<m​onerobull:matrix.org> you guys should really just try out haveno

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> Been doing that since LM dead lol, it just work™️

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> All my partners have other things to do that sit in front of computers

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> they only seam to use phones

<g​ooglemozilla:matrix.org> I take everything I said back. Sorry mbull. Bisq security deposit is ~$200 in BTC.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> lmao

<g​ooglemozilla:matrix.org> It has increased since I last checked.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> >to use bisq you will only require a small loan of a million dollars

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> it just straight up doesnt make sense to buy BTC and then XMR on bisq

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> it is quite literally cheaper to buy USDT and then buy XMR on ogre

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> and you are less likely to get your house raided bcs the CEX sees your coins going to ogre, not some guy who will do what knows what with them

<g​ooglemozilla:matrix.org> Personally, I still think that doing BTC/ETH on CEX and then switching to XMR through Serai is the easier option.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> nah

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> ltc will be better

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> btc takes too long and ETH can get really pricey

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> btc takes too long and ETH can get really pricey too

<g​ooglemozilla:matrix.org> Why? ETH fees are almost free when not dealing with contracts.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> depends on how its implemented on serai

<g​ooglemozilla:matrix.org> Assuming Serai supports L2 networks.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i know serai has eth smart contracts

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> but those might only be for sending not receiving

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> Swapping XMR to serai will be nice indeed.

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> But still extra swapping, time and fee to convert XMR to cash.

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> I personally do prefer use ETH if I have choice between BTC and ETH, at least ETH, I can plan my schedule ahead

<g​ooglemozilla:matrix.org> Will Serai be ETH L1 or L2?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> eth L1 at launch

<g​ooglemozilla:matrix.org> supporting*

<g​ooglemozilla:matrix.org> Will Serai be ETH L1 and L2?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> ETH, BTC, XMR, DAI

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> (dai on eth l1)

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> Remembering that time when I walked in the middle of not my city for 4 hours waiting for the bitcoin to confirm... so I can get cash lol

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> that time i waited 45 minutes for 2 btc confs

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> (it was the last time i used bitcoin)

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> That's nothing

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> My record was evicion lol

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> That time when you use max fee as usual and someone manage to time your sending of bitcoin right before a massive surge

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> Another time I did a unstoppable and the corn was stuck for 8 hours... I needed to be back online 12H after to "claim a refund"

<g​ooglemozilla:matrix.org> ETH L1 transactions are extremely expensive for smart contract interactions. The cost of swapping on ETH L1 now is $34.65, while Arbitrum transactions are approximately $0.001 to $0.01, depending on network traffic.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> yeah

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> It's why I want to ideally only deal with XMR as far as money go.

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> Other coins only when I flat long them

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> pretty sure arbitrtum is a candidate for integration after launch

<g​ooglemozilla:matrix.org> I'm looking forward to the mainnet launch (without audits) later this month.

<g​ooglemozilla:matrix.org> That is, the release candidate.

<g​ooglemozilla:matrix.org> Vitalik's probably going to use Serai - that'll be great publicity for Monero.

<p​reland:monero.social> I have only ever used actual bitcoin once; I had bought around $100 worth of bitcoin before the price jump in 2021 which brought it up to around 138

<p​reland:monero.social> I decided that I should send it off-exchange for security because “that’s how real people do it”. Bad mistake, because this was during the bitcoin boom, and transaction fees and times were exceedingly high.

<p​reland:monero.social> I sent it to my exodus wallet, and then ended up sending it back onto the exchange in shame because I couldn’t afford the fees to use it for anything else. The cost of that little endeavor was basically all of the gains.

<p​reland:monero.social> After that I realized that Bitcoin wasn’t actually feasible to use; it would take me many years to eventually find Monero though 😂

<g​ooglemozilla:matrix.org> Is Monero vulnerable to the same problem if its usage and price are equivalent to those of Bitcoin?

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> At least monero block size are variable and will grow with demand.

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> Surge will increase the fee but then the block will grow to eat the backlog

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> That got tested (and fixed) during last March stress test

<p​reland:monero.social> My concern (which I’ve mentioned on and off for a while) is *how much* can it grow before we start having larger issues?

<p​reland:monero.social> Because Monero is not Bitcoin: it is going to have a *lot* more transactions going on if/when things start taking off

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> Well, the main issue seam to be the RPC part of the nodes.

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> Specially **wallet nodes**, get hammered harder when demand grow.

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> That will have to be somewhat optimized or the system have to be used in more decentralized way.

<p​reland:monero.social> Tbh imo it would be wise for us to remove the wallet-node separation and make the node light enough to be ran by anyone, even with a cell phone

<p​reland:monero.social> Though that would have unique issues for scalability too

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> Well, the phone don't have the storage capacity

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> most phones**

<p​reland:monero.social> Scalability sucks because you have to be perfect, because your imperfection *is* your scalability

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> non, wallet would have to connect to more random safe nodes.

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> Or wallet user maintain his own node

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> Instead of 10000 wallet trying to RPC one node

<p​reland:monero.social> This could be addeessed through some magic trick encryption thing (I forgot the name of it)

this has been a problem i've wondered about for a long time. even if you don't hand over view keys for wallet scanning, you then incur lots of data costs to pull blocks and scan the chain locally.

<p​reland:monero.social> Ik it’s a controversial opinion to have, especially since we are pretty far ahead of a lot of other chains, but Monero’s main issue atm is scalability, in terms of storage space, bandwidth, and latency. These are all problems that we unfortunately inherited from our “upstream” blockchain roots.

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> It's the same problem for all the blockchains.

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> The blockchain have to be stored somewhere.

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> Light wallet can help, but you need to run a vps somewhere (or host your own)

<g​ooglemozilla:matrix.org> ArcticMine solved this problem.

<g​ooglemozilla:matrix.org> ArticMine solved this problem.

<g​ooglemozilla:matrix.org> I think he mentioned that in the future, advancements in storage, RAM, and other components will lead to improvements in scalability, making it no longer an issue.

<p​reland:monero.social> I keep hearing this mythical name, and I hadn’t even heard of him before today despite me 1. Trying for a while to figure out the members of Monero Core using publicly available knowledge, and 2. Looking into how we could make Monero more scalable

<p​reland:monero.social> Although ig I must’ve seen his name in the one monero meta folder with all the signing keys

yeah, that's the downside. and some people like to wave off the concern and effort of setting up a vps, but imho, it's non-trivial. most providers aren't going to offer the 200+gb needed for storage, and then you have to consider datacaps, how to pay them, which company to trust, what country you want your server in, etc etc. it's a whole rabbit hole.

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> Storage is almost free

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> Bandwidth is free

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> latency is not a problem

<g​ooglemozilla:matrix.org> I highly recommend watching this talk on scalability by him:

<g​ooglemozilla:matrix.org> youtube.com/watch?v=9RJ5HDmuucY

<p​reland:monero.social> Which I would agree with….if the blockchain didn’t grow et infinitum, and the bandwidth wouldn’t grow to absurdly high levels which would need to be multiplied by the number of nodes, which *speaking of which*, the latency issue would become an issue if Musk gets his way and we have 1 million people on Mars and some of them want Monero (ik its far fetched, but we shouldn’t<clipped message>

<p​reland:monero.social> explicitly lock this out)

respectfully, that's the hand waving i mean. storage is not almost free. there is a literal price on it. BuyVM has some of the best prices in north america and most of those instances don't offer 200gb+, and they're almost always sold out

<p​reland:monero.social> Will do 👍

i'll concede that while bandwidth is not free, the caps are generally big enough for a monero-specific node (avg 1tb/node/month)

latency is not the problem, jurisdiction is. i'll speak for myself - I don't like european hosts. I prefer sticking to the USA.

<p​reland:monero.social> Latency shouldn’t be an issue so long as the most recent node can be consistently propagated before the next

<p​reland:monero.social> It’ll be the secret final boss of scalability

yeah, i guess that's a good point - i've never had latency issues so I never thought about propagation. I see why it was brought up now.

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> Main problem is that RPC is not really multithreaded, so a full node running on a 192 cores Epyc will be saturated with 0% CPU usage (aka RPC taking 100% of one or two cores)

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> that's what brought nodes down during the stress test

<p​reland:monero.social> Why wasn’t this realized sooner???

wow. yeah, great call out.

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> We did not have such a stress test before

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> That is fixed many way, more people run nodes

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> Wallet can use more nodes (I think feather is the best for that)

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> Or Wallet use there own node (like monero-gui), in that case no problem but it's going to use storage on your system

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> or of course, improve the code so it's more thread friendly

<p​reland:monero.social> I guess not, but if the current consensus for network operations relies somewhat heavily on having concurrent RPC calls to nodes (translation: more than one user per node) then the RPC being multithreaded is somewhat implied, at least I would’ve thought so

<p​reland:monero.social> Hmm

<p​reland:monero.social> Maybe I’ll take a look at that code later; is it still not multithreaded?

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> I did not look at the code

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> But I did look at my node metrics

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> There is some locking somewhere or something idk

<p​reland:monero.social> Tbh I absolutely suck at multithreading, but I’ll see what it currently looks like

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> If everyone did run there own node that would be a no issue

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> But it's too much to ask everyone to have a node I think. And it's nor normies friendly enough

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> s/nor/not/

<g​ooglemozilla:matrix.org> Will Cuprate be able to fix the multithreading problem?

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> Maybe, you are asking the wrong person

<g​ooglemozilla:matrix.org> @boog900:monero.social

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> It's more complex than just putting more threads. but yes, Cuprate should bring parallelism improvements

<r​ucknium:monero.social> Severing data to wallets and verifying the blockchain are two different tasks that even two different programs can do. Bitcoin and its cousins do it by delegating the wallet-serving task to an Electrum server

<g​ooglemozilla:matrix.org> Is Cuprate currently capable of hosting nodes, or is it still in active development?

<r​ucknium:monero.social> Serving, not severing*

<r​ucknium:monero.social> I suggested to cuprate devs to architect things so that the tasks could be separated. I think they are trying to do that.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> It is still in active development and not ready for test release. But cuprate is already capable of serving p2p network and syncing blockchain

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> boog I think you were writing but the window as too low, sorry if I cut your response

<g​ooglemozilla:matrix.org> Is Cuprate simply a rewrite of the existing node implementation? If so, could using a tool like TRACTOR help accelerate development?

<g​ooglemozilla:matrix.org> darpa.mil/program/translating-all-c-to-rust

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> OMG NO IT ISN'T

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> hmm, I like where where the tractor come from lol

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> hmm, I like where the tractor come from lol

<b​oog900:monero.social> I do have plans for a separate binary just for RPC, although we aren't doing that currently

<g​ooglemozilla:matrix.org> Sorry for these naive questions. I'm having trouble finding reliable information on Cuprate due to its limited documentation.

<b​oog900:monero.social> No, its a complete different design

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> In an ideal world where we value performance over everything, Cuprate would have had to be architectured as one thread, do everything and each thread have its own database and async runtime. but that would have been... horrible

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> and only useful in case of high parallelism.

<b​oog900:monero.social> I dunno how would you handle an incoming using multiple threads?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> like Actix, one real time thread dispatching requests around

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> like Actix, one real time thread with the socket dispatching requests around

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I think nginx had some docs on that pattern

<b​oog900:monero.social> *incoming block

<b​oog900:monero.social> This is probably only beneficial if requests are independent, when verifying a block we dispute txs to be checked over multiple threads using `rayon`.

<b​oog900:monero.social> *distribute

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I was mainly talking about RPC

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> huh

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> matrix hello ? are you okay

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> i was talking about RPC not P2P. This one cannot be independent.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> You would have a P2P pool that would validate and interact with the network and *feed* the RPC threads that all have their own txpool/database

<b​oog900:monero.social> OK yeah that makes sense

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I know, this is completely overkill compared to a different binary, all you do is avoiding context switch

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> well actually no

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> nvm what i said

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> each thread having their own database make them independent, an rpc binary would still fetch at p2p binary database, not duplicating it

<b​oog900:monero.social> LMDB supports multi-process access, but yeah I don't know if avoiding the context switch is worth not being able to use multiple thready to get data for a single request

<b​oog900:monero.social> LMDB supports multi-process access, but yeah I don't know if avoiding the context switch is worth not being able to use multiple threads to get data for a single request

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> well in practice, independent actors have always been the pattern of choice for serving requests, because the performance are predictable (thread local). relying on multiple threads means relying on OS scheduler and runtime scheduler. Do i think it's worth it? absolutely not, would be horrible to code and get right, and current architecture is already excellent enough.

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> It would be great if a phat ass server could have 1 docker instance doing the righting and have 9 others just reading the same volume

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> It would be great if a phat ass server could have 1 docker instance doing the writing and have 9 others just reading the same volume

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> But by simply reading you’re locking the LMDB file right?

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> I wonder if there is a workaround

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> One database, multiple threads.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> One P2P binary, multiple RPCs

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> One database docker, 9 rpc docker

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> We're really just onto the same resource contention.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I think it might bring performance improvements but just because of the scheduling

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> What do you need the RPC for

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> making people wallet works

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Because I am doing something interesting with crates.io/crates/monero-wallet

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Memory guarded multi instance

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> I’ll I’ve been working on it instead of Haveno for a bit cause cause woodser needs it

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> I’m adding Dart FFI hooks too, so you don’t need to start a http server for each lol

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Cause I just love dart

<b​oog900:monero.social> I would strongly recommend against that and I would point you to monero-serai/monero-oxide or kayabanerve's monero-wallet: github.com/serai-dex/serai/blob/dev…p/networks/monero/wallet/Cargo.toml which is now going to need a name change :(

<g​ooglemozilla:matrix.org> Has this been audited?

<b​oog900:monero.social> Is currently being audited: ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/monero-serai-wallet-audit.html

<g​ooglemozilla:matrix.org> If I recall correctly, the CCS funding for this audit has recently been completed. So no audits.

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Oh! It’s been done already?

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Interesting

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> I’ll check the spec

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> I had a specific operational philosophy for this one

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> The audit is 1000 Xmr

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> The fuck

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> 👃👃👃

<b​oog900:monero.social> It's way more work than you realize

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Can you smell that

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> No I completely get it,

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> I realise

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> But 1000

<g​ooglemozilla:matrix.org> I can smell you being jealous. You now realize that you could've scammed more from your CCS. Oh well.

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> That’s an absolute piss take

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> I don’t get jealous

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> It’s one of my Devine personality traits

<b​oog900:monero.social> + in monero-wallet you are pulling in deps that are completely unrelated to Monero. For example the `bulletproofs` crate, is not the same as Monero's bulletproofs

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Thanks I’ll revise

<g​ooglemozilla:matrix.org> It's called economics. The supply of people who are knowledgeable and willing enough to audit Monero is extremely small. Therefore, the compensation is large.

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Fair play, maybe I undervalued my own CCS, good think to take away for future freelance stuff

<g​ooglemozilla:matrix.org> May God have mercy on all the clients of your future freelance work.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> LMFAO

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> I was quite excited about learning this, I may just do it anyway for the sake of learning more detail in rust, and the math side of crypto but which is the one that’s Audited I’ll link that

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Hey hey! Play nice I haven’t done too badly this year

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> waiting for le ChatGPT generated audits on pedersen vector commitments

<b​oog900:monero.social> how much time have you spent on it

<b​oog900:monero.social> (monero-wallet)

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Bootstrapped it but mostly research

<b​oog900:monero.social> define Bootstrapped

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> For me that’s planning what libraries I need, planning the project layout

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Modules layout

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Deciding if something should an abstract module entirely

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Of modules don’t exist, how am I going to formulate those crypto functions, finding C++ hooks for the things that are just too hard for me to figure out

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> If modules don’t exist, how am I going to formulate those crypto functions, finding C++ hooks for the things that are just too hard for me to figure out

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> I planned and implemented the FFI so I can later hook into dart

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Setup how the default config file will look if being used as a CLI or RPC without params

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Like daemon address

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> So not mega far in but I work 3 times quicker than the average person

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Which company is doing the audit?

<g​ooglemozilla:matrix.org> Cypher Stack

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Knew it

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> lol

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Fair play tho

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Again

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> :D

<3​21bob321:monero.social> They do most of them

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> They are very good at them

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Tho no one can beat Zellic imo

<b​oog900:monero.social> kewbit.org: did you use chatGPT to build monero-wallet

<b​oog900:monero.social> or even a bit of it

kewbit ... we've been discussing monero-wallet for months ... yoinking the crate name is just annoying. either you're unaware of rust development happenings or don't care

not cool :(

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> sneurlax: I squat all crates I use/plan to use.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> kayabanerve but at least you're not a scammer

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> Someone deleted monero-wallet two days ago.

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> It was deleted from the registry two days ago.

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> kewbit then registered their crate.

<b​oog900:monero.social> He probably asked for it then right?

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> I had a range deleted. Unclear if automated or provoked.

<k​ayabanerve:monero.social> They only deleted my crates for monero. They didn't touch crates I squat which don't have "monero" in the name. That implies to me the "monero" part was specifically flagged by some entity but I can't comment. I've asked crates.io to restore these immediately.

<b​oog900:monero.social> Did you link a repo?

<k​ayabanerve:monero.social> It doesn't appear to have been done by kewbit yet some automated process I got hit in the crossfire of.

<b​oog900:monero.social> Directly to the crate or serai, I'm wondering if they thought you were just squatting with no work

<b​oog900:monero.social> I would be surprised if they are running automated tools to delete crates

<s​hortwavesurfer2009:monero.social> lemmy.zip/post/27451318

<e​longated:matrix.org> They had issues with their self hosted fdroid repo and couldn’t get it working with latest version

<s​hortwavesurfer2009:monero.social> They said they had issues with it, but I never saw anything saying what issues they had. So this is the first I'm hearing of that.

<s​hortwavesurfer2009:monero.social> Still not a particularly bright decision, let's go to a centralized store where any government can just request our app be taken down.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> true, let's all fall into the Daniel Micay x Vik conspiracy

<e​longated:matrix.org> True, fdroid should have been kept

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> False, F-Droid criticism was right

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Accresent app is more secure its a fact

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Just switch to Obtainium and call it a day. There's not even a conflicting signature so you won't need to uninstall and set it all back up...

<s​hortwavesurfer2009:monero.social> I will agree, it does appear to be more secure, but it definitely is more brittle.

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Correct, my dear Garfield.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> ofrnxmr raised the criticism that he don't want github to have metrics of what application he download

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> which I can understand

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Who?

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Fuck that guy.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> D'accord rouepourrite 👍️

<s​hortwavesurfer2009:monero.social> That pretty much leaves Monerujo and Stack as the only two capable Android wallets.

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> F-Droid is a facade

<s​hortwavesurfer2009:monero.social> Cake is dead.

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> > While updating some image-related stuff today, I've enabled proxying images for Lemmy.zip. This was a feature from lemmy 0.19.4, which is summed up as:

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> >

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> > "This prevents deanonymization attacks where an attacker uploads an image to his own server, embeds it in a Lemmy post and watches the IPs which load the image."

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> >

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> > Let me know if you see anything weird happen with images. Doesn't affect old images, only new ones, and I can turn it off pretty easily if there's an issue.

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> I’ll link you a good read

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Meanwhile in Lemmy instances whose sysadmin knows what they're doing...

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Ok doomer.

<j​effro256:monero.social> Who's Daniel Micay ?

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> My brother in Christ...

<s​hortwavesurfer2009:monero.social> I do understand that F-Droid has some security issues. However, they had their own repository, so they were signing the files themselves.

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> The best security architect/developer you'll ever see in your entire life, that's Micay.

<s​hortwavesurfer2009:monero.social> If I have to rely on centralization for a little more security, that does not seem like a good trade-off.

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Also the most insufferable autistic moron. But that's for another day.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Lead developer and founder of GrapheneOS. Security researcher. Lord of schizophrenia. Internet though guys since 1984. Has been raided in his house by his ennemy 30 times (in his head at least)

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Hey Micay, how are you?

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> LIBEL MISINFORMATION HARASSMENT SUBSTANTIAL DAMAGE!!!

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> accurate

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> CALYXOS TECHLORE!!! JAMES PLEASE GIB COPPERHEADOS BACK!

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I still admire how he managed to create a cult out of depression and anxiety on the state of world security

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> [@syntheticbird:monero.social](https://matrix.to/#/@syntheticbird:monero.social) my most bruv moments are when someone simply asks the GOS account on socials for X or Y question and Micay hops on keyboard, replies with 10 different posts and each and all of them are the same words in different order, talking their ears out about how GOS and him are under permanent attack from Ross<clipped messag

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> man, Techlore, CalyxOS, CopperheadOS...

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> My dude he was asking you if you wanted cheese on your tacos, not to deafen him with your libel and misinformation!

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> For a while he was taking it the extra 30 miles and claiming he had secured funds to sue all of them for all the "substantial" damage caused...

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> He hasn't had enough with James dragging the CopperheadOS dispute in Canada for years and years...

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> That's why I said earlier Kewbit situation reminds me of Micay.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> mamma mia

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Coding geniuses tend to be autistic, and I don't mean that in a bad way, just a palpable fact.

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> That is statically correct

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Look at yourself in a mirror! 😍❤️

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> They also have the most trouble communicating and making good real life common sense decisions.

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> I just my see a humanoid organism slowly decomposing from the stress of a CCS

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> I just see a humanoid organism slowly decomposing from the stress of a CCS

<p​rivacyx:matrix.org> I agree my autistic son is math guru and pretty mean coder but terrible in social settings

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Remember end of month, we will have getmonero cert expired party

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> kewbit.org: Are you willing to transfer management of monero-wallet to boog900: given that name is for an existing library in the ecosystem which we just raised funds to audit?

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> Also given the name's availability is solely due to my account being accidentally flagged as spam when it is not in fact spam.

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> You can add them as an admin via the crates.io website and immediately clear that up. I'm unsure if you can remove yourself/set boog900 as the owner or if boog900 would remove you after accepting the co-admin responsibilities.

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Huh? No im working on a version

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Is this related to serai or monero?

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> I have specific goals

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Has someone already made a fully working rust wallet and can prove it?

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Like you can prove yours?

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> You make me sick bro, just everything you say

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Ask me if I give two fucks.

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Constant digging and shitting gets tiring lol

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Just give it up

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> The day you shut up and put up, it ends.

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> You’re like a child

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Have you ever heard of this artifact known as a mirror?

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Sadly for you imma be around for a long ass time

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Use it. The lack of self awareness is exorbitant.

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Let me check the books...

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> You just "returned" few hours later after quitting for good for the 9th time just yesterday.

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Go on write another shitty newsletter about it

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> "a long ass time", more like until I have the next meltdown.

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Clown.

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Faggot

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> kewbit.org: monero-wallet, the one being audited, is already a complete wallet in that it can scan and send transactions without using any C(++) code from the Monero project.

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Nice

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Where is it

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Source

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Do you mind if I see ?

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> github.com/serai-dex/serai/tree/develop/networks/monero/wallet

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> This looks pretty neat, is it serai agnostic though? Lots of references to serai in cargo.Toml

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> It has no Serai code in it. Its named Serai because it was developed under Serai.

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Is is it memory guarded

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> That's why the underlying lib, monero-serai, is being rebranded to monero-oxide and moved to a new governance structure (for clarity).

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> It has no Serai code in it. monero-serai was named that because it was developed under Serai.

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> Secrets are wrapped in Zeroize to ensure deletion from memory on drop. If you want something more, feel free to make a PR.

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> *and to ensure neutrality

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> And multi instance

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> And multi instance

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Sorry phone died

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Syncing

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> It is inherently multi-instance as it doesn't have any global scoping, leaving the user to manage instances themselves.

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Does it function as an RPC a Lib and a CLI?

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Or just lib

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> It itself is a lib. PRs for an RPC and CLI around it welcome.

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Makes sense

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> So, are you fine with this kewbit.org: ?

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Happy international volunteer day, everyone! 🥳 The prestigious XMR workgroups celebrate all together in this beautiful day! nationaltoday.com/international-volunteer-day

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> I’m just reading it cause I looked for ages for a rust wallet before starting but it looks like you got a hell of a lot further than me

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> It would feel rude not to give it to you

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Any plans for FFI hooks?

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> Thank you for the acknowledgement

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> Monero is adding FFI hooks into various libs contained for the next protocol upgrade, so you can call FCMP++ prove/verify from C++.

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> There'll also be work to migrate existing wallet2 multisigs into this scheme.

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Nah fuck c++

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Dirty language

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> There's not plans to add FFI into it directly though.

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> I said it'd be callable from C++, not that it'd be C++.

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> I only ask because haveno could benefit from this too and use dart FFI interface

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Uhm I guess I just throw my shitty code in the bin then lol

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> 🥹

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> If an FFI is added around it on the Rust side, it'd be callable from anything supporting a C FFI.

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> That'd include Dart, presumably

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Yes

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> The existing FFI work is derived using cbindgen (not cxx)

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Say I had multiple wallets going at the same time, could it manage the sync of them asynchronously using the same blocks or would it resync each wallet sequentially say, starting from the lowest block height

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> I’m just trying to understand if have I can use this now or now

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Haveno***

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Haveno tries to keep open multiple RPC daemons

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> You'd download the block once and process it multiple times. The scan process is done with no IO, solely the results of the IO, letting the two pipelines run independently.

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> The work independently which isn’t effective all the time

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Ok but I will add FFI

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> Meaning?

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> So I can interface dart with it

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> And add it to haveno

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> I'm fine with a PR for that

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> But I'd also like to circle back on getting this transferred to boog900: of Cuprate so I'm not actively concerned about that

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> Is that happening? Are you saying you want to add FFI to your crate and that's your justification for keeping the monero-wallet name?

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> Sorry, I'm just unclear

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Yeah ownership I’m not fussed about just functionality

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> Great. Please let me know when it's happened. I'll follow up with boog900: then

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> Also, please keep an eye on the monero-oxide organization. That'll take over responsibility of monero-serai (rebranding it in the process) and monero-wallet may also be moved there

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> And thank you

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Well I registered it for the purchase of building it for haveno but also adding cli and lib and also FFI so a broader spectrum of apps can use it

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Purpose*

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> will you transfer monero-wallet to cuprate and remove yourself / lock the door on the way out and put the keys through the letterbox?

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> But yeah same as what you’ve done it would be haveno agnostic

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> plowsof @plowsof:matrix.org: Can you stay out of this?

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Wait is this a hold up

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Haha

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Because I dude I get so much shit from this community

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Did you do a CCS too?

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Kabaya

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Kaya*

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> I've stayed out of your prior discussions (AFAICR) as it isn't my business and I haven't cared to step in.

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> No I know

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> I'm only stepping in here because monero-waller was built over years and I did have that name until two days ago.

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Just interested if people treat other developers like shit

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> That bare working their asses off for then

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> kayabanerve thats what you want, and he needs to clarify to save time here

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> I found it I didn't anymore when exactly what I was trying to stop happened: someone else registering it.

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> That bare working their asses off for them

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> boog900

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> plowsof @plowsof:matrix.org: Seriously, fuck off.

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> I did two CCSs for my development. One was retroactive. One is payment pending yet complete, with all the work available under github.com/kayabaNerve/fcmp-plus-plus

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Did they try to not pay you on any milestones?

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> are you ok? did you miss the 1000+ messages yesterday? you can talk through the request at hand or get it clarified

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> It's pending review by a qualified developer (as I requested as part of its due diligence and the CCS being responsible)

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> So you haven’t been paid anything yet?

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> You’re waiting for the audit first

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> I didn't do a CCS for monero-serai/monero-wallet. I did a CCS for their audits.

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> I was paid my retroactive CCS.

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> I also am co-chair on a fund, escrowed by the CCS, which has paid several contract agreements.

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> I also did a CCS for my work developing the FCMP++. That's just pending the due diligence.

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> So I've been paid one to me, pending due diligence on another (it's only been a few days on a massive amount of specialized code), and manage one which has paid out as expected of it.

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Ok imma DM you just quick but yes I’m transferring that to boog for you

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> Thank you :D

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Hi geonic, the call recorder accounting, principles Monero project enforcerer and distinguished film director! May I ask how did the "recap of the event today" go? Any updates? Or are they still digesting the massive event and prepping big headliners on TV azteca with the Monroe Enterprise Alliance? tvazteca.com

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> libera.monerologs.net/monero-community/20241121#c462527

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Salomon asked for a week a week and a half ago! We're thrilled to hear more!

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> libera.monerologs.net/monero-community/20241124#c464042

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> He was writing a report soon to include all links to the 5-6 other hit pieces and we have yet to see it... since... November 24th! libera.monerologs.net/monero-community/20241124#c463883

some serious pulse fingering the last few days

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> I cannot believe this still... "finalizó Andrés, uno de los organizadores del evento." LOL libera.monerologs.net/monero-community/20241124#c463878

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> How much XMR for this stunt? 36.68 XMR, yessir! repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/c…9fd8caa59f69712e19457c47668bbd4722b

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> monerobull: Do you ever question yourself if your 24/7 Haveno shilling strays into something annoying, or you don't ever question that permashilling everywhere? 🤔

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> redlib.zaggy.nl/r/Monero/comments/1…now_live/m0bt94h/?context=3#m0bt94h

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Look at that comments history and `Ctrl + F` *Haveno*. lol redlib.zaggy.nl/user/monerobull/comments

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> boo hoo

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> cry about it

<g​ooglemozilla:matrix.org> When and if Serai comes out, monerobull is going to be on another level.

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> The classic childish behaviour of our stellar Reddit moderator!

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> mr "loses 5 k by getting scammed on telegram"

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> You keep throwing that punch like it's a golden nugget to silence me and that tells much more about you than me.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> yeah i dont care about your opinions anymore

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> wont let you walk over me anymore

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Have manners, idiot.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> no it shows how retarded you truly are

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> The classic childish behaviour of our stellar Reddit moderator!

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Go post reddit DMs to prove your "time-consuming" work!

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Clown cab.

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Look, your honor, two guys DM'd me saying how stellar my contributions are! repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/c…als/-/merge_requests/476#note_26804

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> The time consuming work? Sticking a thread promoting a Haveno network, as a moderator. Only after you figured how to deactivate the moderator flag to keep rolling the shilling.

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Spare me with the nonstop 'anything that is not Haveno, scam' lines lol.

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> 👏 Looking forward to more Reddit DMs to justify the payroll!

<m​onerobull:monero.social> Fuck you, bad actor

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> If he doesn't agree with my antics, he is retarded and a bad actor!

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Don't walk over me! No!

<a​remor:matrix.org> Trying to forex on TG?

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> And this person is a moderator. :D

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Yes! I sent 5k expecting 10k back!

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Nigerian prince?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Rottenwheel is nigerian? TIL

<a​remor:matrix.org> Naw Haveno should be stickie though. Real trades. Not whatever bullshit the CEXs are lying about

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Point to me to the lying 'CEX' that is one of these nascent, yet unknown p2p platforms a la LocalMonero.

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> I shall be waiting.

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Point me to the lying 'CEX' that is one of these nascent, yet unknown p2p platforms a la LocalMonero.

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Not the big CEXs, the p2p marketplaces mbull always shits on because muuuuhhh Havenooooo sirrrr.

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> The centralized!!!!! screeching is exhausting.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> there is no point in having 10 different localmonero clones. they bring nothing new to the table and will all end worse than localmonero did

<a​remor:matrix.org> Centralized == can rug pull, can be taken down.

<a​remor:matrix.org> Closed source == cannot be trusted

<a​remor:matrix.org> Those the only things that matter

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> You can predict the future!

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i can gurantee you that none of these new sites will be around in 7 years

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> I wonder why so many thousands of users relied on LM for so many years and no one ever lost a dime...

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Interesting.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> id bet you $5000 but...

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Do better, fatty cheeks; those insults are of a kid from elementary.

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Pwnd

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Plus, show absolutely no manners at all.

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Be decent.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> you do realize there is a difference between localmonero and localmonero clone #4

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> I had no clue! What is it!?

<a​remor:matrix.org> I wonder why it no longer exists. Interesting

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> I thought they all were controlled by Alex! Illustrate me.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> no the issue is that they arent

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> alex is legit, clone #6 isnt

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> I wonder why we shouldn't have options that are more user-friendly than the barrier to entry of 10-15% deposit to start trading in the first place...

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Or that requires you to have your client on 24/7, else your offers go down...

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Or... the list goes on.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> we are literally discussing on how to solve it already

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> But the know-it-all decentralized screecher hides his head in the sand and starts yelling bad actorrrr!!! retard!!!!

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> I won't let you walk over me ever again!!!

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Ok RetoSwap.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> ok RetoSwap team member rottenwheel

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Hey! I want to buy XMR in the most private way! But first I need Monero... to buy Monero!

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> check haveno chat

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> we have a design that can work

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Good luck, have fun.

<a​remor:matrix.org> User-friendly != better. Otherwise let’s just use fiat. That’s pretty easy.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> yeah

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> bank transfers are instant and free

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Yeah, let's make it as obtuse as possible. Gotta run your client at all times, through Tor, no less, to acquire sneaky bucks.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> the bank app also loads faster than cake

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> no need to sync

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Elitism will go long ways!

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Might as well go back to fiat bucks. 100%. Such intelligence in this channel!

<g​ooglemozilla:matrix.org> TLDR?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> are you saying its a bad thing haveno runs via tor by default?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> lol

what's with the consistent shouting at each other and belligerent reputation attacks? aren't we all supposed to be friends? maybe we need to have a Christmas party. or one of those Anniversary parties, or something, something to stop this madness. Maybe drink, drugs, dancing, etc. would that help?

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Create the CoC or we will go straight to $1!

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> The braincells shortage returns!

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Rotten. Shut. The. Fuck. Up

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Call the one who figured the 99 line out, that should be able to figure out what I meant.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> midipoet, i dont know. someone even paid for rottens flight to monerokon and he didnt seem like such an asshole in person

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> so i dont think another in-person meetup will do anything

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> its just that rotten has a big mouth online

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Getmonero cert will expire soon

Rotten. Shut. The. Fuck. Up

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> So we went from the 5k to rubbing on the face the Kuno thing. LOL

yeah, but he was probably stoned in Prague

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Next drama

maybe he just needs more weed

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> midipoet I am always stoned.

stoned on rocks

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Keyboard warrior

Keyboard pussy*

<g​ooglemozilla:matrix.org> There's no need to be rude. I was simply suggesting something that has worked in the past. If you're not interested in setting up a foundation or creating a community guidelines document, so be it.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> ok guys, this was some fun sparring

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> He doesn't put up in person!

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Now he wants to throw dukes at me!

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> id like to get back to work now

thanks mbll

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Solitare ?

rottenwheel: did you ever boof your weed?

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Thanks mbll

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Minesweeper.

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> midipoet I would never boof anything, that's ghey as fuck.

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Be careful, the pseudomod will scream OFFTOPIC in 3... 2... 1...

i don't know. looks like fun to be honest

I already did you dumb fuck

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> midipoet you try it first. ;)

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Pseudomods shouldn't be using bad words!

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Set the example!

Workgroup. You should stfu and go to offtopic

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> you should eat a bag of dicks!

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> monerobull: don't PM me, I won't join room.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> nothing more cringe than boofing alcohol and fucking dying

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> dying to any drug is pretty cringe ngl

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> ok then

Unless youre rotten, then its based

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/GRwQOPjvePHXtSKmOAwLAhPy

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> answer here then

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Hmm

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> No, I legitimately find you insufferable.

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Play nice

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Being honest is playing nice, your honor.

monerobull: there is no way anybody should boof beer. sounds seriously messy.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> midi they dont boof beer

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Lol, crack it up and swallow the beer through your arsehole.

who is they??!?!?

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Sounds magnificent!

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> they soak tampons in hard liquor

wtf

how do you know this

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> yeah and bcs it goes directly into the bloodstream its pretty easy to die to

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> too much internet

<g​ooglemozilla:matrix.org> Monero will not grow with how the community, CCS, X account (who and why is this anonymous person always excited?), funds, etc. are managed. Period.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> the nice thing is

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> monero doesnt really need any of it to survive

Googlemozilla - i agree

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> if people need it, they will find it

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> the x account is a crime against the community though, agreed

And i think these people are intentionally bad actors

X account postinf they are excited about basicswap, and basicswap rweet was already excited

<g​ooglemozilla:matrix.org> It may remain niche forever if changes are not made. If you're not on board with setting up a foundation and CoC, then maybe another approach will work better. To be honest, I'm just not sure.

And posting it 24hrs before another keystone shill tweet

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Again... you are super new...

Its all rather fucking disgusting

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> does bitcoin have a foundation

Blockstream /s

Microstrategy /s

<g​ooglemozilla:matrix.org> I'm new to Monero, not cryptocurrency. I've been part of the Ethereum community for almost a decade now.

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> There won't be a foundation. The closest you'll get to a CoC is the libera policies stuff...

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Welcome in! What made you look into XMR in the first place, friend?

<g​ooglemozilla:matrix.org> No. I think leadership is a mess across different organizations, which is why the code is ossified. I don't want that to happen in Monero.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> googlemozilla don't listen to the grumpy. we have a super code of conduct waiting to be merged here: monero-project/meta #991

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> You can let your approval

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> How long has that been up there for?

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> April 13. Haha.

<g​ooglemozilla:matrix.org> Thank you. I'll take a read.

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> 8 months and counting! CoC is around the corner! Better behave yourselves or naughty corner it will be!

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Buy b4t2l8.

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> The chaos that ErC trying do CoC stuff with Haveno generated...

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Mamma mia...

<m​onerobull:synod.im> hiya

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<m​onerobull:synod.im> IN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITCOIN BUY BITC<clipped message>

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> monerobull: 🔨

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<3​21bob321:monero.social> @monerobull#2244

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<m​onerobull:matrix.org> on it

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Peace be upon us, comrades!

<g​ooglemozilla:matrix.org> What the hell is going on...

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> look at this clown /s

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> googlemozilla: Timmy Turner going wild with spam accounts raiding the room!

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> banning impersonators be like

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/ekgXxpCnWrquiyrryLLtYepQ

<m​alori:xavi.lu> Imagine not touching grass to the point you raid channels smh

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Mαlοri: how the heck did you use that Isabella the Monero girl sticker as a Matrix reaction a bajillion messages ago? Noticed but didn't ask right then.

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Mαlοri: Imagine touching grass!

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> What client witchcraftery was that?

<m​alori:xavi.lu> f dosent work on fluffy

<m​alori:xavi.lu> nheko!

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> No, that's sending the actual sticker; I could swear I saw it used as a reaction, though.

<m​onerobullisafaggot:synod.im> monerobull fuk u bitch faggot

<m​onerobullisafaggot:synod.im> ban me from reddit faggot

<m​onerobullisafaggot:synod.im> fuck you fucker ban me from reddit

<m​alori:xavi.lu> yeah it was using nheko, I'll get to my puter in a but

<m​alori:xavi.lu> yeah it was using nheko, I'll get to my puter in a bit

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Mαlοri: no stress, ping me when able to showcase and I'll come watch the magic unfold again.

<m​onerobullisafaggot:synod.im> monerobull haveno fucking go to 0 retoswap scammer fuck you bitch i hope you lose all monero fucking scammer go to 0

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Are you my friend

<g​ooglemozilla:matrix.org> ...

<m​onerobullisafaggot:synod.im> ofrnxmr rugpull fucking scammer

<m​onerobullisafaggot:synod.im> fuck you faggot

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Imagine being so obsessed with someone you start not only using their nickname to create brand-new spamming accounts on Matrix, but actually do this, almost every day. Harassment and all.

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Hey look, its you

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> When was the last time you rubbed one off, friend?

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Mαlοri: you dick. That's rad. Nice one, gotta check Nheko, whenever my fever for SchildiChat dies off... <del>unlikely</del>.

<g​ooglemozilla:matrix.org> I don't see why someone would do this.

<s​iren:kernal.eu> Send any pic with transparent bg, it looks like a sticker

<g​ooglemozilla:matrix.org> What is the point?

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Siren: no, look, it's the sticker as reaction, not the actual sticker, raw.

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Shortage of masturbation sessions, joints, beers, real-life interactions... many such cases.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> nah rotten isnt that big of a pussy to use alts

<g​ooglemozilla:matrix.org> Do you think this troll has a single main account, or is it being run by multiple people? I'm genuinely puzzled as to why they're so upset.

<g​ooglemozilla:matrix.org> Did they lose money trading Monero?

<m​alori:xavi.lu> idk who invited me to revue monero but my server admin is cringe

<m​alori:xavi.lu> room complexity is too high

<m​alori:xavi.lu> ima bother them

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> That'll hafta have been me, sir. Weird, yeah. When I shot the invite, it was telling me it couldn't find your username for whatever reason, and I chose to send invite anyway. It registers 4 active sessions when I look into your profile, but alas...

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Mαlοri: where do they run that synapse server? An obama phone?

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Le matrix momento.

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> I cannot find the username you just interacted with 2 minutes ago in a public room!

<m​alori:xavi.lu> server can tank it he is just scared the DB gonna be 300GB in 3month

<s​iren:kernal.eu> googlemozilla: it's probably this guy. They use very similar insults and language, and have a bone to pick with monerobull.

<a​nchoc:matrix.org> i am so fascinated by the troll let us discuss them all day long

<a​nchoc:matrix.org> how do you think they like their eggs cooked scrambled or over easy

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Revuo will be packed today. Nice.

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> anchoc: everyone knows sunny side up is the standard.

<m​alori:xavi.lu> "I have storage problem" he have 70GB left, just that last week he ran out of space cuz he idk torrented porn on it

<m​alori:xavi.lu> smh shouldnt have used a friend's homeserver

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> You should come join me at unredacted.org. :D

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Or, maybe nope.chat.

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<m​alori:xavi.lu> > protect their right to privacy

<m​alori:xavi.lu> have a discord server

<m​alori:xavi.lu> lol

<m​alori:xavi.lu> a

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Did you know GrapheneOS has a Discord server as well?

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> MAGIC Grants, Monero itself has an unofficial Discord server... haha.

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<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> What does the Discord server have to do with the website or the back-end regardless? 🤔 Mαlοri

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> monerobull: 🔨

<m​alori:xavi.lu> nothing just find it funny

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> plowsof plowsof plooowsof, update the meeting issue title in meta. It reads November 7th. Are we going back in time now?

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> monero-project/meta #1120 :D

<s​iren:kernal.eu> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…/kernal.eu/bISVDCTMMqLnjwkiUhRsONNg

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Kewbit avatar 😆

<a​nchoc:matrix.org> i am here to spread the gospel of eggs benedict, sunny side up heathens will be treated accordingly

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Someone needs to start documenting these somewhere...

<s​iren:kernal.eu> He is the one spamming this room...

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> kewbit.org: you here with us?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> I'm not sure kewbit IS markus

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> I have summoned the beast!

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> I think markus riding kewbits name though

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Siren: monturokon meeting on Sat, same channel, same hour, aye?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> nah. No meeting

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> For everyone else, yes 😆

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/bGFSXnlxUxiNjzseNZJQSPwj

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> vote manipulation

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> the spammer is kewbit isnt it

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> ?

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Damn

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> if you use updoot bots you probably use spam bots

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> No?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> monerobull: can I delete DEFINETELY NOT EXIT SCAMMING LOL

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> I’m calling him out

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> seems like a duplicate post

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> to me

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> well ill remove the manipulated version but leave the other one

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Haha

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> You’re a fraud dude

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> It’s laughable

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> oh my bad I didn't saw that verdit

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> yeah all fine

<s​iren:kernal.eu> Yes, he is the spammer. These messages were sent minutes apart.

<s​iren:kernal.eu> libera.monerologs.net/monero-community/20241205#c469640

<s​iren:kernal.eu> reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/1h64pz8/comment/m0ixb0i

<s​iren:kernal.eu> He is the Matrix spammer as well

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> I’m supprised by that

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> LOL

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Whatever next

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> ...and the beast reappears... and the 3k messages session has begun!

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> guys do i have the green light

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> this is enough for me to nuke

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> One minute I’m an exit scammer the next minute I’m a spammer

<s​iren:kernal.eu> You choose to be these things unfortunately

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i dont want to ban but come on man

<g​ooglemozilla:matrix.org> Kewbit, the spammer and scammer. Has a ring to it.

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Sure 🤗

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> kewbit.org: you should ask for further proof or something instead of name calling back...

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> I am giving advice to Godzilla! Jail time!

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<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> lol, there you have it.

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Oh no, wtf

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Or... is it?

<m​onerobull:monero.social> kek

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<k​ewbit:matrix.org> You think I have time for this shit as well

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> You ever sit and wonder how much fun all the CIA agents have by causing all this ruckus, daily? Divide and conquer, they said! Where's our resident conspiracy theorist in here?

<a​nchoc:matrix.org> i propose mandating two messages of tasty recipe discussion for every message about community drama

<a​nchoc:matrix.org> we can at least learn to cook while wading through this nonsense

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> I'll cook your butt bb.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> too bad monero keeps improving anyways

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Stuffed anchoc butt.

<g​ooglemozilla:matrix.org> CIA doesn't have enough resources to do this...

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Breaking! CIA is broke!

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> they had enough to capture bitcoin

<s​iren:kernal.eu> HE DELETED THE COMMENT reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/1h64pz8/comment/m0ixb0i

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Let's run a Kuno for CIA destabilization campaigns!

<s​iren:kernal.eu> After getting caught

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Someone should document these somewhere I said...

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Lest we not forget the he vindicated himself

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> People will wonder where that post went

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> no that was me lol

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> bcs it was upvote botted

<s​iren:kernal.eu> Ah okay

November->December thanks for noticing rottenwheel. I see everything is in order here

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> plowsof business as usual, mate. Hope you are having a delightful Thursday full of beans and early gray tay!

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> 💅🫖 I'll take care of the kiddos.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> ladies and gentelman

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> ladies and gentelmen

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/YfVdOYpVAwjcPAdexVtRqzoe

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> we got him

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> LOL

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> what can i say man

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> it doesnt look good

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Whoever the entity is, that entity is quite twisted and sick...

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Mαlοri: stop using stickers as reactions or I'm gonna block you, you show-off!

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/esfNgWOKQqcAbpQwVBpgXVux

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> holy shit it was actually him?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> or is he trolling

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> kewbit please tell me that wasnt you

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Naaa, without proper linking proof I call it all a false flag op to further damage kewbit's reputation, whatever is left of it lol.

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Distraction, destabilization, divide and conquer. My orange agent is glowing big time.

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> We all have are own mental problems here

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> The timing is just awful.

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> kewbit.org: my beloved brother in Christ, we are very clear on that.

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> They are very personal to us all clearly

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Lol

<g​ooglemozilla:matrix.org> Why did the Reddit posts align so perfectly?

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> googlemozilla: yeah, that's the oddest stuff, but those Matrix DMs nay nay...

<g​ooglemozilla:matrix.org> Here ^

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> yeah they arent very concrete but the reddit comments and upvote botting is

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Why did she delete the comment deleted callout message, though?

<a​nchoc:matrix.org> an operation as tasteless as beef brisket slow cooked in water instead of a few cans of french onion soup and beef stock

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> bcs i deleted the comment

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Remember when the voting bot was going wild in /r/monero? Hundreds and hundreds of upvotes on random threads, hundreds and hundreds of downvotes...

<g​ooglemozilla:matrix.org> She?

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Siren is a female, sir.

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> On what grounds? Not appealing it, curious. I don't even remember what the comment was anymore.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i still have trauma from the markov chain bot comments

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> as mentioned above, the comment was updoot botted

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Aren't you deleting the proof that something is off, or also, deleting the proof that links him to the Matrix spammer? :D

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Very brilliant move!

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/FOsWtFgxsMyHaclfWWCcLgYW

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i can still dig it up if we need it

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> SyntheticBird: tone it down with the poor lad bro!

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Next sexy session we have in our 1:1 room I'll keep calling you silly kitty cat!

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> This is quite entertaining

<a​nchoc:matrix.org> i disagree

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> it really is but it also isnt looking good for you

<m​alori:xavi.lu> yeah it is but tbh I dont get what is happening half of the time, I just watch with my popcorns

<p​reland:monero.social> My money’s on it not being kewbit

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> So you’ve gone ahead and deleted everything 😂

<g​ooglemozilla:matrix.org> Another question. Why did the spammer suddenly slow down when kewbit went online?

<a​nchoc:matrix.org> tell me do you use a mix of 24 or 25 spices for the perfect dry rub

<g​ooglemozilla:matrix.org> Where did they go?

<a​nchoc:matrix.org> plz sir 24 or 25

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> oh lord

<g​ooglemozilla:matrix.org> I get the reference.

<g​ooglemozilla:matrix.org> Amazing.

<a​remor:matrix.org> r/privacy had to ban all mention of the OS lol

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Ahhh, isn't Micay a fountain of love that keeps on giving and giving!?

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Make Micay the Monero CEO and kewbit.org the Monero CTO: we'll moon in autism!

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Yeah, some awful coincidences...

<p​reland:monero.social> Oh ffs

<p​reland:monero.social> For future reference, if you want to direct message me, *make sure to ping or mention me in one of these channels first. If you don’t I’m going to just reject the dm invitation on principle because I’m not going to waste any more time trying to figure out if you are actually in any of my servers or are just a scammer*.

<a​dcxzc3q414dwdwq:synod.im> I'm not a scammer

<a​remor:matrix.org> Why are they so rare in these spaces?

<a​dcxzc3q414dwdwq:synod.im> Accept my request please

<p​reland:monero.social> Oh ffs

<p​reland:monero.social> The first time I actually put my foot down is the first time it’s actually a person 😂

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Because the so-called 'space' is full of rancid fuckboys who tend to stalk and harass women. Should be pretty self-explanatory.

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Pull a girl into a sausage party and see what happens.

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Worse yet, majority of the dudes are all basement dwelling nerds who are into this weird thing... called... crypto?

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Even worserer... if possible, hand these dorks a bunch of monies by holding such crapto tokens. Now they are sex-deprived, basemend dwelling dorks, who sit in a 1 female to a bajillion dudes ratio.

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Is that a clearer horizon for you?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> and note even regular mainstream crypto

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> the fucked up druggy coin

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> and not even regular mainstream crypto

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> schizo magnet

<a​remor:matrix.org> 🤷 something genetic I guess

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> aremor: let me tell you about one anecdote from a friend of mine. Years back...

<a​remor:matrix.org> Don’t care about government control for some reason. Maybe cause government helps them more or something

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> She met this prominent BTC influencer at a conference, casually. They "linked up", like exchanged contact information. Fast forward a couple months, in spite of them exchanging **business** contact information, not personal, a package arrived at her actual, physical home address, from this BTC influencer...

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> The package contained just freebie swag, BTC hats and stuff. The issue at hand is, he stalked her enough to find the personal, family mailing address instead of biz, and instead of giving notice or saying anything, just airdropped it as a "gift".

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> And that is what women in the 'space' have to deal with.

<p​reland:monero.social> Yeah mb on denying your dms; you just got unlucky since you were the 17th person to invite me to dms without saying anything first

<a​nchoc:matrix.org> if monero was a sausage i think it would be a pleasantly seasoned bratwurst

Revuo Monero Issue 220: November 28 - December 5, 2024. revuo-xmr.com/weekly/issue-220

<p​reland:monero.social> Don’t do this I just ate and I can’t get hungry again

<a​nchoc:matrix.org> fcmp is the sauerkraut

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> I like today's issue. Go read it. Mebbe.

<a​remor:matrix.org> lol damn

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> aremor: mind you, the influencer knew she was a mom to two kids and the husband lived there as well. LOL

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Men in the space are absolutely disgusting and all women should stay perma anon for life.

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> I identify as a fungi!

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> neat

<p​reland:monero.social> Hmm

<p​reland:monero.social> Well then

<p​reland:monero.social> It isn’t every day that someone admits to you that they want to steal 43 grand from the community…..

<p​reland:monero.social> I have screenshots of the convo btw

<p​reland:monero.social> Though I can’t prove it was actually kewbit

<a​dcxzc3q414dwdwq:synod.im> Faggot

<a​dcxzc3q414dwdwq:synod.im> I trusted you

<p​reland:monero.social> It was this guy

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Allegedly

<p​reland:monero.social> I thought you wouldn’t delete the convo. That was your mistake.

<p​reland:monero.social> As much as I need rent money, I don’t need 10 XMR *that* badly lol

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Nah, a lot of you incels downright hate women

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> There are more women around, they just don't advertise themselves as women

<p​reland:monero.social> Welp; monerobull if you want the screenshots dm me; again idk if it is actually kewbit or someone else trying to ruin their reputation, but

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Post screens in offtopic

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> I'll bring popcorn

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> at this point i think it really is him

<p​reland:monero.social> The only reason I’m mildly unsure is because the writing pattern seems somewhat off, like it is someone trying to impersonate him (though it could be him trying to act like someone else; the personality is also a lot more vicious than the normal kewbit)

<p​reland:monero.social> At this point my opinion is this: kewbit should have until [deadline] to prove that there is source code or at least a binary that exists. If he doesn’t then it should be gone

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> please kewbit, get some professional help. this is not supposed to be an insult. i dont think it is good for you to be here. take a break.

<p​reland:monero.social> Btw kewbit to disprove that the person in my dms wasn’t you, send me a working binary. The person in the dms said that there is no work done outside of some ChatGPT UI templates.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> the ccs funds will still be here 2 months from now.

<g​ooglemozilla:matrix.org> Can I see the screenshots?

<p​reland:monero.social> I’m hopping in the shower rn, but I can do it later

<g​ooglemozilla:matrix.org> Thank you.

<s​iren:kernal.eu> There are plenty of women in this space. But as anonymous as you are, so are they. In technical rooms gender related topics aren't talked about and the vast majority of people do not care about being referred to as "he". I happen to be a public person and this is how others know.

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> My pronouns are [ze/hir|she/her|they/them].

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> This is my safe space. 🌈

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> EUR/USD/XMR

<s​iren:kernal.eu> private/untraceable

<g​ooglemozilla:matrix.org> There's no point in speculating anymore. I don't want this to drag on forever. It's best we move on.

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Bruv, I've been calling for voiding the whole proposal and repurposing those funds for at least two days straight.

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Preaching to the choir.

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Whether he is the spammer or not, different issue. The proposal should be closed as-is, repurposed and reopened by someone else. By last werk.

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Whether he is the spammer or not, different issue. The proposal should be closed as-is, repurposed and reopened by someone else. By last week.

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> But the ones who can pull the trigger don't do anything. 🤷‍♂️

<g​ooglemozilla:matrix.org> Luigi is busy collecting mushrooms for Peach. He will be back soon.

<a​nchoc:matrix.org> chicken/pickle juice

<a​nchoc:matrix.org> it is what makes chick fil a so good along with the pressure fryer

<g​ooglemozilla:matrix.org> Why Ubuntu?

<a​nchoc:matrix.org> asking me? it is serviceable

<a​nchoc:matrix.org> they have eased up with with incessant begging to sign up for ubuntu pro, that was the thing that was going to convince me to switch distros

<a​nchoc:matrix.org> i do not care very much about choice of distro i just like things easy

<p​reland:monero.social> If kewbit were to release the binary to me, would that be a violation of rule 4 (or at least at this point a significant enough violation to 100% void the ccs)

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> redlib.zaggy.nl/r/Monero/comments/1…qy/definetely_not_exit_scamming_lol I am uhhh confused. Siren

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Look at him using long dashes, Oxford commas, being all polite and using pristine punctuation in his reddit thread...

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> kewbit.org: how many personalities hide in that shell, sir?

<p​reland:monero.social> (And before you ask no, I’m not going to be running any binaries that he sends me because there’s a fair chance that he is pissed at me now)

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> > Rest assured, the app is coming soon, and when it does, you’ll finally be free of the Reto client.

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> > and be able to install from fdroid 😀

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> He even promises F-Droid (main repository?) listing already!

<p​reland:monero.social> I feel like now is a good time to ask: who here actually has financial/developmental ties to Reto? We are going to find out eventually, so you might as well state your ties (or lack thereof) on your own terms.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> me bro

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> i'm corrupted

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> mommy reto give me everything

"At this point my opinion is this: kewbit should have until [deadline] to prove that there is source code or at least a binary that exists. If he doesn’t then it should be gone" preland, please

He can prove a binary exisfs after source is released

<p​reland:monero.social> That deadline could be today, tomorrow, or, as rottenwheel pointed out, “last week”

<p​reland:monero.social> I guess that’s fair

I said saturday

Meeting is saturday

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> He now decides when stuff gets merged and when not!

always have

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> He also calls people out for misbehaving and engaging in offtopic!

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> He is the owner of Monero!

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> No, you never have; you just have a maniac, I-control-everything illusion in your head.

Rotten speaking facts for once

<g​ooglemozilla:matrix.org> ofrnxmr is like Vitalik. I like it.

I hope his brain doesnt explode

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Powered by your nonstop heckling, that is.

<a​nchoc:matrix.org> the monero kingdom is split into fiefdoms and we must all incorporate our associations into our heraldry

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Why can't we be friends 🎶🎶 Why can't we be friends 🎶🎶

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> The absolute hypocrisy in you acting like a pseudomod is a brillinat joke.

I'm like 5 vitaliks, with no mask and a set of balls that work

<a​nchoc:matrix.org> who can I pay monero to design my escutcheon?

I also dont sit cross legged

waking up to such scrollback. Is this a house of mirrors? lol

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Sexy shorts strolling in MoneroTopia thinking he never revelead who he truly was!

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> LOL

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Sexy shorts strolling in MoneroTopia thinking he never revealed who he truly was!

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> So anon!

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> nioCat apparently so!

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Good mornin', miau.

meow

Niocat, there was some spam this time

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> That spam on IRC must look insane.

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> LOL. libera.monerologs.net/monero-community/20241205#c469513

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> do you mean a graphic?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> vostoemisio: does amazing graphics and animations for monero

<a​nchoc:matrix.org> an excellent recommendation but unfortunately i was only making a heraldry joke about people declaring their ties

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> monero.graphics, vosto, anhdres, diego.

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> We are flooding in great designers options sar.

<s​iren:kernal.eu> user2570 does illustrations and logos too

<v​ostoemisio:matrix.org> anchoc: Not sure what a esutcheon is, but we'd love to help you out, I'll send a dm

<v​ostoemisio:matrix.org> Ah, np xD

<a​nchoc:matrix.org> well now that the point is pressed, a monero coat of arms would be pretty sick

<a​nchoc:matrix.org> hmmm

<v​ostoemisio:matrix.org> We've done tons of those before, definitely in our area of expertise

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> You should totes give him a new Matrix shelter. HL's matrix homeserver is hanging off a thread.

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> forum.hackliberty.org/t/why-we-aban…-about-user-security-and-safety/224

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> xenu: ¿Qué tanto lees y no dices nada, culero?

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> It’s the tube that connects the back of your throat to the inner ear

<r​ucknium:monero.social> googlemozilla: The Monero repo already has a Code of Conduct: github.com/monero-project/monero/bl…NTRIBUTING.md#code-of-conduct-22c41

<r​ucknium:monero.social> googlemozilla: And there is already a nonprofit org that supports Monero R&D: donate.magicgrants.org/monero

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> It doesnt actually have a CoC. Thats mislabelled

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> rfc.zeromq.org/spec:22

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Its C4

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> > The Collective Code Construction Contract (C4) is an evolution of the github.com Fork + Pull Model, aimed at providing an optimal collaboration model for free software projects. This is revision 1 of the C4 specification.

<r​ucknium:monero.social> If it's mislabeled, make a PR. You're working on docs :D

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> It's intentionally mislabeled afaict

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> There was a debate about adding a CoC, and it was stated that a CoC was definitely not going to happen. They agreed to use C4, and labelled the C4 as our CoC

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> getmonero.org/2016/06/05/overview-a…dev-meeting-held-on-2016-06-05.html

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> > <fluffypony> and what I wanted is for yrashk to tell us a little bit about C4 and COSS, and talk a bit about how C4 differs from the dreaded CoC - because adopting a CoC is simply not going to happen, but adopting C4 is a much better option

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Would a kind soul have a link or a date at which kewbit ignited the *First milestone source code* drama ?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I need it for documentation purposes

<s​iren:kernal.eu> Diego Salazar:

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> It was ignited when he released binaries

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> link please

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> because I didn't find any reference towards these binaries without source

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> 1. Opened ccs, eventually added foss license

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> 2. After some progress, released binaries via reddit or smthn monerobull @monerobull:monero.social

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> 3. Mbll asked "wheres the sause" and kewbir threw a fit and pulled the binaries instead of releasing associated source

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> the sause play ways hella weird too

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> new binary release on repository where the last change was 2 months ago

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> don't forget this 2month ago change was about replacing every mention of `Haveno Plus` by `Haveno` and linking to non existent download linnk

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> matrix.to/#/!cSwJDzxRuWndmFUZTd:hav…mx&via=matrix.org&via=monero.social

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> thx u very much kind sir

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> > i dont get it, there are mutliple recent releases but the code hasnt changed in 2 weeks

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> > its a big difference if someone has to first notice and call you out on uploading binaries that arent built from the repo they are released in vs you saying it beforehand

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Kewbit "Cause literally gunna just pull the plug now, been excited about this project for ages, thought this would be a positive thing! "

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> idk what kewbit is doing right now but he better prepare his death testament. I'm cooking his grave

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> ofrn "The red flag here is: two paths. 1. post source or 2. take down binaries. Why choose the latter"

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> (still sauce)

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<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Thats where the drama came. A few weeks went by after that, no binaries, no source, and then he wanted to claim a different milestone

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> When obviously there exists source for the cancelled released binaries. The drama the payout was "do we move forward and ignore that there are works that were released to the public that are not permissive - the code is not public" or "do we ignore it, since this milestone is unrelated. Even though the ccs should have been cancelled"

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> The latter being "do we pretend the rule break never happened, instead of enforcing that it must be remedied via release of code? Seemed to be in good faith, so lets just call it a mistake and move on"

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<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Ffwd to 42hrs ago, and kewbit says this matrix.to/#/!WzzKmkfUkXPHFERgvm:mat…mx&via=matrix.org&via=monero.social "Ok send half the remaining ccs / then other remaining when tested and happy? What do you guys think because I’m doing a full release of everything not just the mobile apps specifically "

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…oad/xmr.mx/MsYKGsBfwxSyUpEXWtQXoZhi

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Who am I and where are my stuffed animals?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/rKlNgubiOhPQasvlORIDbzjQ

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> lmao good one

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> lmfao

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> In community workgroup. Clearly lost

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Changing milestones when already wip

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> While unrelated to ccs, the scummiest part is still licensing this at MIT and never releasing a single drop of the code crates.io/crates/haveno

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Not mit then

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Cause not opensauce

<b​oog900:monero.social> There is no code:

<b​oog900:monero.social> docs.rs/crate/haveno/0.1.0/source

<b​oog900:monero.social> docs.rs/crate/haveno/0.1.1/source

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I've soon finished kewbit's grave if some drama enjoyer would like to review it, you can dm me

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Squatter then

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I know

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> He claimed the code is on his laptop and that he'd share it with a rust dev who proved themselves to him. But its its licensed as mit, with 0 code.

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Lmao

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Ive heard of these people before

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Called Bs artists

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Wait wtf

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> says apgplv3

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> So he cant ever make it proprietary rofl

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Is making a rust version of monerod enough to be labelled a competent dev?

<3​21bob321:monero.social> On that note. Do you reckon that you can finger print if someone will be using rust version or c version ?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Probably

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> latter

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> crabs don't have fingers

<b​oog900:monero.social> Yes you will be able to

<3​21bob321:monero.social> monero.town/post/5172146 kewbit?

<h​avenouser:monero.social> only LBGTQ+ know how to program in RUST efficiently

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Didnt know sexual preference came into code

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Now you do

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> Is kewbit in the room with us now, Dan?

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> How many kewbits are there in the room with us?

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> SyntheticBird the Justice Superhero!

<r​brunner7:monero.social> On the other side of the drama, on the factual side, I am still not convinced by that "Many competing Haveno networks are what we urgently need" claim (see the argument towards the end of the linked monero.town post.) To me, that's a little like a claim that we must fork Monero as soon as possible and let a dozen Monero forks bloom. Competition you know, and avoiding monopolies.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Aloha is trash

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> You have to he competent if you want to compete

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> yeah

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> there is a reason why there is and has only been 1 bisq network for an entire decade

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) because the core codebase launched a network

<r​ottenwheel:unredacted.org> What is that reason, professor mbull?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> offtopic

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/1h7iv09/drama_the_end_of_kewbigelion

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<3​21bob321:monero.social> Gn where all famous

if boog900 could confirm that kewbit has handed over the monero-wallet crate unconditionally after being asked today librejo.monerodevs.org/SyntheticBir…ewbit-drama#5-11-2024-monero-wallet

<b​oog900:monero.social> He did

thanks, syntheticbird

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<p​lowsof:matrix.org> Diegos recommendation seems sane libera.monerologs.net/monero-community/20241204#c468145 , if the source(s) appeared tomorrow with all milestones completed, hooray, payout signed sealed + delivered. now, expiration date : ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/haveno-…atform-native-app-for-every-os.html "I do not intend for there to be an expiration date. I plan to rel<clipped message>

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> ease the app quickly as I am working on it full-time, even before producing a CCS. I see this as an ongoing project but expect to have a beta absolute latest by 31st December 2024." - because ive seen "tomorrow" a few times / using unreleased work as leverage / not trusting the CCS... , i would support it if the community agreed to impose an "absolute deadline" on ALL milestones <clipped message>

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> being completed. ofrnxmr has suggested a 'FAFO' date of this Saturdays meeting,,, or 31st December,,, or a generic '6 months'. after said date is passed, kewbits claim to those funds will be revoked and the CCS parts ways with him (avoiding any further drama / discussions), and we all ride off into the sunset. Thoughts?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Seems perfectly sane to me

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> My FAFO date was in line with his request for money and his own stated timeline

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> my bad forgot to precise. ofrnxmr saturday meeting is sane to me

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> He claimed he could deliver this week, including releasing apps right now, which means he has source to show, right? Right??

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> i guess 31st december is possible but honestly do we want to be lenient with an exposed scammer that just annoyed other major contributors (kayaba)

he gave monero-wallet to boog900/kaya today unconditionally* not sure if theres bad blood

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Also, the haveno crate, haveno.com etc. I dont think we should feed this behavior. If he doesnt want to be a "good" actor, he should fuck off with his empty ai repos

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> oh sorry I didn't know

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> No need for another 4 weeks of empty repos and posturing + victim card + ai fake shit

slander!!!!

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> If he doesn't remedy all actions by saturday, i'd vote to axe the ccs

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> He gave the crate to kaya because he's politicking

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> He cant afford to make powerful enemies

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> He squatted haveno.com because he knows woodser wont stand up for himself due to professionalism

<b​oog900:monero.social> Crates.io has new squatting rules if, he doesn't publish code/ a repo we can request the crate deleted

<b​oog900:monero.social> haveno crate^

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> thats not what i want

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Sure its a good way to solve the squatting issue, but it does nothin to deal with the kewbit issue

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> The kewbit issue is that the license file there says agplv3, the crate says mit. There is no source. He claims ge has source and that everything he does is foss

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Wonder what vik thinks about it

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Spent all this money for a squatter to takeover

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> we know what they think

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> The tldr is: i'm persobally not ok with entertaing a liar beyond saturday

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Either cut the bullshit, or fuck off

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Sometime authority is part of professionalism. We have no reason to keep bad apples in our basket and then act shocked when the rest start to rot.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I think the collection of evidence I provided made it very clear that continuing to deal with this individual will not only be unethical but also meaningless.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Which means

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> 1. post the source code that you asked for 50% up front

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> 2. post the source for the squatted crate

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> 3. a) turn over haveno.com to woodser and/or b) on your new site, reword all of it to make sure youre not misleading users into thinking that the products you're gpt builds are haveno

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Unethical is the best way to put it. Also its extremely _unprofessional_ to continue to give benefit of the doubt to such obvious bad faith actions

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> So for people who are trying to act professional, the cost is turning the professional env into a diddy party

"a diddy party". That's a good one.

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<3​21bob321:monero.social> Epstein ?

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Apple cider?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> big brain. i kneel 🧎‍♂️

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<p​reland:monero.social> I’m for this one; if he actually has anything to show for his work it’ll be revealed here. If what a sock puppet that is either him or is someone impersonating him to harm his reputation, he doesn’t actually have anything past the UI scaffolds that were already presented (nor does he have the capability to actually deliver on the CCS if given a second chance).

<p​reland:monero.social> I for one don’t want to believe that kewbit did this entire thing either as an egotistical power trip or as a coordinated effort to extort tens of thousands from the already battle-hardened CCS fund, but if he doesn’t show the source…..well, if you can’t see something, it might very well not exist.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Cryptpad is fkn terrible on mobile

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I dont know of any good altermatived

<s​gp_:monero.social> I'm trying liberaforms

<s​gp_:monero.social> if that doesn't work I'll use google and try a different option for next year

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