<a​remor:matrix.org> Final outcome?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> moneroecosystem.com

<a​remor:matrix.org> Why?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> matrix.to/#/!mehPttlWNbDtNeDbvu:mon…mx&via=matrix.org&via=monero.social

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> forums.whonix.org/t/installing-haveno-in-whonix/20014/13

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> aremor

<a​remor:matrix.org> 😂

<a​remor:matrix.org> Someone can link the Reddit threads to that thread, to warn folks

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> crates.io wouldn't be used by the Monero project for its own crates. All crates would be committed to with a cryptographic checksum. That really isn't the discussion here.

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Self promotion

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> We extensively use @ compile time definitions and generics in a way I don't see as neatly possible with C++. It isn't just an idea of memory safety.

<t​hemisplacedphilosopher:matrix.org> Very centralized. High inequality. Small investors cannot vote on governance proposals. They must delegate their coins to validators who use the voting power to vote in line with the foundation. The founders started out as poor cypherpunks but are now addicted to wealth.

<0​xfffc:monero.social> I see. I have to have more specific information about what you exactly mean by that statement to agree or disagree. At this point I think about it as a subjective statement.

<0​xfffc:monero.social> A small correction. That 💯 was a misclick. I fixed the reaction.

<3​21bob321:monero.social> I’ve seen wrong emojis start wars

does basicswapdex acknowledge the existence of support from CCS on its site anywhere yet ofrnxmr? syntheticbird cuprate.org has "Cuprate wouldn't be possible without the Monero Community and the work of its contributors:" love it. for an extra Michelin star and a chefs kiss the CCS could be mentioned somewhere too

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> plowsof lol, I call that an actual backfire. Fun. 😂

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Good morning, good sir! 🎩

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> [@recanman:kernal.eu](https://matrix.to/#/@recanman:kernal.eu) check this out. Gave me the idea of reaching out to Trezor since they're locals and their HWW does support XMR. Thoughts? primal.net/e/note13cx50c8nwtml05vs5…wcrsgup585y9tsa3h3chaap47raxszyeq8l

<j​ohn_r365:monero.social> AI summary of yesterday's (Dec 7) workgroup meeting:

<j​ohn_r365:monero.social> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…ero.social/KpkveFrDqJmlgfMXoggTXDEE

thanks johnr365

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> good morning chat

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> plowsof, ack, will make an issue about listing CCS on cuprate.org website

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> so that I don't forget whenever I have time

<j​ohn_r365:monero.social> np plowsof - great work on those automated chat logs. just sometimes they take a while to read through! kewbit drama and all 😅

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> You should ask the AI "do and participants appear to be posting from multiple accounts"

<s​iren:kernal.eu> Those recent room joins seem legit

<t​hankful_for_today:unredacted.org> I'm googlemozilla.

<t​hankful_for_today:unredacted.org> I don't have access to PGP keys, so you'll just have to take my word for it.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> well I don't take your word

<t​hankful_for_today:unredacted.org> Why?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Why should I ?

<t​hankful_for_today:unredacted.org> You're absolutely right.

<t​hankful_for_today:unredacted.org> I ditched my other account because someone was spamming my email with password reset requests.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> monerobull:

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Tagging me makes it look like I did that :P

<t​hankful_for_today:unredacted.org> Were you the person spamming my email?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I can can confirm, it was mbll (/s)

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> If course not

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> He tagged me bcs my accounts were also targeted

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Suuurree

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Sus. Mbl h4xx0r

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> oh fuck sorry you're right

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> I heard you jacked kewbit

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> You reversed kewbits 75xmr payment too, didnt you

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Yeah, i stoled qtips reddit acct, allegedly

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Also, i am juliu AND syntheticbird 💯

<t​hankful_for_today:unredacted.org> How?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I'm still only mbll on wendnesdays

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> yes I know i am you

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> With my super matrix like screensaver

<t​hankful_for_today:unredacted.org> POS and forming a foundation is not centralization. As I mentioned earlier, it will take time, which will manifest as Ethereum's dominance for people in this community to finally consider these options. For now, we can maintain anarchy.

<t​hankful_for_today:unredacted.org> PoS and forming a foundation is not centralization. As I mentioned earlier, it will take time, which will manifest as Ethereum's dominance for people in this community to finally consider these options. For now, we can maintain anarchy.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> don't lose your time themisplacedphilosopher is a delusional. He don't listen to you, you can mut him

<t​hankful_for_today:unredacted.org> I don't want Monero to fall behind.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> We all want the same thing

<a​remor:matrix.org> You’re googlemozilla?

<a​remor:matrix.org> Oh

<t​hankful_for_today:unredacted.org> Indeed. Monero has taken many features that weren't implemented in Bitcoin, such as D++ and stealth addresses. PoS will be next eventually.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Majority of people including devs and core are against PoS

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> sorry to disappoint you

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> It is very very unlikely to happen

<t​hankful_for_today:unredacted.org> That's okay; POS is better than having over 51% of the hash rate controlled by botnets and centralized pools.

<t​hankful_for_today:unredacted.org> That's okay; PoS is better than having over 51% of the hash rate controlled by botnets and centralized pools.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> If we switch to Proof of Stake right now, CEX have 80% of the validation power

<t​hankful_for_today:unredacted.org> It's also more environmentally friendly.

<t​hankful_for_today:unredacted.org> CEXes don't own any XMR.

<t​hankful_for_today:unredacted.org> Kraken has barely 500k in liquidity on their order books and reject OTC.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I join your opinion on carbon emission but one argument I agree with is that Monero at the moment is not anywhere near BTC consumption and can never be as RandomX prevent large farming/ASICs that are 90% of BTC electric consumption

<t​hankful_for_today:unredacted.org> I'm pretty sure that tail emission was once considered controversial, but eventually, it was implemented. I believe that PoS will follow a similar path. We can also consider donating to support its development if anyone is interested.

<t​hankful_for_today:unredacted.org> ^ Development and research.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Research CCS are prohibited, maybe you can make a bounty, but i doubt you'll get many donations. You can always discuss PoS in #monero-research-lounge:monero.social

<m​alori:xavi.lu> I never understood how PoS work

<m​alori:xavi.lu> not like I ever actually looked into the mater

<t​hankful_for_today:unredacted.org> Thank you.

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> Synthetbird research bounty are banned* 😄

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> syntheticbird*

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> minimum amount of coin make you eligible for being a validator, you are choosed to validate the block, if you succeed you get the fees/reward, if you fail (tamper it) your stake is slashed and you lose a lot of money

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> consensus security is based on the incentive you lose much more than you gain from cheating

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> In practice it works very well

<t​hankful_for_today:unredacted.org> By utilizing smart contracts, it is possible to introduce liquid staking by merging all amounts staked into a pool for multiple validators. This effectively eliminates the minimum amount of coins required to stake.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> but the reason most in monero community are against is the centralization issue. Th validators gain more money, while it is becoming harder and harder for normal people to stake enough to validate the network

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> therefore breaking monero ethics of: anyone can participate to the network security

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Oh nice. I knew of people merging their amounts but manually on the Oxen network.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> but it isn't smart contract based

<m​alori:xavi.lu> oh yeah I see indeed lol

<t​hankful_for_today:unredacted.org> I don't expect PoS to be implemented anytime soon, but I'll try to sow the seeds so that this idea can grow and eventually be accepted.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> arguments for PoS is that it eliminate the mining electric consumption, e-waste and generally make block production more stable

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> always nice to discuss topics, even tho it has already been discussed prior

<t​hankful_for_today:unredacted.org> You also eliminate the botnet problem.

<t​hankful_for_today:unredacted.org> themisplacedphilosopher: We will also be providing a substantial amount of ETH/SRI and XMR/SRI liquidity, which will benefit decentralization. Please do not spread misinformation. Thank you.

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Federal botnets cant be stopped

<t​hemisplacedphilosopher:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/VKyPUAjnyCnckSyZKoQhfvku

<t​hemisplacedphilosopher:matrix.org> That is just one of the research document showing how PoW is better and how centralized PoS negatively impacts bootstrapping.

<t​hemisplacedphilosopher:matrix.org> You are here to lose. You are welcome.

<t​hemisplacedphilosopher:matrix.org> All three attributes – decentralized, secure, and human-meaningful – must be provided if people are to communicate and be communicated about securely over the Internet, and this paper along with the article Advances in Distributed Security shows how to provide all three. nakamotoinstitute.org/library/advances-in-distributed-security

<t​hemisplacedphilosopher:matrix.org> The paper here refers to Secure Property Titles with Owner Authority

<t​hemisplacedphilosopher:matrix.org> Nick Szabo

<t​hemisplacedphilosopher:matrix.org> Originally published in 1998

<t​hemisplacedphilosopher:matrix.org> People like googlemozilla are a product of an inferior education system which brainwashes them and teaches obedience. I am very happy they are coming here to learn. It shows how open we are. Their internal communication systems will never be open to us as it will reveal how inept and corrupt they are.

<r​ust-lialh4:matrix.org> Another reason to use epiphany 🥸

<m​alori:xavi.lu> but apple :dies:

<r​ust-lialh4:matrix.org> I assume I never read that and the only thing I knew was fruits I ate 😑

<r​ust-lialh4:matrix.org> On a serious note is to not rely on web ecosystems for critical rather minimalistic tasks that do not involve live self-doxxing and stuff to zuck and shit, and utilise network as it is without much bloat, tbrh at this point a reason why this happens is due to the 'complexity' of codebases needing sweatshops in sf to keep them running, a thing which decentralised development isn't <clipped message>

<r​ust-lialh4:matrix.org> known to be 'very' good at synchronising it, scatter the use cases and you have lot more chances than reinventing the wheel

<t​hankful_for_today:unredacted.org> I'm pretty sure that tail emission was once considered controversial, but eventually, it was implemented <<>> not really :)

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Meow.

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Purrrrr.

BTW it is Cat that is thankful for today and I follow her example

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Welcome to all our new comers

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> It's rare to see so many new people in like a week

<e​longated:matrix.org> Must have seen a great side of monero community 😅

<v​tnerd:monero.social> Lol everything is possible with c++, its one of the few interesting properties and fault

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> rottenwheel monero project is apolitical and christmas is a religion day so its le bad. Please proceed to remove your santa decoration from your profile picture

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Since when do I represent the monero project, huh?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> we're all subject to Core under Luigi's kingdom

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> I'll proceed to remove your anal virginity instead. 😏

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> amen

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Luigi can ride my deek.

<m​alori:xavi.lu> amen

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> bro laugh for malori but not for me

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I NEED MY DOPAMINE SIR

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> that's neat

<m​alori:xavi.lu> f forgor that fluffy cant send them as reaction sad

<m​alori:xavi.lu> f forgor that fluffy cant send them as reaction, sad

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> you can do it rust-lialh4 type faster

<r​ust-lialh4:matrix.org> "Do you know the chances of winning this lottery sir"

<r​ust-lialh4:matrix.org> "Ah, slim to none"

<r​ust-lialh4:matrix.org> "Yes it is one in xyz millions, if you do get the prize what do you plan to do with it"

<r​ust-lialh4:matrix.org> "

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> destroy systemd through heavy investement into another competitor written in le rust"

<r​ust-lialh4:matrix.org> Why not redox in esp32

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> oh

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> you are right

<r​ust-lialh4:matrix.org> Minimal attack surface

<r​ust-lialh4:matrix.org> Strong memory safeguards 😆

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I'll destroy linux and make RedoxOS the best OS

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> also enhance Xen while we are at it

<r​ust-lialh4:matrix.org> Yeah trovalds passcodes might help you something 😏

<r​ust-lialh4:matrix.org> Try experimenting cutting cpu sillicon die and restricting their connections, first time in history when lobotomy might be a success

<p​ikasjoe:matrix.org> 👋

<p​ikasjoe:matrix.org> Longtime monero fan, first time matrix user ...

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> glad to see you onboard. Two things unit us here, Monero success, and hatred against Matrix platform

<m​alori:xavi.lu> real

<m​alori:xavi.lu> when xmpp channel

<m​alori:xavi.lu> I need to get back to using irc

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Malori

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> when decent xmpp client?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> xmpp client are windows 95 tier

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> This shit literally only bends in ReactOS

<m​alori:xavi.lu> real

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> This shit literally only blends in ReactOS

hi

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> hi Cat

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> please hold

<m​alori:xavi.lu> i mean if xmpp is window 95 tier, irc is DOS tier

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> irc is transistor tier

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I want to see muh SimpleX bridge

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> but will never see a decent one because SimpleX founder is a big dumb racist that believe that using le Rust is endorsing transgenderism

I remember individual transitors with color coded lines on the barrel

<m​alori:xavi.lu> I downloaded simplex as i have seen quite a few people in da monero comunity use it but i have litteraly no one on it xd

<m​alori:xavi.lu> lmao im sorry what

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> nioCat was it fun

yes

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> he said on twitter that Rust sucks because trans

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> like he literally fall for the bait

lines, bands we

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> vtnerd: "as neatly possible"

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> I'm sure it's possible

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Resistors have colourband on it

ofc bob :)

I just looked in an old toolbox to see if any were there

no luck

but I did find some 60yo electrical tape lol

and a fresh package of 60yo solder

keeping the useless tape for my museum

<0​xfffc:monero.social> FYI C++ template meta programming is Turing complete language by itself [1].

<0​xfffc:monero.social> 1. Porkoláb, Zoltán. "Functional programming with C++ template metaprograms." Central European Functional Programming School. Berlin, Heidelberg: Springer Berlin Heidelberg, 2009. 306-353.

<3​21bob321:monero.social> The old solder will kill the whales

ofc keeping the solder

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I don't have great C++ knowledge, but if there is one thing im sure about and at least 5 different C++ programmers I trust told me is that the Template system is cancer, and is like 99.9% of the compiler bugs.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> yes im going on a rant

They just can't cook templates

<0​xfffc:monero.social> Keep in mind, tools don’t have intrinsic value. Tool are useful when used in right place, and are horrible if you misuse them.

99% of compiler bugs are in the code optimizer

<0​xfffc:monero.social> Exactly as sech1 said. Just take look at GCC bug reports.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Sorry I can't comprehend reasonable arguments and statistics.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> but nice try i guess

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> You won't change my believes. I'm a rust bishop and serve my god Ferris

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> rottenwheel: where is the quote of Revuo denouncing sech1 because he supported the banlist

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> [@plowsof:matrix.org](https://matrix.to/#/@plowsof:matrix.org) I don't think there was ever one. That was all me in matrix rooms.

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Jeffro signed the repo recently though, thus far it is boog, ruck and jeffro. Sech1 hasn't even signed yet.

<3​21bob321:monero.social> “ i would like to thank the support of the ccs, without it i would have less stress” plowsof i can put that on my website?

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Also rotten has doxxed himself as santa

What repo

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> sech1 do you remember?

How to even sign a repo on github

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Are you retarded or Russian?

<m​alori:xavi.lu> what if im both

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Explains a lot lol.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> racism detected, initiating ban for racism, bigotry terminated

<m​alori:xavi.lu> f u :3

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> sech1 github.com/Boog900/monero-ban-list

when the ban list was suggested, rottenwheel was against it and used your Revuo platform to banish sech1 for supporting it , or a statement to that effect

<e​longated:matrix.org> Rotten likes to go against everything

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> plowsof hey all! Here's 2.5k IP addresses you must ban from your node right away. Source? Two dicks in a hundreds of thousand p2p network!

do I care?

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> [@elongated:matrix.org](https://matrix.to/#/@elongated:matrix.org) not my fault your reading comprehension is that of a toddler.

what's the point of signing ban_list.txt?

rotten lol

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> sech1 nobody's asking you to care, you goofball.

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> sech1 ask boog?

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Wat.

rotten you just get paid by feds and chainanal to discredit the ban list

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Sure!

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> I am on Chainalysis payroll!

<m​alori:xavi.lu> everyone is fed until proven otherwise

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> I work for the CIA.

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> plowsof is GHCQ's intern.

<e​longated:matrix.org> It’s known

what's the point to sign ban_list.txt, lol. It's not set in stone

I missed the last week or so of conversations here

it's hard to scroll over 500+ messages every time

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Speed read ?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> sech1 point is just credibility, MRL is likely to make a public announcement recommending people to use selsta or boog block list. Therefore the more known/reputable contributiors having access to the detection method signing, the better trust we get in the announcement

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> sech1 I don't think you'd be signing "the list", you eunuch.

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> You'd be signing the method from which such list is derived.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> sech1 you are therefore requested to sign boog ban list, since you know which method had been used

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> `find Kremlin gray matter`

gpg --verify ./sigs/boog900.sig ban_list.txt

that looks pretty much like signing the ban list

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Even a cat gets that first...

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Ok retard.

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Someone sign sech1 message also

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Ye.

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> I'll sign your butt cheeks, chimpanzee prison convict island dweller.

calling me retard 100 times doesn't make me one, you know that?

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Okay, retard.

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Make it 101.

So this is how this channel gets 500 messages every day :D

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> The tragedy!

<3​21bob321:monero.social> That was kewbit

Qbit = 3k/day

rotten is just jelly he doesn't know the ban list detection method

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Absolutely.

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> I am literally fuming right now, not gonna lie.

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> 🤡

sounds hot

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> In soviet Russia the ban list signs you.

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Use the dart on the board method of detection

<r​ucknium:monero.social> sech1: It was suggested at the last MRL meeting for people to sign the ban list. Yes, the ban list could be updated in the future, but this initial signature would provide more public confidence in the list: libera.monerologs.net/monero-research-lab/20241204#c467817

<m​alori:xavi.lu> yes me too plz give me the method, send it to my email not-a-fed⊙f

<r​ucknium:monero.social> The sigs are being verified when seth's Docker is built, now: github.com/sethforprivacy/simple-mo…cker/blob/main/Dockerfile#L138-L148

<r​ucknium:monero.social> If people don't want to sign, that's fine, too :)

<3​21bob321:monero.social> We have free will, choose for yourself

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> im thinking now, but ig I can sign too?

<3​21bob321:monero.social> It will be like a yearbook soon

<r​ucknium:monero.social> SyntheticBird: Yes, if you have a presence in the Monero community, have confidence in the ban list, and have a PGP key, you should feel free to sign and submit a PR to the repo with your sig and location of your public key

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Only the famous ones that have appeared in the reddit threads with monero drama

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Can qbit sign?

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Yeah qbittorrent can

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> qbitstalled

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> 2 more weeks before its fixed

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Then Apt remove qb ?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I prefer: `monero-core-cli set qbit bad-actor`

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> `ERROR: monero-core-cli not responding`

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> `$ sudo systemctl restart monero-cored`

<g​ooglemozilla:matrix.org> @Mods Please ban @thankful_for_today:unredacted.org for impersonating.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> hold on rq

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> yep same instance

<g​ooglemozilla:matrix.org> Reading monerologs left me in shock.

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> [@plowsof:matrix.org](https://matrix.to/#/@plowsof:matrix.org) [@xmrscott:monero.social](https://matrix.to/#/@xmrscott:monero.social)

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> unredacted is the new (i remembered it) nope dot chat?

<g​ooglemozilla:matrix.org> All of their messages were simply taken from what I've said in various channels and reworded. It's possible they're using AI to impersonate.

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> I don't think so. This is the first impersonating handle on there, as far as I can tell.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> So it wasn't you?

DataHoarder is this our first instance of an AI impersonating a user?

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Thus far silverpill, myself and [@user2570:unredacted.org](https://matrix.to/#/@user2570:unredacted.org) are all legitimate community members that use such matrix homeserver. Maybe some others will join us soon.

<g​ooglemozilla:matrix.org> Obviously not. The amount of Ethereum shilling gave it away. It's too much, even for me.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> asurar too

>spiderman NO U

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> some months ago, switched to it because of a monero.social issue

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Who da heck is asurar though haha.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> yeah he was a newcomer. he made some contributions to cuprate

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> haven't heard of him in a while tho

Ever or in here plowsof

I think I'm missing some context as this channel has been moving quick

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> i guess in here, the first alleged/maybe confirmed case

But it is quite common users being impersonated in platforms specifically in the context of large projects

Telegram full of that

(One of the main reasons why the full matrix handle is shown)

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> be like me:

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> > \> hash function integrated in my brain

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> > \> hash everything I look at

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> > \> check the hash of full username

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> > \> immediately detect impersonators

<g​ooglemozilla:matrix.org> Examples below.

<g​ooglemozilla:matrix.org> My original message: `You no longer need 32 ETH. With liquid staking, you can now contribute any amount.`

<g​ooglemozilla:matrix.org> Impersonator: `By utilizing smart contracts, it is possible to introduce liquid staking by merging all amounts staked into a pool for multiple validators. This effectively eliminates the minimum amount of coins required to stake.`

<g​ooglemozilla:matrix.org> My original message: `Yeah, but even with those issues, nothing has come out of it. Similar challenges have been faced by Monero, where the top two centralized pools control more than 50% of the network's hash rate.`

<g​ooglemozilla:matrix.org> Impersonator: `That's okay; PoS is better than having over 51% of the hash rate controlled by botnets and centralized pools.`

<g​ooglemozilla:matrix.org> My original message: `I believe we need to establish a foundation and code of conduct as soon as possible. With our current community size being so small, this is an urgent matter. If Monero were to reach the same level of success as Bitcoin, resolving such issues would become increasingly difficult. In my opinion, your idea of 'anarchy' management simply won't work.`

<g​ooglemozilla:matrix.org> Impersonator: `PoS and forming a foundation is not centralization. As I mentioned earlier, it will take time, which will manifest as Ethereum's dominance for people in this community to finally consider these options. For now, we can maintain anarchy.`

<g​ooglemozilla:matrix.org> So, this is where things have led me to conclude that it's likely AI. It's been taking my responses and manipulating them to sound off. Creepy.

<m​alori:xavi.lu> damn

<g​ooglemozilla:matrix.org> Note that the reason I left was not because my emails were being spammed. monerobull recently showed a screenshot of their emails being spammed, which was likely used as an example by the impersonator right before their messages were sent. I left shortly because of personal reasons.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I thought you left because you had better things to do than talk about qtip

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Oh there are many readers, quick quick guys approve: monero-project/meta #991 its for saving polar bears

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Still thumb down from me 😂

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Scott is only being tame because someone else is "in charge of moderation"