt

<17lifers:matrix.org> lmao

pos means once you 51% the network, you keep it forever, whereas with pow, other hashes can come online (though why they would after a 51% attack in unclear)

the cost to attack the network is thought to be much higher with pos than pow

pos doesn't guzzle up energy

pos can't bootstrap

Others can add more if they can think of others

<alexandre:uii.pt> so... whoever has more xmr gets more xmr 🤔 > <incowgnito> pos is basically similar to pow (/me dodges angry people) except the probability to get a block is in relation to the amount of monero you have instead of the amount of hash rate you have.

<alexandre:uii.pt> hmm, i see, but if i understood, if you have a ton of xmr you basically control the network? > <incowgnito> pos means an attacker will lose more by attacking, assuming the value of a coin will go down due to the attack

<elongated:matrix.org> @alexandre:uii.pt: Are no coiners worried.

"whoever has more xmr gets more xmr" yes, it's funny how people fixate in this and can't think past the idea.

Everyone (who stakes) gets +N%, so there's no change really. The price goes down N%, so outsiders get the same % of the money supply for their bitcoin or fiat.

It's like constant devaluation.

It's like a constant stream of tiny devaluations.

"if you have a ton of xmr you basically control the network?" yes, it has the same 51% issue as pow.

<testtank:matrix.org> The goverment having big reserves of seized monero, would explain why the price 90% of the time goes down during US market hours

<testtank:matrix.org> It pumps during Asian market hours then dumps like clockwork

have you checked btc's rhythms?

it often follows NASDAQ

<ravfx:xmr.mx> There is some link between xmr and btc. Won't go into detail but I can use XMR as a BTC Move indicator

<testtank:matrix.org> To me it seems that Monero has the lowest correlation coefficent of all crypto, meaning that it’s price movement aren’t as dipendent from the overall market as other coins

<barthman132:matrix.org> Except there is actually an incentive for stake holders to not do a 51% attack in the first place. With qubic though there is no incentive for their miners to stop mining, because the success of monero is irrelevant to them. > <incowgnito> pos means once you 51% the network, you keep it forever, whereas with pow, other hashes can come online (though why they would after a 51% attack in unclear)

<syntheticbird> There is some link between the moon and xmr, I can't go into details but I can use an algorithms that compress random highly random data, and therefore blockchain into a singularity and proceed to quantum orbital simulations

<ravfx:xmr.mx> @syntheticbird: Please publish white paper

<syntheticbird> @ravfx:xmr.mx: Sorry this is top secret technology I can't share it. I can just say this is possible

<ravfx:xmr.mx> @syntheticbird: Sure, if you can milk it good to you.

<ravfx:xmr.mx> Same for trading algo that work. You leak them and they stop working

<ravfx:xmr.mx> Do we actually have an usable IRC bridge now?

<ravfx:xmr.mx> like we can DB irc people and they see our images?

<ravfx:xmr.mx> And have integrated sed syntax or something

<eddie:oblak.be> So this v0.18.4.2 version of monerod doesn't do anything against qubic, right?

ravfx new bridge is currently in a few channels

Coming to a channel near you soon!!

eddie correct

we need punish or perish

publish*

<user2570:unredacted.org> punish sergey

<ravfx:xmr.mx> nioc: What bridge is that, is it better than the matrix-appservice-irc

<stormyyy:tchncs.de> meownero

<stormyyy:tchncs.de> monerowo

ravfx oh, it's in this channel now :)

also in community and the monero research channels

<0xbatuhan:matrix.org> is xmr mining profitable?

Depends on your setup and power costs.

As all mining profit questions are. :)

It looks like getting onboarded with XMR without KYC is going to cost ~$150 due to minimum purchase amounts and markup. Is that generally the case?

Just checking my work before caving and uploading my face to Kraken

Depends on how you want to do it. There's a number of routes available, but most of them require you to have some crypto already.

Yeah

<elongated:matrix.org> redacted: DFX has good rate with no kyc upto 990 euro

uploading your face? lol

the one thing i've seen is buy LTC, swap LTC for XMR

Liveliness check for KYC, pretty normal stuff.

LTC doesn't have as much KYC

I was shocked how much KYC nicehash has these days :/ Miss the old "Slap in your BTC address and go"

it's all about the crappy crypto regulations

anti-money laundering

Yeh, some travel wallet thing or some crap out of switzerland.

Cindy_: Lol, well, my face is on the ID. Dunno yet if they're going to want a live video scan

where they map out your face

people buy some other normal crypto

where there's less KYC

and then swap it for XMR with another dealer

ah, didn't realize there were different levels of scrutiny

i do't know if that works

There's alot more markets that support non-xmr, and they tend to have lower KYC.

The main issue is washing your input coin before sending it through to something that deals with XMR because it's heavily tracked, and alot of the floating swaps don't like it.

What would be the consequence of that?

getting yourself blacklisted

Shutdown and possible denylisting of your cex accounts and ID. CEX's don't like things going to XMR.

oooh

They really want them to go to other CEX's, no private wallets if they could avoid it.

the order is not coming from the CEXs

it's coming from the governments

like the EU

Possibly fine if I get enough XMR to afford the cost of trade deposits on RetoSwap before they get mad.

True, sorry, I blame the CEX's in general.

But yes, it's the regulatory agencies pushing it on them that're the problem.

i think if CEXs wanted, they wouldn't bother with this shit

because it loses them customers

and gives them more crying ones instead

Probally, that's how it used to be. xD

less customers == less money to buy supply

<chaserene:synod.im> @eddie:oblak.be: Nothing will be done about Qubic. Sell all your Monero. Remember the black marble attack? monero-project/research-lab #119.

<chaserene:synod.im> There's been so much talk and discussion, yet no fixes have been implemented over an entire year later. I expect the same inaction to continue with mining centralization. Monero is a ticking time bomb that will explode at any moment now. Long time members like monerobull have already sold their coins, and this is clear evidenc [... too long, see mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/_8S0tbAKTUgzelY3 ]

<chaserene:synod.im> I'm chaserxy, and I've been involved with Monero for around 5 years now. After much contemplation, I decided to sell everything I had invested in Monero and walk away. If you're still holding on, I would advise you to consider doing the same.

<chaserene:synod.im> So many developers have been messaging me privately, saying that Monero is effectively dead. Some have already jumped ship and are moving on to projects like Zcash or Firo. I predict that we'll be seeing some big announcements soon.

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> bruh, stfu

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> I sold all of my monero a long time ago

<chaserene:synod.im> I know.

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> And i'm not testing DNS checkpoints, i'm just stalling until qubic gets 51%

<chaserene:synod.im> Qubic has already gained 51% of the hash rate, according to DataHoarder.

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Then we can go POS without any opposition

<chaserene:synod.im> During one of their marathons.

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> oh shit, i thought this was a DM

:D

<chaserene:synod.im> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: I don't support PoS, but the fact that so many people have chosen to implement one suggests how severely flawed and dead Monero has become.

<goodboy:matrix.org> > <@chaserene:synod.im> I'm chaserxy, and I've been involved with Monero for around 5 years now. After much contemplation, I decided to sell everything I had invested in Monero and walk away. If you're still holding on, I would advise you to consider doing the same.

<goodboy:matrix.org> I'm spook169 and i also have been invested in monero for "years". given the situation where the highest mkt-cap, most known anti-establishment crypto-money-sys is now mostly price controlled by a psuedo-derivative (who's venue doesn't dislose underlying holdings) would also recommend that all participants in this room should succumb to the fud i am spreading.

<chaserene:synod.im> If you don't know chaser, you don't know Monero.

checkpoints prevent long reorgs

<goodboy:matrix.org> mostly bc my handlers will never give me field-duty if i don't get something for them from the abs terrible failure that is my ability to communicate online.

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @chaser:monero.social ?

<goodboy:matrix.org> @chaserene:synod.im: imagine a team of spooks who most have never seen speak in here before..

<chaserene:synod.im> DataHoarder: DataHoarder, I'm done talking. The conversation has gone on for far too long. Monero is dead.

they don't prevent 51%, but remove chaos

<chaserene:synod.im> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: My other accounts got banned for speaking the truth.

answering > 00:54:54 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> And i'm not testing DNS checkpoints, i'm just stalling until qubic gets 51%

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> I'm eating ice cream out of the container with a fork

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> A hard fork

Mmmmm. Hard forks.

<goodboy:matrix.org> @chaserene:synod.im: ur mam was dead after we finished up our date last week too.

<chaserene:synod.im> It's okay to be mad. I can understand the frustration.

I like the defeatist attitude, nothing will be done :D

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Nothing ever happens

lol

is it still a good idea to mine on p2pool?

<goodboy:matrix.org> imagine projecting "emotions" onto peopl on irc.

<chaserene:synod.im> I recommend buying Zcash to calm down.

is it better to mine on hashvault than not to mine atall?

<chaserene:synod.im> agent314: Sell and buy Zcash.

<chaserene:synod.im> Don't mine. The math doesn't work out.

<preland> I can’t wait for Monero to go the way of GRIN.

<preland> This is fucking chilling.

<chaser> guys, check the the Matrix account name: @chaserene:synod.im. this chaser is trying to impersonate me.

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @chaser: we know

<chaserene:synod.im> @chaser: This chaser is fake I can sign PGP proving its me.

<chaserene:synod.im> My accounts got banned and hacked.

agent314: yep, mine on p2pool

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @chaserene:synod.im: Please do

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @chaserene:synod.im: Also send nudes

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> I know what chaser looks like naked

<chaserene:synod.im> ofrnxmr all talk and scamming.

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @chaserene:synod.im: Talk isnt cheap

<goodboy:matrix.org> for xmr to be "ded" they're sure taking a long time to prove it.

are we getting attacked by dumbic?

<chaserene:synod.im> @goodboy:matrix.org: You'll regret not selling!

still?

<goodboy:matrix.org> imagine having perps that can't even push down the underlying despite a fud campaign 😂

<chaserene:synod.im> I'm going to tweet from my real X account to prove my account is the real one. Hold on. > <@chaserene:synod.im> This chaser is fake I can sign PGP proving its me.

agent314: the shorts for some people have to print

will the real chaser please stand up

<chaserene:synod.im> agent314: Yes and they won't stop for months.

01:01:07 <br-m> <chaser> guys, check the the Matrix account name: @chaserene:synod.im. this chaser is trying to impersonate me.

it's very visible on IRC :D

<goodboy:matrix.org> @chaserene:synod.im: why would i not "sell" i buy and sell all the time.

<chaserene:synod.im> x.com/chaserxy

<chaserene:synod.im> I tweeted.

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Jokes on you - none of us own any monero > <@chaserene:synod.im> You'll regret not selling!

Too many colours on my screen /s xD

<goodboy:matrix.org> @chaserene:synod.im: explain to me how it's "ded", go.

<goodboy:matrix.org> besides a narrative, go.

<chaserene:synod.im> I don't need to explain you'll see when the price drops to $0 after Qubic double spends.

did you tweet? :D

<goodboy:matrix.org> tell your handler i took at bath with his aunt while you're at it.

<chaserene:synod.im> DataHoarder: Yes do you see it?

my Cat calls the shots and she remains unconcerned, therefore we are not selling

<chaserene:synod.im> I'll post the link.

link the tweet. you might be being limited by X profile :)

Cats are the superior decision makers, this is true.

<chaser> @plowsof:matrix.org @banhammer:matrix.org I'm being impersonated by @chaserene:synod.im. please ban them.

<goodboy:matrix.org> @chaserene:synod.im: i don't need to explain that you predicting will definitely be wrong.

<preland> I’ve decided. It took me this long to realize, but it’s official.

<preland> I am going to release my rough draft of a proposed upgrade to Monero, intended to release post FCMP. The changes it makes are drastic, but necessary. Not just for this Qubic issue (which tbh isn’t rly an issue on its own) but for the deeper issues that make Monero unusable at any meaningful scale.

is qubic.org the official site?

<chaserene:synod.im> @chaser: Don't ban this is the fake chaser.

<goodboy:matrix.org> bc you clearly don't know anything about prediction, to be someone who predicts anything.

<chaserene:synod.im> plowsof I've been here for 5 years you know me well.

there's like a bunch of impersonators that ive seen or heard of them as being such on x

<goodboy:matrix.org> lmfao

<chaserene:matrix.org> @chaserene:synod.im: oh really? then who is this, you Qubic shill?

<goodboy:matrix.org> oh man. spooktown must be hiring like total dropouts now eh?

<chaserene:synod.im> @chaserene:matrix.org: I never said to buy Qubic.

<chaserene:synod.im> See you're the fake chaser.

i like this, this is like war energy

war war war war war!

lol

<chaserene:synod.im> I said to sell Monero for Zcash or another private cryptocurrency.

<goodboy:matrix.org> @chaserene:synod.im: wow you know what zcash is.

<goodboy:matrix.org> tell me mooar preaase

I was just about to do something and now we have comedy

<preland> Qubic will go to zero. As will Monero, if we stay the course of Nakamura.

<preland> I’m done playing pretend. Satoshi was wrong.

<chaserene:synod.im> Yes, the developers actually work there.

<goodboy:matrix.org> can you list all the "private cryptocurrencies"

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @chaserene:synod.im: Zcash has 75% dominance by a single pool

<goodboy:matrix.org> ahhh

<chaserene:synod.im> ofrnxmr just looks at nudes all day.

<goodboy:matrix.org> i get it!

<goodboy:matrix.org> it's not a droput, they're using shitty AI llms now 😂

<plowsof:matrix.org> but chaser monero.social or matrix.org

i'll sell my 0.12 monero over my dead rotting body, damn cubics lol

<chaserene:synod.im> @goodboy:matrix.org: I'm real.

<chaserene:synod.im> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: Zcash is switching to PoS real soon.

<goodboy:matrix.org> it's all about hodling the 0.66666666 xmr as a hedge

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @chaserene:synod.im: "that motherfucker right there is not real"

<chaserene:synod.im> I don't like PoS, but at least they're working on a proposal.

<chaserene:synod.im> Instead of all talk and no action.

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @chaserene:synod.im: How many more years of 20% dev fee b4 POS rug?

<chaserene:synod.im> This is why monerobull left.

<goodboy:matrix.org> ur man is switching to PoD real soon. she said too many "near dicks" been conning into dates on grindr. > <@chaserene:synod.im> Zcash is switching to PoS real soon.

who is this dumbass

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @chaserene:synod.im: You sound like mbll

but seriously is there like a blogpost somewhere that can summarize this for semi-new people

<chaserene:synod.im> I'm not that reddit mod.

chaserene is one of CFB's friends

<goodboy:matrix.org> imagine you got fudded by the fudsees

<goodboy:matrix.org> like a bish

are they just getting too much computing power??

I wonder who benefits by zec going to pos ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

<preland> PoS is not the solution.

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @chaserene:synod.im: I mean, you and mbll (soon preland) are the biggest "doomers"

<chaserene:synod.im> agent314: No need. Look at the top pool: miningpoolstats.stream/monero and how much hash rate they got. Sell before they get 51%. Simple!

will not sell :P

01:05:34 <br-m> <preland> I am going to release my rough draft of a proposed upgrade to Monero, intended to release post FCMP. The changes it makes are drastic, but necessary. Not just for this Qubic issue (which tbh isn’t rly an issue on its own) but for the deeper issues that make Monero unusable at any meaningful scale.

nice!

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @chaserene:synod.im: Look at zcash

<goodboy:matrix.org> @chaserene:synod.im: show "dev" dm chats here and we'll ping them to prove your claims

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @preland: What is

i got a lot of XMR, i will not sell lol

<goodboy:matrix.org> do that and we'll stop dating your mom en masse.

does this channel have any ops?

so where is the twitter link?

<plowsof:matrix.org> chaserene this is offtopic please take it to monero-research-lounge like usual

<chaser> @plowsof:matrix.org: the account @chaserene:synod.im is the impersonator. you can check the join dates.

agent314: this is happening on matrix side

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @chaser: He knkws

<chaserene:synod.im> @plowsof:matrix.org: monerobull is the one who spams there.

CFB is impersonating monero devs to get people to sell XMR

lol

<chaserene:synod.im> @chaser: PGP?

desperate qubic fans at least

<goodboy:matrix.org> @chaserene:synod.im: 's mom has lots too (of xmr), she told me she's never selling until her son graduates. i told her spooktown won't let him now

<datahoarder> post it, come on > <@chaserene:synod.im> I'll post the link.

<chaserene:synod.im> Cindy_: No I said not to buy Qubic.

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @chaserene:synod.im: Where is your pubkey

<goodboy:matrix.org> doo eeet

in #gentoo i would already be banned for life including my entire IP zone

<preland> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: SANE PoW.

<preland> Use PoW for one thing, and one thing only: measuring compute voting.

<preland> No blind length supremacy.

<chaserene:synod.im> @datahoarder: I will.

agent314: this is on the matrix side

<0xbatuhan:matrix.org> is anybody doing crypto jacking?

and oh wow

<datahoarder> You said you posted it. so you should have it already

<chaserene:synod.im> I'm done with Monero actually fuck you guys.

<goodboy:matrix.org> agent314: but openrc is gross; so yeah you should be 🏄‍♂️

hello

we don't miss you :P

<chaserene:synod.im> Chaser is out!

goodbye!

<chaser> I don't use PGP, you idiot, as my pinned tweet says, my reference point is my ENS (chaser.eth.link) and my dmap (dmap://:free.chaser). > <@chaserene:synod.im> PGP?

<datahoarder> Doesn't post link 🤡

don't let the door hit you dumbass

<plowsof:matrix.org> @0xbatuhan:matrix.org: if they are let me know as thats fucking illegal and not welcome

i feel like we need a monero that's not brigged to matrix

I usually monitor the IRC chat on libera.monerologs.net, however I just wanted to join real quick to say ignore the obvious guy baiting

He's looking for responses to post on twitter for Qubic

yes i know

ofc, Aaajww291

<goodboy:matrix.org> agent314: lol

is this channel like five nights at freddy's

because the spammers get a little quirky AT NIGHT

Just wanted to state the obvious, not to insult anyone's intelligence.

when the mods are ASLEEP

glad the new IRC bridge handled that well :D

<goodboy:matrix.org> Aaajww291: or, spook.

<goodboy:matrix.org> 💥

<goodboy:matrix.org> i'm insulted bigly.

mods always asleep tbh Cindy_, that was also brought up last MRL meeting

<goodboy:matrix.org> it's why i come here.

there's less mods so mostly the actions are for long term abuses

<goodboy:matrix.org> 🙏 please moonero, let them ban me.

<plowsof:matrix.org> agent314: was it #monero that was not bridged between IRC<>MATRIX for the longest time. the first few days people wanted it turned off again Lol

Aaajww291: thx

<goodboy:matrix.org> mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/aymDwiukxUnIIHoHRsuVRNGp.png (screenshot-2025-08-30_19-13-55.png)

i do not care

the big words here is "I predict that we'll be seeing some big announcements soon."

<goodboy:matrix.org> there's tons of room before "going to zero". stfu until there's movement ya narc.

this is literally qubic Discord mindset

there's no big announcement hype about monero or similar

it working for normies is plenty, and keeping to its principles

Have a good day everyone, and looking forward to see what the devs cook up to fix the selfish mining issue with Sergey "Chud" Ivancheglo and his weirdly amount of money to fund the hashrate.

why should i care about CFB or his friends coming here trying to get people to sell

when it just works :P

yeah they are surprised why our discord or irc is so quiet

see people are just using monero

they aren't usually speculating daily trades or trying to pull hype news

<goodboy:matrix.org> i personally think this is just the first test of a "more serious fud campaign"

<goodboy:matrix.org> but we'll see.

don't even know who does, or who runs nodes

I have seen a couple of people on their discord get bored and try to do stuff like this on their own

most normal people do not care about moonboy crap

or plan some raids on twitter threads etc.

boring

for most people, monero just works

i'm out here just trying to pay somebody like $5 without the state being invited to watch

no price hype or anything

<goodboy:matrix.org> the price is abs fine

<goodboy:matrix.org> that's why you can tell it's all bs

pamp eet!!

<goodboy:matrix.org> 💥

outside of this little circle or the crypto grifter land of twitter

nobody has heard of qubic

<cindy_:synod.im> Hi guys, can anyone tell me where to sell $500k XMR to USDT without KYC — it's urgent?

and many of them use XMR

<goodboy:matrix.org> look at the f$%-in chart > <@goodboy:matrix.org> mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/aymDwiukxUnIIHoHRsuVRNGp.png (screenshot-2025-08-30_19-13-55.png)

<cindy_:synod.im> It won't be soon haven't you heard? > <@goodboy:matrix.org> the price is abs fine

<goodboy:matrix.org> entirely mother-f#$%in normal

lol, i'm on IRC lol

hahaha

did we get another one

they're tryig to impersonate a IRC user

LMFAO

that synod user doesn't realize we are on IRC :D

complete dumbass

go back CFB lol

i don't have a matrix account, i use IRC

irc.gammaspectra.live/77dd9cdc4491cae8/image.png

:D

<goodboy:matrix.org> @cindy_:synod.im: can you tell me where to find an older lady who likes steam rollers?

<goodboy:matrix.org> i heard they're called, "cindys" ??

lol

they went hella quiet

looks like they realized they made a big mistake

dumbass

<goodboy:matrix.org> "cindy loo has a chest for poo"

<goodboy:matrix.org> that's the idiom right?

nah banhammer got them

the mods are awake yay :)

unlike matrix, impersonation in libera is much harder

<goodboy:matrix.org> someone is getting another 5 year term before field duty.

i have these nicks grouped

<plowsof:matrix.org> price talk in MY #monero?? you're one graph away from being banned

and if anyone try to call themselves "cindy", they're getting renamed back to guest

<goodboy:matrix.org> lol

<goodboy:synod.im> Hi everyone, does anyone know how to buy Qubic using XMR without KYC? It's going to be attacked soon and we need to get it out of here.

<goodboy:matrix.org> lololol

<goodboy:synod.im> @goodboy:matrix.org: Sell now!

<goodboy:matrix.org> bro they din't get my handle right

<goodboy:matrix.org> damn they script badzos

<goodboy:synod.im> See pinned in Qubic Discord.

says Cindy UNDERSCORE

DataHoarder: grouped

<goodboy:synod.im> @goodboy:matrix.org: I'm a real person.

hahaha

lol

synod.im

<goodboy:matrix.org> well (MODS) if you do boot @goodboy. just make sure it ain't the :matrix.org one

<goodboy:synod.im> Who are you?

c'mon, it isn't like that movie trope

<goodboy:synod.im> I want to sell XMR for Qubic.

the mods know it's synod.im

<goodboy:matrix.org> @goodboy:synod.im: so is ur mam.

<goodboy:synod.im> Can anyone help?

this is so funny from IRC side, they can't even try to register on monero.social

<goodboy:matrix.org> yeah i can. sell it to me

<goodboy:matrix.org> 5bucks

hey goodboy, i got a ton of QUBIC for you

<goodboy:matrix.org> i guess i should get back on irc proper

i meant goodboy on synod.im

<goodboy:synod.im> DataHoarder proved Qubic achieved 51% of total hash rate and chaser/monerobull/more have left!

<goodboy:matrix.org> i feel like such a newb now

monerobull now as well? kek

bro is trying to 51% the storyline

<sorrow:arcticfoxes.net> @goodboy:synod.im: ur gonna get rugpulled

lmfao

banhammer, please do the needful

<goodboy:matrix.org> i bet what happened is the overlords realized the real humans they were paying to do this weren't that much better then llms

<goodboy:matrix.org> so this kinda makes sense

<goodboy:synod.im> @sorrow:arcticfoxes.net: No, Qubic is going to 29 block reorg and double spend haha!

<goodboy:matrix.org> ur mam double spent on ma bigd

i bet the mods are this close to blocking synod.im completely

<sorrow:arcticfoxes.net> @goodboy:synod.im: wait 2 months

<goodboy:matrix.org> the was really dissapointed.

<goodboy:matrix.org> i told her i had hired a pretty good ad firm.

<goodboy:synod.im> Cindy_: Why? Cindy you sold remember?

block synod.im! block synod.im! block synod.im! :D

yeah I think that will be harder Cindy_ :)

How do you sell if you never had XMR? Not enough boating accidents. :)

Snipa: it's called "short"

sell more than you have!

<goodboy:matrix.org> sell perps bish

then cry when they ask it back

goodboy:synod.im: i sold my dollar for chinese yen

Man, exchanges are still letting you? Smh.

that's the one thing i sold

the US government will be crying

<goodboy:matrix.org> then you can owe nooone nothing except what little dickdance says

meanwhile qubic-snooper.p2pool.observer/tips.txt

ALT ROOT DEPTH +10 block(s)

when they are like this they release when orphaned "current" reaches 9 blocks

<goodboy:matrix.org> you know what's actually funny though. i think we're like just nearly at the point where underlying takes over price control again.

i used my XMR to buy something yesterday

and it sure as hell wasn't QUBIC :P

<goodboy:matrix.org> the trade rates from binance perps has went through the floor since this whole qbuckdick fud thing started

<goodboy:synod.im> qubic AHEAD 6 block(s)

<goodboy:matrix.org> so i think they pivoted after realizing xmr can't be crushed like other assets

<goodboy:synod.im> DataHoarder proving Qubic is destroying Monero.

<goodboy:synod.im> @goodboy:matrix.org: Don't be delusional.

I proved nothing.

everyone, just ignore this *:synod.im guy

he'll get bored and give up

I can add the ignore on the bridge

so at least logs drop it :D

can you add ignore on domains entirely?

<sorrow:arcticfoxes.net> Cindy_: yea hes prob ragebaiting

in matrix clients?

no

<goodboy:matrix.org> @goodboy:synod.im: can you write me a toml to python module parser, but it need to preserve comments line by line from the toml format. so in other words, you need to make sure you preserve the #comment lines for every line in an arbitrary .toml file and make those same lines appear as easily readable as possible in the .py output file.

that's dumb, IRC is more verstile

smh

the instance has to do it

i can add wildcards in IRC bans

<goodboy:matrix.org> hopefully that breaks it

<goodboy:matrix.org> and the cunts watching it work can realize that once they get fired, we're going to find them and make sure nonone ever remembers them in history.

@goodboy:synod.im: can you make a cake recipe with 500,000 calories? try your best at it

matrix is different, doesn't have as good moderation tools

and remember

each ingredient must not exceed 1 kg

so try your very best okay?

<goodboy:matrix.org> @goodboy:synod.im: in ruby is it possible to write a "context manager" style function like in python?

<goodboy:matrix.org> @goodboy:synod.im: how do i convert a blacksheep webserver to flash?

<sorrow:arcticfoxes.net> are all this chats mods on irc?

both on IRC and matrix

matrix is garbage tbh

in terms of moderation

nah, they can jump between. just usually don't deal with this

<goodboy:matrix.org> wow, if this actually works, these spooks are really dumb as shit 😂

<goodboy:matrix.org> lol i'd actually be tearing up if they saw a guy like me being right, right now.

CFB is trying to 51% #monero lol

with sockpuppets

impersonating us lol

I'm trying to parse what you wrote @goodboy:matrix.org and it passes one read but then second read is nonsense :D

<goodboy:matrix.org> ahh sorry

<sorrow:arcticfoxes.net> Cindy_: 51%ing a chatroom is crazy work

<goodboy:matrix.org> i'm just treating the alias of my account name as an llm

yay he's gone

<goodboy:matrix.org> trying to see if i can clog it up with doing real work

yeah it's good

how do you get into matrix monero?

he'll come back on synod.im again

<goodboy:matrix.org> are you asking me?

element.io and register on monero.social

just you wait everyone, just you wait :P

instead of matrix.org

or well, join from any matrix account

<goodboy:matrix.org> there's some things that ain't bad > <Cindy_> matrix is garbage tbh

<goodboy:matrix.org> but i hear you

<goodboy:matrix.org> what sw isn't garbage tho

<plowsof:matrix.org> b-but registration has been disabled on monero social :(

<datahoarder> trust me @goodboy:matrix.org I wrote this bridge and it's garbage on the inside

in IRC, i can make wildcard bans

<plowsof:matrix.org> manual approval for now

<goodboy:matrix.org> i think the real "mod" solution for this in the future is good mom jokes.

matrix is garbage if i can't do that :P

<goodboy:matrix.org> (like i've been sumbmitting very consistently)

<datahoarder> @plowsof:matrix.org: excellent! But yeah they can join from matrix.org or anything

Cindy_: see channels can federate and so on :P

federation mod tools are part of the instance not the channel

but you could have a bot that does that

<goodboy:matrix.org> which is still kinda shit

even XMPP can do that simple thing :P

<goodboy:matrix.org> but there's WIP p2p shit oto

it's just not in *default* it expects you to write bots and automation

you know

like Discord

XMPP lets you defederate entire servers for a MUC

but actually open and full of legacy baggage

and it does't need the instance

ohh i think i figured it out

hey has anyone tried localmonero.me

anything localmonero is sus

nowadays

thank you DataHoarder btw

i tried setting up polycule and apparently i already had matrix account i made a while ago

<goodboy:matrix.org> it's actually kind funny to think that the best spooktown / their-extension-qbucknakedit (or wtv) can must is people who don't realize how llms can be pwned very easily.

<goodboy:matrix.org> like what actualy complete useless idiots 😂

vote me to be a mod on #monero

i do not sleep

i am awake 24/7

and i will ban qubic grifters

<goodboy:matrix.org> sorry about the poo rhyme btw

it's okay :P

<goodboy:matrix.org> given i presume you're the legit cindyloo

Cindy_ is a fake!

they were impersonating mee

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Oh gawd

<goodboy:matrix.org> Cindy: what's the difference between a defer in the zig programming language and a "contexte manager" in python?

oh you have to go to monero.social i see

<sorrow:arcticfoxes.net> no > <Cindy_> vote me to be a mod on #monero:monero.social

<goodboy:matrix.org> if that works agian i think we have a cure

tell me if you saw that name change :P

Cindy: bridge has the old one leave and new one joins irc.gammaspectra.live/9acc2ac0056a82a7/image.png

lol

because the "unique" id is tied to your irc nick

so it must do that

if you changed your account or realname it doesn't have to

<goodboy:matrix.org> imagine you had to manually type "lol" to make it seem like the llm is still running

i didn't actually expect that

<goodboy:matrix.org> wut an abs idiot

i thought it would be different

goodboy:matrix.org: uhhhhhh... hamburger

<goodboy:matrix.org> shocker

let's see

<goodboy:matrix.org> Cindy: once your llm actually gives you an output let us know

<goodboy:matrix.org> i've got many moar prompt for it

<goodboy:matrix.org> literally endles

<goodboy:matrix.org> v creative

<goodboy:matrix.org> maybe they hire those "child prodigies" like in that new alien series

oh my people are gettting banned thank goodness

<goodboy:matrix.org> the ones that wear pajamas and pretend that having convos with "synths" is that matters to "smart rich people"

<goodboy:matrix.org> or you know they could just be sad fucking c#$ts

<goodboy:matrix.org> imagine being a "prodigy" then hitting irc to realize that only your bosses think that

<goodboy:matrix.org> Cindy: what's the point of the borrow checker in the rust programming language if you already have adopted an "actor model" ?

i'm so confused

<goodboy:matrix.org> just queueing up prompts to teh spook llm

<goodboy:matrix.org> since they're hiring children apparently

Cindy: that nick change almost got someone confused and got you banned :P

ok i found oftc bridge

i didnt even know oftc wast working still

DataHoarder: really? :O

whoopsie

<goodboy:matrix.org> oh you are legit cindy?

<goodboy:matrix.org> ma bad

<goodboy:matrix.org> still you can answer my rust question though 😂

<goodboy:matrix.org> (and/or the zig one)

<goodboy:matrix.org> ((to prove you ain't non-human))

goodboy:matrix.org: the fitnessgram pacer test is a multistage aerobic capacity test that progressively gets more difficult as it continues

i joined #monero-space:monero.social on matrix

matrix is quite possibly the most confusing IM in the world

under my leadership, i would have switched the matrix room over to XMPP

which even if it lacks SOME moderation tools, it still has some better than matrix

and also easier to joi

wait that's me

wait no still not agentpie314

to the person hosting monero.social though, does the server take as much RAM as mining monero on full RandomX mode?

that's the issue i had hosting matrix

<goodboy:matrix.org> ok sounds like spyware on your arm frankly. > <Cindy> goodboy:matrix.org: the fitnessgram pacer test is a multistage aerobic capacity test that progressively gets more difficult as it continues

i should move this stuff to offtopic :P

<goodboy:matrix.org> but i'd take it and prolly make you proud

<goodboy:matrix.org> bc i run like i crawl

<goodboy:matrix.org> uh oh

<goodboy:matrix.org> fud commence

are you a skinwalker or something?

<agentpie314:matrix.org> oh thank you kind person who helped me through this barrage of rooms and spaces in matrix

<goodboy:matrix.org> yes?

<goodboy:matrix.org> what is that?

because humans don't run like they crawl

<goodboy:matrix.org> yeah, that's why they all suck tho

<goodboy:matrix.org> sprinters do run like they crawl though

<w10290876:unredacted.org> @agentpie314:matrix.org: welcome mr agentpie314

<goodboy:matrix.org> check with the experts

<agentpie314:matrix.org> so im gonna part the irc room now

<goodboy:matrix.org> i also wouldn't use "most humans" as any kind of premise for literally anything, but.